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I'm I'm hit start of the week. But, yeah, I'm I'm blaming on that. How are you going? Don't worry about look. I know. We're at the end of financial year. I I probably should've I should've waited until after so that we had a bit more time. So I completely appreciate that. Yeah. So I I we we spoke on we spoke on LinkedIn a a while ago, and, yeah, you mentioned that you need that you were you some that you needed flood assessments from time to time, sometimes like riverine or, sorry, bridges or what have you. And I I just I on LinkedIn, I find a really difficult way to talk to people. So I I just was hoping, I guess, to to speak to you and and to, yeah, I understand how or what we can do to see if we can help you, I guess, is why I was calling. I I've I've thankfully worked with a few councils, and I used to work with the flood sorry. CMA, Cashment Management Authority throughout Australia sorry. Throughout Victoria. And so, yeah, I've been really fortunate to work with government people. I've worked in that industry for some time, and I guess I I was hoping to, yeah, see see if if there's some way that maybe we could meet up or talk or or I guess understand how I can help or if yeah. I guess that's probably what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So I we do a lot of flood assessment. So I I do reef so hydrology, hydraulics. So if, if there's a new bridge or if there's a new culvert or whatever it is, we can do the sizing of that culvert and then check the impacts based on that culvert. We also do a large flood study, so, like, rivers, creeks, what have you. And and to we most of the time, we do a lot of, sorry, flood impact assessment for residential. We've also done flood impact assessments for council for when there's been illegal works. So for example, there's in North Central's region in Bendigo, there were a few sorry. In Castle Main. Sorry. Forgive me. In Castle Main, there were a few people who built put a lot of fill on their property, and the CMA wanted to understand what the impacts were. And so we did a flood study for the creek and then showed them that their impact was quite significant. And so they took that and they went to VCAT with it and and and challenged the developer who put all that fill in. So we've done those things as well. We've done due diligence. So and just to check whether or not a proposal is going to actually work or not. We've also done mitigation, like large mitigation schemes, levies, basins, what have you, just to to check whether or not they they're feasible, I guess, and also what what the impact is to the community. And then we've we've done flood response plans, so emergency response plans, risk management plans, and to to protect infrastructure. And then the last part of that, what we do is also statutory subcommons and also peer reviews. So at the moment, we're doing the Bar And Bay Creek peer review for Bal sorry, for Ballarat City Council, City of Ballarat. But a couple months ago sorry. Last month, I was working for the Glenel Cochrane's Catch Up Management Authority, which is essentially the CMA of, well, Warrnambool, and we're doing reviews and checks for their models as well. It's a lot yeah. Anything to do with reef sorry. Water flowing. I've tried to we've we've we've tried to step into look. We're we're a team. There's only three of us. So it's not we're we're any we're not my my goal is not to have hundreds of clients. My goal is to have a couple that I really enjoy working with. And, thankfully, my the catchment management authority are are some of those. I I I love working with their government, their their regional government, obviously, like Melbourne Water. So at the moment, I'm I'm not sure if you saw, but Melbourne Water released new guidelines on flood impacts. We we co wrote those. So, yeah, we're we're quite unique in the fact that we have both worked in government and in private consultant. So we kinda know what should be built, what should be what's what's acceptable based on the planning scheme and also the water act and all those kind of things. And, like, I I I I used to go on compliance assessments for the CMA when I worked at the CMA. So, yeah, we anything to do with flooding, riverine, whatever, or, like, a local and flow, we we can help. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. So we would we could build sorry. We'd figure out how much water is coming through. So depending on how you're assessing it, so you might have well, at the moment, most government are moving to catch sorry, to climate change. So we would assess the riverine climate change for typically SSP three, get the flow coming through for the 1%. If if it's if it's meant to be a primary access, if it's just a smaller road, then we can just model the typical water sorry, the typical flow rate. And then what we would do is we'd we'd develop a concept. So we'd say, okay. We're gonna put in four piers, and these are the these are the spacing between them. We'd be able to model run the model and then see how much flow could get through, if that's gonna impact private property, if that's going to and then we can say, okay. This is what velocity is coming through. It means you're gonna need to put these these sized the the size brick sorry, brick. What am I talking about? Rocks, rip wrap, whatever you need that to to protect it. So make sure that we've got the strength to batter it so it doesn't, you know, erode away. So, yeah, that's certainly something we do a bit of. Absolutely. Yeah. So we we would we would do it all. So we we if you if you, for example, say we're gonna we're thinking of build build this bridge here, we'd first approach Melbourne Water to make sure that we've got everything that they need, and then we would be able to design it based on their requirements, but also based on what you need as well. Look. The way that I like to work, honestly, is is I I wanna make sure that what we're doing is going to get accepted. So I I would always check with everyone to make sure that we're all happy before we progress to the next stage. So we we have our own designers as well, so we can do the detailed if you need. But, typically, the way that I like to do it is first the first stage is data collection, making sure that we've got all the information that we need to get this approved. And that's including, like, for example, if you're proposing a lot of new bridges, if the bridge is gonna be for just general traffic and it's not a a primary access route, then we don't need to necessarily build it so that it's going to be safe during a large flood event. But then if it's a bridge that's going to be the only access for hundreds of people, then we know that we have to build it above a flood level. We need to make sure that it's safe. So we like to try to stage our developments by data collection, testing, and then concepts. Yes. Well, it it yeah. Look. I would say, Paul. So the the longest time we'll be waiting for Melbourne Water to confirm what they want because they they Melbourne Water can take just to respond as I'm sure you know. But for our assessment, we'd be able to do at least the concept of flow within within a month. We because we're a small team and we only do specific, we're we're very quick with the way that we do it. And the way that I want to work, I guess, is I I wanna have I I I wanna have a few like I said, a few key people. So if you, for example, said, look. I need it in this many days. This is how much I've got for it. Can you do it? That's how I wanna be able to say, yep. Let's do it. We can do that. Yeah. So the I guess one of the biggest ones, there's so in Geelong, Geelong Port, the Tasmanian the the the spirit of Tasmania, we designed we helped design the level for which the boat came in. And so we had to also simulate all the bridges throughout that area. And so in order to figure out how we could get the level up, we had to make sure that those bridges were all safe with the water coming through. And so we we modeled multiple iterations in order to figure out how we can get to that to the level that we needed to do. So that was one of them. That was probably the biggest. That was a really complex job because we also had to do sea level rise. But we've also done recently most recently, there was a renewable development out in Victoria regional Victoria where their access was completely blocked, and they needed to build a bridge. So they we had to design the bridge based on what how how they actually got out of their renewable development. Thankfully, they didn't need to be above the 1% because the development you didn't need to always be in there. So we also wrote a flood response plan, which basically said if the flood's at this level, you can't access the site. But we also made sure that that bridge didn't impact anyone. So we we I like to work as like a, I guess, a full scope. So instead of just saying, oh, yeah, it works. I wanna make sure that, yes, it works, but does it is it fits the purpose? And so that that's, I guess, how we try to manage it. But yeah. It oh, sorry. Oh, I was gonna say we've we've done yeah. I've done hundreds of bridges throughout Australia, honestly. I've I've done which which one up north? I did one in Queensland for a there was a there's a a walk in the forest, I think it might be called. Anyway, they