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It's a bit rough, so I do apologize. Awesome. How's how's your week going? Oh, sure. Yeah. Right. And so have have you been is it it's so is that also setting up for for the next financial year, or is it or is that already done and dusted? Right. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Cool. Right. And and are you located in Wayne? Yeah. Nice. I haven't I haven't been up there for a long time, but I've got quite a few friends who moved down to Melbourne actually to study. I'm from Wayne. So I I do I I did go off a bit when I was when I was younger. Yeah. Oh, big time. Even just the subdivisions that's going out to the north and to the I'm just to the West as well. Like, there's I my partner has so well, they actually just passed away, unfortunately, but I had aunties and uncles who lived out there in some of those new subbies. And, yeah, even there, there's I know that there was heaps of I used I did a couple of oh, what were they? Levy assessments when I was part of WMS with Dry Side Engineering as well. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So I know Ed pretty well. I I used to work with him a fair bit, and he still he sends me a little bit of work on occasion, but he works mainly with I'm not sure if you know Cumulus, but he works mainly with them now. So they they have a close they have a close connection. So I I unfortunately, I can't break to crack that nut anymore. Anyway. Yep. Yep. So I did the flood modeling for that project. So, yeah, was I was the one under I I I also went out there on a site visit. Some I can't yeah. Five, six years ago, went out on a site visit as well just to check it out. So, yeah, I remember he yeah. Yeah. So I do know that area relatively well. But, yeah, it's yeah. I'm just look. I I started my business a couple of years ago, but I've always just done well, I've I've either worked on Secomb, a catchment management authority. So I used to work at North Central and most recently at Ganel Hopkins. But mainly since then, renewable development and residential, and I'm just I'm I'm a bit overworking for developers, to be honest. There's only so much you can handle and especially with all these new climate change guidelines. I just wanna try and get around it as much as possible, and it's kinda goes against my the way that I like to work. Yeah. And my, yeah, government background kind of makes me wanna, I don't know, I'd I'd probably stick up to the government more than what I, what others do just because, yeah, there's not experience. So yeah. Are you? Right. Yeah. Brilliant. Well, I I reckon that's where, yeah, that's where it like, things are going up in I I I noticed that if you speak to depending on who you speak to, climate change is a different beast altogether. I was I was on a panel for stormwater vics for climate change, and I was my argument was that it it's it's not just a rainfall thing. It's also land use, and it's I I I just noticed that a lot of people would be like, oh, yeah. We'll just change the roughness or whatever. But if, for example, a fire came through, which fires are gonna get more intense and ruin much more of the the landscape if a flood came straight after, that's when you're gonna have issues. And that should be part of climate change modeling, which I haven't really seen adopted just yet. Hoping I'm hoping that we start moving towards a more, like, framework based assessment for climate change instead of just being like, okay. More rainfall. What does that mean? Like, more rainfall, but also what about if there's, like, runoff coming in that's tilted or whatever it is? That's right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fair. Yeah. Fair. And do you guys do very much, like, smaller flood or stormwater or flood assessments or not not typically? I'm sick. Okay. Okay. Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. So yeah. Okay. That makes sense. And and I because I did see I did see that there was one out. I I I it looks I I wasn't actually sure. I thought it was actually for modeling of the three systems, and I thought, well, it's probably a bit too big for for our capacity, but I didn't realize it's just parts of it. That makes it a lot more doable. Okay. Yep. Yep. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Right. I did see Reedy Creek on it. I'd yeah. Definitely saw Reedy Creek on the tender brief. Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Yeah. No. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's a few out there like that that I've noticed that they're very flashy, and it's yeah. That I mean, you know, Europeans, we we we tend to have built right on waterways, so it's a big flood, any sort of water comes through, something is gonna get impacted. Yep. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Fair. Okay. Alright. Well, let's because I I I was going to put in a submission for it. So I definitely yeah. I'll definitely do that. Do do you guys with those smaller assessments that you mentioned that come up from time to time, do you guys go to a a tender panel, or is it more of a okay. Oh, great. Okay. Okay. Okay. Even the smaller ones, they're they're all gonna go through there from now on. Okay. That's kinda what I was hoping to yeah. That's what I was kinda hoping to start off with because I I figured, honestly, with the bigger tenders, I I know, you know, the water techs, the ones that have quite a large group behind them, typically win them just because of resources. And and I kind of feel like if if I get in on, you know, the couple of hours and I move to the 10 to 15 k projects and show that I'm capable of doing all of them, then then actually going for the big ones isn't such a big leaf, you know, if you know what I mean. Like, it's it's more of a, yeah, step wise. And to go if I'm doing the same with Glenelg Hopkins CMA where, they'll call me up and say, hey. We've got a flood impact assessment from a developer. Can you review it? And I'll charge them two hours or whatever it is, and then, give them give them a bit of, like, a, this is what's wrong with this. This is how I would approach the developer and say you need to demonstrate this, this, and this, and then send that out. And then that's that's basically all I've been doing for them recently. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Yeah. Yeah. I will. Yeah. Great. That would be amazing. Thank you so much. Yeah. I I like it. Like I said, the smaller ones are great. I think they're they're a great way to keep your sorry. Finger on the pulse as well and, yeah, at least start to demonstrate what you can do because, yeah, like I said, I I feel like once when you go for the bigger ones, a lot of the time you're already either priced out or there there's always a fear of not being able to deliver in time, which I I do appreciate. If you've got a small team that compared to a really large one, I can see why. The people could be a little bit apprehensive. So, yeah, the smaller ones to start off with would be amazing. Easy. Alright. Well, I'll send through a cap capability statement and a bit about what we've done in the past. And, yeah, I I'll look forward to hearing from you. Thank you so much. I I really appreciate it, and thanks so much for offering to speak to me. I really I really appreciate it. I found it difficult to speak to people at council oh, sorry. Get on to people at council. Lots of lots of the councils aren't keen on speaking to anyone. So it's it's really nice to be able to speak to someone. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. And and I like, I mean, it's why for a while there, I've been trying to speak to people via LinkedIn, but I I it's the exact same thing. Like, I I look at my mailbox, and, like, it looks like I've got, a, like, a 100 different AI messages of asking questions, and there's no real personality or personality to it. So, yeah, I'm I'm trying to figure out what the balance is to be like, hey. This is us, but also I'd love to chat instead of send this email. But, anyway, it's, yeah, it's good good to know. I gotta try and figure out how to how to sell myself without selling myself. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I mean, just to give you I I have that we do renewable work and the number of renewable energy providers who have called me. So I'm like, no. I help renewables get built. I'm not a renewable. It's yeah. It's crazy how many say, like, a name sorry. I see a word, and then it just sends the everything to this one person. So, yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to figure out yeah. Exactly. Oh, no. Thank you so much. That's really helpful. I'd really, yeah, really appreciate it. Yeah. Perfect. Amazing. Thank you so much. Yeah. You too. Yeah. Definitely. Cheers. Thank you. 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This is Alex. How are you going? Yeah. Good.\n\nThank you. Sorry sorry to give you a call, as well. I know you said give me a call when I when I can, but I know afternoon on a Friday. It's a bit rough, so I do apologize. Awesome.\n\nHow's how's your week going? Oh, sure. Yeah. Right. And so have have you been is it it's so is that also setting up for for the next financial year, or is it or is that already done and dusted?\n\nRight. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Cool.\n\nRight. And and are you located in Wayne? Yeah. Nice. I haven't I haven't been up there for a long time, but I've got quite a few friends who moved down to Melbourne actually to study.\n\nI'm from Wayne. So I I do I I did go off a bit when I was when I was younger. Yeah. Oh, big time. 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Five, six years ago, went out on a site visit as well just to check it out. So, yeah, I remember he yeah. Yeah. So I do know that area relatively well.\n\nBut, yeah, it's yeah. I'm just look. I I started my business a couple of years ago, but I've always just done well, I've I've either worked on Secomb, a catchment management authority. So I used to work at North Central and most recently at Ganel Hopkins. But mainly since then, renewable development and residential, and I'm just I'm I'm a bit overworking for developers, to be honest.\n\nThere's only so much you can handle and especially with all these new climate change guidelines. I just wanna try and get around it as much as possible, and it's kinda goes against my the way that I like to work. Yeah. And my, yeah, government background kind of makes me wanna, I don't know, I'd I'd probably stick up to the government more than what I, what others do just because, yeah, there's not experience. So yeah.\n\nAre you? Right. Yeah. Brilliant. Well, I I reckon that's where, yeah, that's where it like, things are going up in I I I noticed that if you speak to depending on who you speak to, climate change is a different beast altogether.\n\nI was I was on a panel for stormwater vics for climate change, and I was my argument was that it it's it's not just a rainfall thing. It's also land use, and it's I I I just noticed that a lot of people would be like, oh, yeah. We'll just change the roughness or whatever. But if, for example, a fire came through, which fires are gonna get more intense and ruin much more of the the landscape if a flood came straight after, that's when you're gonna have issues. And that should be part of climate change modeling, which I haven't really seen adopted just yet.\n\nHoping I'm hoping that we start moving towards a more, like, framework based assessment for climate change instead of just being like, okay. More rainfall. What does that mean? 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That I mean, you know, Europeans, we we we tend to have built right on waterways, so it's a big flood, any sort of water comes through, something is gonna get impacted. Yep.\n\nYeah. Sure. Yeah. Fair. Okay.\n\nAlright. Well, let's because I I I was going to put in a submission for it. So I definitely yeah. I'll definitely do that. Do do you guys with those smaller assessments that you mentioned that come up from time to time, do you guys go to a a tender panel, or is it more of a okay.\n\nOh, great. Okay. Okay. Okay. Even the smaller ones, they're they're all gonna go through there from now on.\n\nOkay. That's kinda what I was hoping to yeah. That's what I was kinda hoping to start off with because I I figured, honestly, with the bigger tenders, I I know, you know, the water techs, the ones that have quite a large group behind them, typically win them just because of resources. And and I kind of feel like if if I get in on, you know, the couple of hours and I move to the 10 to 15 k projects and show that I'm capable of doing all of them, then then actually going for the big ones isn't such a big leaf, you know, if you know what I mean. Like, it's it's more of a, yeah, step wise.\n\nAnd to go if I'm doing the same with Glenelg Hopkins CMA where, they'll call me up and say, hey. We've got a flood impact assessment from a developer. Can you review it? And I'll charge them two hours or whatever it is, and then, give them give them a bit of, like, a, this is what's wrong with this. This is how I would approach the developer and say you need to demonstrate this, this, and this, and then send that out.\n\nAnd then that's that's basically all I've been doing for them recently. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Yeah.\n\nYeah. I will. Yeah. Great. That would be amazing.\n\nThank you so much. Yeah. I I like it. Like I said, the smaller ones are great. I think they're they're a great way to keep your sorry.\n\nFinger on the pulse as well and, yeah, at least start to demonstrate what you can do because, yeah, like I said, I I feel like once when you go for the bigger ones, a lot of the time you're already either priced out or there there's always a fear of not being able to deliver in time, which I I do appreciate. If you've got a small team that compared to a really large one, I can see why. The people could be a little bit apprehensive. So, yeah, the smaller ones to start off with would be amazing. Easy.