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Okay. Yep. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it it won't it would probably reduce the off-site rain runoff. So probably I guess it depends on oh, that's it. Yeah. That's a good question. If it's proposed on the main drainage path, I can't see why it would make a huge difference. But I guess it is a new water source that probably needs to be put in somewhere. Yeah. That's it. It's a tough one. I think I think you probably do need to rerun it. Yep. Okay. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We get they absolutely do that. In turn I guess the concept realistically is just what size the fire is say it needs to be. And then we can just put in a basin that's that size anywhere that you think you'd like it, and then we can model it instead of cons like, if, yeah, we could just be like, okay. This is if this is the volume that we need, this is where it could go. Is that what you is that what you mean? Oh, okay. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. I understand what you mean, though. But because we need what where the existing dam is, it's still there's still there's still solar panels downstream of it. So it means that that won't capture all the run off, so we can't use that. So we need to figure out how we can get further down and somehow get all the water into that one place. Okay. So that does change. That would change a fair bit. Oh, okay. So if that's the case, then why can't we use the same dam that's there? Oh, I understand. I understand. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do that. Let's do that. I think maybe and then we can plan a a way forward because, yeah, I I feel like there's a fair bit of it could be you could be I mean, how long is the piece of string? You know? Like, we I I'd like yeah. I think we probably need to cement down exactly how we're gonna do it. Yep. Oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah. Because, I I mean, now we're finally doing like, I'm doing stormwater management, obviously, erosion, like you've said. I'm I'm pretty much almost covered for every type of water scenario now for except for fire, which I'm kinda looking at because it doesn't seem that hard to do. I don't know why the fire isn't taking you so long for you. Okay. Oh god. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. What? That's the point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But that doesn't make sense. Yeah. Okay. Well, I I mean, that doesn't surprise me because well, actually, Maddie and I were talking about it. You know, the fire industry, you don't actually need any qualification to do fire assessment. Did you know that? No. So firing for fire is that that that's why I said it's probably something we might dabble into because it is actually pretty much entirely policy and GIS. Yep. Okay. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean yeah. Okay. Interesting. Well, that if that's if that's gonna be popular, then yeah. Because it yeah. Looking at it, even just the like, looking at the bushfire assessment too, so it's it's maybe going out on-site, taking a couple of photos, and then talking about the location of the trees, how close how close the trees are, and then against the CFA guidelines. That that that's all it should need. It it's not it's not war and peace. It's not a complex yeah. Maybe maybe I'm disparaging it a little bit, but realistically, it's not something that I from what I can tell and for all I've read a few of them now. They just they're very they should be pretty simple and relative like you just said, relatively standardized. Or why that guy took six months to get back to you, I I don't know. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Mhmm. I don't know how people didn't manage to do that. That surprises me. I just I I just don't know how small businesses can afford to be not, you know, doing it well. It it just yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Okay. Well, if you do need a fire in the future, let us know, and I'll I'll do it. Or I'll look into it at least anyway. I'll I'll I'll see if it's something that we can I mean, I've I've just yeah? I've read I've read a few of them. They really it's just a planning scheme, and we already look at the planning scheme pretty regularly. So it's not I I wouldn't say it's it's that different, to be honest. And there's no modeling involved. It's just distance from things, mostly. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, the fact it it it does sound like what he's done is gone. Yeah. Because like I said, it really it should be there should be I think from everyone I've read, there's a table that says guideline requirement if and then you do a tick if the if the compliance has been achieved, and then you make a comment of how it's been achieved, and that's it. That's that's essentially the main that's what it should be largely. And then there's typically, like, at the end, something about the water capacity that that's needed. But even then, the ones that I've seen haven't really given other than saying, like, 400 sorry, 45,000 liters or whatever it is, that's all they typically say. They like, they it's not like it's a yeah. I don't know. It just it seems it should be fairly simple. I mean, that's my that's what it I think it sounds like it should be pretty simple. I mean, the ones that I've read, like I said. So, yeah, I think, yeah, you definitely need a new person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Easy. Yeah. Look. Afternoons between one and three most days except for Friday and Monday. Pretty much free. If you wanna check Monday, then twelve would work. Done. Yep. Will do. 2PM, Wednesday, and, I mean, I'll look I'll I'll I'll hour hour, but it shouldn't take us that long. Easy. Awesome. Well, thank you. I I've I've just gonna I've gotta do a bit for the green gold for some of the ones that you're purchasing, so I gotta get back onto that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I did I did get a referral from did I get a referral from someone? Have you heard of alright. Hang on. I'm sorry. I'm just let let me just I wanna see if you've heard of them. They're called where are you? Volta? Nope? Okay. Cool. Volta Energy Group. I've never heard of them before, but they've they sent me this nondisclosure agreement, and it was very restrictive. So I've got back to them saying, I'm I'm still I I should still be able to work for other people, potentially. I was surprised how restrictive. Like, the way that the language is written was just like, you can't essentially do any other flood impact assessments for other businesses. Like, that that's not how this works. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Fun fun time. Awesome. Alright. Well, I've just sent you the invite, so I will speak to you. Yeah. I'll speak to you. I'll see you I'll speak to you then. You too, mate. I got yourself. Cheers. 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How are you? Good. Good. What can happen?\n\nYes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Maddie's working full time now, so it means that phone calls can go to both of us.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.\n\nOkay. Yep. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it it won't it would probably reduce the off-site rain runoff.\n\nSo probably I guess it depends on oh, that's it. Yeah. That's a good question. If it's proposed on the main drainage path, I can't see why it would make a huge difference. But I guess it is a new water source that probably needs to be put in somewhere.\n\nYeah. That's it. It's a tough one. I think I think you probably do need to rerun it. Yep.\n\nOkay. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nWe get they absolutely do that. In turn I guess the concept realistically is just what size the fire is say it needs to be. And then we can just put in a basin that's that size anywhere that you think you'd like it, and then we can model it instead of cons like, if, yeah, we could just be like, okay. This is if this is the volume that we need, this is where it could go. Is that what you is that what you mean?