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I just because it I mean, who knows? Maybe the lower smaller events are still gonna have a bit of an issue, so we may still need to do a bit of work. But, yeah, I just feel like it it it oh, sorry. Go for it. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And and as long as we're not putting it for longer, which based on what I can tell from the 1%, we've now allowed enough going through. So we've stopped pushing back on other others, which is kind of what I was hoping would work and yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. No. Not necessarily. I think they're okay with it because I think they were I think they were worried that maybe they're gonna have to scrape the whole site. To be honest, I was a bit worried that maybe they were gonna have to take out, you know, heaps and heaps. It's still not a I mean, it's still gonna be a fair bit of work for them. I don't think they fully understand how much work it's gonna be, but I I think I'm just gonna try and push the the the fact that Glenn is super keen on re vegging. Trying to push that a little bit and be like, well, look, you're gonna have to re veg and make it sculpt it a little bit better, which might be a way to get her involved. So I guess that's how I'm I'm trying to say it. Because otherwise yeah. I don't think it's gonna yeah. Because I and I'll just say how much, you know, how much we've saved based on not having to scrape the whole site. Because it it yeah. It will be a bit of work, but there'd be nothing compared to having to redo the whole thing. So, yeah, I think they the looks they're they're they're I think they're just I think their their frustration or upsetness is probably it seems largely towards the guy who did all the work across the like, it's it's I think we I get sometimes I get feel I feel like I get, like, a radiated frustration or anger, but I I know that it's not necessarily directed towards us. It's just, like, they they've just been put in a you know? Like, it's and that's it. Exactly. That that is exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, that's exactly right. I'm I'm thanking, yeah, I'm thanking our stars that both of them honestly, even the guy who hired me was a bit difficult. So I'm kinda glad both of them are out of it. It's yeah. It's it's much better this way, especially yeah. And and especially considering they definitely did not tell me as much as what they as they should have when I did the assessment originally. So, yeah, it's that's it. Well, I usually, I call out to try and manage it, but, yeah, I I probably should have done my due diligence a bit better. Usually, I think I try to pick and choose my assessments pretty well, and this one obviously was an early one that I did not pick it early. It didn't start off well, this one, to be honest. Gavin, I end up driving to there's a 50 Farmers Road about a 100 kilometers south of the site, and that's where my GPS sent me. Yeah. Well, I wasn't clever enough to check it, and so I I I was very far away and then had to drive all the way to meet them. And, yep, that that was a good start. That was my first time going out on-site. So it was good learning as well. I I haven't done that type of thing since. So that's it. Exactly. That's right. That is right. Yeah. Oh, brilliant. Well, thanks so much for calling. That's really helpful. I I I hope that I wasn't out of line. I didn't want to put you offside or make you feel uncomfortable. So yeah. Yep. Yep. Great. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. And we need to get this done quick. Yeah. That's right. That's that's what I'm worried about. Yeah. Because especially we're coming into we're coming into a pretty hectic time. It's gonna get worse, so we really do need to get it done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. I mean, we need to get it I I mean, we're coming into the worst months of generally, worst months of flooding right now. So, yeah, I need to get something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brilliant. Great. Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. Brilliant. Thanks so much. Thanks, Kevin. I really appreciate it. Alright. Will you please. Yes. Yes. Yep. I'd love to. We we so I usually do I would do the concept for them and then get a a designer in on my team to do it. So yeah. I I absolutely yep. Yep. Absolutely. Anything to do with waterway yeah. Basically, I'm I'm keen. And, yeah, even if there's stormwater management plans, I know that you that CMA's don't typically go I I've started dabbling in them. I only usually do them in rural Victoria because I I know rural Victoria a bit more than I like than I want anything to do with Melbourne. It gets a little bit dense in Melbourne. But, yeah, any anything to do with water, typically, I I I dabble in and and can assist with. And if I can't, then typically, I would send them to. I've I've got quite a few friends who run their own businesses now. It's funny. We all seem to, like, gravitate to one another. Anyway, so, yeah, I'll be able to recommend people as well. Yep. Okay. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. It and and yeah. I guess, especially with the for those ones, what would you design? Would you design to the 1%, or is that too much? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Great. Okay. Yeah. Yep. And consistent. Yeah. Okay. So do have have they got survey of the area? Or they because they're they're gonna need to. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Because I think survey would basically solve our issue if if if we can figure out where their level levels are. So yeah. Easy. Perfect. Great. Yeah. Well, yeah, please let me let me know. I'd I'd love to. And, yeah, if if there are any look. I I'd love to do smaller flood assessments as well. And and so if there's ever any requests, I'm I'm happy to help. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we could just use high eight though. We could we could probably just use HyH as like a one because if it's confined waterway, and we just have HyH so it spills over, we'd be able to tell tell you the difference between the flood levels, and then you could probably just use the lidar. So it wouldn't be much, honestly, Kevin. Like, if if that that it might be less than less than a grand, maybe a grand. Well, because because we we could just do a couple of like, I I guess what I do for so what I do for Peter Robertson, GHCMA, I do hourly. So when when if I need an hourly assessment, I'm doing a a peer review of MRVP. I'm sorry. They they've got, like, a duplication project going on the river, and they're not very happy with the person who did it. And so I'm just doing a review, but I just do the hourly. They and then they charge the hourly to the clients. Or if they if it's just for them, I usually do it on a much cheaper hourly, so, like, $1.60 an hour. And and so with that type of project, realistically, if we if I have the lidar, and I can just do two cross sections, put in either a two culverts or a Crest in high a, that, you know, that's three or four hours of and then I could give you just an email, like, of what what the level differences are, and then you can go off being like, that's gonna result in this, this, and this. Yeah. So, yeah, if you need a just a little bit more detail, I'm happy. And and like I've like I said with Kanab Hopkins, I've got, like, a a signed up contract where we say whenever they need me, it's just I'll just charge hours $1.60, and then then I just do what they need me to do. And typically, I usually say or they usually tell me how much money they've got to spend on it, and then I try to stick within that. So yeah. Well, that's that's I that's why. Yeah. Because usually, if I'm working with well yeah. And and, I I mean, it it also depends on the same, mate. For example, like, if it's North Central, typically, it's like, oh, yeah. Just charge it if you want because they managed to ask for more money straight up front. So they're they're sorted typically, but then when it's other smaller ones like Karangama or whatever, even though Karangama is not small, but they're not particularly well financed. There's I mean, there might be more financed than others. But anyway, yeah, I'd I'd I'd basically just try to fit in with what needs what what the needs are or the possibilities, I guess. So yeah. Look. Anything yeah. Let me know. And and and I guess the other thing is I wanna work with you. So if there's some way just like that's we can't do it for that, then I like, I prefer to work around, figure out how we can because, you know, if it's cheaper, but then I get bulk of them, then, you know, I don't I don't really mind. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And then yeah. Yeah. I've I've I've just had one just rural Vic. Sorry. No. Just outside Melbourne, which is kind of a VCAT case, and they contacted me and asked me to do it to challenge Melbourne Water. I had to look at it. Like, this you shouldn't have done this. Like, I I I'm not jealous to Melbourne Water. Like, there's nothing I can do here for you. And and if anything, I'm just gonna make them annoyed at me. So I'm not this I don't agree with what you've done. Yeah. And I have to fix it or find someone else who will yeah. Exactly. So Yep. Yep. Oh, it doesn't help anyone, right, when when you get to that point. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Totally. Totally. That's right. Exactly. And and it's just that's right. Yeah. And and you you know that it's it's not gonna ever be fixed in a couple of weeks. You know? Like, it's one of those ones where you go out and look to compliance. You're like, okay. Maybe in five years or two years, we might get somewhere we might get a you know? And it's just not the way. It doesn't work. It's it's not a good system, and it sucks that you have to do it. But, I mean, I I know it has its place, but it's the the proactiveness is just yeah. It's where it really lies, isn't it? Yes. That's right. That's right. Yep. Totally agree. Alright. Well, have a good weekend. Yeah. Are you your father? No. Okay. Oh, that's close enough. I got I got I got six trucks there. I'm I'm a father to all those trucks as well. That's it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad because bird flu is starting to freak me out. So I'm glad I got chokes. Well, yeah, I've only ever had to put down one chook, and that was I've I've I've usually cull my own animals, but yeah, I I I've got quails, and they're not they're not bad. Like, they're not too hard to cull because they're so small, and and, honestly, I don't know how they survive. They're just they're prey. They're the most prey animal I've ever been around. But chickens are just yeah. Personalities, it it it it adds a little bit to it. They really do. It's it's that's yeah. That's not surprising. They they do. They yeah. I love them. I absolutely love them. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Well, I'm gonna have to come out there at some point because, yeah, I'd love to yeah. Even even when we do yeah. Or I guess when you have that conversation, I'd love to come out. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when we're coming towards this, yeah, this this point end where it's gonna be we're really gonna have to show them everything. I think walking through the site with them is probably gonna be really important. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Great. Oh, perfect. Awesome. Alright. Well, you have a good week, and I'll speak to you soon. Thanks. 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And and especially considering they definitely did not tell me as much as what they as they should have when I did the assessment originally. So, yeah, it's that's it.\n\nWell, I usually, I call out to try and manage it, but, yeah, I I probably should have done my due diligence a bit better. Usually, I think I try to pick and choose my assessments pretty well, and this one obviously was an early one that I did not pick it early. It didn't start off well, this one, to be honest. Gavin, I end up driving to there's a 50 Farmers Road about a 100 kilometers south of the site, and that's where my GPS sent me. Yeah.\n\nWell, I wasn't clever enough to check it, and so I I I was very far away and then had to drive all the way to meet them. And, yep, that that was a good start. That was my first time going out on-site. So it was good learning as well. I I haven't done that type of thing since.\n\nSo that's it. Exactly. That's right. That is right. Yeah.\n\nOh, brilliant. Well, thanks so much for calling. That's really helpful. I I I hope that I wasn't out of line. I didn't want to put you offside or make you feel uncomfortable.\n\nSo yeah. Yep. Yep. Great. Yeah.\n\nExactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. And we need to get this done quick.\n\nYeah. That's right. That's that's what I'm worried about. Yeah. Because especially we're coming into we're coming into a pretty hectic time.\n\nIt's gonna get worse, so we really do need to get it done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good.\n\nYeah. I mean, we need to get it I I mean, we're coming into the worst months of generally, worst months of flooding right now. So, yeah, I need to get something. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brilliant.\n\nGreat. Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. Brilliant.\n\nThanks so much. Thanks, Kevin. I really appreciate it. Alright. Will you please.\n\nYes. Yes. Yep. I'd love to. We we so I usually do I would do the concept for them and then get a a designer in on my team to do it.