\n\nAlright. Well, I'll send through a cap capability statement and a bit about what we've done in the past. And, yeah, I I'll look forward to hearing from you. Thank you so much. I I really appreciate it, and thanks so much for offering to speak to me.\n\nI really I really appreciate it. I found it difficult to speak to people at council oh, sorry. Get on to people at council. 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Ben speaking. I'm not too bad. How are you? That's alright. No prob. Nope. Pretty smooth reasonably. We've the councils are all in the middle of financial sustainability challenges, so we've been working on a lot of projects in that space. That's the current the current flavor. Yeah. Yeah. That's done. That should we'll normally set the next financial year about a year before with project bids sort of winding up in the December before the financial year, which most council seem to operate around that period. So, yeah, we're sort of at the same time in initiation of those projects. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, it's a I mean, from a stormwater and flooding perspective, Wang's pretty unique with the king in the ovens joining in town and had its fair share of challenges in the last couple of years. Yeah. I'm 30 eight. Cool. Yep. With that, Ed. Yep. Fair enough. Yeah. And I remember we I remember we when we're doing the upgrade to our levies, we engaged Ed with a bit of work five or six years ago now for a while while ago, but, yeah, I haven't spoken to it in a while. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Cool. Got you. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. That was me. Yep. You cool? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Now that's climate change is something we've we've addressed in that at the moment with some some work up here. We've looked at the impact of that on our drainage networks or at least in the process of that. Looking to find out where our drainage networks are in the ground. We think we have about 80% of them documented, but there's that 20% that aren't in our system or to a point where they can be modeled. So we yeah. We're doing a bit of process of actually finding out where it is, and then down the track, we'll be modeling it and and, you know, understanding a bit more about the impact of climate change. But tell you Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. More holistic. Yeah. Nice. No. That's I think it's definitely where it's going. It's I mean, it's early days for us. We'll be surveying parts and getting things sorted for another year or two. Yeah. Such as nature, it takes a long time to work it out and get it get it confirmed. So, yeah, it's a bit of a longer term project for us. Yeah. We do we're we're solving a few local drainage flooding issues, like localized flood flooding issues at the moment. And, yeah, we've got a design team of two engineers that are working through that, and we're actually working for the department on that little project, the cabin transport. So that's pretty cool. In terms of localized flood modeling, probably every now and again, as part of anything specific, what I mentioned briefly in that message was some work that the Northeast Catchment Management Authority are looking at for two or three catchment areas around here. They got some funding, I think, through state or federal, I'm not sure, to to model a section of the king that was unmodeled and a section of the ovens that was unmodeled. And it was more or less, yeah, it was more or less filling the gaps with our current modeling to have a complete flood model for the area, then also to have a look at the impacts of climate change with that complete model. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's pretty much what it was because we've already got reasonable modeling for most of the king in from Wang up stream for, you know, maybe 60 of it. And then in the ovens, I think they were looking at the the section around Raleigh, South of or West Of Raleigh. There's a section of the ovens which hasn't been looked at yet. Sections in town, that's all modeled to the hilt. But, yeah, it was really it's in field modeling to complete the network. And I think they were gonna add, like, Reedy Creek and Hodgkin's Creek, some of the offshoots of it as well. Yeah. Yeah. And with Hodgkin's, Hodgkin's Creek is probably more or less in response to the frequent flooding that happens in Tarawingi from that that catchment. It's got some had some challenges over the years. 2022, it took out two bridges along there and flooded the town. I think twelve months apart, it flooded the middle of Tarawingy, the pub and everything. So it's a, yeah, it's a tricky little catchment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. And and that's it. That's you're right. That that is a very quick response. Localizing that entire area seems to get the rainfall in our in our region. It's always a it is a quite a a wet belt across there. It gets that rain on its way through to on the bright as it goes goes east. So it's a yeah. It's an area that that does does carpet more than most. Yeah. We normally we do have a panel of an engineering panel, a consultant panel. That's I think it's got another either run or don't quote me. I think no. In fact, I think we're actually going to not use the panel anymore, but we would go to eProcure. So, yeah, if you keen on working that space, jump on eProcure and register with us. I think you can flag any any work coming from Royal City Wangaratta. But, yeah, anything like that is going to be essential enough to go to eProcure. And if there's anything small anything above 50, I think, will will head to e yeah. EProcure. So it's just smaller stuff. Definitely more than happy to keep you in mind if you've got anything minor. And sometimes, to be honest, we need just a couple of hours of advice, if that makes sense. We might have a particular situation we've got, and what we're after is sort of just a bit of early advice. That always helps a lot with the development project. So if that's something you'd be keen on yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. More than happy to have a look at that to to yourself. We've we don't get a lot. I think most of ours go direct to Nick Murphy here and but if anything like that, that'd be great. That's that's the sort of thing that's really valuable. It's just a couple of hours of time to steer us in the right direction. That'd be brilliant. So if you've got a bit of a brochure or something with all the things you all your services, please feel free to send it through and have a bit of a look at that and see. I can share it with our technical services team who who received those internal referrals. So they're the road and drainage authority that the planning team would refer to. So, yeah, I can share that with them, and they can they can keep in in the loop. Yeah. Yeah. Easy. No. That sounds good. Yeah. Easy done. No worries. Yeah. And to be honest, we get I mean, about a third of my inbox is businesses trying to sell things. And yeah. And this this is probably