essentially, they they were proposing a walk bridge across a creek in a national park. And so we had to figure out how the spacing between the the railing, so not even the underneath. There was actually the railing between it to make sure that doesn't capture too much water. So there was that was quite complex. That was actually quite a difficult job, but, yeah, the idea was that they couldn't build above the flood level. It wasn't possible. So they needed to make sure that their design was had enough spacing in between. So and that was safe enough for people to cross, but also safe enough for the water to largely go through it. So it was it was it took a while. That was just Parks Australia if Parks Australia or Parks Queensland or whatever it was. That was that was a really fun one. But, yeah, typically, when we get a honestly, it's it's mostly the same. Once once there's a a proposed bridge, then we we would model simulate multiple iterations to try and figure out what is the most effective, but also what is the least impactful. Because I guess the part of the problem is when you're building a bridge is if you've built underbuilt it and it it becomes an obstruction, it means that if the increase is on private property, they could come back and say, look, you've you've made my land worse, and then you need to make sure that you've you're not obviously, there there's a case to be liable. So whatever we have to do is make sure that we are not making anyone any worse. Look. The easiest way to do that is to build a like for like. But if you haven't got the bridge there, then you can't can't, I guess, can't do that. So, yeah, it's it's it's a fun space because it's not just I mean, we we do it up to concept. We can also do design, but we we we like to make sure that whatever we're proposing, you know, I guess, is is fit for purpose, what you actually need. And so I guess the way that I'd like to work is by scoping it out with you more, and you can say this is what we need, and then we can, well, I guess, work together and figure out how we can achieve that. Yes. Yes. Oh, you know, that that's a classic. Honestly, that was part of the reason why I started my own business. I I hated the fact that a lot of the time it was, let's just this is what they've asked for. We're just gonna do that. And and instead of actually giving guidance or consulting, which is what you meant to do, it's just, okay. Yep. No. That's enough. That's fine. Send it off. And then knowing that you're not gonna get an approval, I I just I'm like I said, it made it made me feel a little bit sick. I didn't like it. So I I much prefer to if I'm submitting something, I want it to be constructible. I want it to be fit for purpose, and I also want it to be approvable. So and I think people get confused, especially if they haven't worked in government. I know that a lot of consultants get confused or they just don't care, but the difference between constructible and approvable is very different. You can construct them you can structure them anything. Yes. It will cost a long a lot a lot of money, but you can construct it. Well, is it approvable? That's not a lot of them don't really know that part of it, which, yeah, is a I've seen that problem a fair bit. Yep. Yes. That's right. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm I I what was your I don't think I have your email. Okay. Alright. Sorry. Let me just Nelson dot com. Oh, sorry. Can I put I'm just gonna put down the? Forget. Alright. Here we go. Mhmm. Great. The sun to s b a s a n t a? Perfect. B a santa yeah. A v s no. Just just s. Yep. A z at melton. Dot com dot a u. Easy. Perfect. Alright. So would you like anything else? Sorry. A capability statement. Is that all you'd like, or would you like anything else? Okay. Yeah. Done. Yep. Easy. Perfect. Alright. I will send that through to you today. Thanks so much, miss Santo. Thanks so much for calling. I really appreciate it. Thanks for calling me back. See you. Yeah. You too. Thank you. 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Hello. This is Valerie. Can I speak with a phone call? Good.\n\nThank you. How are you? Oh, I'm so sorry. Yes. Thank you for returning my phone call.\n\nI'm so sorry. Sorry. I'm I'm hit start of the week. But, yeah, I'm I'm blaming on that. How are you going?\n\nDon't worry about look. I know. We're at the end of financial year. I I probably should've I should've waited until after so that we had a bit more time. So I completely appreciate that.\n\nYeah. So I I we we spoke on we spoke on LinkedIn a a while ago, and, yeah, you mentioned that you need that you were you some that you needed flood assessments from time to time, sometimes like riverine or, sorry, bridges or what have you. And I I just I on LinkedIn, I find a really difficult way to talk to people. So I I just was hoping, I guess, to to speak to you and and to, yeah, I understand how or what we can do to see if we can help you, I guess, is why I was calling. I I've I've thankfully worked with a few councils, and I used to work with the flood sorry.\n\nCMA, Cashment Management Authority throughout Australia sorry. Throughout Victoria. And so, yeah, I've been really fortunate to work with government people. I've worked in that industry for some time, and I guess I I was hoping to, yeah, see see if if there's some way that maybe we could meet up or talk or or I guess understand how I can help or if yeah. I guess that's probably what I'm trying to say.\n\nYeah. Sure. Yeah. So I we do a lot of flood assessment. So I I do reef so hydrology, hydraulics.\n\nSo if, if there's a new bridge or if there's a new culvert or whatever it is, we can do the sizing of that culvert and then check the impacts based on that culvert. We also do a large flood study, so, like, rivers, creeks, what have you. And and to we most of the time, we do a lot of, sorry, flood impact assessment for residential. We've also done flood impact assessments for council for when there's been illegal works. So for example, there's in North Central's region in Bendigo, there were a few sorry.\n\nIn Castle Main. Sorry. Forgive me. In Castle Main, there were a few people who built put a lot of fill on their property, and the CMA wanted to understand what the impacts were. And so we did a flood study for the creek and then showed them that their impact was quite significant.\n\nAnd so they took that and they went to VCAT with it and and and challenged the developer who put all that fill in. So we've done those things as well. We've done due diligence. So and just to check whether or not a proposal is going to actually work or not. We've also done mitigation, like large mitigation schemes, levies, basins, what have you, just to to check whether or not they they're feasible, I guess, and also what what the impact is to the community.\n\nAnd then we've we've done flood response plans, so emergency response plans, risk management plans, and to to protect infrastructure. And then the last part of that, what we do is also statutory subcommons and also peer reviews. So at the moment, we're doing the Bar And Bay Creek peer review for Bal sorry, for Ballarat City Council, City of Ballarat. But a couple months ago sorry. Last month, I was working for the Glenel Cochrane's Catch Up Management Authority, which is essentially the CMA of, well, Warrnambool, and we're doing reviews and checks for their models as well.\n\nIt's a lot yeah. Anything to do with reef sorry. Water flowing. I've tried to we've we've we've tried to step into look. We're we're a team.\n\nThere's only three of us. So it's not we're we're any we're not my my goal is not to have hundreds of clients. My goal is to have a couple that I really enjoy working with. And, thankfully, my the catchment management authority are are some of those. I I I love working with their government, their their regional government, obviously, like Melbourne Water.\n\nSo at the moment, I'm I'm not sure if you saw, but Melbourne Water released new guidelines on flood impacts. We we co wrote those. So, yeah, we're we're quite unique in the fact that we have both worked in government and in private consultant. So we kinda know what should be built, what should be what's what's acceptable based on the planning scheme and also the water act and all those kind of things. And, like, I I I I used to go on compliance assessments for the CMA when I worked at the CMA.\n\nSo, yeah, we anything to do with flooding, riverine, whatever, or, like, a local and flow, we we can help. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.\n\nYeah. So we would we could build sorry. We'd figure out how much water is coming through. So depending on how you're assessing it, so you might have well, at the moment, most government are moving to catch sorry, to climate change. So we would assess the riverine climate change for typically SSP three, get the flow coming through for the 1%.\n\nIf if it's if it's meant to be a primary access, if it's just a smaller road, then we can just model the typical water sorry, the typical flow rate. And then what we would do is we'd we'd develop a concept. So we'd say, okay. We're gonna put in four piers, and these are the these are the spacing between them. We'd be able to model run the model and then see how much flow could get through, if that's gonna impact private property, if that's going to and then we can say, okay.