\n\nOh, okay. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. I understand what you mean, though.\n\nBut because we need what where the existing dam is, it's still there's still there's still solar panels downstream of it. So it means that that won't capture all the run off, so we can't use that. So we need to figure out how we can get further down and somehow get all the water into that one place. Okay. So that does change.\n\nThat would change a fair bit. Oh, okay. So if that's the case, then why can't we use the same dam that's there? Oh, I understand. I understand.\n\nYes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do that.\n\nLet's do that. I think maybe and then we can plan a a way forward because, yeah, I I feel like there's a fair bit of it could be you could be I mean, how long is the piece of string? You know? Like, we I I'd like yeah. I think we probably need to cement down exactly how we're gonna do it.\n\nYep. Oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah. Because, I I mean, now we're finally doing like, I'm doing stormwater management, obviously, erosion, like you've said. I'm I'm pretty much almost covered for every type of water scenario now for except for fire, which I'm kinda looking at because it doesn't seem that hard to do.\n\nI don't know why the fire isn't taking you so long for you. Okay. Oh god. Okay. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. What?\n\nThat's the point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But that doesn't make sense.\n\nYeah. Okay. Well, I I mean, that doesn't surprise me because well, actually, Maddie and I were talking about it. You know, the fire industry, you don't actually need any qualification to do fire assessment. Did you know that?\n\nNo. So firing for fire is that that that's why I said it's probably something we might dabble into because it is actually pretty much entirely policy and GIS. Yep. Okay. Okay.\n\nYep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. I mean yeah. Okay. Interesting. Well, that if that's if that's gonna be popular, then yeah.\n\nBecause it yeah. Looking at it, even just the like, looking at the bushfire assessment too, so it's it's maybe going out on-site, taking a couple of photos, and then talking about the location of the trees, how close how close the trees are, and then against the CFA guidelines. That that that's all it should need. It it's not it's not war and peace. It's not a complex yeah.\n\nMaybe maybe I'm disparaging it a little bit, but realistically, it's not something that I from what I can tell and for all I've read a few of them now. They just they're very they should be pretty simple and relative like you just said, relatively standardized. Or why that guy took six months to get back to you, I I don't know. That's okay. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah.\n\nOkay. Mhmm. I don't know how people didn't manage to do that. That surprises me. I just I I just don't know how small businesses can afford to be not, you know, doing it well.\n\nIt it just yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Okay.\n\nWell, if you do need a fire in the future, let us know, and I'll I'll do it. Or I'll look into it at least anyway. I'll I'll I'll see if it's something that we can I mean, I've I've just yeah? I've read I've read a few of them. They really it's just a planning scheme, and we already look at the planning scheme pretty regularly.\n\nSo it's not I I wouldn't say it's it's that different, to be honest. And there's no modeling involved. It's just distance from things, mostly. Yep. Yep.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nI I mean, the fact it it it does sound like what he's done is gone. Yeah. Because like I said, it really it should be there should be I think from everyone I've read, there's a table that says guideline requirement if and then you do a tick if the if the compliance has been achieved, and then you make a comment of how it's been achieved, and that's it. That's that's essentially the main that's what it should be largely. And then there's typically, like, at the end, something about the water capacity that that's needed.\n\nBut even then, the ones that I've seen haven't really given other than saying, like, 400 sorry, 45,000 liters or whatever it is, that's all they typically say. They like, they it's not like it's a yeah. I don't know. It just it seems it should be fairly simple. I mean, that's my that's what it I think it sounds like it should be pretty simple.\n\nI mean, the ones that I've read, like I said. So, yeah, I think, yeah, you definitely need a new person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nEasy. Yeah. Look. 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How how are you guys? So you got a a fancy what do you call it? The the switchboard. The colleague? Yeah. Wow. Awesome. Nice. Awesome. Yeah. So I was just touching base. Remember the the Sandy Hollow Solar Farm? So I think the fire study for that is, like, dragged on and on and on. But it's kind of seeming to me, like, we will end up having to have this fire firefighting water retention basin request. And just just the way the design's going, I think they want to finish the last 20% of the design with a different with the BOP contractor as opposed to the current engineer that we're working with. So long story short, is rather than so it would kinda make sense to go to that BOP contractor and say, alright. Can you please design in as part of your stormwater a retention basin? Basin? But then I don't think we're gonna be engaging them for, like, a few weeks yet. So so what I was ask gonna ask you is do you think we could because then the the second thing is then I realized that's gonna affect the the stormwater flow by having this this feature. So so this the surface water assessment, your report will need to be revised. Would would you agree with that? Okay. So what I was gonna suggest is to help us to help the project, you know, stick on schedule. Do you do you think do you think you could provide, like, just a draft retention based and design. So what I mean by that is it's not, like, detailed on how we actually construct it, but it's it's enough detail to be like, well, this is where gonna sit, and this is how wide and deep it's gonna be. You know? Basically, that. And then and then from there, we maybe, I don't know, if you wanna do a first pass check or or rerun the model. So then we so then we just so then you, like, double check. Okay. Has that, like, altered is that sending now more water flow into one of those particular culverts into the rail corridor, or or is it just, like, a negligible effect and not really changing anything? Yeah. And it but it yes. But it also needs to be in the right location, so it's actually capturing the the contaminated water. Like and then it's gotta be sorry. Sorry. We'll have to just and there's not much room. Like, if if we have more room, we could just put it, like, directly right next to the inverter hardstand. But there's not much room there, so I think it's gonna have to be offset a little bit. So I'm guessing we'll have to have, like, a swale drain that like, it's probably more something we could look at together, you know, and Kind of. It kind of it doesn't need. So I don't think we need to consider the contaminated water from the solar panels. I think it's just contaminating I think it's just contamination from the batteries. Is because that dam's full. Like, I think we need to keep our dam empty. So then that way, when there's a an emergency so so it's like yeah. It's like it'll have a skate. So you yeah. We'll have a skate at one end of it so it can just drain under normal circumstances. Yeah. And then but it'll be it'll be easier if maybe we can just have a look on Teams together next week if you have time. Yeah. Okay. Cool. And then and then, also, I was talking to one of a a developer, Cameron Monroe, and I I just asked him, like, has he got any projects he's looking for, like, hydrology consultation on? And he was like he said he doesn't need it for Cuda Manta or just his immediate projects. And he was like he was like, yeah. No. Absolutely. Like, send him send the details