the insights group. We get I get so many emails from and a lot of these days from AI asset management companies or from even from IT companies thinking that my role's IT a lot. And this I really will only respond to the ones that I think look reasonable from the language and AI delivered and the ones that I think we could benefit from having a look at. Yeah. I and that's probably why you might not get responses because we get inundated. And it's just over the last six to eight months, maybe when the the economy and the larger projects are going out, it just seems to have scaled up, ramped up the amount of those sort of things. So, yeah, we've I've had to really think about which ones I respond to with what, you know, what time and availability we have. Well, that's it. It's I guess the only thing I can say is to definitely don't use AI to do it because it's really clear the ones that are just and really, you know, we can do this, this, this, this, where, you know, you're a small group. You're easy to easy to jump in with things. Probably just the the if I can give anything, it's a we we can do x y zed. Yeah. Happy to give some more information or support when needed. With smaller stuff like the per You know, I can do a if you just needed someone in this field for a couple of hours on the phone, more than happy to do that. Probably that sort of approach might might get you get you something, but I definitely get it because, yeah, we we're getting a lot of it, and, unfortunately, a lot of it, I'm just sort of having to either respond with you know, you can reach out to at joint eProcure. That's where our tenders are. Go to that or just ignore it and delete it because by the time you respond to all of them, you haven't got on with what you gotta do. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yes. That's alright. No. No problem. No. No problem at all. No. Send send that through. I'll have a chat to the team, and it's just great to have another point of reference. And, yeah, for the smallest stuff, it's excellent. That's awesome. Not a problem. Have a good one, and, yeah, we might talk to you soon. No. Thanks. 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Ben speaking. I'm not too bad. How are you? That's alright.\n\nNo prob. Nope. Pretty smooth reasonably. We've the councils are all in the middle of financial sustainability challenges, so we've been working on a lot of projects in that space. That's the current the current flavor.\n\nYeah. Yeah. That's done. That should we'll normally set the next financial year about a year before with project bids sort of winding up in the December before the financial year, which most council seem to operate around that period. So, yeah, we're sort of at the same time in initiation of those projects.\n\nYes. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, it's a I mean, from a stormwater and flooding perspective, Wang's pretty unique with the king in the ovens joining in town and had its fair share of challenges in the last couple of years.\n\nYeah. I'm 30 eight. Cool. Yep. With that, Ed.\n\nYep. Fair enough. Yeah. And I remember we I remember we when we're doing the upgrade to our levies, we engaged Ed with a bit of work five or six years ago now for a while while ago, but, yeah, I haven't spoken to it in a while. Awesome.\n\nAwesome. Yeah. Cool. Got you. Yep.\n\nYep. Yeah. Yep. That was me. Yep.\n\nYou cool? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Now that's climate change is something we've we've addressed in that at the moment with some some work up here.\n\nWe've looked at the impact of that on our drainage networks or at least in the process of that. Looking to find out where our drainage networks are in the ground. We think we have about 80% of them documented, but there's that 20% that aren't in our system or to a point where they can be modeled. So we yeah. We're doing a bit of process of actually finding out where it is, and then down the track, we'll be modeling it and and, you know, understanding a bit more about the impact of climate change.\n\nBut tell you Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. More holistic. Yeah.\n\nNice. No. That's I think it's definitely where it's going. It's I mean, it's early days for us. We'll be surveying parts and getting things sorted for another year or two.\n\nYeah. Such as nature, it takes a long time to work it out and get it get it confirmed. So, yeah, it's a bit of a longer term project for us. Yeah. We do we're we're solving a few local drainage flooding issues, like localized flood flooding issues at the moment.\n\nAnd, yeah, we've got a design team of two engineers that are working through that, and we're actually working for the department on that little project, the cabin transport. So that's pretty cool. In terms of localized flood modeling, probably every now and again, as part of anything specific, what I mentioned briefly in that message was some work that the Northeast Catchment Management Authority are looking at for two or three catchment areas around here. They got some funding, I think, through state or federal, I'm not sure, to to model a section of the king that was unmodeled and a section of the ovens that was unmodeled. And it was more or less, yeah, it was more or less filling the gaps with our current modeling to have a complete flood model for the area, then also to have a look at the impacts of climate change with that complete model.\n\nYeah. Yeah. That's that's pretty much what it was because we've already got reasonable modeling for most of the king in from Wang up stream for, you know, maybe 60 of it. And then in the ovens, I think they were looking at the the section around Raleigh, South of or West Of Raleigh. There's a section of the ovens which hasn't been looked at yet.\n\nSections in town, that's all modeled to the hilt. But, yeah, it was really it's in field modeling to complete the network. And I think they were gonna add, like, Reedy Creek and Hodgkin's Creek, some of the offshoots of it as well. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nAnd with Hodgkin's, Hodgkin's Creek is probably more or less in response to the frequent flooding that happens in Tarawingi from that that catchment. It's got some had some challenges over the years. 2022, it took out two bridges along there and flooded the town. I think twelve months apart, it flooded the middle of Tarawingy, the pub and everything. So it's a, yeah, it's a tricky little catchment.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. And and that's it.\n\nThat's you're right. That that is a very quick response. Localizing that entire area seems to get the rainfall in our in our region. It's always a it is a quite a a wet belt across there. It gets that rain on its way through to on the bright as it goes goes east.\n\nSo it's a yeah. It's an area that that does does carpet more than most. Yeah. We normally we do have a panel of an engineering panel, a consultant panel. That's I think it's got another either run or don't quote me.