\n\nThis is what velocity is coming through. It means you're gonna need to put these these sized the the size brick sorry, brick. What am I talking about? Rocks, rip wrap, whatever you need that to to protect it. So make sure that we've got the strength to batter it so it doesn't, you know, erode away.\n\nSo, yeah, that's certainly something we do a bit of. Absolutely. Yeah. So we we would we would do it all. So we we if you if you, for example, say we're gonna we're thinking of build build this bridge here, we'd first approach Melbourne Water to make sure that we've got everything that they need, and then we would be able to design it based on their requirements, but also based on what you need as well.\n\nLook. The way that I like to work, honestly, is is I I wanna make sure that what we're doing is going to get accepted. So I I would always check with everyone to make sure that we're all happy before we progress to the next stage. So we we have our own designers as well, so we can do the detailed if you need. But, typically, the way that I like to do it is first the first stage is data collection, making sure that we've got all the information that we need to get this approved.\n\nAnd that's including, like, for example, if you're proposing a lot of new bridges, if the bridge is gonna be for just general traffic and it's not a a primary access route, then we don't need to necessarily build it so that it's going to be safe during a large flood event. But then if it's a bridge that's going to be the only access for hundreds of people, then we know that we have to build it above a flood level. We need to make sure that it's safe. So we like to try to stage our developments by data collection, testing, and then concepts. Yes.\n\nWell, it it yeah. Look. I would say, Paul. So the the longest time we'll be waiting for Melbourne Water to confirm what they want because they they Melbourne Water can take just to respond as I'm sure you know. But for our assessment, we'd be able to do at least the concept of flow within within a month.\n\nWe because we're a small team and we only do specific, we're we're very quick with the way that we do it. And the way that I want to work, I guess, is I I wanna have I I I wanna have a few like I said, a few key people. So if you, for example, said, look. I need it in this many days. This is how much I've got for it.\n\nCan you do it? That's how I wanna be able to say, yep. Let's do it. We can do that. Yeah.\n\nSo the I guess one of the biggest ones, there's so in Geelong, Geelong Port, the Tasmanian the the the spirit of Tasmania, we designed we helped design the level for which the boat came in. And so we had to also simulate all the bridges throughout that area. And so in order to figure out how we could get the level up, we had to make sure that those bridges were all safe with the water coming through. And so we we modeled multiple iterations in order to figure out how we can get to that to the level that we needed to do. So that was one of them.\n\nThat was probably the biggest. That was a really complex job because we also had to do sea level rise. But we've also done recently most recently, there was a renewable development out in Victoria regional Victoria where their access was completely blocked, and they needed to build a bridge. So they we had to design the bridge based on what how how they actually got out of their renewable development. Thankfully, they didn't need to be above the 1% because the development you didn't need to always be in there.\n\nSo we also wrote a flood response plan, which basically said if the flood's at this level, you can't access the site. But we also made sure that that bridge didn't impact anyone. So we we I like to work as like a, I guess, a full scope. So instead of just saying, oh, yeah, it works. I wanna make sure that, yes, it works, but does it is it fits the purpose?\n\nAnd so that that's, I guess, how we try to manage it. But yeah. It oh, sorry. Oh, I was gonna say we've we've done yeah. I've done hundreds of bridges throughout Australia, honestly.\n\nI've I've done which which one up north? I did one in Queensland for a there was a there's a a walk in the forest, I think it might be called. Anyway, they essentially, they they were proposing a walk bridge across a creek in a national park. And so we had to figure out how the spacing between the the railing, so not even the underneath. There was actually the railing between it to make sure that doesn't capture too much water.\n\nSo there was that was quite complex. That was actually quite a difficult job, but, yeah, the idea was that they couldn't build above the flood level. It wasn't possible. So they needed to make sure that their design was had enough spacing in between. So and that was safe enough for people to cross, but also safe enough for the water to largely go through it.\n\nSo it was it was it took a while. That was just Parks Australia if Parks Australia or Parks Queensland or whatever it was. That was that was a really fun one. But, yeah, typically, when we get a honestly, it's it's mostly the same. Once once there's a a proposed bridge, then we we would model simulate multiple iterations to try and figure out what is the most effective, but also what is the least impactful.\n\nBecause I guess the part of the problem is when you're building a bridge is if you've built underbuilt it and it it becomes an obstruction, it means that if the increase is on private property, they could come back and say, look, you've you've made my land worse, and then you need to make sure that you've you're not obviously, there there's a case to be liable. So whatever we have to do is make sure that we are not making anyone any worse. Look. 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Hello? Hello? Can you hear me? Hi, Alex. This is Basanta from Milton City Council. How are you? Good. Good. I'm just returning your callback. You left me a voice message, I think, a few days ago. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah. Sorry. Like, I've been bit I'm cut out. So I was meaning to give you a callback, but thanks, Justin. Yeah. Yep. So, Alex, you want to discuss anything? Yeah. No. No. I got it. So, Alex, but can you just explain in a brief what kind of service you can provide? Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot. You do. Yeah. Yep. Okay. That's good to know. Like, I'm so, like, you know, we we are in Milton. In Milton, flooding is not that much of an issue apart from some localized aspect. But what I'm interested is on the hydraulic analysis and the hydraulic designs of the bridges. So I guess as the maintenance is growing, we are building lots of bridges, both vehicular and pedestrian ones. So, like, I just want like, what I'm wanting to know, like, just before we even start the actual design, just wanted to see the hydrologic analysis done and the hydraulic design is done. See, I mean, how the to, like, determine the guess the location of the bridge appropriate location of the bridge, what the span would be, how many piers would be required, and those kind of stuff. So is that something you can do? Like, that's it. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And do you again I guess when you do this kind of design, do you again also deal with Melbourne Water to get there, like, as I guess, some free development advice, like, what kind of treatment they would prefer in that particular location and then those kind of, like, the early coordination, do you do also do that? Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. And then let's say so in Milton, we're not building, like, too many bridges each year. So it it might be just one or two motorable bridge and two or three pedestrian bridge depending upon or it might be less than that as well depending upon how every year's budget is approved. But but let's say we're talking about a pedestrian bridge being constructed. So, like, and if I want to get someone to, like, would like you to do the hydrologic analysis and hydraulic design for a bridge, and let's assume that it's gonna be a multi span bridge. For example, let's say there'll be one or two PS within. So, like, how long do you reckon it will take from the engagement until the design is done? Like, how long it will take? Four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks? Yeah. Okay. Yep. Okay. That's good. Are there any, like, previous projects of the similar nature you've done? Like yeah. Yep. Okay. Okay. That's really good. Like, it's it's not yeah. No. No. Like, sorry. Do you you go ahead. What are you saying? That would have been really I guess, challenging project. Like, That's a very good idea. Like, because of some of the consultants, like, when we go out, they will just do whatever the minimum was there. And then they did, like, sometimes it's not on the value proposition. Like, they're not they're just doing what was done. And because we're not expert on things, sometimes we don't even know what is required, and that can be challenged. So yes. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. I think lots of time what we've faced is sometimes the design comes, everything's with done, detailed design's done, but then we don't get approval or approval takes a long time and then it delays our delivery schedule and everything. So what we're planning to do is avoid that. So we had proper planning, proper concept design that's gonna be if we know that's gonna be approved by authorities, for example, like Melbourne Water. And then we develop it so that there are minimal delays to the project itself. Yeah. That's what we are trying to do. Yeah. It's good to know that you provide that service. Maybe, I guess, if you can send me an email and maybe just attach some of the you have a browser or something like that of your forms or what you do. Yeah. So my address is Prasanta,yes,@Melton.zig.gov.au. Yep. B for Bob. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's just s. Yes. Dot pick dot gov dot a. Yeah. Maybe if you have some sample projects you use, you can share sample drawings or whatever you've done there out. It's not meant to it's just something you just what you can share. Yeah. Of course. So yep. Yep. Yep. No worries. Thanks. Thanks, Alex. Thanks for the time. Yep. No worries, Alex. Thanks. You have a good day, Alex. See you. Bye. Thanks. You you too. Bye. 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Hello? Hello? Can you hear me? Hi, Alex.\n\nThis is Basanta from Milton City Council. How are you? Good. Good. I'm just returning your callback.\n\nYou left me a voice message, I think, a few days ago. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Good.\n\nGood. Yeah. Sorry. Like, I've been bit I'm cut out. So I was meaning to give you a callback, but thanks, Justin.\n\nYeah. Yep. So, Alex, you want to discuss anything? Yeah. No.\n\nNo. I got it. So, Alex, but can you just explain in a brief what kind of service you can provide? Yeah. Yeah.\n\nThat's a lot. You do. Yeah. Yep. Okay.\n\nThat's good to know. Like, I'm so, like, you know, we we are in Milton. In Milton, flooding is not that much of an issue apart from some localized aspect. But what I'm interested is on the hydraulic analysis and the hydraulic designs of the bridges. 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Hello? Hello? Can\n\nChannel 0: Hello.\n\nChannel 1: you hear\n\nChannel 0: This\n\nChannel 1: me?\n\nChannel 0: is Valerie. Can I speak with a phone call?\n\nChannel 1: Hi, Alex. This is Basanta from Milton City Council. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Good. Thank you. How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Good. Good. I'm just returning your callback. You left me a voice message, I think, a few days\n\nChannel 0: Oh, I'm\n\nChannel 1: ago.\n\nChannel 0: so\n\nChannel 1: Sorry.\n\nChannel 0: sorry. Yes. Thank you for returning my phone call. I'm so sorry. Sorry.\n\nI'm I'm hit start of the week. But, yeah, I'm I'm blaming on\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that. How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah. Sorry.\n\nLike, I've been bit I'm cut out. So I was meaning to give you a callback, but thanks, Justin. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Don't worry about look. I know.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: We're at the end of financial year. I I probably should've I should've waited until after so that we had a bit more time. So I completely appreciate that.\n\nChannel 1: So, Alex, you want to discuss anything? Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So I I we we spoke on we spoke on LinkedIn a a while ago, and, yeah, you mentioned that you need that you were you some that you needed flood assessments from time to time, sometimes like riverine or, sorry, bridges or what have you. And I I just I on LinkedIn, I find a really difficult way to talk to people. So I I just was hoping, I guess, to to speak to you and and to, yeah, I understand how or what we can do to see if we can help you, I guess, is why I was calling. I I've I've thankfully worked with a few councils, and I used to work with the flood sorry.\n\nCMA, Cashment Management Authority throughout Australia sorry. Throughout Victoria. And so, yeah, I've been really fortunate to work with government people. I've worked in that industry for some time, and I guess I I was hoping to, yeah, see see if if there's some way that maybe we could meet up or talk or or I guess understand how I can help or if yeah. I guess that's probably what I'm trying to say.\n\nChannel 1: No. No. I got it. So, Alex, but can you just explain in a brief what kind of service you can provide?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So I we do a lot of flood assessment. So I I do reef so hydrology, hydraulics.\n\nSo if, if there's a new bridge or if there's a new culvert or whatever it is, we can do the sizing of that culvert and then check the impacts based on that culvert.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: We also do a large flood study, so, like, rivers, creeks, what have you. And and to we most of the time, we do a lot of, sorry, flood impact assessment for residential. We've also done flood impact assessments for council for when there's been illegal works.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So for example, there's in North Central's region in Bendigo, there were a few sorry. In Castle Main. Sorry. Forgive me. In Castle Main, there were a few people who built put a lot of fill on their property, and the CMA wanted to understand what the impacts were.\n\nAnd so we did a flood study for the creek and then showed them that their impact was quite significant. And so they took that and they went to VCAT with it and and and challenged the developer who put all that fill in. So we've done those things as well. We've done due diligence. So and just to check whether or not a proposal is going to actually work or not.\n\nWe've also done mitigation, like large mitigation schemes, levies, basins, what have you, just to to check whether or not they they're feasible, I guess, and also what what the impact is to the community. And then we've we've done flood response plans, so emergency response plans, risk management plans, and to to protect infrastructure. And then the last part of that, what we do is also statutory subcommons and also peer reviews. So at the moment, we're doing the Bar And Bay Creek peer review for Bal sorry, for Ballarat City Council, City of Ballarat. But a couple months ago sorry.\n\nLast month, I was working for the Glenel Cochrane's Catch Up Management Authority, which is essentially the CMA of, well, Warrnambool, and we're doing reviews and checks for their models as well.\n\nChannel 1: That's a lot. You do.\n\nChannel 0: It's a lot yeah. Anything\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: to do with reef sorry. Water flowing. I've tried to\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: we've we've we've tried to step into look. We're we're a team. There's only three of us. So it's not we're we're any we're not my my goal is not to have hundreds of clients. 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In Milton, flooding is not that much of an issue apart from some localized aspect. But what I'm interested is on the hydraulic analysis and the hydraulic designs of the bridges.\n\nSo I guess as the maintenance is growing, we are building lots of bridges,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: both vehicular and pedestrian ones. So, like, I just want like, what I'm wanting to know, like, just before we even start the actual design, just wanted to see the hydrologic analysis done and the hydraulic design is done. See, I mean, how the to, like, determine the guess the location of the bridge appropriate location of the bridge, what the span would be, how many piers would be required, and those kind of stuff. So\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: is that something you can do? Like,\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: that's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: we would we could build sorry. We'd figure out how much water is coming through.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So depending on how you're assessing it, so you might have well, at the moment, most government are moving to catch sorry, to climate change. So we would assess the riverine climate change for typically SSP three, get the flow coming through for the 1%. If if it's if it's meant to be a primary access, if it's just a smaller road, then we can just model the typical water sorry, the\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: typical flow rate. And then what we would do is we'd we'd develop a concept. So we'd say, okay. We're gonna put in four piers, and these are the these are the spacing between them. We'd be able to model run the model and then see how much flow could get through, if that's gonna impact private property, if that's going to and then we can say, okay.\n\nThis is what velocity is coming through. It means you're gonna need to put these these sized\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: the the size brick sorry, brick. What am I talking about? Rocks, rip wrap, whatever\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: you need that to to protect it. So make sure that we've got the strength to batter it so it doesn't, you know, erode away. So, yeah, that's certainly something we do a bit of.\n\nChannel 1: And do you again I guess when you do this kind of design, do you again also deal with Melbourne Water to get there, like, as I guess, some free development advice, like, what kind of treatment they would prefer in that particular location and then those kind of, like, the early coordination, do you do\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: also do that? Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So we we\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: would we would do it all. So we we if you if you, for example, say we're gonna we're thinking of build build this bridge here, we'd first approach Melbourne Water to make sure that we've got everything that they need,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: then we would be able to design it based on their requirements, but also based on what you need as well. Look. The way that I like to work, honestly, is is I I wanna make sure that what we're doing\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: is going to get accepted. So\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I I would always check with everyone to make sure that we're all happy before we progress to the next stage. So we we have our own designers as well, so we can do the detailed if you need. But, typically, the way that I like to do it is first the first stage is data collection, making sure that we've got all the information that we need to get this approved.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And that's including, like, for example, if you're proposing a lot of new bridges, if the bridge is gonna be for just general traffic and it's not a a primary access route, then we don't need to necessarily build it so that it's going to be safe during a large flood event. But then if it's a bridge that's going to be the only access for hundreds of people, then we know that we have to build it above a flood level. We need to make sure that it's safe. So we like to try to stage our developments by data collection, testing, and then concepts.\n\nChannel 1: And then let's say so in Milton, we're not building, like, too many bridges each year. So it it might be just one or two motorable bridge and two or three pedestrian bridge depending upon or it might be less than that as well depending\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: upon how every year's budget is approved. But but let's say we're talking about a pedestrian bridge being constructed. So, like, and if I want to get someone to, like, would like you to do the hydrologic analysis and hydraulic design for a bridge, and let's assume that it's gonna be a multi span bridge. For example, let's say there'll be one or two PS within. So, like, how long do you reckon it will take from the engagement until the design is done?\n\nLike, how long it will take?\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: Four\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: weeks, six\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: weeks, eight weeks?\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Look. I would say, Paul.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So the the longest time we'll be waiting for Melbourne Water to confirm what they want because they they Melbourne Water can take just to respond as I'm sure you know. But for our assessment, we'd be able to do at least the concept of flow within within a month. We because we're a small team and we only do specific, we're we're very quick with the way that we do it.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And the way that I want to work, I guess, is I I wanna have I I I wanna have a few like I said, a few key people. So if you, for example, said, look. I need it in this many days. This is how much I've got for it. Can you do it?\n\nThat's how I wanna be able to say, yep. Let's do it. We can do that.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. That's good. Are there any, like, previous projects of the similar nature you've done?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So the I guess one of the biggest ones, there's so in Geelong, Geelong\n\nChannel 1: Like\n\nChannel 0: Port, the\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Tasmanian the the the spirit of Tasmania, we designed we helped design the level for which the boat came in. And so we had to also simulate all the bridges throughout that area. And so in order to figure out how we could get the level up, we had to make sure that those bridges were all safe with the water coming through. And so we we modeled multiple iterations in order to figure out how we can get to that to the level that we needed to do. So that was one of them.\n\nThat was probably the biggest. That was a really complex job because we also had to do sea level rise. But we've also done recently most recently, there was a renewable development out in Victoria regional Victoria where their access was completely blocked, and they needed to build a bridge. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: they we\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: had to design the bridge based on what how how they actually got out of their renewable development. Thankfully, they didn't need to be above the 1% because the development you didn't need to always be in there. So we also wrote a flood response plan, which basically said if the flood's at this level, you can't access the site. But we also made\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: sure that that bridge didn't impact anyone. So we we I like to work as like a, I guess, a full scope. So instead of just saying, oh, yeah, it works. I wanna make sure that, yes, it works, but does it is it fits the purpose? And so that that's, I guess, how we try to manage it.\n\nChannel 1: That's really good.\n\nChannel 0: But\n\nChannel 1: Like,\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: it's\n\nChannel 0: It\n\nChannel 1: it's not yeah.\n\nChannel 0: oh, sorry.\n\nChannel 1: No. No. Like, sorry. Do you you go ahead.\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: What are you saying?\n\nChannel 0: I was gonna say we've we've done yeah. I've done hundreds of bridges throughout Australia, honestly. I've I've done which which one up north? I did one in Queensland for a there was a there's a a walk in the forest, I think it might be called. Anyway, they essentially, they they were proposing a walk bridge across a creek in a national park.\n\nAnd so we had to figure out how the spacing between the the railing, so not even the underneath. There was actually the railing between it to make sure that doesn't capture too much water. So there was that was quite complex. That was actually quite a difficult job, but, yeah, the idea was that they couldn't build above the flood level. It wasn't possible.\n\nSo they needed to make sure that their design was had enough spacing in between. So and that was safe enough for people to cross, but also safe enough for the water to largely go through it.\n\nChannel 1: That would have been really I guess, challenging project. Like,\n\nChannel 0: So it was it was it took a while. That was just Parks Australia if Parks Australia or Parks Queensland or whatever it was. That was that was a really fun one. But, yeah, typically, when we get a honestly, it's it's mostly the same. Once once there's a a proposed bridge, then we we would model simulate multiple iterations to try and figure out what is the most effective, but also what is the least impactful.\n\nBecause I guess the part of the problem is when you're building a bridge is if you've built underbuilt it and it it becomes an obstruction, it means that if the increase is on private property, they could come back and say, look, you've you've made my land worse, and then you need to make sure that you've you're not obviously, there there's a case to be liable. So whatever we have to do is make sure that we are not making anyone any worse. Look. The easiest way to do that is to build a like for like. But if you haven't got the bridge there, then you can't can't, I guess, can't do that.\n\nSo, yeah, it's it's it's a fun space because it's not just I mean, we we do it up to concept. We can also do design, but we we we like to make sure that whatever we're proposing, you know, I guess, is is fit for purpose, what you actually need. And so I guess the way that I'd like to work is by scoping it out with you more, and you can say this is what we need, and then we can, well, I guess, work together and figure out how we can achieve that.\n\nChannel 1: That's a very good idea. Like, because of some of the consultants, like, when we go out, they will just do whatever the minimum was there. And then they did, like, sometimes it's not on the value proposition. Like, they're\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: not they're just doing what was done. And because we're not expert on things, sometimes we don't even know what is required, and that can be challenged. So yes.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: Oh, you know, that that's\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: a classic.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Honestly, that was part of the reason why I started my own business. I I hated the fact that a lot of the time it was, let's just this is what they've asked for. We're just gonna do that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And and instead of actually giving guidance or consulting, which is what you meant to do, it's just, okay. Yep. No. That's enough. That's fine.