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I understand that juggle. Yeah. Good hands. Useful. That's okay. Hi, Helen. How are you? Oh, that must be devastating for you. How's your recovery going, though? Yeah. May I ask and, Paul, you don't have to answer if Helen can. What what kind of surgery like, mouth surgery, I understand, but what kind of surgery was it? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, you have a beautiful smile in no time. Beautiful. Oh, it's it's been a day, my darlings. It has been a day, but otherwise, I'm okay. Of course. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. Got you. Absolutely. I need the letter, if that's possible. Yep. Perfect. Yep. That was gonna be my next my next question was what is the deadline I've given you? Because, obviously, it's gonna be different to what the it says on the letter. Okay. So if you send it to me to tonight, I will have a look at it tonight and tomorrow, and I will give you a call tomorrow. We'll respond to you in email form by tomorrow with with an an answer. Yeah. Basically, yes. It's gonna come from one point stream or another, but it depends on specifically the scheme that you have set up. It depends on the regulatory body they're talking about and what they are referencing that ceased on the specific date. That's what I want to, like, I guess, not out wording wise what they've stated because that'll indicate to me whether your pension scheme is going to affect any benefits here or whether it won't affect any benefits here. That's okay. No. Yeah. That's fair. And your question rounding that account? Yep. Mhmm. Mhmm. Cool. Absolutely. Yeah. So let's we can definitely note that out. I just wanna I guess, before we jump into it too too heavily, can I confirm with you guys when our retirement is still on track for? Have Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Correct. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. If we if we sell it while we're working, the capital gains becomes too much. But if we sell it once we're retired, we're in a much better financial position. And, yeah, we we had that we've we've had that conversation as well. And I I did a rough capital gains calculation for you guys, and and it just it it made no not that it made no sense. It just it made better sense to sort of hold on to it if we didn't have to sell it. Realistically speaking, if you were to retire today or semi retire today, you you're sitting pretty well. Like, you have $900,000 for Paul and $4.40 sitting for Helen. In terms of of income and and, I guess, draw downs on that yes. Sorry? No. Like, don't be wrong. There was a bit of a bounce. Don't don't get me wrong. Like, for your account, if you had have called me and asked me in March, I would have given you a shocking you were sitting at 08:38. Yeah. So, yeah, there was there was a little bit of a moment of, I guess, a bit of a bounce. But at the same time, your employer popped money into your account during that time. It bought assets at a smaller value. The market bounced back up. It's why I I generally tell my clients don't look at the account all the time because it becomes a scary exercise. But one second. Why is the computer not working? Come on. There we go. I am I am honestly having the most atrocious day, to be completely honest with you both. You are making my evening. That is definitely for sure. Thrown it. Yeah. Oh, it's it's it's been that tight. Yeah. I had I had the unfortunate well, fortunate business of waking up this morning, and my one of my puppies had passed away, unfortunately. So no. It's okay. He he I mean, he was old. He wasn't really a puppy, but yeah. So it's just been one of those glorious days that we do have have in our life. They are, and I have three beautiful young children at home. So makes it a little bit little bit harder to explain that, doesn't it? Anyway, so I guess income wise, the the the biggest question mark is gonna be whether realistically, it comes down to comfort at this point. If you want to fully retire, because we do have that property in Sydney that we can sell, and correct me if I'm wrong, we're sitting well over a million dollars on the value of that property. Fantastic. And the mortgage Perfect. Is is there still a is there a there's a little bit of a mortgage on that property still as well, isn't there? Yep. Yes. Yeah. So and the income that you have coming in from the property per week, have we increased that income at all or changed it? Okay. So $7.60. So it sounds I mean, if I'm literally just using brain math right this second, we're probably sitting a bit positively geared with yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So we might be sort of maybe a little bit neutrally, kind of, like, bearing. And that's just me kind of just quickly trying to do the math on what an interest only loan would be without actually using a calculator. It's now variable and it's interest and principal? Okay. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Right. Okay. So it's a principal and interest paying loan, 4 to $4.50 owing, and I'm assuming it's somewhere around the six to six and a half percent ish range. Yeah. Okay. No. That's okay. Alright. So, yeah, we probably sitting neutral ish. So, you know, it's a matter of whether we want to I mean, we could we could sell it. If we wanna pay it off and have, you know, it actually positively geared, that would work. I think realistically at this point to really not out, like, our retirement fully and be able to establish whether we sell that property soon ish or not And whether we look to pay it out completely, we probably need to look at doing a bit of a budget as to what we would need to live on, unless you guys have a solid figure. If you don't, that's okay. I can send you a bit of a budget plan that we can fill out to just plan a little bit, And that will give us an idea as to what we're gonna need for our retirement planning and whether, you know, whether we're gonna need that property as an income stream or whether we sell that property to pay out the debt and add to our capital to draw down on. Do the biggest question I have for you, and this really, I guess, scales where we're going with things, is do you wanna keep working? Okay. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Absolutely. So let's start planning in that methodology with that in mind that you are burnt out. And at the best, we definitely take a major step back. Well, at the worst, we take a major step back, and at the at the best, we fully retire right this second. Well, not right this second, but we retire with the intention to to sort of not go back to work at least foreseeably. And maybe maybe in the future when you're feeling a little bit more relaxed, maybe you step back in and do some contracting or whatever the case may be. But right now because I I know you've been doing your job for an extensive amount of time and and that you're very knowledgeable in what you do. So I'm assuming your your, I guess, trade is pretty transferable. You could step into something else. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And that is completely okay. Alright. So, Helen, where are you sitting with all of this? Are you wanting to hang up the boots? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. Definitely. Just just so we can get it right. Oh, trust me. That it's that that's what happens in my house too. My husband's a spender and I'm a saver. Always. Perfect. Yeah. That that's fair. Yeah. No. Okay. That's that's absolutely okay. So let's because it it's been basically, I was thinking about eight months since we've spoken anyway. So let's just let me just make sure that I've got, like that we're all up to date and accurate with everything before I send you the budget planner and we start running around. Goals wise, we still wanna have the mortgage paid off and we wanna travel around Australia with a car camper van or a little bit less so because our health needs to take a bit of a focus priority at the moment. Where are we sitting? Okay. I have to tell you, the Canning Stock Route is beautiful, and you should definitely add that to your bucket list. And then we wanna go fishing and travel Italy, Australia, and you wanna just take it slow. Perfect. We still have the caravan in Nudgee. Perfect. And do we know what the caravan's value is? Like, what it's worth? That's okay. Would we need a new caravan to do what we wanna do, or are we yeah. Fair. Okay. So new caravan. And those things can go for 50 to 100 to 200. So what kind of what kind of bracket are we looking at? A to a 100. Fantastic. Asset wise, where are we sitting with the property's value and loans left? You the the Sydney one, 1.4 in value and about 4 to $4.50 owing? Woman after my own heart. Cool. So Glenfield is the 1.4 value with $4.59. And then our p PPR, do you know what the rough value of the PPR is? Not that really yeah. Primary residence. One point four. Perfect. And then we have the Ampol shares. Do you know what the share agreement is with those shares? Do you have any specific buyout with them? If you cease working, they take them back. Okay. Yep. Okay. Perfect. Good. I was going to. Yes. Okay. Somewhere in that vicinity. No. That's okay. When I send an email through to you for with the budget planner, I'll get you to pop in this, like, the share the last share statement that you have from them. It'll be somewhere in the email. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Split the difference and we'll call it somewhere in the vicinity of 1.45. Other assets, motorbikes, boats perfect. Are we that sounds about right. Do we wanna keep the motorbikes? We wanna keep the two boats. Do we wanna okay. What what are the value of both of the motorbikes? What are the value of most of the boats? I'm assuming we're selling selling the 8,000? Cool. Yep. Yeah. Completely fair. If it's that kind of item, then, yeah, we could be looking at 100 hundreds. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Good price point. And I'm assuming we're are we selling the $10,000 one keeping the selected item? Okay. And then the cards, what are we driving at the moment? Fair. Yep. That's about ballpark. So I'm assuming we're getting rid of the not Ranger, the Nissan. Yep. Because the Ranger's gonna tow the caravan. Cool. So we can liquidate some of the assets, which will give us a cash injection for a little bit, which is good. Let's not obviously, we're not moving anything too too quickly, and and assets still take time to sell. So that's okay. Our home, we still wanna keep. That is correct. And I have I have that written in my notes that we didn't wanna sell the house. I just want to make sure that I'm not misinterpreting that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Alright. Okay. Alright. That's okay. Would we downsize a little bit with the intention of maybe being able to knock over the loss of the loan and buy another house with the proceeds? Okay. Alright. That's okay. Alright. So it's a possibility that we could probably, like, knock over the PPR loan with the with a little bit of a downsize, but nothing too drastic. We're we're not going to a unit. We wanna garden. We wanna still mow and frolic and enjoy the roses. Okay. Gives me a good scope just to make sure that I'm on the same page as you. Alright. So outside of that, the biggest thing we wanna do is we wanna make sure that we've got a good scope on what our costs are in relation to the upkeep of our home, in relation to what we're spending on groceries, what we're spending on fuel, all that kind of stuff. So I'll send through a budget. Put down what you're currently spending. I I will gross up or get rid of anything that's not relevant. Obviously, you're running two cars right now. Put both of the car registrations on there. I will obviously halve it based on the fact that we're gonna get rid of one car, we're gonna get rid of one bike, we're