\n\nI think no. In fact, I think we're actually going to not use the panel anymore, but we would go to eProcure. So, yeah, if you keen on working that space, jump on eProcure and register with us. I think you can flag any any work coming from Royal City Wangaratta. But, yeah, anything like that is going to be essential enough to go to eProcure.\n\nAnd if there's anything small anything above 50, I think, will will head to e yeah. EProcure. So it's just smaller stuff. Definitely more than happy to keep you in mind if you've got anything minor. And sometimes, to be honest, we need just a couple of hours of advice, if that makes sense.\n\nWe might have a particular situation we've got, and what we're after is sort of just a bit of early advice. That always helps a lot with the development project. So if that's something you'd be keen on yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nNo. More than happy to have a look at that to to yourself. We've we don't get a lot. I think most of ours go direct to Nick Murphy here and but if anything like that, that'd be great. That's that's the sort of thing that's really valuable.\n\nIt's just a couple of hours of time to steer us in the right direction. That'd be brilliant. So if you've got a bit of a brochure or something with all the things you all your services, please feel free to send it through and have a bit of a look at that and see. I can share it with our technical services team who who received those internal referrals. So they're the road and drainage authority that the planning team would refer to.\n\nSo, yeah, I can share that with them, and they can they can keep in in the loop. Yeah. Yeah. Easy. No.\n\nThat sounds good. Yeah. Easy done. No worries. Yeah.\n\nAnd to be honest, we get I mean, about a third of my inbox is businesses trying to sell things. And yeah. And this this is probably the insights group. 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Ben speaking.\n\nChannel 0: Hi, Ben. This is Alex. How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: I'm not too bad. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Good. Thank you. Sorry sorry to give you a call, as well. I know you said give me a call when I when I can, but I know afternoon on a Friday.\n\nIt's a bit rough, so I do apologize.\n\nChannel 1: That's alright. No prob.\n\nChannel 0: Awesome.\n\nChannel 1: Nope.\n\nChannel 0: How's how's your week going?\n\nChannel 1: Pretty smooth reasonably. We've the councils are all in the middle of financial sustainability challenges, so we've been working on a lot of projects in that space. That's the current the current flavor.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, sure.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right. And so have have you been is it it's so is that also setting up for for the next financial year, or is it or is that already done and dusted?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's done. That should we'll normally set the next financial year about a year before with project bids sort of winding up in the December before the financial year, which most council seem to operate around that period.\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: So, yeah, we're sort of at the same time in initiation of those projects.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Cool. Right.\n\nAnd and are you located in Wayne?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Nice. I haven't I haven't been up there for a long time, but I've got quite a few friends who moved down to Melbourne actually to study. I'm from Wayne. So I I do I I did go off a bit when I was when I was younger.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Cool. Well, it's a\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I mean, from a stormwater and flooding perspective, Wang's pretty unique with the king in the ovens joining in town and had its fair share of challenges in the last couple of years.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, big time. Even just the subdivisions that's going out to the north and to the I'm just to the West as well. Like, there's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I my partner has so well, they actually just passed away, unfortunately, but\n\nChannel 1: I'm\n\nChannel 0: I had aunties and uncles who lived out there\n\nChannel 1: 30\n\nChannel 0: in some of those new subbies. And, yeah, even there, there's I know that there was heaps of I used I did a couple of oh, what were they? Levy\n\nChannel 1: eight.\n\nChannel 0: assessments when I was part of WMS with Dry Side Engineering as well.\n\nChannel 1: Cool. Yep. With that,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: Ed. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. So I know Ed pretty well. I I used to work with him a fair bit, and he still he sends me a little bit of work on occasion, but he works mainly with I'm not sure if you know Cumulus, but he works mainly with them now. So they they have a close they have a close connection.\n\nSo I I unfortunately, I can't break to crack that nut anymore.\n\nChannel 1: Fair enough. Yeah. And I\n\nChannel 0: Anyway.\n\nChannel 1: remember we I remember we when we're doing the upgrade to our levies, we engaged Ed with a bit of work\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: five or six years ago now for a while while ago, but, yeah, I\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: haven't\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: spoken to\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: did\n\nChannel 1: in\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: a\n\nChannel 0: flood\n\nChannel 1: while.\n\nChannel 0: modeling for that project.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome. Awesome.\n\nChannel 0: So, yeah, was I was the one under I I I also went out there on a site visit. Some I can't yeah. Five, six years ago, went out on a site visit as well just to check it out. So, yeah, I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: remember\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: he yeah. Yeah. So I do know that area relatively well. But, yeah, it's yeah. I'm just look.\n\nI I started my business a couple of years ago, but I've always just done well, I've I've either worked on Secomb, a catchment management authority. So I used to work at North Central and most recently\n\nChannel 1: Got you.\n\nChannel 0: at Ganel Hopkins. But mainly since then, renewable development and residential, and I'm just I'm I'm a bit overworking for developers, to be honest. There's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: only so\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: much you can handle and especially with all these new climate change guidelines. I just wanna try and get around it as much as possible, and it's kinda goes against my the way that I like to work.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: That was\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: me.