\n\nSo yeah. I I absolutely yep. Yep. Absolutely. Anything to do with waterway yeah.\n\nBasically, I'm I'm keen. And, yeah, even if there's stormwater management plans, I know that you that CMA's don't typically go I I've started dabbling in them. I only usually do them in rural Victoria because I I know rural Victoria a bit more than I like than I want anything to do with Melbourne. It gets a little bit dense in Melbourne. But, yeah, any anything to do with water, typically, I I I dabble in and and can assist with.\n\nAnd if I can't, then typically, I would send them to. I've I've got quite a few friends who run their own businesses now. It's funny. We all seem to, like, gravitate to one another. Anyway, so, yeah, I'll be able to recommend people as well.\n\nYep. Okay. Yes. Yes. Okay.\n\nYes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nSure. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Okay.\n\nNo. Yeah. It and and yeah. I guess, especially with the for those ones, what would you design? Would you design to the 1%, or is that too much?\n\nOkay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Great. Okay. Yeah.\n\nYep. And consistent. Yeah. Okay. So do have have they got survey of the area?\n\nOr they because they're they're gonna need to. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah.\n\nBecause I think survey would basically solve our issue if if if we can figure out where their level levels are. So yeah. Easy. Perfect. Great.\n\nYeah. Well, yeah, please let me let me know. I'd I'd love to. And, yeah, if if there are any look. I I'd love to do smaller flood assessments as well.\n\nAnd and so if there's ever any requests, I'm I'm happy to help. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we could just use high eight though. 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And and so with that type of project, realistically, if we if I have the lidar, and I can just do two cross sections, put in either a two culverts or a Crest in high a, that, you know, that's three or four hours of and then I could give you just an email, like, of what what the level differences are, and then you can go off being like, that's gonna result in this, this, and this.\n\nYeah. So, yeah, if you need a just a little bit more detail, I'm happy. And and like I've like I said with Kanab Hopkins, I've got, like, a a signed up contract where we say whenever they need me, it's just I'll just charge hours $1.60, and then then I just do what they need me to do. And typically, I usually say or they usually tell me how much money they've got to spend on it, and then I try to stick within that. So yeah.\n\nWell, that's that's I that's why. Yeah. Because usually, if I'm working with well yeah. And and, I I mean, it it also depends on the same, mate. For example, like, if it's North Central, typically, it's like, oh, yeah.\n\nJust charge it if you want because they managed to ask for more money straight up front. So they're they're sorted typically, but then when it's other smaller ones like Karangama or whatever, even though Karangama is not small, but they're not particularly well financed. There's I mean, there might be more financed than others. But anyway, yeah, I'd I'd I'd basically just try to fit in with what needs what what the needs are or the possibilities, I guess. So yeah.\n\nLook. Anything yeah. Let me know. And and and I guess the other thing is I wanna work with you. So if there's some way just like that's we can't do it for that, then I like, I prefer to work around, figure out how we can because, you know, if it's cheaper, but then I get bulk of them, then, you know, I don't I don't really mind.\n\nYou know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yep. Yeah. And then yeah. 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Maybe in five years or two years, we might get somewhere we might get a you know?\n\nAnd it's just not the way. It doesn't work. It's it's not a good system, and it sucks that you have to do it. But, I mean, I I know it has its place, but it's the the proactiveness is just yeah. It's where it really lies, isn't it?\n\nYes. That's right. That's right. Yep. Totally agree.\n\nAlright. Well, have a good weekend. Yeah. Are you your father? No.\n\nOkay. Oh, that's close enough. I got I got I got six trucks there. I'm I'm a father to all those trucks as well. That's it.\n\nExactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad because bird flu is starting to freak me out. So I'm glad I got chokes.\n\nWell, yeah, I've only ever had to put down one chook, and that was I've I've I've usually cull my own animals, but yeah, I I I've got quails, and they're not they're not bad. Like, they're not too hard to cull because they're so small, and and, honestly, I don't know how they survive. They're just they're prey. They're the most prey animal I've ever been around. But chickens are just yeah.\n\nPersonalities, it it it it adds a little bit to it. They really do. It's it's that's yeah. That's not surprising. They they do.\n\nThey yeah. I love them. I absolutely love them. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nDefinitely. Well, I'm gonna have to come out there at some point because, yeah, I'd love to yeah. Even even when we do yeah. Or I guess when you have that conversation, I'd love to come out. I think so.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Especially when we're coming towards this, yeah, this this point end where it's gonna be we're really gonna have to show them everything. I think walking through the site with them is probably gonna be really important. That's right.\n\nThat's right. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Great.\n\nOh, perfect. Awesome. Alright. Well, you have a good week, and I'll speak to you soon. 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Good, Alex. How are you? That's good. You've been you've been busy. Yeah. You're alright. It's almost done. I've still got a few things to kick off, and you're on the list. So I I I was just gonna say I can't give you a formal response today because Adam's on leave and I do need to have a discussion with him about your proposal. But I think it's probably a relatively good idea and a way to move forward personally. So I'll be pushing that angle, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I think it's yeah. I was just gonna say, I agree with you that that it's like it's a little bit of you can plan as much as you like, but when something's on the ground, it might be a little bit different. So are you over are you over planning for something that doesn't need it, or you're getting pretty close? Let's see how it how it looks, and then we can work it out from there, isn't it really? So so that yeah. So but it's not my call. In this instance, it's not my call. It's gotta be Adam's call. And that's fair, but I just thought I'd ring you and say, yeah, I think you're on the right track. And it's not unusual that we have done a couple of things that have on average met the requirement over a large area. Yeah. Some of us have been under pivot and things like that where we've been doing a bit of averaging of of floodplain as long as I think the thing that's important is we look at the drainage lines and we look at is it gonna block a flow of a drainage line? So where they exist, maybe we need to think about, okay, what what's happening there? And is is 10 too much or enough? Or if we went to five there, what would happen? So I think by taking your approach, we kind of find those spots, wouldn't we? Anyway, and then that's the discussion about, oh, it's a big issue or it's it is impacting somebody else or, hey, it's not actually impacting anybody else or they might agree to it. If it's only five or six or whatever, then that is a matter of, you know, making contacts with them and and getting their approval to say, yeah, it's okay. We're okay with that. Because Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So so so how are Glenda and Jane handling it? Are they freaking out? Or Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. Across the line. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. No. That's a good idea. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Agree. Yep. That's right. It's a shit sandwich. Right? It really is a shit sandwich. 100 percent. I totally get it. It is a shit sandwich. And and that's what happens when someone goes off tap and just does their own shit. Every now and again, you gotta come back and pay the piper and and it'll be no different with him, although I think it'll be a lot more adversarial with him because that's the type of guy that he was. Yep. Yep. Yep. Love you, hoe. That's right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Bye. Where, mate? That's it. You you've learned your lesson on that one, haven't you? Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, yeah. Yep. My my GPS has has hooked me into that before too, and I've gone, oh, that's just not right. No. No. Yep. Yep. Got it. Yep. No. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Good, man. Yep. So little steps like that that you pick up along the way, isn't it, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. No. That's alright. No. No. No. No. No. No. This this is exactly what we're doing. I think we're trying to mitigate a great a a a the better outcome that we can get to resolve this because there's no good the way it is. And these sort of conversations are the ones that we need to have so that we can continue you can continue doing your job with some confidence, and we can actually get end up with a, you know, a relatively good outcome. Because, you know, there's there's unfortunately, well, unfortunately, unfortunately, we have to have a little bit of give and take. We've all got a story to sell here. And the best story we can tell is the collaboration. Exactly. Yeah. We we've been so lucky, I think, with weather conditions and everything else that this hasn't already caused, you know, a whole heap of issues for them and for for the neighbors. Me too. Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's right. And this is a chance to do it, like, yeah, to get on the ground and get some just some stuff happening. This is the time. And I and I'll be pushing that with Shire as well, like, saying, hey. This thing can't just sit around while you guys deliberate whether you are or you are not gonna give them a planning permit to do this. It really needs to happen and needs to happen quickly because the the risk of damage to other properties in the current state is huge, and we can't have that. So that's that'll be my angle. Once again, it's Adam's call, but that's what I'll be suggesting. Yeah. For all this, try and keep it keep it going. Yeah. Get it fixed. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's right. Yeah. We have a plan in place. Yeah. Exactly. And so this is all working towards it. So, yeah, so I'll I think Adam's back Monday. I'll I'll catch up with him then and maybe Tuesday at the latest. And well, I'll talk to Penny one or the other. So so I could sort of get that happening. Someone's acting in his bath or something. So so it's not just me, and I'll send you something back to the email. Alright? This is good. That's alright, Alex. Hey. Now that's good. I'll pick your brain on something else if I can. I've got HVP who need to reinstate a Ford Crossing on Rentals Creek, and they've asked me whether I know any design engineers that would would look at that. I've said I've got a couple of names, but I I want to know whether that's sort of a job that you'd be interested in in so I can put you on the list. Yeah. Cool. Yep. Yep. So if I gave him if I gave him. Yep. Yeah. Good. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Good. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. No worries. I think that'd be good. I just wanna someone that I know will understand the bigger picture for this. What's happened in the past? A quick quick pricing is they put a culvert in there a few years ago, raised it up so that they could get their b doubles across because it's all about, you know, departure angle and approach angles. Right? The culvert was a fail because what they did was they created a dam and a waterfall pretty much and just ate the COVID away. And so now they've realized, and I've been talking to the guy and made him understand that afford is the better outcome. And the thing to change would be the approach and the departure angles so that you can get in and out with that without mucking with the waterway so much. So I think I've got him on board. And the the other interesting part about this is that about thirty years ago, there was a rock shoot. It must have been a bit of a a thing that happened down there, a bit of a fight or whatever. And CMA or Trump River Trust or whoever it was at the day, built a rock shoot upstream and a rock shoot downstream. And when they put the culvert in, they effectively stuffed the waterway rock chute concept because they put this big dam in the middle of it pretty much. And and, of course, the water came up and then it's just basically going around the the the downstream rock shoot and just eroded all the bank away. And it's also lumped and made a big, big mess. And it's on private land on the other side. It's it's yeah. So it needs it needs to be fixed, and there needs to be some work done on the rock sheet upstream and downstream, which CMA will probably end up doing, which is fine. But I just wanted to make sure that that was considered in the design. So I wanted somebody I could put a name for it and somebody that will understand that there's just a bit more than just building the reinstalling the four that was there. I think it'd be a similar circumstance because 1% is probably too much because it's just all flooded anyway. So you had to have maybe a couple of couple of runs. And I think even in this circumstance, I reckon when they put the COVID in, all they did was they belted out the middle of the Ford and just busted up all the concrete and dropped the put some bedding down and then drop the pipes in, which is why they're too high pretty much. And the apron is probably still existing. It's definitely existing on the south or southern side of the crossing, and I reckon it's probably under the rock on the other side. So it could be really straightforward and easy. Right? It might not be a big one, but but I think it just needs to be confirmed that, yep, that's a good thing, and this is the right height you need to set it at because of the shoot upstream and the shoot downstream to make everything work effectively in that space. That's what I'm more interested in, not not so much about four designs or four design and the approach angles and the departure angles. It's just roading. So you can, you know, have at it. You know, anything I'm considering there is make sure the drainage is accurate and doesn't just go straight back into the waterway. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. They probably I'm not sure what they've got. So yeah. So there's a question, so there might need to be a survey done as well. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Alright. I've got a I've got another landholder who approached me last week about putting into and, you know, I was talking to them on the phone pretty much while I was driving out to this one. And I go, you've got a Ford Crossing now. You wanna put Colvin to you, and then I pulled up a rental street. And I went, yeah, that's the outcome when you do shit like that. And it's on a bend. You know what I mean? It's just all wrong. I think it's all wrong. So I don't know what ballpark me a figure. If I was to get somebody to get you to assess a site to change from a Ford to a Colbert Crossing, there might need to be some fudd modeling eight flux done, I suppose, in that circumstance. Can you ballpark me a dollar? Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. No. Really? Okay. Right here. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Mhmm. Okay. Alright. Yeah. Good. Okay. Yep. Yep. So it's a good starting point. So yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Fair enough. That's alright. Yep. Well well, our our budget is always zero, I reckon. So I'd be farming it out. I'd be farming it out to the customer really. So yeah. Yeah. Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yep. No. I get I totally understand it. That's right. Exactly. So I like to say, I'll probably have another conversation with Adam about how we do that. But and and also with, you know, some of the landholders, I might say, well, here's the person you need to talk to to get this assessment done, and that'll give us a lot more confidence about sizing your COVIDs and everything else. If you want if you really wanna do this, my advice to them might still be don't do it. You know? But if you really wanna know, this is this is what you need to, you know, need to consider. So I think there's there's quite a few people out there who are just going ahead and going, oh, I can buy this part for this much. I'm just gonna put it in. And Exactly. Yes. Yep. I can't help you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's for me too. I wanna be proactive. That's like, I don't wanna be reactive in this space. I wanna be able to go there and say, well, I think this and this is the reason why, and here's an example of how it would look. Instead of coming back and saying, I told so. You know? Well, what the hell have you done here? No. It doesn't help me. I just didn't yeah. So it's a it's a total waste of my time going down the compliance route because we don't have enough teeth anyway in the first place. And normally, those people are quite aggressive and and you're not gonna get anywhere. So and then they're looking for someone else to blame pretty much. So I'd rather I'd rather work proactively. Yep. We're rolling. Yep. Yep. Yeah. That's where you get the good value and a good relate like, good long term relationships and and that work from these these sort of conversations. You know? That's it. I'm upset. So yeah. Good. Right, Alex. Thank you. Have a good weekend, aren't you? No. No. Luckily me. I think I think there's a horse there's a horse and a dog and a couple of cows that might do something, but that's about it. That's good. Have you alright. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You might get six eggs from Father's Day. What's your say? All chicken for tea, whichever way you go. Yes. Some of this is a bit hard. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They do have personalities. I got a friend who's she's got this ongoing relationship with her rooster. So this is gonna end badly because the rooster is now protecting her from her husband. It's like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Oh, well, I'll I'll I'm sure we can swap some stories one day. I know I've watched some stories. Chicken is dying. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah. We was it Jane? Yeah. Jane and Glenda, we probably need to meet around the table. That would be good because that might be yeah. I I well, I'm certainly out for that whether I can get out of here or not. He's pretty busy, but definitely I'll I'll be out there to do that with them as well so we can work out. Yeah. The reality. Yeah. The reality. Yeah. Walk the place. Yeah. Walk the farm and say, this is this high now, and it's gonna be that high. And, you know, we got the gear. We got the survey gear if you know we could use that and you'd be sure you have to. 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Good, Alex. How are you? That's good. You've been you've been busy.\n\nYeah. You're alright. It's almost done. I've still got a few things to kick off, and you're on the list. So I I I was just gonna say I can't give you a formal response today because Adam's on leave and I do need to have a discussion with him about your proposal.\n\nBut I think it's probably a relatively good idea and a way to move forward personally. So I'll be pushing that angle, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYep. I think it's yeah. I was just gonna say, I agree with you that that it's like it's a little bit of you can plan as much as you like, but when something's on the ground, it might be a little bit different. So are you over are you over planning for something that doesn't need it, or you're getting pretty close? Let's see how it how it looks, and then we can work it out from there, isn't it really?\n\nSo so that yeah. So but it's not my call. In this instance, it's not my call. It's gotta be Adam's call. And that's fair, but I just thought I'd ring you and say, yeah, I think you're on the right track.\n\nAnd it's not unusual that we have done a couple of things that have on average met the requirement over a large area. Yeah. Some of us have been under pivot and things like that where we've been doing a bit of averaging of of floodplain as long as I think the thing that's important is we look at the drainage lines and we look at is it gonna block a flow of a drainage line? So where they exist, maybe we need to think about, okay, what what's happening there? And is is 10 too much or enough?\n\nOr if we went to five there, what would happen? So I think by taking your approach, we kind of find those spots, wouldn't we? Anyway, and then that's the discussion about, oh, it's a big issue or it's it is impacting somebody else or, hey, it's not actually impacting anybody else or they might agree to it. If it's only five or six or whatever, then that is a matter of, you know, making contacts with them and and getting their approval to say, yeah, it's okay. We're okay with that.\n\nBecause Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah.\n\nSo so so how are Glenda and Jane handling it? Are they freaking out? Or Yep. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nMhmm. Yep. Across the line. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nGood. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nNo. That's a good idea. Yep. Yeah. Yep.\n\nAgree. Yep. That's right. It's a shit sandwich. Right?\n\nIt really is a shit sandwich. 100 percent. I totally get it. It is a shit sandwich. And and that's what happens when someone goes off tap and just does their own shit.\n\nEvery now and again, you gotta come back and pay the piper and and it'll be no different with him, although I think it'll be a lot more adversarial with him because that's the type of guy that he was. Yep. Yep. Yep. Love you, hoe.\n\nThat's right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Bye.\n\nWhere, mate? That's it. You you've learned your lesson on that one, haven't you? Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Oh, yeah. Yep. My my GPS has has hooked me into that before too, and I've gone, oh, that's just not right. No.\n\nNo. Yep. Yep. Got it. Yep.\n\nNo. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Good, man.\n\nYep. So little steps like that that you pick up along the way, isn't it, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Cool. No. That's alright.\n\nNo. No. No. No. No.\n\nNo. This this is exactly what we're doing. I think we're trying to mitigate a great a a a the better outcome that we can get to resolve this because there's no good the way it is. And these sort of conversations are the ones that we need to have so that we can continue you can continue doing your job with some confidence, and we can actually get end up with a, you know, a relatively good outcome. Because, you know, there's there's unfortunately, well, unfortunately, unfortunately, we have to have a little bit of give and take.\n\nWe've all got a story to sell here. And the best story we can tell is the collaboration. Exactly. Yeah. We we've been so lucky, I think, with weather conditions and everything else that this hasn't already caused, you know, a whole heap of issues for them and for for the neighbors.\n\nMe too. Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's right.\n\nAnd this is a chance to do it, like, yeah, to get on the ground and get some just some stuff happening. This is the time. And I and I'll be pushing that with Shire as well, like, saying, hey. This thing can't just sit around while you guys deliberate whether you are or you are not gonna give them a planning permit to do this. It really needs to happen and needs to happen quickly because the the risk of damage to other properties in the current state is huge, and we can't have that.\n\nSo that's that'll be my angle. Once again, it's Adam's call, but that's what I'll be suggesting. Yeah. For all this, try and keep it keep it going. Yeah.\n\nGet it fixed. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's right.\n\nYeah. We have a plan in place. Yeah. Exactly. And so this is all working towards it.\n\nSo, yeah, so I'll I think Adam's back Monday. I'll I'll catch up with him then and maybe Tuesday at the latest. And well, I'll talk to Penny one or the other. So so I could sort of get that happening. Someone's acting in his bath or something.\n\nSo so it's not just me, and I'll send you something back to the email. Alright? This is good. That's alright, Alex. Hey.\n\nNow that's good. I'll pick your brain on something else if I can. I've got HVP who need to reinstate a Ford Crossing on Rentals Creek, and they've asked me whether I know any design engineers that would would look at that. I've said I've got a couple of names, but I I want to know whether that's sort of a job that you'd be interested in in so I can put you on the list. Yeah.\n\nCool. Yep. Yep. So if I gave him if I gave him. Yep.\n\nYeah. Good. Okay. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Yeah. Good. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Okay. No worries. I think that'd be good. I just wanna someone that I know will understand the bigger picture for this.\n\nWhat's happened in the past? A quick quick pricing is they put a culvert in there a few years ago, raised it up so that they could get their b doubles across because it's all about, you know, departure angle and approach angles. Right? The culvert was a fail because what they did was they created a dam and a waterfall pretty much and just ate the COVID away. And so now they've realized, and I've been talking to the guy and made him understand that afford is the better outcome.\n\nAnd the thing to change would be the approach and the departure angles so that you can get in and out with that without mucking with the waterway so much. So I think I've got him on board. And the the other interesting part about this is that about thirty years ago, there was a rock shoot. It must have been a bit of a a thing that happened down there, a bit of a fight or whatever. 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So I don't know what ballpark me a figure. If I was to get somebody to get you to assess a site to change from a Ford to a Colbert Crossing, there might need to be some fudd modeling eight flux done, I suppose, in that circumstance.\n\nCan you ballpark me a dollar? Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nNo. Really? Okay. Right here. Yep.\n\nYep. Yep. Yep. Mhmm. Okay.