through. That'll be great. Like, for the sorry. Yeah. It's more I think the consultant is not very good, to be honest. And then it's a whole combination of things. It's like well, the consultant gave us the two week ETA, and this was back in November. And then it ended up taking him six months to do the report. And then when he sent me the the final report for me to review, it so it was mentioning all this stuff about Fire and Rescue Victoria. And I was and I was like I was like, can you please remove all of these references to Victoria and CFA and, like, stuff? And then he went, yeah. Okay. And then he just deleted the entire section and then sent it back to me. I'm like, oh, but you've deleted all the recommendations. Like, don't don't we need those recommendations in there? And he's like, well, it's up to you. Do you want those recommendations in there? I'm like, I'm I'm like, I'm paying you because you're the expert fire engineer. You're you're meant to tell me what the recommendations are. And he's like, well, no. What what what's there is fine. And by then, I was like I was like, okay. I think the safest thing to do is just get this straight into New South Wales Fire Rescue so we actually get the review back. Because it's like, I'm just getting nowhere with this guy. And then it came back and it's like about 20 different clauses that he hasn't addressed. And but, bizarrely, they want us to so we didn't model the inverter skid catching batteries. And and then they're like, you have to model the inverter and the transformer. And then I'm like, but it's a dry type transformer. It doesn't have any oil in it. It's just like mess it's just metal with some resin, and the resin is self extinguishing. Like, it's it's f one fire class. And they're like, you still have to do it. And I'm like so I've asked the transformer, like, company for the fuel load, and they're like, no one's ever asked us that So it's just an epic disaster. Like Oh, wow. Okay. No. I didn't know that. Well, yeah, that's interesting. And then and there's there's definitely not always like, usually, in New South Wales, we've only ever been asked to install, like, a 20 kilolitre fire tank. And then for Sandy Hollow, because they pushed us into the fire study, it seems like they're becoming more standardized and and more strict. And so now we we need a one one fifty kiloliter tank at Sandy Hollow, which is less than Victoria, but it's still a significant amount of water. And then so you gotta capture that water. And so I think everyone's gonna start running into this. And it's a it's a set leaders per second, so you need to be able to provide I think it was four leaders per what I see. I think it's four liters per second for four hours in for Sandy Hollow. So then so what that means is because you know the the volume of flow, you can model how much water is spilling off that hardstand. And and so, you know, you can actually do, like, a reasonably accurate design to capture that water. So he's a he's got a PhD in something, and he's I think he's a bit on the past, usually, a lot of time gets spent, you know, in RFIs. So if you can provide us a list of all the inputs you require from the beginning, this is really I think it'll really help you and it'll help us. And and he was like, yeah. Yeah. That sounds good. But then what he did was just kept asking for things and then then and then a week and going, yeah. I'll have it ready next week. And then the next week, he's like, oh, can you also provide this? And then then two weeks later, can you also provide this? And, like, it was just and then he started doing asking for the same things that were already provided, and that's where it really clicked to me. Like, I don't think this guy's quite quite with it. Like and then he sent me a draft report that was, like, a 100 pages long and half of it was just nonsense or, like, not applicable. And I was like, oh my god. What do you want me to say about this? Like, just show me the real report, please. Please. Yeah. Yeah. It's been bizarre. So luckily, someone just provided me recommended me to a different fire engineer from New South Wales. Only with okay. Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fuck. Really? So that's the thing. I think this is this is what's happened. It's like, he's going providing all these sophisticated models, but all it's done is ignored the actual, like like you said, kind of regulatory things that need to be addressed that should just be addressed in a simple way. Like and then it's just like digging this hole deeper and deeper and deeper. Like, like, going down rabbit holes and Okay. Alright. Good chat. Can I if I emailed you tomorrow, can we see if we've got we can match up the time for thirty minutes? That okay. Awesome. Okay. What about Wednesday, 2PM? Okay. Sweet. I'm in the car. Do you mind sending me an invite? Okay. Yeah. Cool. Sounds good. Oh, yeah. We love green and gold Yeah. Not sure. But not sure. No. Right? It's not like okay. Like like, we're gonna we're gonna end your career. 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How how are you guys? So you got a a fancy what do you call it? The the switchboard. The colleague?\n\nYeah. Wow. Awesome. Nice. Awesome.\n\nYeah. So I was just touching base. Remember the the Sandy Hollow Solar Farm? So I think the fire study for that is, like, dragged on and on and on. But it's kind of seeming to me, like, we will end up having to have this fire firefighting water retention basin request.\n\nAnd just just the way the design's going, I think they want to finish the last 20% of the design with a different with the BOP contractor as opposed to the current engineer that we're working with. So long story short, is rather than so it would kinda make sense to go to that BOP contractor and say, alright. Can you please design in as part of your stormwater a retention basin? Basin? But then I don't think we're gonna be engaging them for, like, a few weeks yet.\n\nSo so what I was ask gonna ask you is do you think we could because then the the second thing is then I realized that's gonna affect the the stormwater flow by having this this feature. So so this the surface water assessment, your report will need to be revised. Would would you agree with that? Okay. So what I was gonna suggest is to help us to help the project, you know, stick on schedule.\n\nDo you do you think do you think you could provide, like, just a draft retention based and design. So what I mean by that is it's not, like, detailed on how we actually construct it, but it's it's enough detail to be like, well, this is where gonna sit, and this is how wide and deep it's gonna be. You know? Basically, that. And then and then from there, we maybe, I don't know, if you wanna do a first pass check or or rerun the model.\n\nSo then we so then we just so then you, like, double check. Okay. 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It's like well, the consultant gave us the two week ETA, and this was back in November. And then it ended up taking him six months to do the report. And then when he sent me the the final report for me to review, it so it was mentioning all this stuff about Fire and Rescue Victoria.\n\nAnd I was and I was like I was like, can you please remove all of these references to Victoria and CFA and, like, stuff? And then he went, yeah. Okay. And then he just deleted the entire section and then sent it back to me. I'm like, oh, but you've deleted all the recommendations.\n\nLike, don't don't we need those recommendations in there? And he's like, well, it's up to you. Do you want those recommendations in there? I'm like, I'm I'm like, I'm paying you because you're the expert fire engineer. You're you're meant to tell me what the recommendations are.\n\nAnd he's like, well, no. What what what's there is fine. And by then, I was like I was like, okay. I think the safest thing to do is just get this straight into New South Wales Fire Rescue so we actually get the review back. Because it's like, I'm just getting nowhere with this guy.