\n\nChannel 0: my, yeah, government background kind of makes me wanna, I don't know, I'd I'd probably stick up to the government more than what I, what others do\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: just because,\n\nChannel 1: You cool?\n\nChannel 0: yeah, there's not\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: experience. So\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome. Now that's climate change is something we've we've addressed in that at the moment with some some work up here. We've looked at the impact of that on our drainage networks or at least in\n\nChannel 0: Are\n\nChannel 1: the process\n\nChannel 0: you?\n\nChannel 1: of that. Looking to find out where our drainage networks are in the ground. We think we have about 80% of them documented, but there's that 20% that aren't in our system or to a point where they can be modeled.\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: So we yeah. We're doing a bit of process of actually finding out where it is, and then down the track, we'll be modeling it and and, you know, understanding a bit more about the impact of climate change.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Brilliant. Well, I I\n\nChannel 1: But tell\n\nChannel 0: reckon that's where, yeah, that's where it like, things are going up in I I I noticed that if you speak to depending on who you\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: speak to, climate change is a different beast altogether. I was I was on a panel for stormwater vics for climate change, and I was my argument was that it it's it's not just a rainfall thing. It's also land use, and it's\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: I I I just noticed that a lot of people would be like, oh, yeah. We'll just change the roughness or whatever. But if, for example, a fire came through, which fires are gonna get more intense and ruin much more of the the landscape if a flood came straight after, that's when you're gonna have issues. And that should be part of climate change modeling, which I haven't really seen adopted just yet. Hoping I'm hoping that we start moving towards a more, like, framework based assessment for climate change instead of just being like, okay.\n\nMore rainfall. What does that mean? Like, more rainfall, but also what about if there's, like, runoff coming in that's tilted or whatever it is?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah. More holistic.\n\nChannel 0: That's right.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Nice. No. That's I think it's definitely where it's going. It's I mean, it's early days for us.\n\nWe'll be surveying parts and getting things sorted for another year or\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: two.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Such as nature, it takes a long time to work it out and get it get it confirmed. So, yeah, it's a bit of a longer term project for us.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Fair. Yeah. Fair. And\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: do you guys do very much, like, smaller flood or stormwater or flood assessments or not not typically?\n\nChannel 1: We do we're we're solving a few local drainage flooding issues, like localized flood flooding issues at the moment. And, yeah, we've got a design team of two engineers that are working through that, and we're actually working for the department on that little project,\n\nChannel 0: I'm\n\nChannel 1: the cabin\n\nChannel 0: sick.\n\nChannel 1: transport. So that's pretty cool. In terms of localized flood modeling, probably every now and again,\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: as part of anything specific, what I mentioned briefly in that message was some work that the Northeast Catchment Management Authority are looking at for two or three catchment areas around here. They got some funding, I think, through state or federal, I'm not sure, to to model a section of the king that was unmodeled and a section of the ovens that was unmodeled.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: And it was\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: more or less, yeah, it was more or less filling the gaps with our current modeling to have a complete flood model for the area, then also to have a look at the impacts of climate change with that complete model.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right. Okay. So yeah. Okay.\n\nThat makes sense. And and I because I did see I did see that there was one out. I I I it looks I I wasn't actually sure. I thought it was actually for modeling of the three systems, and I thought, well, it's probably a bit too big for\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: for our capacity, but I didn't realize it's just parts of it. That makes it a lot more doable.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's that's pretty much what it was because we've\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: already got reasonable modeling for most of the king in from Wang up stream for, you know, maybe\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: 60 of it. And then in the ovens, I think they were looking at the the section around Raleigh, South of or West Of Raleigh.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: There's a section of the ovens which hasn't been looked at yet. Sections in town, that's all modeled to the hilt. But,\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, it was really it's in field modeling to complete the network. And I think\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: they\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: were gonna add, like, Reedy Creek and Hodgkin's Creek, some of the offshoots of it as well.\n\nChannel 0: I did see Reedy Creek on it. I'd yeah. Definitely saw Reedy Creek on the tender brief.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That makes sense. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Sure.\n\nChannel 1: And with Hodgkin's, Hodgkin's Creek is probably more or less in response to the frequent flooding that happens in Tarawingi from that that catchment.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: It's got some had some challenges over the years. 2022, it took\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: out two bridges along there and flooded the town. I think twelve months apart, it flooded the middle of Tarawingy, the pub and everything. So\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: it's a,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, it's a tricky little catchment.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. There's a few out there like that that I've noticed that they're very flashy, and it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. That I mean, you know, Europeans, we we we tend to have built right on waterways, so it's a big flood, any sort of water comes through, something is gonna get impacted.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. That's it. And and that's it. That's you're right.