gonna get rid of one of the boats. Put all of those things down, and I will get rid of what is not relevant when we retire based on, you know, what you guys are willing to sell, whether we need to sell it or not. It's just giving us basically a scope of where things fit. It also gives me a good understanding, I guess, as to what we really need when we retire because there's always, I want a $100,000. Right? You know? I think I need $50,000 worth of an income. And then when you start writing down the figures, it really comes into fruition what you're actually spending and what is realistic based on the lifestyle that you currently live. And that's gonna give me the the true scope of what our draw downs look like, when we're gonna be able to access Centrelink if we're gonna be able to access Centrelink. Obviously, not right now when you have the investment property, but if we liquidate the investment property, what does that look like for us long term? And that's gonna give us a scale of that. If you are able to send through the tax return for last last financial year, it's fine for both of you. I know that we're 12 down the line, and as you said, the like, there's been a few changes to, you know, the increase in the investment property rent and stuff like that. It'll just give me a good basis for what the investment property was doing last financial year. So that way, I can have a look and see whether it's positively or negatively geared and make sure I'm including that in our budget. Because if we keep it and it's still positive, negative, neutral, whatever this position is on that property, we need to consider the expenses for you guys because that's you're not gonna have an income to be able to put into that property anymore. We're gonna need to basically draw down on whatever assets we have to make sure that we're upkeeping that property. If it if it's if it if it is positively geared, then we we're sitting pretty, but we need to make sure that we're sitting okay with that. The only other alternative if you don't wanna send me last financial years is we wait a couple of months till you do the financial years accounting, and you send me that. Yeah. Yeah. Velocity expenses to get everything fixed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so so go last financial year for four to four to five. Fine. Well, five to six hours. Yeah. Go go to last. Find it. Yep. That'll that's fine. It'll give me a good basis of everything. And as you said, it's $7.60 that you're getting paid per week, so I can just that's math. That's that's easy for me to do the math on that. And I can work out what your agent's being paid as a percentage and increase that based on the percentage of income. So I can work through all of those figures and work out that. What are you doing to me? Yeah. Fair. That's okay. Generally generally, the ages are pretty competitive within the same area. Like, if I if I turn around, I I would say that Queensland's average rental management fee is 7.5%. I know that because I've done a lot of rental properties in Queensland lately. I I could definitely look it up for New South Wales. That's easy enough, but I can I can base it on what your other real estate agent was charging? Oh, way cheaper. I love that. And that'll give me a good in a a a good understanding because I I know our incomes, you know, with Helen sitting sort of around 80 k and and you're sitting 6 figures. So I know that, like, income wise, that's what our incomes are, but we get rid of one of the cars, we get rid of the bike, we get rid of the the boat, that's gonna reduce our overhead tapes. And then it's a matter of, I guess, looking at everything else from there. If I was to ask, like, if we were to live the dream that we wanna live, how long would you guys spend traveling per year? Like, would it be three months out, three months home, three months out again? Yeah. Yep. No. Yeah. Just decent enough trips that you can go and see a decent amount, but you get to come home, rest your laurels, and and and reset. No. Do not apologize for the barking. That is okay. Absolutely okay. Cool. So yes? Perfect. No. That's okay. God. I love you guys. Perfect. I was like, I'll send you an email, and you're like, no. I've got it. I've sent it to you already. Perfect. Alright. Well, that's those things. I'll send you a budget. I think that's pretty much the everything that I can think of right now. No. Paul's I mean, it's it's semantics really, but Paul's hub twenty four account is connected to his work email address, which is paul@ampollsomethingsomething something, phobs@ampoll.com.hick.au. Do you want me to get that updated now to move to your personal email address? So that way, when we do get to the Yes. Perfect. Good. I believe because Caden sent them through. I believe that that has the the request for yeah. I'll I'll I'll change it in our system if it hasn't already, but I know that the hub twenty four account is connected to the work email address with which which I definitely need to make sure is is changed. That's okay. Outside of that, yeah, it's just it's just I guess the budget's gonna give me a really good understanding. Unless do you guys have, I guess, a ballpark figure that you think it's always fun kind of finding out this answer. Do you have a ballpark figure that you think is suitable to have as an income for you? No. That's fair. Yep. Correct. Then we start traveling and the fuel bill goes up. No. That's that's okay. It's it's always just kind of, I guess, a fun exercise. You know, do you know what you need? And then I start running running the figures and and using, like, the actual analytical data, and the numbers never add up. But it's always kind of fun to shock value. Yeah. Yeah. And and that's where the budget will come in in handy because it'll open up what the actual expenses are for the household a lot more for you both, Become a little bit more transparent. So I will email that to you tonight so you can go