\n\nAnd then it came back and it's like about 20 different clauses that he hasn't addressed. And but, bizarrely, they want us to so we didn't model the inverter skid catching batteries. And and then they're like, you have to model the inverter and the transformer. And then I'm like, but it's a dry type transformer. It doesn't have any oil in it.\n\nIt's just like mess it's just metal with some resin, and the resin is self extinguishing. Like, it's it's f one fire class. And they're like, you still have to do it. And I'm like so I've asked the transformer, like, company for the fuel load, and they're like, no one's ever asked us that So it's just an epic disaster. Like Oh, wow.\n\nOkay. No. I didn't know that. Well, yeah, that's interesting. 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So he's a he's got a PhD in something, and he's I think he's a bit on the past, usually, a lot of time gets spent, you know, in RFIs. So if you can provide us a list of all the inputs you require from the beginning, this is really I think it'll really help you and it'll help us.\n\nAnd and he was like, yeah. Yeah. That sounds good. But then what he did was just kept asking for things and then then and then a week and going, yeah. I'll have it ready next week.\n\nAnd then the next week, he's like, oh, can you also provide this? And then then two weeks later, can you also provide this? And, like, it was just and then he started doing asking for the same things that were already provided, and that's where it really clicked to me. Like, I don't think this guy's quite quite with it. Like and then he sent me a draft report that was, like, a 100 pages long and half of it was just nonsense or, like, not applicable.\n\nAnd I was like, oh my god. What do you want me to say about this? Like, just show me the real report, please. Please. Yeah.\n\nYeah. It's been bizarre. So luckily, someone just provided me recommended me to a different fire engineer from New South Wales. Only with okay. Sounds good.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.\n\nFuck. Really? So that's the thing. I think this is this is what's happened. It's like, he's going providing all these sophisticated models, but all it's done is ignored the actual, like like you said, kind of regulatory things that need to be addressed that should just be addressed in a simple way.\n\nLike and then it's just like digging this hole deeper and deeper and deeper. Like, like, going down rabbit holes and Okay. Alright. Good chat. Can I if I emailed you tomorrow, can we see if we've got we can match up the time for thirty minutes?\n\nThat okay. Awesome. Okay. What about Wednesday, 2PM? Okay.\n\nSweet. I'm in the car. Do you mind sending me an invite? Okay. Yeah.\n\nCool. Sounds good. Oh, yeah. We love green and gold Yeah. 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How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Good day, Alex. How how are you guys?\n\nChannel 0: Good. Good. What can happen?\n\nChannel 1: So you got a a fancy what do you call it? The the switchboard.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: The colleague?\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Maddie's working full time now, so\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it means that phone calls can go to both of us.\n\nChannel 1: Wow. Awesome. Nice.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome. Yeah. So I was just touching base. Remember the the Sandy Hollow Solar Farm?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So I think the fire study for that is, like, dragged on and on and on. But it's kind of seeming to me, like, we will end up having to have this fire firefighting water retention\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: basin request. And just just the way the design's going, I think they want to finish the last 20% of the design with a different with the BOP contractor as opposed to the current engineer that we're working with.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: So long story short, is rather than so it would kinda make sense to go to that BOP contractor and say, alright. Can you please design in as part of your stormwater a retention basin? Basin? But then I don't think we're gonna be engaging them for, like, a few weeks\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: yet. So so what I was ask gonna ask you is do you think\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: we could because then the the second thing is then I realized that's gonna affect the the stormwater flow by having this this feature.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So so this the surface water assessment, your report will need to be revised. Would would you agree with that?\n\nChannel 0: Okay. I mean, it it won't it would probably reduce the off-site rain runoff. So probably I guess it depends on oh, that's it. Yeah. That's a good question.\n\nIf it's proposed on the main drainage path, I can't see why it would make a huge difference. But I guess it is a new water source that probably needs to be put in somewhere. Yeah. That's it. It's a tough one.\n\nI think I think you probably do need to rerun\n\nChannel 1: Okay. So what I was gonna suggest is to help us to help the project, you know, stick on schedule. Do\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: do you think do you think you could provide, like, just a draft retention based and design. So what I mean by that is it's not, like, detailed on how we actually construct it, but it's it's enough detail to be like, well, this is where gonna sit, and this is how wide and deep it's gonna be. You know?\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Basically, that. And then and then from there, we maybe, I don't know, if you wanna do a first pass check or or rerun the model. So then we so then we just so then you, like, double check. Okay. Has that, like, altered is that sending now more water flow into one of those particular culverts into the rail\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: corridor, or or is it just, like, a negligible effect and not really changing anything?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. We get they absolutely do that. In turn I guess the concept realistically is just what size the fire is say it needs to be. And then we can just put in a basin that's that size anywhere that you think you'd like it, and then we can model it instead of cons like, if, yeah, we could just be like, okay.\n\nThis is if this is the volume that we need, this is where it could go.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Is\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: what\n\nChannel 1: but it\n\nChannel 0: you is that what you mean?\n\nChannel 1: yes. But it also needs to be in the right location, so it's actually capturing the the contaminated water. Like and then it's gotta be\n\nChannel 0: Oh, okay. Sorry. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: sorry. Sorry. We'll have to just and there's not much room. Like, if if we have more room, we could just put it, like, directly right next to the inverter hardstand.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But there's not much room there, so I think it's gonna have to be offset a little bit. So I'm guessing we'll have to have, like, a swale drain that like, it's probably more something we could look at together,\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: understand\n\nChannel 1: know,\n\nChannel 0: what you mean, though. But because we need\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: what where the existing dam is, it's still there's still there's still solar panels downstream of it. So it means that that won't capture all the run off, so we can't use that. So we need to figure out how we can get further down and somehow get all the water into that one place. Okay. So that does change.\n\nThat would change a fair bit.\n\nChannel 1: Kind of. It kind of it doesn't need. So I don't think we need to consider the contaminated water from the solar panels. I think it's just\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: contaminating\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: I think it's just contamination from the batteries.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: Is\n\nChannel 0: if that's the case, then why can't we use the same dam that's there?