\n\nSend it off. And then knowing that you're not gonna get an approval, I I just I'm like I said, it made it made me feel a little bit sick. I didn't like it. So I I much\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: prefer to if I'm submitting something, I want it to be constructible. I want it to be fit for purpose, and I also want it to be approvable. So and I think people get confused, especially if they haven't worked in government. I know that a lot of consultants get confused or they just don't care, but the difference between constructible and approvable is very different. You can construct them you can structure them anything.\n\nYes. It will cost a long a lot a lot of money, but you can construct it. Well, is it approvable? That's not a\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: lot of them don't really know that part of it, which, yeah, is a I've seen that problem a fair bit.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. I think lots of time what we've faced is sometimes the design comes, everything's with done, detailed design's done, but then\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: we don't get approval or approval takes a long time and then it delays our delivery schedule and everything.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: So what we're planning to do is avoid that. So we had proper planning, proper concept design that's gonna be if we know that's gonna be approved by authorities, for example, like Melbourne Water. And then we develop it so that there are minimal delays to the project itself.\n\nChannel 0: That's right.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: what we are trying to do. Yeah. It's good to know that you provide that service. Maybe, I guess, if you can send me an email and maybe just attach some of the you have a browser or something like that of your forms\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: or\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: what\n\nChannel 0: I do.\n\nChannel 1: you do.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I'm I I what was your I don't think I have your email.\n\nChannel 1: So my address is Prasanta,yes,@Melton.zig.gov.au.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Alright. Sorry. Let me just Nelson dot com. Oh, sorry.\n\nCan I put I'm just gonna put down the? Forget. Alright. Here we go. Mhmm.\n\nGreat. The sun to s b a s a n t a?\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. B a santa\n\nChannel 1: B for Bob.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: A v s\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: no. Just\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: just s. Yep. A z\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: at\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: melton.\n\nChannel 1: s. Yes. Dot pick dot gov dot a.\n\nChannel 0: Dot com dot a u. Easy. Perfect. Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So would you like anything else? Sorry. A capability statement. Is that all you'd like, or would you like anything else?\n\nChannel 1: Maybe if you have some sample projects you use, you can\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: share sample drawings or whatever you've done there out.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: It's not\n\nChannel 0: Done.\n\nChannel 1: meant to it's just something you just what you can share. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Of course.\n\nChannel 0: Easy.\n\nChannel 1: So yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. Alright. I will send that through to you today.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. No worries. Thanks.\n\nChannel 0: Thanks\n\nChannel 1: Thanks,\n\nChannel 0: so\n\nChannel 1: Alex.\n\nChannel 0: much, miss Santo. Thanks so much for calling. I really appreciate\n\nChannel 1: Thanks\n\nChannel 0: it. Thanks\n\nChannel 1: for the\n\nChannel 0: for\n\nChannel 1: time.\n\nChannel 0: calling me back.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. No worries, Alex. Thanks. You have a\n\nChannel 0: See\n\nChannel 1: good day,\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: Alex.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. You too.\n\nChannel 1: See\n\nChannel 0: Thank\n\nChannel 1: you.\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: Bye.\n\nChannel 0: Bye.\n\nChannel 1: Thanks. You you too. Bye. 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So and that was safe enough for people to cross, but also safe enough for the water to largely go through it.","start_word":2433,"end_word":2469,"intents":[{"intent":"Design","confidence_score":0.10442349}]},{"text":"Once once there's a a proposed bridge, then we we would model simulate multiple iterations to try and figure out what is the most effective, but also what is the least impactful.","start_word":2525,"end_word":2556,"intents":[{"intent":"Design bridge","confidence_score":0.020252824}]},{"text":"So, yeah, it's it's it's a fun space because it's not just I mean, we we do it up to concept. We can also do design, but we we we like to make sure that whatever we're proposing, you know, I guess, is is fit for purpose, what you actually need.","start_word":2673,"end_word":2723,"intents":[{"intent":"Create space","confidence_score":0.0015270672}]},{"text":"And so I guess the way that I'd like to work is by scoping it out with you more, and you can say this is what we need, and then we can, well, I guess, work together and figure out how we can achieve that.","start_word":2725,"end_word":2769,"intents":[{"intent":"Plan work","confidence_score":0.0002040524}]},{"text":"A capability statement. Is that all you'd like, or would you like anything else?","start_word":3335,"end_word":3348,"intents":[{"intent":"Discuss functionality and app requirements","confidence_score":3.889424e-10}]}]},"sentiments":{"segments":[{"text":"And how may I help you? Hello? Hello? Hello? Can Hello. you hear This me? is Valerie. Can I speak with a phone call? Hi, Alex. This is Basanta from Milton City Council. How are you?","start_word":0,"end_word":35,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07197382301092148},{"text":"Good. Thank you.","start_word":36,"end_word":38,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5407179594039917},{"text":"How are you?","start_word":39,"end_word":41,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.30972322821617126},{"text":"Good. Good.","start_word":42,"end_word":43,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3798131048679352},{"text":"I'm just returning your callback. You left me a voice message, I think, a few days Oh, I'm ago. so Sorry. sorry. Yes. Thank you for returning my phone call. I'm so sorry. Sorry. I'm I'm hit start of the week. But, yeah, I'm I'm blaming on Yeah. that. How are you going? Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah. Sorry. Like, I've been bit I'm cut out. So I was meaning to give you a callback, but thanks, Justin. Yeah. Don't worry about look. I know. Yep. We're at the end of financial year. I I probably should've I should've waited until after so that we had a bit more time.","start_word":44,"end_word":152,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.034412745386362076},{"text":"So I completely appreciate that.","start_word":153,"end_word":157,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5557928085327148},{"text":"So, Alex, you want to discuss anything? Yeah. Yeah. So I I we we spoke on we spoke on LinkedIn a a while ago, and, yeah, you mentioned that you need that you were you some that you needed flood assessments from time to time, sometimes like riverine or, sorry, bridges or what have you. And I I just I on LinkedIn, I find a really difficult way to talk to people. So I I just was hoping, I guess, to to speak to you and and to, yeah, I understand how or what we can do to see if we can help you, I guess, is why I was calling. I I've I've thankfully worked with a few councils, and I used to work with the flood sorry. CMA, Cashment Management Authority throughout Australia sorry. Throughout Victoria.","start_word":158,"end_word":295,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06307102739810944},{"text":"And so, yeah, I've been really fortunate to work with government people.","start_word":296,"end_word":307,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5400523543357849},{"text":"I've worked in that industry for some time, and I guess I I was hoping to, yeah, see see if if there's some way that maybe we could meet up or talk or or I guess understand how I can help or if yeah. I guess that's probably what I'm trying to say. No. No. I got it. So, Alex, but can you just explain in a brief what kind of service you can provide? Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So I we do a lot of flood assessment. So I I do reef so hydrology, hydraulics. So if, if there's a new bridge or if there's a new culvert or whatever it is, we can do the sizing of that culvert and then check the impacts based on that culvert. Yeah. We also do a large flood study, so, like, rivers, creeks, what have you. And and to we most of the time, we do a lot of, sorry, flood impact assessment for residential. We've also done flood impact assessments for council for when there's been illegal works. Yeah. So for example, there's in North Central's region in Bendigo, there were a few sorry. In Castle Main. Sorry. Forgive me. In Castle Main, there were a few people who built put a lot of fill on their property, and the CMA wanted to understand what the impacts were. And so we did a flood study for the creek and then showed them that their impact was quite significant. And so they took that and they went to VCAT with it and and and challenged the developer who put all that fill in. So we've done those things as well. We've done due diligence. So and just to check whether or not a proposal is going to actually work or not. We've also done mitigation, like large mitigation schemes, levies, basins, what have you, just to to check whether or not they they're feasible, I guess, and also what what the impact is to the community. And then we've we've done flood response plans, so emergency response plans, risk management plans, and to to protect infrastructure. And then the last part of that, what we do is also statutory subcommons and also peer reviews. So at the moment, we're doing the Bar And Bay Creek peer review for Bal sorry, for Ballarat City Council, City of Ballarat. But a couple months ago sorry. Last month, I was working for the Glenel Cochrane's Catch Up Management Authority, which is essentially the CMA of, well, Warrnambool, and we're doing reviews and checks for their models as well. That's a lot. You do. It's a lot yeah. Anything Yeah. to do with reef sorry. Water flowing. I've tried to Yep. we've we've we've tried to step into look. We're we're a team. There's only three of us. So it's not we're we're any we're not my my goal is not to have hundreds of clients.","start_word":308,"end_word":797,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0887286273800597},{"text":"My goal is to have a couple that I really enjoy working with. And, thankfully, my the catchment management authority are are some of those. I I I love working with their government, their their regional government, obviously, like Melbourne Water.","start_word":798,"end_word":838,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6176251173019409},{"text":"So at the moment, I'm I'm not sure if you saw, but Melbourne Water released new guidelines on flood impacts. We we co wrote those. So, yeah, we're we're quite unique in the fact that we have both worked in government and in private consultant. So we kinda know what should be built, what should be what's what's acceptable based on the planning scheme and also the water act and all those kind of things. And, like, I I I I used to go on compliance assessments for the CMA when I worked at the CMA. So, yeah, we anything to do with flooding, riverine, whatever, or, like, a local and flow, we we can help. Okay.","start_word":839,"end_word":955,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.16161808371543884},{"text":"That's good to know.","start_word":956,"end_word":959,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4181014001369476},{"text":"Like, I'm so, like, you know, we we are in Milton. In Milton, flooding is not that much of an issue apart from some localized aspect. But what I'm interested is on the hydraulic analysis and the hydraulic designs of the bridges. So I guess as the maintenance is growing, we are building lots of bridges, Yes. both vehicular and pedestrian ones. So, like, I just want like, what I'm wanting to know, like, just before we even start the actual design, just wanted to see the hydrologic analysis done and the hydraulic design is done. See, I mean, how the to, like, determine the guess the location of the bridge appropriate location of the bridge, what the span would be, how many piers would be required, and those kind of stuff. So Yes. Yes. is that something you can do? Like, Absolutely. that's Yeah. it. So Yep. we would we could build sorry. We'd figure out how much water is coming through. Yep. So depending on how you're assessing it, so you might have well, at the moment, most government are moving to catch sorry, to climate change. So we would assess the riverine climate change for typically SSP three, get the flow coming through for the 1%. If if it's if it's meant to be a primary access, if it's just a smaller road, then we can just model the typical water sorry, the Yeah. typical flow rate. And then what we would do is we'd we'd develop a concept. So we'd say, okay. We're gonna put in four piers, and these are the these are the spacing between them. We'd be able to model run the model and then see how much flow could get through, if that's gonna impact private property, if that's going to and then we can say, okay. This is what velocity is coming through. It means you're gonna need to put these these sized Yep. the the size brick sorry, brick. What am I talking about? Rocks, rip wrap, whatever Yep. you need that to to protect it. So make sure that we've got the strength to batter it so it doesn't, you know, erode away. So, yeah, that's certainly something we do a bit of. And do you again I guess when you do this kind of design, do you again also deal with Melbourne Water to get there, like, as I guess, some free development advice, like, what kind of treatment they would prefer in that particular location and then those kind of, like, the early coordination, do you do Absolutely. also do that? Okay. Yeah. So we we Yep. would we would do it all. So we we if you if you, for example, say we're gonna we're thinking of build build this bridge here, we'd first approach Melbourne Water to make sure that we've got everything that they need, Yep. and Yep. then we would be able to design it based on their requirements, but also based on what you need as well. Look.","start_word":960,"end_word":1465,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06900473130432513},{"text":"The way that I like to work, honestly, is is I I wanna make sure that what we're doing Yep. is going to get accepted. So Yeah. I I would always check with everyone to make sure that we're all happy before we progress to the next stage.","start_word":1466,"end_word":1513,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4499211609363556},{"text":"So we we have our own designers as well, so we can do the detailed if you need. But, typically, the way that I like to do it is first the first stage is data collection, making sure that we've got all the information that we need to get this approved. Yep. And that's including, like, for example, if you're proposing a lot of new bridges, if the bridge is gonna be for just general traffic and it's not a a primary access route, then we don't need to necessarily build it so that it's going to be safe during a large flood event. But then if it's a bridge that's going to be the only access for hundreds of people, then we know that we have to build it above a flood level. We need to make sure that it's safe. So we like to try to stage our developments by data collection, testing, and then concepts. And then let's say so in Milton, we're not building, like, too many bridges each year. So it it might be just one or two motorable bridge and two or three pedestrian bridge depending upon or it might be less than that as well depending Yes. upon how every year's budget is approved. But but let's say we're talking about a pedestrian bridge being constructed. So, like, and if I want to get someone to, like, would like you to do the hydrologic analysis and hydraulic design for a bridge, and let's assume that it's gonna be a multi span bridge. For example, let's say there'll be one or two PS within. So, like, how long do you reckon it will take from the engagement until the design is done? Like, how long it will take? Well, Four it weeks, six it weeks, eight weeks? yeah. Look. I would say, Paul. Yeah. So the the longest time we'll be waiting for Melbourne Water to confirm what they want because they they Melbourne Water can take just to respond as I'm sure you know. But for our assessment, we'd be able to do at least the concept of flow within within a month. We because we're a small team and we only do specific, we're we're very quick with the way that we do it. Okay. Yep. And the way that I want to work, I guess, is I I wanna have I I I wanna have a few like I said, a few key people. So if you, for example, said, look. I need it in this many days. This is how much I've got for it. Can you do it? That's how I wanna be able to say, yep. Let's do it. We can do that.","start_word":1514,"end_word":1968,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1175714448421866},{"text":"Okay. That's good.","start_word":1969,"end_word":1971,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.49810126423835754},{"text":"Are there any, like, previous projects of the similar nature you've done? Yeah. So the I guess one of the biggest ones, there's so in Geelong, Geelong Like Port, the yeah. Tasmanian the the the spirit of Tasmania, we designed we helped design the level for which the boat came in. And so we had to also simulate all the bridges throughout that area. And so in order to figure out how we could get the level up, we had to make sure that those bridges were all safe with the water coming through. And so we we modeled multiple iterations in order to figure out how we can get to that to the level that we needed to do. So that was one of them. That was probably the biggest. That was a really complex job because we also had to do sea level rise. But