\n\nAlright. Yeah. Good. Okay. Yep.\n\nYep. So it's a good starting point. So yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Fair enough. That's alright. Yep. Well well, our our budget is always zero, I reckon.\n\nSo I'd be farming it out. I'd be farming it out to the customer really. So yeah. Yeah. Yep.\n\nMhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nThat's right. Yeah. Yep. No. I get I totally understand it.\n\nThat's right. Exactly. So I like to say, I'll probably have another conversation with Adam about how we do that. But and and also with, you know, some of the landholders, I might say, well, here's the person you need to talk to to get this assessment done, and that'll give us a lot more confidence about sizing your COVIDs and everything else. If you want if you really wanna do this, my advice to them might still be don't do it.\n\nYou know? But if you really wanna know, this is this is what you need to, you know, need to consider. So I think there's there's quite a few people out there who are just going ahead and going, oh, I can buy this part for this much. I'm just gonna put it in. And Exactly.\n\nYes. Yep. I can't help you. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. And that's for me too. I wanna be proactive. That's like, I don't wanna be reactive in this space. I wanna be able to go there and say, well, I think this and this is the reason why, and here's an example of how it would look.\n\nInstead of coming back and saying, I told so. You know? Well, what the hell have you done here? No. It doesn't help me.\n\nI just didn't yeah. So it's a it's a total waste of my time going down the compliance route because we don't have enough teeth anyway in the first place. And normally, those people are quite aggressive and and you're not gonna get anywhere. So and then they're looking for someone else to blame pretty much. So I'd rather I'd rather work proactively.\n\nYep. We're rolling. Yep. Yep. Yeah.\n\nThat's where you get the good value and a good relate like, good long term relationships and and that work from these these sort of conversations. You know? That's it. I'm upset. So yeah.\n\nGood. Right, Alex. Thank you. Have a good weekend, aren't you? No.\n\nNo. Luckily me. I think I think there's a horse there's a horse and a dog and a couple of cows that might do something, but that's about it. That's good. Have you alright.\n\nOh, there you go. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You might get six eggs from Father's Day.\n\nWhat's your say? All chicken for tea, whichever way you go. 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We got the survey gear if you know we could use that and you'd be sure you have to. But, yeah, we want measurements or whatever.\n\nWe can we can plot it all and take it out and put the put put the bit in the ground, so to speak. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Good stuff.\n\nYeah. Thanks, mate. You too. Catch you later. Bye.\n\nBye. 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How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good, Alex. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Good. Thank you.\n\nChannel 1: That's good.\n\nChannel 0: How's\n\nChannel 1: You've been\n\nChannel 0: how's\n\nChannel 1: you've\n\nChannel 0: your\n\nChannel 1: been\n\nChannel 0: week\n\nChannel 1: busy.\n\nChannel 0: going?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. You're alright. It's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: almost done. I've still got a few things to kick off, and you're on the list. So\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: I I I was just gonna say I can't give you a formal response today because Adam's on leave and I do need to have a discussion with him about your proposal.\n\nChannel 0: Sure.\n\nChannel 1: But I think it's probably a relatively good idea and a way to move forward personally. So I'll be pushing that angle, I guess, is what I'm\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: trying to say.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Great. Yeah. Look,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I figured\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it might be a long shot, but it yeah. I just because it I mean, who knows? Maybe the lower smaller events are still gonna have a bit of an issue, so we may still need to do a bit of work. But,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I just feel\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: like\n\nChannel 1: think\n\nChannel 0: it it\n\nChannel 1: it's yeah. I\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: was just\n\nChannel 0: oh,\n\nChannel 1: gonna\n\nChannel 0: sorry.\n\nChannel 1: say,\n\nChannel 0: Go for\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: agree with you that that it's like it's a little bit of you can plan as much as you like, but when something's on the ground, it might be a little bit different. So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: are you over are you over planning for something that doesn't need it, or you're getting pretty close?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Let's see how it how it looks, and then we can work it out from there, isn't it really?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: so that\n\nChannel 0: right. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. So but it's not my call. In this instance, it's not my call. It's gotta be Adam's call. And that's fair, but I just thought I'd ring you and say, yeah, I think you're on the right track.\n\nChannel 0: Awesome.\n\nChannel 1: And it's not unusual that we have done a couple of things that have on average met the requirement over a large area. Yeah. Some of us have been under pivot and things like that where we've been\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: doing a bit of averaging of of floodplain\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: as long as I think the thing that's important is we look at the drainage lines and we look at is it gonna block a flow of a drainage line? So\n\nChannel 0: That's right.\n\nChannel 1: where they exist, maybe we need to think about, okay, what what's happening there? And is is 10 too much or enough? Or if we went to five there, what would happen? So I think\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: by taking your approach, we kind of find those spots, wouldn't we?\n\nChannel 0: That's right. That's right.\n\nChannel 1: Anyway, and then that's the discussion about, oh, it's a big issue or it's it is impacting somebody else or, hey, it's not actually impacting anybody else or they might agree to it. If it's only\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: five\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: or six or whatever, then that is a matter of, you know, making contacts with them and and getting their approval to say, yeah, it's\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: okay. We're okay with that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And\n\nChannel 1: Because\n\nChannel 0: and as long as we're not putting it for longer, which based on what I can tell from the 1%, we've now allowed enough going through. So we've stopped pushing back on other others, which is kind of what I was hoping would work and\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Okay. Great.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So so so how are Glenda and Jane handling it? Are they freaking out? Or\n\nChannel 0: No. Not necessarily. I think they're okay with it because I think they were I think they were worried that maybe they're gonna have to scrape the whole site.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: To be honest, I was a bit worried that maybe they were gonna have to take out, you know, heaps and heaps. It's still not a I mean, it's still gonna be a fair bit of work for them. I don't think they fully understand how much\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: work it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: gonna be, but I I think I'm just gonna try and push the the the fact that Glenn is super keen on re vegging.\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Trying to push that a little bit and be like, well, look, you're gonna have to re veg and make it sculpt it a little bit better, which might be a way to get her involved.\n\nChannel 1: Across the\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: line.\n\nChannel 0: I guess that's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: how I'm\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I'm trying\n\nChannel 1: Good.\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: say\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Because otherwise\n\nChannel 1: No. That's a good\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: idea.\n\nChannel 0: I don't think it's gonna yeah. Because I and I'll just say how much, you know, how much we've saved based on not having to scrape the whole site. Because it it yeah. It will be a bit of work, but there'd be nothing compared to having to redo the whole thing.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So,\n\nChannel 1: Agree.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, I\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: think\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: they\n\nChannel 1: right.\n\nChannel 0: the looks they're they're they're I think they're just I think their their frustration or upsetness is probably it seems largely towards the guy who did all the work across the like, it's it's I think we I get sometimes I get feel I feel like I get, like, a radiated frustration or anger, but I I know that it's not necessarily directed towards us. It's just, like, they they've just been put in a you know? Like, it's\n\nChannel 1: It's a\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: shit sandwich. Right? It\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: really\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: is a shit sandwich. 100\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: percent. I totally get\n\nChannel 0: That\n\nChannel 1: it. It is a shit\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: sandwich.\n\nChannel 0: is exactly right.\n\nChannel 1: And and that's what happens when someone goes off tap and just does their own shit.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: Every now and again, you gotta come back and pay the piper and and it'll be no different with him, although I think it'll be a lot more adversarial with him because\n\nChannel 0: Well, that's\n\nChannel 1: that's\n\nChannel 0: exactly\n\nChannel 1: the type\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: of guy that he\n\nChannel 0: I'm\n\nChannel 1: was.\n\nChannel 0: I'm thanking, yeah, I'm thanking our stars that both of them honestly, even the guy who hired me was a bit difficult. So I'm kinda glad both of them are out of it. It's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: It's it's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: much better this way, especially yeah. And and especially considering they definitely did not tell me as much as what they as they should have when I did the assessment originally.\n\nChannel 1: Love you, hoe.\n\nChannel 0: So,\n\nChannel 1: That's right. Exactly. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it's\n\nChannel 1: Bye. Where, mate? That's it. You you've learned your lesson\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: on that\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: one, haven't\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: you?\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: usually, I call out to try and manage it, but, yeah, I I probably should have done my due diligence a bit better. Usually, I think I try to pick and choose my assessments pretty well, and this one obviously was an early one that I did not pick it early.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: It didn't start off well, this one, to be honest. Gavin, I end up driving to there's a 50 Farmers Road about a 100 kilometers south of the site, and that's where my\n\nChannel 1: Oh, yeah.\n\nChannel 0: GPS\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: sent\n\nChannel 1: My\n\nChannel 0: me.\n\nChannel 1: my GPS has has hooked me into that before too, and I've gone, oh, that's just not right. No. No.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Well, I wasn't\n\nChannel 1: Got it.\n\nChannel 0: clever enough to check it, and so I I I was very far away and then had to drive all the way to meet them. And, yep, that that was a good start. That was my\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: first\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: time going out on-site.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: So it was\n\nChannel 1: Fair\n\nChannel 0: good\n\nChannel 1: enough.\n\nChannel 0: learning as well. I I haven't\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: done\n\nChannel 1: Good,\n\nChannel 0: that type\n\nChannel 1: man.\n\nChannel 0: of thing since. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep. So little steps like that that you pick up along the way, isn't it,\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: really?\n\nChannel 0: it. Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: That's right. That is right. Yeah. Oh, brilliant.\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: Well, thanks so much for calling. That's really helpful. I I\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: hope\n\nChannel 1: alright.