\n\nChannel 1: because that dam's full. Like, I think we need to keep our dam empty. So then that way, when there's a an emergency\n\nChannel 0: Oh, I understand.\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: understand.\n\nChannel 1: it's like yeah. It's like it'll have a skate. So\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: you yeah. We'll have a skate at one end of it so it can just drain under normal circumstances. Yeah. And then\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: but it'll be it'll be easier if maybe we can just have a look on Teams together next week if you have\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: time.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Let's do that. Let's do that. I think maybe and then we can plan a a way forward because, yeah, I I feel like there's a fair bit of it could be you could be I mean, how long is the piece of string? You know?\n\nLike, we I I'd like yeah. I think we probably need to cement down exactly how we're gonna do it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay. Cool.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: And then and then, also, I was talking to one of a a developer, Cameron Monroe, and I I just asked him, like, has he got any projects he's looking for, like, hydrology consultation on? And he was like he said he doesn't need it for Cuda Manta or just his immediate projects. And he was like he was like, yeah. No. Absolutely.\n\nLike, send him send the details through. That'll be great. Like,\n\nChannel 0: Oh, that'd\n\nChannel 1: for\n\nChannel 0: be awesome.\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: sorry.\n\nChannel 0: Because, I I mean, now we're finally doing like, I'm doing stormwater management, obviously, erosion, like you've said. I'm I'm pretty much almost covered for every type of water scenario now for except for fire, which I'm kinda looking at because it doesn't seem that hard to do.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I don't know why the fire isn't taking you so long for\n\nChannel 1: It's more I think the consultant is not very good, to be honest. And then\n\nChannel 0: you. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: it's a whole combination of things. It's like well, the consultant gave us the two week ETA, and this was back in November. And then it ended up taking him six months to do the report. And then when he sent me the the final report for me to review, it so it was mentioning all this stuff about Fire and Rescue Victoria. And I\n\nChannel 0: Oh god.\n\nChannel 1: was and\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: I was like I was like, can you please remove all of these references to Victoria and CFA and, like,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: stuff? And then\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: he went, yeah. Okay. And then he just deleted the entire section and then sent it back to me. I'm like, oh, but\n\nChannel 0: Oh\n\nChannel 1: you've deleted\n\nChannel 0: my god.\n\nChannel 1: all the recommendations. Like,\n\nChannel 0: Oh my god.\n\nChannel 1: don't don't we\n\nChannel 0: Oh\n\nChannel 1: need\n\nChannel 0: my\n\nChannel 1: those\n\nChannel 0: god.\n\nChannel 1: recommendations in there? And he's like, well, it's up to you. Do you want those recommendations in there? I'm like,\n\nChannel 0: What?\n\nChannel 1: I'm I'm like, I'm paying you because you're the expert fire\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: engineer.\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: You're\n\nChannel 0: point.\n\nChannel 1: you're meant to tell me what the recommendations are. And he's like, well, no. What what what's there is fine. And by then, I was like I was like, okay. I think the safest thing to do is just get this straight into New South Wales Fire Rescue so we actually get the review back.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Because it's like, I'm just getting nowhere with this guy. And then it came back and it's like about 20 different clauses that he hasn't addressed. And but, bizarrely, they want us to so we didn't model the inverter skid catching batteries. And\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: and then they're like, you have to model the inverter and the transformer. And then I'm like, but it's a dry type transformer. It doesn't have any oil in it. It's just like\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: mess it's just metal\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: with some resin, and the resin is self extinguishing. Like, it's it's f one fire\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: class. And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay. But\n\nChannel 1: they're like, you still have to do it. And I'm like so\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: I've\n\nChannel 0: doesn't\n\nChannel 1: asked\n\nChannel 0: make\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: sense.\n\nChannel 1: transformer, like, company for the fuel load, and they're like, no one's ever asked us that So it's just an epic disaster. Like\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay. Well, I I mean, that doesn't surprise me because well, actually, Maddie and I were talking about it. You know, the fire industry, you don't actually need any qualification to do fire assessment.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, wow. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Did you know that?\n\nChannel 1: No. I didn't know that.\n\nChannel 0: No. So firing for fire is that that that's why I said it's probably something we might dabble into because it is actually pretty much entirely policy and GIS.\n\nChannel 1: Well, yeah, that's interesting. And then and there's there's definitely not always like, usually, in New South Wales, we've only ever been asked to install, like, a 20 kilolitre fire tank. And then for Sandy Hollow, because they pushed us into the fire study, it seems like they're becoming more standardized and and more strict. And so now we\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: we need a one one fifty kiloliter tank at Sandy Hollow, which\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: is less than Victoria, but it's still a significant amount of water. And then so you gotta capture that water. And so I think everyone's gonna start running into this. And it's a it's a set leaders per second, so you need to be able to provide I think it was four leaders per what I see. I think it's four liters per second for four hours in\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: for Sandy Hollow. So then so what that means is because you know the the volume of flow, you can model\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: how much water is spilling off that hardstand.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: And and so, you know, you can actually do, like, a reasonably accurate design to capture that water.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean yeah.\n\nOkay. Interesting. Well, that if that's if that's gonna be popular, then yeah. Because it yeah. Looking at it, even just the like, looking at the bushfire assessment too, so it's it's maybe going out on-site, taking a couple of photos, and then talking about the location of the trees, how close how close the trees are, and then against the CFA guidelines.\n\nThat that that's all it should need. It it's not it's not war and peace. It's not a complex yeah. Maybe maybe I'm disparaging it a little bit, but realistically, it's not something that I from what I can tell and for all I've read a few of them now. They just they're very they should be pretty simple and relative like you just said, relatively standardized.\n\nOr why that guy took six months to get back to you, I I don't know. That's\n\nChannel 1: So he's a he's got a PhD in something,\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: and he's I think he's a bit on the\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: past, usually, a lot of time gets spent, you know, in RFIs. So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: if you can provide us a list of all the inputs you require from the beginning, this is really I think it'll really help you and it'll help us. And and he was like, yeah. Yeah. That sounds good. But then what he did was just kept asking for things and then then and then a week and going, yeah.