\n\nThat that is a very quick response. Localizing that entire area seems to get the rainfall in our in our region. It's always a it is a quite a a wet belt across there. It gets that rain on its way through to on the bright as it goes\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: goes east. So it's a yeah. It's an area that that does does carpet more than most.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Fair. Okay.\n\nAlright. Well, let's because I I I was going to put in a submission for it. So I definitely yeah. I'll definitely do that. Do do you guys with those smaller assessments that you mentioned that come up from time to time, do you guys go to a a tender panel, or is it more of a\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. We normally we do have a panel of an engineering panel, a consultant\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: panel. That's I think it's got another either run or don't quote me. I think no. In fact, I think we're actually going to not use the panel anymore,\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: but\n\nChannel 0: great.\n\nChannel 1: we would go to eProcure. So, yeah, if\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: you keen on working that space, jump on eProcure and register with us. I think you can flag any any work coming from Royal City Wangaratta.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: But, yeah, anything like that is going to be essential enough to go to eProcure.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: Even\n\nChannel 1: if\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: there's\n\nChannel 0: smaller\n\nChannel 1: anything\n\nChannel 0: ones,\n\nChannel 1: small\n\nChannel 0: they're they're all gonna go through there from now on.\n\nChannel 1: anything above 50, I think, will will\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: head to e yeah. EProcure. So it's just smaller stuff. Definitely more than happy to keep you in mind if you've got anything minor. And sometimes, to be honest, we need just a couple of hours of advice, if that makes sense.\n\nWe might have a particular situation we've got, and what we're after is sort of just a bit of early advice. That always helps a lot with the development project. So if that's\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: something\n\nChannel 0: kinda what\n\nChannel 1: you'd\n\nChannel 0: I was hoping\n\nChannel 1: be\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: keen\n\nChannel 0: yeah. That's\n\nChannel 1: on\n\nChannel 0: what I was kinda\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: hoping to start off with because I I figured, honestly, with the bigger tenders, I I know, you know, the water techs, the ones that have quite a large group behind them, typically win them just because of resources. 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I'll definitely do that.","start_word":1782,"end_word":1789,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4143148362636566},{"text":"Do do you guys with those smaller assessments that you mentioned that come up from time to time, do you guys go to a a tender panel, or is it more of a Yeah. We normally we do have a panel of an engineering panel, a consultant okay. panel. That's I think it's got another either run or don't quote me. I think no. In fact, I think we're actually going to not use the panel anymore, Oh, but great. we would go to eProcure. So, yeah, if Okay. you keen on working that space, jump on eProcure and register with us. I think you can flag any any work coming from Royal City Wangaratta. Okay. But, yeah, anything like that is going to be essential enough to go to eProcure. Okay. And Even if the there's smaller anything ones, small they're they're all gonna go through there from now on. anything above 50, I think, will will Okay. head to e yeah. EProcure. So it's just smaller stuff.","start_word":1790,"end_word":1958,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.024251272940468152},{"text":"Definitely more than happy to keep you in mind if you've got anything minor.","start_word":1959,"end_word":1972,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6570367217063904},{"text":"And sometimes, to be honest, we need just a couple of hours of advice, if that makes sense. We might have a particular situation we've got, and what we're after is sort of just a bit of early advice.","start_word":1973,"end_word":2011,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23485280573368073},{"text":"That always helps a lot with the development project.","start_word":2012,"end_word":2020,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4154709279537201},{"text":"So if that's That's something kinda what you'd I was hoping be to keen yeah. That's on what I was kinda yeah. hoping to start off with because I I figured, honestly, with the bigger tenders, I I know, you know, the water techs, the ones that have quite a large group behind them, typically win them just because of resources. And Yeah. and I kind of feel like if if I get in on, you know, the couple of hours and I move to the 10 to 15 k projects and show that I'm capable of doing all of them, then then actually going for the big ones isn't such a big leaf, you know, if you know what I mean. Like, it's it's Yeah. more of Yeah. a, yeah, step wise. Yep. And to go if I'm doing the same with Glenelg Hopkins CMA where, they'll call me up and say, hey. We've got a flood impact assessment from a developer. Can you review it? And I'll charge them two hours or whatever it is, and then, give them give them a bit of, like, a, this is what's wrong with this. This is how I would approach the developer and say you need to demonstrate this, this, and this, and then send that out. And then that's that's basically all I've been doing for them recently. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. More than happy to have a look at that to to yourself. We've we don't get a lot. I think most of ours go direct to Nick Murphy here and Yeah.","start_word":2021,"end_word":2284,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.13397867475269418},{"text":"but if anything like that, that'd be great. That's that's the sort of thing that's really valuable. It's just a couple of hours of time to steer us in the right direction. That'd be brilliant.","start_word":2285,"end_word":2319,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6042115092277527},{"text":"So if you've got a bit of a brochure or something with all the things you all Yeah. your I do. services, Yeah. please Yeah. feel I free to will. send it through Yeah.","start_word":2320,"end_word":2353,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.11125201731920242},{"text":"Great. and have a bit of a look at that and see.","start_word":2354,"end_word":2365,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3934980630874634},{"text":"I can share it with our technical services team who who received those internal referrals. So they're the road and drainage authority that the planning team would refer to. So, yeah, I can share that with them, and they can they can keep