we've also done recently most recently, there was a renewable development out in Victoria regional Victoria where their access was completely blocked, and they needed to build a bridge. So Yep. they we Okay. had to design the bridge based on what how how they actually got out of their renewable development. Thankfully, they didn't need to be above the 1% because the development you didn't need to always be in there. So we also wrote a flood response plan, which basically said if the flood's at this level, you can't access the site. But we also made Okay. sure that that bridge didn't impact anyone.","start_word":1972,"end_word":2224,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06944262544098108},{"text":"So we we I like to work as like a, I guess, a full scope. So instead of just saying, oh, yeah, it works. I wanna make sure that, yes, it works, but does it is it fits the purpose? And so that that's, I guess, how we try to manage it. That's really good.","start_word":2225,"end_word":2279,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.39936524629592896},{"text":"But Like, yeah. it's It it's not yeah. oh, sorry. No. No. Like, sorry. Do you you go ahead. Oh, What are you saying? I was gonna say we've we've done yeah. I've done hundreds of bridges throughout Australia, honestly. I've I've done which which one up north? I did one in Queensland for a there was a there's a a walk in the forest, I think it might be called. Anyway, they essentially, they they were proposing a walk bridge across a creek in a national park. And so we had to figure out how the spacing between the the railing, so not even the underneath. There was actually the railing between it to make sure that doesn't capture too much water. So there was that was quite complex.","start_word":2280,"end_word":2409,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0008630238473415375},{"text":"That was actually quite a difficult job, but, yeah, the idea was that they couldn't build above the flood level. It wasn't possible.","start_word":2410,"end_word":2432,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.36624276638031006},{"text":"So they needed to make sure that their design was had enough spacing in between. 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But if you haven't got the bridge there, then you can't can't, I guess, can't do that.","start_word":2642,"end_word":2672,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.12793055176734924},{"text":"So, yeah, it's it's it's a fun space because it's not just I mean, we we do it up to concept.","start_word":2673,"end_word":2693,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.417603075504303},{"text":"We can also do design, but we we we like to make sure that whatever we're proposing, you know, I guess, is is fit for purpose, what you actually need. And so I guess the way that I'd like to work is by scoping it out with you more, and you can say this is what we need, and then we can, well, I guess, work together and figure out how we can achieve that.","start_word":2694,"end_word":2768,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2594951868057251},{"text":"That's a very good idea.","start_word":2769,"end_word":2773,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.8356892466545105},{"text":"Like, because of some of the consultants, like, when we go out, they will just do whatever the minimum was there. And then they did, like, sometimes it's not on the value proposition. Like, they're Yes. not they're just doing what was done. And because we're not expert on things, sometimes we don't even know what is required, and that can be challenged. So yes. Yes.","start_word":2774,"end_word":2839,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09850499778985976},{"text":"That's Oh, you know, that that's good. a classic.","start_word":2840,"end_word":2848,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.49398714303970337},{"text":"Yeah. Honestly, that was part of the reason why I started my own business. I I hated the fact that a lot of the time it was, let's just this is what they've asked for. We're just gonna do that. Yeah. And and instead of actually giving guidance or consulting, which is what you meant to do, it's just, okay. Yep. No. That's enough. That's fine. Send it off.","start_word":2849,"end_word":2917,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1077807992696762},{"text":"And then knowing that you're not gonna get an approval, I I just I'm like I said, it made it made me feel a little bit sick. I didn't like it.","start_word":2918,"end_word":2948,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4117150902748108},{"text":"So I I much Yep. prefer to if I'm submitting something, I want it to be constructible. I want it to be fit for purpose, and I also want it to be approvable. So and I think people get confused, especially if they haven't worked in government. I know that a lot of consultants get confused or they just don't care, but the difference between constructible and approvable is very different. You can construct them you can structure them anything. Yes. It will cost a long a lot a lot of money, but you can construct it. Well, is it approvable? That's not a Yep. lot of them don't really know that part of it, which, yeah, is a I've seen that problem a fair bit. Yep. I think lots of time what we've faced is sometimes the design comes, everything's with done, detailed design's done, but then Yep.","start_word":2949,"end_word":3097,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.057529279537148925},{"text":"we don't get approval or approval takes a long time and then it delays our delivery schedule and everything.","start_word":3098,"end_word":3116,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3357677161693573},{"text":"Yes. So what we're planning to do is avoid that. So we had proper planning, proper concept design that's gonna be if we know that's gonna be approved by authorities, for example, like Melbourne Water. And then we develop it so that there are minimal delays to the project itself. That's right. Yeah. That's Yep. what we are trying to do.","start_word":3117,"end_word":3177,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1007288545370102},{"text":"Yeah. It's good to know that you provide that service.","start_word":3178,"end_word":3187,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6096317768096924},{"text":"Maybe, I guess, if you can send me an email and maybe just attach some of the you have a browser or something like that of your forms Yeah. or Yeah. what I do. you do. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I I what was your I don't think I have your email. So my address is Prasanta,yes,@Melton.zig.gov.au. Okay. Alright. Sorry. Let me just Nelson dot com. Oh, sorry. Can I put I'm just gonna put down the? Forget. Alright. Here we go. Mhmm. Great. The sun to s b a s a n t a? Yep. Perfect. B a santa B for Bob. yeah. Yep. A v s Yep. no. Just Yep. just s. Yep. A z It's at just melton. s. Yes. Dot pick dot gov dot a. Dot com dot a u. Easy.","start_word":3188,"end_word":3324,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05025497451424599},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":3325,"end_word":3325,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4270869791507721},{"text":"Alright. Yeah. So would you like anything else? Sorry. A capability statement. Is that all you'd like, or would you like anything else? Maybe if you have some sample projects you use, you can Okay. share sample drawings or whatever you've done there out. Yeah. It's not Done. meant to it's just something you just what you can share. Yeah. Yep. Of course. Easy. So yep. Yep.","start_word":3326,"end_word":3392,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06287010820276702},{"text":"Perfect. Alright. I will send that through to you today.","start_word":3393,"end_word":3402,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.41965898871421814},{"text":"Yep. No worries.","start_word":3403,"end_word":3405,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22047089040279388},{"text":"Thanks. Thanks Thanks, so Alex. much, miss Santo. Thanks so much for calling. I really appreciate Thanks it. Thanks for the for time. calling me back.","start_word":3406,"end_word":3431,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6562995910644531},{"text":"Yep. No worries, Alex.","start_word":3432,"end_word":3435,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25086289644241333},{"text":"Thanks. You have a See good day, you.","start_word":3436,"end_word":3443,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5524453520774841},{"text":"Alex. Yeah. You too.","start_word":3444,"end_word":3447,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25064536929130554},{"text":"See Thank you.","start_word":3448,"end_word":3450,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.41747015714645386},{"text":"you. Bye. Bye.","start_word":3451,"end_word":3453,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2582170069217682},{"text":"Thanks. You you too.","start_word":3454,"end_word":3457,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4730722904205322},{"text":"Bye. Bye.","start_word":3458,"end_word":3459,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.20914606750011444}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.077051025390625}}}}