\n\nI'll have it ready next week. And then the next week, he's like, oh, can you also provide this? And then then two weeks later, can you also provide this? And, like, it was just and then he started doing asking for the same things that were already provided, and that's where it really clicked to me. Like, I don't think this guy's quite quite with it.\n\nLike\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: and then\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: he sent me a draft report that was, like, a 100 pages long and half of it was just nonsense or, like, not applicable. And I was like, oh my god. What do you want me to say about this? Like, just show me the real report, please. Please.\n\nChannel 0: I don't know how people didn't manage to do that. That surprises me. I just I I just don't know how small businesses can afford to be not, you know, doing it well. It it just yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. It's\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: been bizarre. So luckily, someone just provided me recommended me to a different fire engineer from New South Wales.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Well, if\n\nChannel 1: Only\n\nChannel 0: you do\n\nChannel 1: with\n\nChannel 0: need a fire in the future, let us know, and I'll I'll do it.\n\nChannel 1: okay. Sounds\n\nChannel 0: Or\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: I'll look into it at least anyway. I'll I'll I'll see if it's something that we can I mean, I've I've just yeah? I've read I've read a few of them. They really it's just a planning scheme, and we already look at the planning scheme pretty regularly. So it's not I I wouldn't say it's it's that different, to be honest.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And there's no modeling involved. It's just distance from things, mostly.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fuck.\n\nReally? So that's the thing. I think this is this is what's happened. It's like, he's going providing all these sophisticated models, but\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: all it's done is ignored the actual, like like you said, kind of regulatory things that need to be addressed that should just be addressed\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: in a simple way. Like and then it's just like digging this hole deeper and deeper and deeper. Like, like, going down rabbit holes and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nI I mean, the fact it it it does sound like what he's done is gone. Yeah. Because like I said, it really it should be there should be I think from everyone I've read, there's a table that says guideline requirement if and then you do a tick if the if the compliance has been achieved, and then you make a comment of how it's been achieved, and that's it. That's that's essentially the main that's what it should be largely. And then there's typically, like, at the end, something about the water capacity that that's needed.\n\nBut even then, the ones that I've seen haven't really given other than saying, like, 400 sorry, 45,000 liters or whatever it is, that's all they typically say. They like, they it's not like it's a yeah. I don't know. It just it seems it should be fairly simple. I mean, that's my that's what it I think it sounds like it should be pretty simple.\n\nI mean, the ones that I've read, like I said. So, yeah, I think, yeah, you definitely need a new person.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Alright. Good\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: chat. Can I if I emailed you tomorrow, can we see if we've got we can match up the time for thirty\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: minutes?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Easy.\n\nChannel 1: That okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Look. Afternoons between one and three most days except for Friday and Monday.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome.\n\nChannel 0: Pretty much free. 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I mean, it it won't it would probably reduce the off-site rain runoff. So probably I guess it depends on oh, that's it. Yeah. That's a good question. If it's proposed on the main drainage path, I can't see why it would make a huge difference. But I guess it is a new water source that probably needs to be put in somewhere. Yeah. That's it.","start_word":60,"end_word":333,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.054309453815221786},{"text":"It's a tough one. I think I think you probably do need to rerun Okay.","start_word":334,"end_word":348,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3730864942073822},{"text":"So what I was gonna suggest is to help us to help the project, you know, stick on schedule. Do it. you Yep. do you think do you think you could provide, like, just a draft retention based and design. So what I mean by that is it's not, like, detailed on how we actually construct it, but it's it's enough detail to be like, well, this is where gonna sit, and this is how wide and deep it's gonna be. You know? Okay. Okay. Basically, that. And then and then from there, we maybe, I don't know, if you wanna do a first pass check or or rerun the model. So then we so then we just so then you, like, double check. Okay. Has that, like, altered is that sending now more water flow into one of those particular culverts into the rail Yes. corridor, or or is it just, like, a negligible effect and not really changing anything? Yeah. Yeah.","start_word":349,"end_word":511,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10382605344057085},{"text":"We get they absolutely do that.","start_word":512,"end_word":517,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.398581326007843},{"text":"In turn I guess the concept realistically is just what size the fire is say it needs to be. And then we can just put in a basin that's that size anywhere that you think you'd like it, and then we can model it instead of cons like, if, yeah, we could just be like, okay. This is if this is the volume that we need, this is where it could go. Yeah. Is And that it what but it you is that what you mean? yes. But it also needs to be in the right location, so it's actually capturing the the contaminated water. Like and then it's gotta be Oh, okay. Sorry. Yes. sorry. Sorry. We'll have to just and there's not much room. Like, if if we have more room, we could just put it, like, directly right next to the inverter hardstand. Yeah.","start_word":518,"end_word":664,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.02435082197189331},{"text":"But there's not much room there, so I think it's gonna have to be offset a little bit.","start_word":665,"end_word":682,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3851939141750336},{"text":"So I'm guessing we'll have to have, like, a swale drain that like, it's probably more something we could look at together, I you understand know, what you mean, though. But because we need and what where the existing dam is, it's still there's still there's still solar panels downstream of it. So it means that that won't capture all the run off, so we can't use that. So we need to figure out how we can get further down and somehow get all the water into that one place. Okay. So that does change. That would change a fair bit. Kind of. It kind of it doesn't need.","start_word":683,"end_word":791,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.16301049292087555},{"text":"So I don't think we need to consider the contaminated water from the solar panels.","start_word":792,"end_word":806,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4444662034511566},{"text":"I think it's just Oh, contaminating okay.","start_word":807,"end_word":813,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.3048210144042969},{"text":"I