\n\nChannel 0: that I wasn't out of line. I didn't want to put you offside\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: or\n\nChannel 1: No. No.\n\nChannel 0: make\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: you feel\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: uncomfortable.\n\nChannel 1: No. This\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: this is exactly what we're doing. I think we're trying to mitigate a great a a a the better outcome that we can get to resolve this because there's no\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: good the way it is.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: these\n\nChannel 0: Great.\n\nChannel 1: sort of conversations are the ones that we need to have so that we can continue you can continue doing your job with some confidence, and we can actually get end up with a, you know, a relatively good outcome.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: Because, you\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: know, there's there's unfortunately, well, unfortunately, unfortunately, we have to have a little bit of give and take. We've all got a story to sell here.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: And the best story\n\nChannel 0: And we\n\nChannel 1: we\n\nChannel 0: need\n\nChannel 1: can\n\nChannel 0: to get\n\nChannel 1: tell is\n\nChannel 0: this done\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: quick.\n\nChannel 1: collaboration. Exactly. Yeah. We\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we've been so lucky, I think, with weather conditions and everything else that this hasn't\n\nChannel 0: That's right.\n\nChannel 1: already caused, you know, a whole heap of issues for them and\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: for\n\nChannel 0: that's what I'm worried about.\n\nChannel 1: for the\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: neighbors.\n\nChannel 0: Because especially\n\nChannel 1: Me too.\n\nChannel 0: we're coming\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: into we're coming into a pretty\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: hectic time. It's gonna get worse, so\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: we really\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: do need\n\nChannel 1: right. And\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: this is a\n\nChannel 0: get\n\nChannel 1: chance\n\nChannel 0: it done.\n\nChannel 1: to do it, like, yeah, to get on the ground and get some just some stuff happening. This is the time. And I and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I'll be pushing that with Shire as well, like, saying,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: hey. This thing can't just sit around while you guys deliberate whether you are or you are not gonna give them a planning\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: permit to do this. It really needs to happen and needs to happen quickly because the the risk of damage to other properties in the current state is huge, and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we can't have that. So that's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: that'll be\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: my angle. Once again,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: it's Adam's call, but that's what I'll be suggesting. Yeah. For all this, try and keep\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: it keep it going.\n\nChannel 0: Good. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: Get\n\nChannel 0: mean,\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: we need\n\nChannel 1: fixed.\n\nChannel 0: to get it I I mean, we're coming into the worst months of generally,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: worst months of flooding\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: right\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: now. So, yeah, I need to get something.\n\nChannel 1: That's right.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. We have\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: a plan in place. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Exactly. And so\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: this\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: is all working towards it. So,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah,\n\nChannel 0: Brilliant.\n\nChannel 1: so I'll I think Adam's back Monday. I'll I'll catch up with him then and\n\nChannel 0: Great.\n\nChannel 1: maybe Tuesday at the latest. And well, I'll talk to Penny one or the other. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: Brilliant.\n\nChannel 1: I could sort of get that happening. Someone's acting in his bath or something. So so it's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: not\n\nChannel 0: Brilliant.\n\nChannel 1: just me, and I'll send you something back to the email. Alright? This is\n\nChannel 0: Thanks so much. Thanks, Kevin.\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: I really appreciate\n\nChannel 1: That's alright,\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: Alex. Hey.\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Now\n\nChannel 0: Will\n\nChannel 1: that's good. I'll pick your brain on something else\n\nChannel 0: you\n\nChannel 1: if I can.\n\nChannel 0: please.\n\nChannel 1: I've got HVP who need to reinstate a Ford Crossing\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: on Rentals Creek,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: and they've asked me whether I know any design engineers that would would look at that.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: I've said I've got a couple of names, but I I want to know whether that's sort of a job that you'd be interested in in so\n\nChannel 0: I'd\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: love to. We\n\nChannel 1: can\n\nChannel 0: we so I usually do\n\nChannel 1: put\n\nChannel 0: I would do\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: the concept for them and then\n\nChannel 1: on\n\nChannel 0: get a\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: a designer in on my\n\nChannel 1: list.\n\nChannel 0: team to do it. So yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: I absolutely\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: if I gave\n\nChannel 0: Anything\n\nChannel 1: him\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: if\n\nChannel 0: do\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: with\n\nChannel 1: gave\n\nChannel 0: waterway\n\nChannel 1: him.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Basically,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I'm I'm keen.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And,\n\nChannel 1: Good.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, even\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: if there's stormwater management plans, I know that you that CMA's don't typically go I I've started dabbling in them. I only usually do them in rural Victoria because I I know rural Victoria a bit more than I like than I want anything to do with Melbourne. It gets a little bit\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: dense in Melbourne.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: But, yeah, any anything to do with water, typically, I I I dabble in and\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and can assist with. And if I can't, then typically, I would send them to. I've I've got quite a few friends who run their own businesses now. It's funny. We all seem to, like, gravitate to one another.\n\nAnyway,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good.\n\nChannel 0: so, yeah,\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I'll be able to recommend people as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Okay. No worries. I think that'd be good. I just wanna someone that I know will understand the bigger picture for this.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: What's happened in the past? A quick quick pricing is they put a culvert in there a few years ago, raised it up so that they could get their b doubles across because it's all about, you\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: know, departure angle and approach angles. Right?\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: The culvert\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: was a fail because what they did was they created a dam and a waterfall pretty much and just ate the COVID away.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: And so now they've realized, and I've been talking to the guy and made him understand that afford is the better outcome. And the thing to change would be the approach and the departure angles so that you\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: can get in and out with that without mucking with the waterway so much.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: So I think I've got him on board. And the the other interesting part about this is that about thirty years ago, there was a rock shoot. It must have been a bit of a a thing that happened down there, a bit of a fight or whatever. And CMA or Trump River Trust or whoever it was at the day, built a rock shoot upstream and a rock shoot downstream. And when they put the culvert in, they effectively stuffed the waterway rock chute concept because they put this big dam in the middle of it pretty much.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and, of course, the water came up and then it's just basically going around the the the downstream rock shoot and just eroded all the bank away. And it's\n\nChannel 0: Sure.\n\nChannel 1: also lumped and made a big, big mess. And it's on private\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: land on the other side. It's it's yeah. So it needs it needs to be fixed, and there needs to be some work done on the rock sheet upstream and downstream, which CMA will probably end up doing, which is fine.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: But I just wanted to make sure that that was considered in the design. So I wanted\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: somebody\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: I could put a name for it and somebody that will understand that there's just a bit more than just building the reinstalling the four that was there.\n\nChannel 0: No. Yeah. It and and yeah. I guess, especially with the for those ones, what would you design? Would you design to the 1%, or is that too much?\n\nChannel 1: I think it'd be a similar circumstance\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: because 1% is probably too much because it's just all flooded anyway. So you had to\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: maybe a couple of couple of runs.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: And I think even in this circumstance, I reckon when they put the COVID in, all they did was they belted out the middle of the Ford and just\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: busted up all the concrete and dropped the put some bedding down and then drop the pipes in,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: which is why they're too high pretty much.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And the apron is probably still existing. It's definitely\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: existing on the south or southern side of the crossing, and I reckon it's probably\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: under the rock on the other side. So it could be really straightforward and easy. Right? It might not be\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: a big\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: one, but but I think it just needs to be confirmed that, yep, that's a good thing, and this is the right height you need to set it at because of the shoot upstream and the shoot downstream to make everything\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: work\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: effectively in that space. That's what I'm more interested in, not not so\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: much\n\nChannel 0: Great.\n\nChannel 1: about four designs or four design and the approach angles\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: and the departure angles. It's just roading. So you can, you know, have at it. You know, anything I'm considering there is make sure the drainage is accurate\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and doesn't\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: just go straight back\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: into\n\nChannel 0: consistent.\n\nChannel 1: the waterway. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: do have\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: have they got survey of the area? Or they because they're they're gonna need to.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. They probably I'm not sure what they've got.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: So yeah. So there's a question, so there might need to be a survey\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: done as\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: well.