in in the loop.","start_word":2366,"end_word":2412,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24386365711688995},{"text":"That would be amazing. Thank you so much.","start_word":2413,"end_word":2420,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6830405592918396},{"text":"Yeah. Yeah.","start_word":2421,"end_word":2422,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23696839809417725},{"text":"I I like it. Like I said, the smaller ones are great. I think they're they're a great way to keep your sorry.","start_word":2423,"end_word":2445,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3962546586990357},{"text":"Finger on the pulse as well and, yeah, at least start to demonstrate what you can do because, yeah, like I said, I I feel like once when you go for the bigger ones, a lot of the time you're already either priced out or there there's always a fear of not being able to deliver in time, which I I do appreciate. If you've got a small team that compared to a really large one, I can see why. The people could be a little bit apprehensive. So, yeah, the smaller ones to start off with would be amazing. Yeah. Easy. No. That sounds good. Easy. Alright. Well, I'll send through a cap capability statement and a bit about what we've done in the past. And, yeah, I I'll look forward to hearing from you. Yeah. Easy done.","start_word":2446,"end_word":2584,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1452832967042923},{"text":"Thank you so much.","start_word":2585,"end_word":2588,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3898448050022125},{"text":"No I worries.","start_word":2589,"end_word":2591,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.14553046226501465},{"text":"I really appreciate it, and thanks so much for offering to speak to me.","start_word":2592,"end_word":2605,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.37703707814216614},{"text":"I really I really appreciate it. I found it difficult to speak to people at council oh, sorry. Get on to people at council. Lots of lots of the councils aren't keen on speaking to anyone.","start_word":2606,"end_word":2641,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03924646694213152},{"text":"So it's it's really nice Yeah. to be able to speak to someone.","start_word":2642,"end_word":2654,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5171010494232178},{"text":"And to be honest, we get I mean, about a third of my inbox is businesses trying to sell things. Oh, okay. And yeah. And this this is probably the insights group. We get I get so many emails from and a lot of these days from AI asset management companies Yep. or from even Yep. from IT companies thinking that my role's IT a lot. And this I really will only respond to the ones that I think look reasonable from the language and AI delivered Okay. Yeah. and the ones that I think we could benefit from having a look at. Yeah. I and that's probably why you might not get responses because we get inundated. And it's just over the last six to eight months, maybe when the the economy and the larger projects are going out, it just seems to have scaled up, ramped Yeah. up the amount of those sort of things. So, yeah, we've I've had to really think about which ones I respond to with what, you know, what time and availability we have. That makes sense. Yeah. And and I like, I mean, it's why for a while there, I've been trying to speak to people via LinkedIn, but I I it's the exact same thing. Like, I I look at my mailbox, and, like, it looks like I've got, a, like, a 100 different AI messages of asking questions, and there's no real personality or personality to it. So, yeah, I'm I'm trying to figure out what the balance is to be like, hey. This is us, but also I'd love to chat instead of send this email. But, anyway, it's, yeah, it's good good to know. I gotta try and figure out how to how to sell myself without selling myself. Well, that's it. It's I guess the only thing I can say is to definitely don't use AI to do it because it's really clear Yeah. the ones that are just and really, you know, we can do this, this, this, this, where, you know, you're a small group. You're easy to easy to jump in with things. Probably just the the if I can give anything, it's a we we can do x y zed. Yeah. Happy to give some more information or support when needed. With smaller stuff Yeah. like Okay. the per You know, I can do a if you just needed someone in this field for a couple of hours on the phone, more than happy to do that. Probably that sort of Yeah. approach Okay. might might get you get you something, but I definitely get it because, yeah, we we're getting a lot of it, and, unfortunately, a lot of it, I'm just sort of having to either respond with you know, you can reach out to at joint eProcure. That's where our tenders are. Go to that or just ignore it and delete it because Yeah. by the time you respond to all of them, you haven't got on with what you gotta do. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I mean, just to give you I I have that we do renewable work and the number of renewable energy providers who have called me. So I'm like, no. I help renewables get built. I'm not a renewable. It's yeah. It's crazy how many say, like, a name sorry. I see a word, and then it just sends the everything to this one person. Yeah. So, yeah, Yeah. I That's appreciate it. that. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to figure out yeah. Exactly. Oh, no.","start_word":2655,"end_word":3257,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.014242692595690635},{"text":"Thank you so much. That's really helpful.","start_word":3258,"end_word":3264,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.42387327551841736},{"text":"Yes. That's alright. I'd really, No. No yeah, problem. really appreciate it. No. No problem at all. No. Send send that through.","start_word":3265,"end_word":3286,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08305085450410843},{"text":"I'll have a chat to the team, and it's just great to have another point of reference. And, yeah, for the smallest stuff, it's excellent. That's Yeah. Perfect. Amazing. Thank you so much. awesome. Not a problem. Have a good one, and, yeah, Yeah.","start_word":3287,"end_word":3330,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6136859655380249},{"text":"we might You talk too. to you soon. Yeah.","start_word":3331,"end_word":3339,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22072117030620575},{"text":"Definitely. Cheers. Thank you.","start_word":3340,"end_word":3343,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.574061393737793},{"text":"Bye. No.","start_word":3344,"end_word":3345,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.14151951670646667},{"text":"Thanks.","start_word":3346,"end_word":3346,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34820669889450073},{"text":"Bye.","start_word":3347,"end_word":3347,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.13680197298526764}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0559240614924518}}}}