think it's just contamination from the batteries.","start_word":814,"end_word":821,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.41798892617225647},{"text":"So Is if that's the case, then why can't we use the same dam that's there?","start_word":822,"end_word":837,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.3169414699077606},{"text":"because that dam's full.","start_word":838,"end_word":841,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4694527089595794},{"text":"Like, I think we need to keep our dam empty. So then that way, when there's a an emergency Oh, I understand. so I so understand. it's like yeah. It's like it'll have a skate. So Yes. you yeah. We'll have a skate at one end of it so it can just drain under normal circumstances. Yeah. And then Yes. but it'll be it'll be easier if maybe we can just have a look on Teams together next week if you have Yeah. time. Yeah. Let's do that. Let's do that. I think maybe and then we can plan a a way forward because, yeah, I I feel like there's a fair bit of it could be you could be I mean, how long is the piece of string? You know? Like, we I I'd like yeah. I think we probably need to cement down exactly how we're gonna do it. Yeah. Okay.","start_word":842,"end_word":994,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.019993849098682404},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":995,"end_word":995,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3988764882087707},{"text":"Yep. And then and then, also, I was talking to one of a a developer, Cameron Monroe, and I I just asked him, like, has he got any projects he's looking for, like, hydrology consultation on? And he was like he said he doesn't need it for Cuda Manta or just his immediate projects. And he was like he was like, yeah. No. Absolutely. Like, send him send the details through.","start_word":996,"end_word":1066,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.004593242922286227},{"text":"That'll be great. Like, Oh, that'd for be awesome.","start_word":1067,"end_word":1075,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6021066904067993},{"text":"the Yeah. sorry. Because, I I mean, now we're finally doing like, I'm doing stormwater management, obviously, erosion, like you've said. I'm I'm pretty much almost covered for every type of water scenario now for except for fire, which I'm kinda looking at because it doesn't seem that hard to do. Yeah.","start_word":1076,"end_word":1127,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03880057856440544},{"text":"I don't know why the fire isn't taking you so long for It's more I think the consultant is not very good, to be honest.","start_word":1128,"end_word":1152,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4139060974121094},{"text":"And then you. Okay. it's a whole combination of things. It's like well, the consultant gave us the two week ETA, and this was back in November. And then it ended up taking him six months to do the report. And then when he sent me the the final report for me to review, it so it was mentioning all this stuff about Fire and Rescue Victoria. And I Oh god. was and Okay. I was like I was like, can you please remove all of these references to Victoria and CFA and, like, Yeah. stuff? And then Yeah. he went, yeah. Okay. And then he just deleted the entire section and then sent it back to me. I'm like, oh, but Oh you've deleted my god. all the recommendations. Like, Oh my god. don't don't we Oh need my those god. recommendations in there? And he's like, well, it's up to you. Do you want those recommendations in there? I'm like, What? I'm I'm like, I'm paying you because you're the expert fire That's engineer. the You're point. you're meant to tell me what the recommendations are. And he's like, well, no. What what what's there is fine. And by then, I was like I was like, okay. I think the safest thing to do is just get this straight into New South Wales Fire Rescue so we actually get the review back. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, I'm just getting nowhere with this guy. And then it came back and it's like about 20 different clauses that he hasn't addressed. And but, bizarrely, they want us to so we didn't model the inverter skid catching batteries. And Okay. and then they're like, you have to model the inverter and the transformer. And then I'm like, but it's a dry type transformer. It doesn't have any oil in it. It's just like Yeah. mess it's just metal Yeah. with some resin, and the resin is self extinguishing. Like, it's it's f one fire Yeah. class. And Yeah. Okay. But they're like, you still have to do it. And I'm like so that I've doesn't asked make the sense.","start_word":1153,"end_word":1511,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.11734398693095342},{"text":"transformer, like, company for the fuel load, and they're like, no one's ever asked us that So it's just an epic disaster. Like Yeah.","start_word":1512,"end_word":1535,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4249213635921478},{"text":"Okay. Well, I I mean, that doesn't surprise me because well, actually, Maddie and I were talking about it. You know, the fire industry, you don't actually need any qualification to do fire assessment. Oh, wow. Okay. Did you know that? No. I didn't know that. No. So firing for fire is that that that's why I said it's probably something we might dabble into because it is actually pretty much entirely policy and GIS. Well, yeah, that's interesting. And then and there's there's definitely not always like, usually, in New South Wales, we've only ever been asked to install, like, a 20 kilolitre fire tank. And then for Sandy Hollow, because they pushed us into the fire study, it seems like they're becoming more standardized and and more strict. And so now we Yep. we need a one one fifty kiloliter tank at Sandy Hollow, which Okay. is less than Victoria, but it's still a significant amount of water. And then so you gotta capture that water. And so I think everyone's gonna start running into this. And it's a it's a set leaders per second, so you need to be able to provide I think it was four leaders per what I see. I think it's four liters per second for four hours in Okay. for Sandy Hollow. So then so what that means is because you know the the volume of flow, you can model Yep. how much water is spilling off that hardstand. Yep. And and so, you know, you can actually do, like, a reasonably accurate design to capture that water. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean yeah. Okay. Interesting. Well, that if that's if that's gonna be popular, then yeah. Because it yeah. Looking at it, even just the like, looking at the bushfire assessment too, so it's it's maybe going out on-site, taking a couple of photos, and then talking about the location of the trees, how close how close the trees are, and then against the CFA guidelines. That that that's all it should need. It it's not it's not war and peace. It's not a complex yeah. Maybe maybe I'm disparaging it a little bit, but realistically, it's not something that I from what I can tell and for all I've read a few of them now.","start_word":1536,"end_word":1921,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.046359228115007665},{"text":"They just they're very they should be pretty simple and relative like you just said, relatively standardized.","start_word":1922,"end_word":1938,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.43399742245674133},{"text":"Or why that guy took six months to get back to you, I I don't know. That's So he's a he's got a PhD in something, okay. and he's I think he's a bit on the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. past, usually, a lot of time gets spent, you know, in RFIs. So Yep.","start_word":1939,"end_word":1992,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.01882012374699116},{"text":"if you can provide us a list of all the inputs you require from the beginning, this is really I think it'll really help you and it'll help us.","start_word":1993,"end_word":2021,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5069085955619812},{"text":"And and he was