\n\nChannel 0: Because I think\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: survey\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: would basically solve our issue if if if we can figure out\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: where their level levels\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: are. So yeah. Easy. Perfect. Great.\n\nYeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Well, yeah, please let me let me know. I'd I'd love to. And, yeah, if if there are any look. I I'd love to do smaller flood assessments as well. And and so if there's ever any\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: requests,\n\nChannel 1: Good.\n\nChannel 0: I'm I'm happy to help.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. I've got a I've got another landholder who approached me last week about putting into and, you know, I was talking to them on the phone pretty much while I was driving out to this one. And I go, you've got a Ford Crossing now. You wanna put Colvin to you, and then I pulled up a rental street. And I went, yeah, that's the outcome when you do shit like that.\n\nAnd it's on a\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: bend. You know what I mean? It's just all wrong. I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: think it's all wrong. So I don't know what ballpark me a figure. If I was to get somebody to get you to assess a site to change from a Ford to a Colbert Crossing, there might need to be some fudd modeling eight flux done, I suppose, in that circumstance.\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: Can\n\nChannel 0: we\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: could\n\nChannel 1: ballpark\n\nChannel 0: just use\n\nChannel 1: me\n\nChannel 0: high\n\nChannel 1: a dollar?\n\nChannel 0: eight though. We could we could\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: probably just use HyH as like a one because if it's confined waterway,\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and we just have HyH so it spills over, we'd be able to tell tell you the difference between the flood levels,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and then you could probably just use the lidar. So it wouldn't be much, honestly, Kevin. Like, if if that that it might be less than less than a grand, maybe a grand.\n\nChannel 1: No. Really? Okay. Right here. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Well, because because we we could just do a couple of like, I I guess what I do for so what I do for Peter Robertson, GHCMA,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I do hourly. So when when if I need an hourly assessment, I'm doing a a peer review of MRVP. I'm sorry. They they've got, like, a duplication project going on the river, and they're not very\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: happy with the person who did it. And so I'm just doing a review, but I just do the hourly. They and then they charge the hourly to the clients. Or if they if it's just for them, I usually do it on a much cheaper hourly, so, like, $1.60\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: an hour.\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm. Okay. Alright.\n\nChannel 0: And and so with that type of project, realistically, if we if I have the lidar, and I can just do two cross sections, put in either a two culverts or a Crest in high a, that, you know, that's three or four hours of and then I could give you just an email, like, of what what the level differences are, and then you can go off being like, that's gonna result in this, this, and this.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good. Okay. Yep. Yep.\n\nSo it's a good starting point. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So, yeah,\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if you need a just a little bit more detail, I'm happy. And and like I've like I said with Kanab Hopkins, I've got, like, a a signed up contract where we say whenever they need me, it's just I'll just charge hours $1.60, and then then I just do what they need me to do. And typically,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I usually say or they usually tell me how much money they've got to spend on it, and then I try to stick within that. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. Fair enough. That's alright. Yep.\n\nWell well,\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: our our budget is always zero, I reckon.\n\nChannel 0: Well, that's that's I that's why. Yeah. Because\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: usually,\n\nChannel 1: I'd be\n\nChannel 0: if I'm\n\nChannel 1: farming\n\nChannel 0: working with\n\nChannel 1: it out. I'd be farming it out to the customer really. So yeah.\n\nChannel 0: well\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. And and, I I mean, it it also depends on the same, mate. For example, like, if it's North Central, typically, it's like, oh, yeah. Just charge it if you want because they managed to ask for more money straight up front. So they're they're sorted typically, but then when it's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: other smaller ones like Karangama or whatever, even though Karangama is not small, but they're not particularly well financed. There's I mean, there might be more financed than others. But anyway, yeah, I'd I'd I'd basically just try to fit in with what needs what what the needs are or the\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: possibilities, I guess. So yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Look.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Anything yeah. Let me know. And and and I guess the other thing is I wanna work with you. So if there's some way just like that's we can't do it for that, then I like, I prefer to work around, figure out how we can because,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you know, if it's cheaper, but then I get bulk of them, then, you know, I don't I don't really mind. You know what I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: mean?\n\nChannel 1: That's right. Yeah. Yep. No. I get I\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: totally understand it. That's right. Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So I like to say, I'll probably have another conversation with Adam about how we do that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But and and also with, you know, some of the landholders, I might say, well, here's the person you need to talk to to get this assessment done, and that'll give us a lot more confidence about sizing your COVIDs and everything else. If you want if you really wanna do this, my advice to them might still be don't do it. You know? But\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: if you really\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: wanna know, this is this is what you need to, you know, need to consider. So I think\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: there's\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: there's\n\nChannel 0: then\n\nChannel 1: quite a few people out there who are just going ahead and going, oh, I can buy this part for this much. I'm just gonna put it in.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: I've I've I've just had one just rural Vic. Sorry. No. Just outside Melbourne, which is kind of a VCAT case, and they contacted me and asked me to do it to challenge Melbourne Water. I had to look at it.\n\nLike, this you shouldn't have done this. Like, I I I'm not jealous to Melbourne Water. Like, there's nothing\n\nChannel 1: Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: I can do here for you. And and\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: if anything, I'm just gonna make them annoyed at me. So I'm not this I don't agree with what you've done. Yeah. And I have\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to fix it\n\nChannel 1: I can't\n\nChannel 0: or find\n\nChannel 1: help\n\nChannel 0: someone\n\nChannel 1: you.\n\nChannel 0: else who will yeah. Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: And that's for me too. I wanna be proactive. That's like, I don't wanna be reactive in this space. I wanna be able to go there and say, well, I think this and this is the reason why, and here's an example\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: of how it would look. Instead of coming back and saying, I told so. You know? Well,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: what the hell\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: doesn't\n\nChannel 1: done\n\nChannel 0: help\n\nChannel 1: here?\n\nChannel 0: anyone, right,\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: when\n\nChannel 1: It doesn't\n\nChannel 0: when\n\nChannel 1: help\n\nChannel 0: you\n\nChannel 1: me.\n\nChannel 0: get to\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: point.\n\nChannel 1: didn't\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. So it's a it's a\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: total waste of my time going down the compliance route because we don't have\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: enough teeth anyway in the first place. And normally, those people are quite aggressive and and you're not gonna get anywhere. So\n\nChannel 0: Totally.\n\nChannel 1: and then\n\nChannel 0: Totally.\n\nChannel 1: they're looking for someone else to blame pretty much. So\n\nChannel 0: That's right.\n\nChannel 1: I'd rather\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: I'd rather\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: work\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: proactively.\n\nChannel 0: it's just that's right. Yeah. And and you you know that it's it's not gonna ever be fixed in a couple of weeks. You know? Like, it's one of those ones where you go out and look to compliance.\n\nYou're like, okay. Maybe in five years or two years,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: we\n\nChannel 1: We're\n\nChannel 0: might get\n\nChannel 1: rolling.\n\nChannel 0: somewhere we might get a you know? And it's just not the way. It doesn't work. It's it's not a good system, and it sucks that you have to do it. But, I mean, I I\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: know it has its place, but it's the the proactiveness is just yeah. It's where it really lies, isn't it?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah. That's where you get the good value and a good relate\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: like, good long term relationships and and that\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: work\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: from these these sort of conversations. You know?\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: That's it.\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: I'm upset.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Totally agree.\n\nChannel 1: So yeah. Good. Right, Alex. Thank you.\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Have a\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: good weekend,\n\nChannel 0: have a good\n\nChannel 1: aren't\n\nChannel 0: weekend.\n\nChannel 1: you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Are you your father?\n\nChannel 1: No. No. Luckily me.\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: I think I\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: think there's a horse there's a horse and a dog and a couple of cows that might do something, but that's about it.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, that's\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: close\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: enough. I got I got I got six trucks there. I'm I'm a father\n\nChannel 1: Have\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: all those\n\nChannel 1: alright.\n\nChannel 0: trucks\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: as\n\nChannel 1: there\n\nChannel 0: well.\n\nChannel 1: you go. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You might get six eggs from Father's Day.\n\nChannel 0: That's it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad because bird flu is starting to freak me out.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 1: What's\n\nChannel 0: I'm glad\n\nChannel 1: your\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: say?\n\nChannel 0: got\n\nChannel 1: All\n\nChannel 0: chokes.\n\nChannel 1: chicken for\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: tea, whichever way you go.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, I've only ever had to put down one chook, and that was I've I've I've usually cull my own animals, but yeah,\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Some\n\nChannel 0: I I\n\nChannel 1: of this is\n\nChannel 0: I've got\n\nChannel 1: a bit\n\nChannel 0: quails,\n\nChannel 1: hard.\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: they're\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: not\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: they're not bad. Like, they're not too hard to cull because they're so small, and and, honestly,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I don't know how they survive. They're just they're prey. They're the most prey animal I've ever been around. But chickens are just yeah. Personalities, it it it it adds a little bit to it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They do have personalities.\n\nI got a friend\n\nChannel 0: They really\n\nChannel 1: who's\n\nChannel 0: do.