like, yeah. Yeah.","start_word":2022,"end_word":2028,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1978913247585297},{"text":"That sounds good.","start_word":2029,"end_word":2031,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.41795843839645386},{"text":"But then what he did was just kept asking for things and then then and then a week and going, yeah. I'll have it ready next week. And then the next week, he's like, oh, can you also provide this? And then then two weeks later, can you also provide this? And, like, it was just and then he started doing asking for the same things that were already provided, and that's where it really clicked to me.","start_word":2032,"end_word":2109,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0026978838723152876},{"text":"Like, I don't think this guy's quite quite with it.","start_word":2110,"end_word":2119,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3676950633525848},{"text":"Like Yeah. Okay. and then Mhmm.","start_word":2120,"end_word":2125,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.08891236037015915},{"text":"he sent me a draft report that was, like, a 100 pages long and half of it was just nonsense or, like, not applicable.","start_word":2126,"end_word":2149,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34342628717422485},{"text":"And I was like, oh my god. What do you want me to say about this? Like, just show me the real report, please. Please. I don't know how people didn't manage to do that. That surprises me. I just I I just don't know how small businesses can afford to be not, you know, doing it well. It it just yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's Yep. been bizarre. So luckily, someone just provided me recommended me to a different fire engineer from New South Wales. Okay. Well, if Only you do with need a fire in the future, let us know, and I'll I'll do it. okay. Sounds Or good. I'll look into it at least anyway. I'll I'll I'll see if it's something that we can I mean, I've I've just yeah? I've read I've read a few of them. They really it's just a planning scheme, and we already look at the planning scheme pretty regularly. So it's not I I wouldn't say it's it's that different, to be honest. Yeah. And there's no modeling involved. It's just distance from things, mostly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.","start_word":2150,"end_word":2338,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04361525488396486},{"text":"Yeah. Fuck. Really?","start_word":2339,"end_word":2341,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.523897111415863},{"text":"So that's the thing. I think this is this is what's happened. It's like, he's going providing all these sophisticated models, but Yep. all it's done is ignored the actual, like like you said, kind of regulatory things that need to be addressed that should just be addressed Yep. in a simple way. Like and then it's just like digging this hole deeper and deeper and deeper. Like, like, going down rabbit holes and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, the fact it it it does sound like what he's done is gone. Yeah. Because like I said, it really it should be there should be I think from everyone I've read, there's a table that says guideline requirement if and then you do a tick if the if the compliance has been achieved, and then you make a comment of how it's been achieved, and that's it. That's that's essentially the main that's what it should be largely. And then there's typically, like, at the end, something about the water capacity that that's needed. But even then, the ones that I've seen haven't really given other than saying, like, 400 sorry, 45,000 liters or whatever it is, that's all they typically say. They like, they it's not like it's a yeah. I don't know. It just it seems it should be fairly simple.","start_word":2342,"end_word":2567,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.00979609601199627},{"text":"I mean, that's my that's what it I think it sounds like it should be pretty simple.","start_word":2568,"end_word":2584,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5079551339149475},{"text":"I mean, the ones that I've read, like I said.","start_word":2585,"end_word":2594,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.204910010099411},{"text":"So, yeah, I think, yeah, you definitely need a new person.","start_word":2595,"end_word":2605,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34664177894592285},{"text":"Okay. Alright. Good Yeah. chat. Can I if I emailed you tomorrow, can we see if we've got we can match up the time for thirty Yeah. minutes? Yeah. Easy. That okay. Yeah. Look. Afternoons between one and three most days except for Friday and Monday.","start_word":2606,"end_word":2651,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0645189881324768},{"text":"Awesome. Pretty much free.","start_word":2652,"end_word":2655,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.40535926818847656},{"text":"If you wanna check Monday, then twelve would work. Okay. What about Wednesday, 2PM? Done. Okay. Sweet. I'm in the car. Do you mind sending me an invite? Yep. Will do. Okay. 2PM, Wednesday, and, I mean, I'll look I'll I'll I'll hour hour, but it shouldn't take us that long. Yeah. Cool.","start_word":2656,"end_word":2708,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07388941198587418},{"text":"Sounds good. Easy. Awesome. Well, thank you.","start_word":2709,"end_word":2715,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4199497699737549},{"text":"I I've I've just gonna I've gotta do a bit for the green gold for some of the ones that you're purchasing, so I gotta get back onto that. Oh, yeah. We love green and gold Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I did I did get a referral from did I get a referral from someone? Have you heard of alright. Hang on. I'm sorry. I'm just let let me just I wanna see if you've heard of them. They're called where are you? Volta? Nope? Not Okay. sure. But not sure. No. Right? It's Cool. not Volta like Energy Group. okay.","start_word":2716,"end_word":2817,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.005517718382179737},{"text":"I've never heard of them before, but they've they sent me this nondisclosure agreement, and it was very restrictive.","start_word":2818,"end_word":2836,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.35590875148773193},{"text":"So I've got back to them saying, I'm I'm still I I should still be able to work for other people, potentially.","start_word":2837,"end_word":2858,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.19955015182495117},{"text":"I was surprised how restrictive. Like, the way that the language is written was just like, you can't essentially do any other flood impact assessments for other businesses.","start_word":2859,"end_word":2886,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3499078154563904},{"text":"Like, that that's not how this works. Like like, we're gonna we're gonna end your career. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, there he is. Yeah.","start_word":2887,"end_word":2913,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.01904651191499498},{"text":"Fun fun time. Awesome. Alright.","start_word":2914,"end_word":2918,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6137937903404236},{"text":"Well, I've just sent you the invite, so I will speak to you. Yeah. I'll speak to you. I'll see you I'll speak to you then. Yeah.","start_word":2919,"end_word":2945,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.19879569113254547},{"text":"Awesome. Alright. Have a good weekend.","start_word":2946,"end_word":2951,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6513121128082275},{"text":"I'll speak You to you too, then. mate. I got yourself. Alright.","start_word":2952,"end_word":2963,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23531709611415863},{"text":"Cheers.","start_word":2964,"end_word":2964,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.533123254776001},{"text":"Bye.","start_word":2965,"end_word":2965,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.285827100276947}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.018282807783967157}}}}