\n\nChannel 1: she's got this ongoing relationship with her rooster. So this is gonna end badly because the rooster is now protecting her from her husband. It's like\n\nChannel 0: It's it's that's yeah. That's not surprising. They they do. They\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. I love\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: them. I absolutely\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: love them.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Good.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: well, I'll I'll I'm sure we can swap some stories one day. I know I've watched some\n\nChannel 0: Definitely.\n\nChannel 1: stories.\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: Chicken\n\nChannel 0: I'm gonna\n\nChannel 1: is dying.\n\nChannel 0: have to come out there at some point because, yeah, I'd love\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: Good.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Even even when we do yeah. Or I guess\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: when you\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: have that\n\nChannel 1: We\n\nChannel 0: conversation,\n\nChannel 1: was it Jane?\n\nChannel 0: I'd love\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: Jane\n\nChannel 0: come out.\n\nChannel 1: and Glenda, we probably need to meet around the table. That would be good because\n\nChannel 0: I think\n\nChannel 1: that might\n\nChannel 0: so.\n\nChannel 1: be yeah. I I well, I'm certainly out for that whether I can get out of here or not. He's pretty busy, but definitely\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I'll I'll be out there to do that with\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: them as well so we can work\n\nChannel 0: Especially\n\nChannel 1: out.\n\nChannel 0: when we're coming towards this, yeah, this this point end\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: where it's gonna\n\nChannel 1: The\n\nChannel 0: be\n\nChannel 1: reality.\n\nChannel 0: we're really\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: gonna\n\nChannel 1: The reality.\n\nChannel 0: have to show them everything. I think walking through\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: the site with\n\nChannel 1: Walk\n\nChannel 0: them\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: is\n\nChannel 1: place.\n\nChannel 0: probably gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: be really\n\nChannel 1: Walk the\n\nChannel 0: important.\n\nChannel 1: farm and say, this is this high now, and it's gonna be that high. And, you know, we\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: got\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: the gear. We got the survey gear if you know we could use that and you'd be sure you have to. But, yeah, we want measurements or whatever. We can we can plot it all and take it out and\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: put the\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: put put the bit in the ground, so to speak. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Great.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: Oh, perfect.\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Awesome.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Good stuff.\n\nChannel 0: Well, you have a good week, and I'll speak to you soon.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Thanks, mate. You too. Catch you later.\n\nChannel 0: Thanks.\n\nChannel 1: Bye.\n\nChannel 0: Bye.\n\nChannel 1: Bye. 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This thing can't just sit around while you guys deliberate whether you are or you are not gonna give them a planning Yeah. permit to do this. It really needs to happen and needs to happen quickly because the the risk of damage to other properties in the current state is huge, and Yeah. we can't have that. So that's Yeah. that'll be Yeah. my angle. Once again, Yeah. it's Adam's call, but that's what I'll be suggesting. Yeah. For all this, try and Yeah. keep it keep it going. Good. Yeah. Yeah. I Get mean, we it need to fixed. get it I I mean, we're coming into the worst months of generally, Yep. worst months of flooding Yep. right Yep. now. So, yeah, I need to get something. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. We have Yeah. a plan in place. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And so Yeah. this Yeah. is all working towards it. So, Yeah. yeah, Brilliant. so I'll I think Adam's back Monday. I'll I'll catch up with him then and Great. maybe Tuesday at the latest. And well, I'll talk to Penny one or the other. So Yeah. so Brilliant. I could sort of get that happening. Someone's acting in his bath or something. So so it's Yeah. not Brilliant. just me, and I'll send you something back to the email. Alright?","start_word":1445,"end_word":1838,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03689020265101781},{"text":"This is Thanks so much. Thanks, Kevin. good.","start_word":1839,"end_word":1846,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.389257550239563},{"text":"I really appreciate That's alright, it. Alex. Hey. Alright. Now Will that's good. I'll pick your brain on something else you if I can. please. I've got HVP who need to reinstate a Ford Crossing Yes. on Rentals Creek, Yes. and they've asked me whether I know any design engineers that would would look at that. Yep. I've said I've got a couple of names, but I I want to know whether that's sort of a job that you'd be interested in in so I'd I love to. We can we so I usually do put I would do you the concept for them and then on get a the a designer in on my list. team to do it. So yeah. Yeah.","start_word":1847,"end_word":1969,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.11700599713296424},{"text":"I Cool. I absolutely Yep.","start_word":1970,"end_word":1974,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5522672533988953},{"text":"yep. Yep. Yep. So Absolutely. if I gave Anything him to if do I with gave waterway him. yeah. Basically, Yep. I'm I'm keen. Yeah. And, Good. yeah, even Okay. if there's stormwater management plans, I know that you that CMA's don't typically go I I've started dabbling in them. I only usually do them in rural Victoria because I I know rural Victoria a bit more than I like than I want anything to do with Melbourne. It gets a little bit Yep. dense in Melbourne. Yep. But, yeah, any anything to do with water, typically, I I I dabble in and Yep. and can assist with. And if I can't, then typically, I would send them to. I've I've got quite a few friends who run their own businesses now. It's funny. We all seem to, like, gravitate to one another. Anyway, Yeah. Good. so, yeah, Yep. Yep.","start_word":1975,"end_word":2124,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08426102995872498},{"text":"I'll be able to recommend people as well.","start_word":2125,"end_word":2132,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3751233220100403},{"text":"Yep. Okay. No worries.","start_word":2133,"end_word":2136,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1656113564968109},{"text":"I think that'd be good.","start_word":2137,"end_word":2141,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3348860740661621},{"text":"I just wanna someone that I know will understand the bigger picture for this. Yep. What's happened in the past? A quick quick pricing is they put a culvert in there a few years ago, raised it up so that they could get their b doubles across because it's all about, you Okay. know, departure angle and approach angles. Right? Yes. The culvert Yes. was a fail because what they did was they created a dam and a waterfall pretty much and just ate the COVID away. Okay.","start_word":2142,"end_word":2229,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0737684965133667},{"text":"And so now they've realized, and I've been talking to the guy and made him understand that afford is the better outcome.","start_word":2230,"end_word":2251,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.37720128893852234},{"text":"And the thing to change would be the approach and the departure angles so that you Yes. can get in and out with that without mucking with the waterway so much. Yes.","start_word":2252,"end_word":2283,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.19105160236358645},{"text":"So I think I've got him on board.","start_word":2284,"end_word":2291,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3888528645038605},{"text":"And the the other interesting part about this is that about thirty years ago, there was a rock shoot. It must have been a bit of a a thing that happened down there, a bit of a fight or whatever. And CMA or Trump River Trust or whoever it was at the day, built a rock shoot upstream and a rock shoot downstream. And when they put the culvert in, they effectively stuffed the waterway rock chute concept because they put this big dam in the middle of it pretty much. Yeah. And Yeah. Yeah. and, of course, the water came up and then it's just basically going around the the the downstream rock shoot and just eroded all the bank away. And it's Sure.","start_word":2292,"end_word":2416,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.10144102573394775},{"text":"also lumped and made a big, big mess.","start_word":2417,"end_word":2424,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4305073022842407},{"text":"And it's on private Yeah. land on the other side. It's it's yeah. So it needs it needs to be fixed, and there needs to be some work done on the rock sheet upstream and downstream, which CMA will probably end up doing, which is fine. Yep. But I just wanted to make sure that that was considered in the design. So I wanted Yeah. somebody Okay. I could put a name for it and somebody that will understand that there's just a bit more than just building the reinstalling the four that was there. No. Yeah. It and and yeah. I guess, especially with the for those ones, what would you design? Would you design to the 1%, or is that too much? I think it'd be a similar circumstance Okay.","start_word":2425,"end_word":2556,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06461777538061142},{"text":"because 1% is probably too much because it's just all flooded anyway.","start_word":2557,"end_word":2568,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4542153775691986},{"text":"So you had to Yeah. have Yeah. maybe a couple of couple of runs. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I think even in this circumstance, I reckon when they put the COVID in, all they did was they belted out the middle of the Ford and just Yeah. busted up all the concrete and dropped the put some bedding down and then drop the pipes in, Yep. which is why they're too high pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. And the apron is probably still existing. It's definitely Yeah. existing on the south or southern side of the crossing, and I reckon it's probably Okay. under the rock on the other side. So it could be really straightforward and easy. Right? It might not be Yeah. a big Okay. one, but but I think it just needs to be confirmed that, yep, that's a good thing, and this is the right height you need to set it at because of the shoot upstream and the shoot downstream to make everything Yeah. work Okay. effectively in that space. That's what I'm more interested in, not not so Yeah. much Great. about four designs or four design and the approach angles Okay. and the departure angles. It's just roading. So you can, you know, have at it. You know, anything I'm considering there is make sure the drainage is accurate Yeah. and doesn't Yep. just go straight back And into consistent. the waterway. Yep. Yeah. Okay. So Yep. do have Yep. have they got survey of the area? Or they because they're they're gonna need to. Yeah. They probably I'm not sure what they've got. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. So there's a question, so there might need to be a survey Okay. done as Yeah. well. Because I think Yes. survey Yep. would basically solve our issue if if if we can figure out Yeah. where their level levels Yeah. are. So yeah.","start_word":2569,"end_word":2886,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.026427449763945815},{"text":"Easy. Perfect. Great.","start_word":2887,"end_word":2889,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5218405723571777},{"text":"Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, please let me let me know.","start_word":2890,"end_word":2899,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24115301668643951},{"text":"I'd I'd love to.","start_word":2900,"end_word":2903,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4254514276981354},{"text":"And, yeah, if if there are any look.","start_word":2904,"end_word":2911,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.21556177735328672},{"text":"I I'd love to do smaller flood assessments as well.","start_word":2912,"end_word":2921,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4000733494758606},{"text":"And and so if there's ever any Yeah.","start_word":2922,"end_word":2929,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.02797321230173111},{"text":"requests, Good. I'm I'm happy to help.","start_word":2930,"end_word":2936,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6330900192260742},{"text":"Alright. I've got a I've got another landholder who approached me last week about putting into and, you know, I was talking to them on the phone pretty much while I was driving out to this one. And I go, you've got a Ford Crossing now. You wanna put Colvin to you, and then I pulled up a rental street. And I went, yeah, that's the outcome when you do shit like that. And it's on a Yeah. bend. You know what I mean?","start_word":2937,"end_word":3020,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.05013576149940491},{"text":"It's just all wrong.","start_word":3021,"end_word":3024,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.35125505924224854},{"text":"I Yeah. think it's all wrong. So I don't know what ballpark me a figure. If I was to get somebody to get you to assess a site to change from a Ford to a Colbert Crossing, there might need to be some fudd modeling eight flux done, I suppose, in that circumstance. Well, Can we you could ballpark just use me high a dollar? eight though. We could we could Yeah. probably just use HyH as like a one because if it's confined waterway, Yep. Yep. and we just have HyH so it spills over, we'd be able to tell tell you the difference between the flood levels, Yep. and then you could probably just use the lidar. So it wouldn't be much, honestly, Kevin. Like, if if that that it might be less than less than a grand, maybe a grand. No. Really? Okay. Right here. Yep. Well, because because we we could just do a couple of like, I I guess what I do for so what I do for Peter Robertson, GHCMA, Yep. I do hourly. So when when if I need an hourly assessment, I'm doing a a peer review of MRVP. I'm sorry. They they've got, like, a duplication project going on the river, and they're not very Yep.","start_word":3025,"end_word":3239,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.05952940508723259},{"text":"happy with the person who did it.","start_word":3240,"end_word":3246,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3479781150817871},{"text":"And so I'm just doing a review, but I just do the hourly. They and then they charge the hourly to the clients. Or if they if it's just for them, I usually do it on a much cheaper hourly, so, like, $1.60 Yep. an hour. Mhmm. Okay. Alright. And and so with that type of project, realistically, if we if I have the lidar, and I can just do two cross sections, put in either a two culverts or a Crest in high a, that, you know, that's three or four hours of and then I could give you just an email, like, of what what the level differences are, and then you can go off being like, that's gonna result in this, this, and this. Yeah.","start_word":3247,"end_word":3374,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1051107794046402},{"text":"Good. Okay. Yep. Yep. So it's a good starting point. So Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. if you need a just a little bit more detail, I'm happy.","start_word":3375,"end_word":3401,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5773063898086548},{"text":"And and like I've like I said with Kanab Hopkins, I've got, like, a a signed up contract where we say whenever they need me, it's just I'll just charge hours $1.60, and then then I just do what they need me to do. And typically, Yep. I usually say or they usually tell me how much money they've got to spend on it, and then I try to stick within that. So Yep. Yep. Fair enough. That's alright. Yep. Well well, yeah. our our budget is always zero, I reckon. Well, that's that's I that's why. Yeah. Because So usually, I'd be if I'm farming working with it out. I'd be farming it out to the customer really. So yeah. well Yeah. yeah. And and, I I mean, it it also depends on the same, mate. For example, like, if it's North Central, typically, it's like, oh, yeah. Just charge it if you want because they managed to ask for more money straight up front. So they're they're sorted typically, but then when it's Yep. other smaller ones like Karangama or whatever, even though Karangama is not small, but they're not particularly well financed. There's I mean, there might be more financed than others. But anyway, yeah, I'd I'd I'd basically just try to fit in with what needs what what the needs are or the Mhmm. possibilities, I guess. So yeah. Yeah. Look. Yeah. Anything yeah. Let me know. And and and I guess the other thing is I wanna work with you. So if there's some way just like that's we can't do it for that, then I like, I prefer to work around, figure out how we can because, Yeah. you know, if it's cheaper, but then I get bulk of them, then, you know, I don't I don't really mind. You know what I Yeah. mean? That's right. Yeah. Yep. No. I get I Right. totally understand it. That's right. Exactly. Yeah. So I like to say, I'll probably have another conversation with Adam about how we do that. Yeah. Yeah. But and and also with, you know, some of the landholders, I might say, well, here's the person you need to talk to to get this assessment done, and that'll give us a lot more confidence about sizing your COVIDs and everything else. If you want if you really wanna do this, my advice to them might still be don't do it. You know? But Yeah. if you really Yep. wanna know, this is this is what you need to, you know, need to consider. So I think Yeah. there's And there's then quite a few people out there who are just going ahead and going, oh, I can buy this part for this much. I'm just gonna put it in. yeah. Yeah. And I've I've I've just had one just rural Vic. Sorry. No. Just outside Melbourne, which is kind of a VCAT case, and they contacted me and asked me to do it to challenge Melbourne Water. I had to look at it.","start_word":3402,"end_word":3912,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03921397953292395},{"text":"Like, this you shouldn't have done this. Like, I I I'm not jealous to Melbourne Water.","start_word":3913,"end_word":3928,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4636273980140686},{"text":"Like, there's nothing Exactly. I can do here for you. And and Yes.","start_word":3929,"end_word":3941,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2633107602596283},{"text":"if anything, I'm just gonna make them annoyed at me. So I'm not this I don't agree with what you've done.","start_word":3942,"end_word":3962,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5727506279945374},{"text":"Yeah. And I have Yep. to fix it I can't or find help someone you. else who will yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So And that's for me too. I wanna be proactive. That's like, I don't wanna be reactive in this space. I wanna be able to go there and say, well, I think this and this is the reason why, and here's an example Yep. of how it would look. Instead of coming back and saying, I told so. You know? Well, Yep. what the hell Oh, have it you doesn't done help here? anyone, right, No. when It doesn't when help you me. get to I that just point. didn't Yeah. yeah. So it's a it's a Yes.","start_word":3963,"end_word":4083,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06785590946674347},{"text":"total waste of my time going down the compliance route because we don't have Yes. enough teeth anyway in the first place. And normally, those people are quite aggressive and and you're not gonna get anywhere.","start_word":4084,"end_word":4119,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4143774211406708},{"text":"So Totally. and then Totally.","start_word":4120,"end_word":4124,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.3042412996292114},{"text":"they're looking for someone else to blame pretty much.","start_word":4125,"end_word":4133,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4290855824947357},{"text":"So That's right. I'd rather Exactly. I'd rather And work and proactively. it's just that's right. Yeah. And and you you know that it's it's not gonna ever be fixed in a couple of weeks. You know? Like, it's one of those ones where you go out and look to compliance. You're like, okay. Maybe in five years or two years, Yep. we We're might get rolling. somewhere we might get a you know?","start_word":4134,"end_word":4207,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.002145525168728184},{"text":"And it's just not the way. It doesn't work. It's it's not a good system, and it sucks that you have to do it.","start_word":4208,"end_word":4231,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.45091915130615234},{"text":"But, I mean, I I Yep. know it has its place, but it's the the proactiveness is just yeah. It's where it really lies, isn't it? Yep. Yeah.","start_word":4232,"end_word":4259,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0637364536523819},{"text":"That's where you get the good value and a good relate Yes.","start_word":4260,"end_word":4271,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.36249279975891113},{"text":"like, good long term relationships and and that That's work right. from these these sort of conversations. You know? That's That's it. right. I'm upset. Yep. Totally agree. So yeah.","start_word":4272,"end_word":4301,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06195572391152382},{"text":"Good.","start_word":4302,"end_word":4302,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.35713788866996765},{"text":"Right, Alex.","start_word":4303,"end_word":4304,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.28638219833374023},{"text":"Thank you.","start_word":4305,"end_word":4306,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.413248598575592},{"text":"Alright.","start_word":4307,"end_word":4307,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.3062880039215088},{"text":"Have a Well, good weekend, have a good aren't weekend.","start_word":4308,"end_word":4317,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3744103014469147},{"text":"you? Yeah. Are you your father? No. No. Luckily me. No. I think I Okay. think there's a horse there's a horse and a dog and a couple of cows that might do something, but that's about it. Oh, that's That's close good. enough. I got I got I got six trucks there. I'm I'm a father Have to you all those alright. trucks Oh, as there well. you go. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You might get six eggs from Father's Day. That's it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad because bird flu is starting to freak me out. So What's I'm glad your I say? got All chokes. chicken for Well, tea, whichever way you go. yeah, I've only ever had to put down one chook, and that was I've I've I've usually cull my own animals, but yeah, Yes. Some I I of this is I've got a bit quails, hard. and Alright. they're Yeah. not Yeah. they're not bad. Like, they're not too hard to cull because they're so small, and and, honestly, Yep. I don't know how they survive. They're just they're prey. They're the most prey animal I've ever been around. But chickens are just yeah. Personalities, it it it it adds a little bit to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They do have personalities. I got a friend They really who's do. she's got this ongoing relationship with her rooster.","start_word":4318,"end_word":4551,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.012574425938292446},{"text":"So this is gonna end badly because the rooster is now protecting her from her husband.","start_word":4552,"end_word":4567,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3462727963924408},{"text":"It's like It's it's that's yeah. That's not surprising. They they do. They yeah. yeah.","start_word":4568,"end_word":4582,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.016907820478081703},{"text":"I love Yeah. them. I absolutely Yeah. love them.","start_word":4583,"end_word":4591,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5049166083335876},{"text":"Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Oh, Yeah. well, I'll I'll I'm sure we can swap some stories one day. I know I've watched some Definitely. stories. Well, Chicken I'm gonna is dying. have to come out there at some point because, yeah, I'd love Yeah. to Good. yeah. Even even when we do yeah. Or I guess Yeah. when you Yeah. have that We conversation, was it Jane? I'd love Yeah. to Jane come out. and Glenda, we probably need to meet around the table. That would be good because I think that might so. be yeah. I I well, I'm certainly out for that whether I can get out of here or not. He's pretty busy, but definitely Yeah. I'll I'll be out there to do that with Yeah. them as well so we can work Especially out. when we're coming towards this, yeah, this this point end Yeah. where it's gonna The be reality. we're really Yeah. gonna The reality. have to show them everything. I think walking through Yeah. the site with Walk them the is place. probably gonna Yeah. be really Walk the important. farm and say, this is this high now, and it's gonna be that high. And, you know, we That's got right. the gear. We got the survey gear if you know we could use that and you'd be sure you have to. But, yeah, we want measurements or whatever. We can we can plot it all and take it out and That's put the right. put put the bit in the ground, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.","start_word":4592,"end_word":4857,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.035578206069487375},{"text":"Great. So Oh, perfect. yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Alright. Good stuff. Well, you have a good week, and I'll speak to you soon. Yeah. Thanks, mate. You too. Catch you later. Thanks. Bye.","start_word":4858,"end_word":4889,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6543565988540649},{"text":"Bye. Bye. Bye.","start_word":4890,"end_word":4892,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2329129129648209}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.009160392277825306}}}}