and fill everything out, and and then I'll start running the figures. I will I've already opened your email, Helen, and I mean, I've opened your email. That's all I've done. So so I can have a look at at the forms. So I will I'll have a look at that from there and and get an answer to you by tomorrow. And then I'll need probably two or three weeks to put all of the information together based on what we're talking about. So it's not just gonna be a really quick quick turnaround for everything. I just need a little bit of time to be able to put everything together and, obviously, consider all of the variables, income, the drawdowns, side of things. That's the one question I had. Sorry. I've hacked it in my brain while I was listening to you guys talk. Long service leave for both of you or annual leave accrual. Do we know where things sit? Mhmm. Away. Yep. Okay. Cool. Okay. Just just because it it gives me an idea as to what, like, what you're gonna get paid out. Because if I if I turn around and I put a strategy together and implement it, then, obviously, your work pays you out this massive lump sum, I wanna make sure that we're planning. Yeah. Yeah. If we if you're comfortable to fund it. Yeah. It will. '27 financial year. Yeah. Well, five five and a half months, if you're paying it half pay, takes you through pretty much the full year. And then with any of your annual leave, that'll carry you through again. Yeah. Absolutely. It yeah. It will. It'll definitely knock right down. And and I definitely because of both of your incomes and depending on how many how many weeks we have, I definitely don't recommend just turning around being like, I quit by because the payout and the tax on that's gonna absolutely suck right now. If we're gonna do it, we definitely wait until we roll into the new financial year and then just get paid out a lump sum. Because, like, realistically, whether you get paid out a lump sum from your employer, say, the second of July, so in, like, in, you know, a month and a month and a week, or get paid out incrementally across the annum. It's not really any difference tax wise because you've earned the same amount across the year. It's just depending on whether you want it income stream wise or whether we get it paid out as a lump sum, you know, pop it into superannuation fund or pop it into whatever avenue in investment account or something like that, and just slowly draw down on it? You do. Correct. Yes. Very, very much. There is. There's that an extra little bit of of of leave accrual. And, like, the the leaves, obviously, at half pay, you get half leave accrual, but it's yeah. It it it can definitely be advantageous. And with that amount of time, like, we're not dealing with, you know, a couple of months. We're dealing with, basically, an extended period. So it it would be beneficial to have it paid out more so incrementally because of that. But I'll still run the numbers on both both sides. But realistically speaking, it's probably gonna be better to have the income stream coming from them anyway. That means you know what you have, and there's no temptation to touch the lump sum money sitting in the account. Yeah. You sure do. You definitely do have to pay for it somehow. Can I ask savings? That's the one thing we haven't touched on. Savings account. What are we sitting 270,000. Cool. Alright. Yep. No. No. That's okay. Alright. Cool. Well, I'm gonna I will get you this email, and I will get the budget to you. If you're able to just get me a leave balance for both of you and then sit down and fill out the budget. Once you get everything back to me, I will sit down, collate everything, and start planning. And, yeah, if I get two or three weeks to get everything done, and I'll sit down and we will go through it from start to finish, get a plan together on what everything looks like. Nothing's gonna be implemented till next financial year. I can tell you that. Yeah. Yeah. But the the, like, the initial stages, we're not gonna we're not gonna do anything until next financial year. Yeah. Can I just quickly confirm what are our actual pay incomes right this second, though? Or I mean Yep. Yep. Yes. Yep. Cool. Alright. That's fine. Perfect. Okay. That's I really do like you guys so much. No. I feel lazy for not having emailed you back. Okay. Cool. I will get you that. I'll get you an email, and do me a favor. If you can both pop a payslip in, the last payslip, and then just confirm the hours you guys have. Just I just wanna check your incomes properly, but I'm rolling up all the figures. So payslip, the leave accrual that you both have, and I'll attach the budget. Alright? No, please. Not at all. Did you have any of yeah. She did well. Very well. Did you guys did you have any other questions while I had you on the phone at all? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The the carry forward concessional contributions. Yes. Cool. Absolutely. Perfect. Oh, yeah. Perfect. I'll, yeah, I'll reach out to him if I if I do run into any any questions or issues. I'll, I'll flick an email through. I'll cc you in, and I'll sit down and just start playing with everything at one go. Yeah. I will. I'm gonna go home for some cuddles, I think. That's probably my place in life for the evening. That's okay, my darlings. I will talk to you soon. 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How are you going? It's Larissa from Oakview Financial. No. That's okay.\n\nSo she she gave the one that can't talk the phone. That's a bit me. That's completely fair. I understand that juggle. Yeah.\n\nGood hands. Useful. That's okay. Hi, Helen. How are you?\n\nOh, that must be devastating for you. How's your recovery going, though? Yeah. May I ask and, Paul, you don't have to answer if Helen can. What what kind of surgery like, mouth surgery, I understand, but what kind of surgery was it?\n\nOh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, you have a beautiful smile in no time. Beautiful.\n\nOh, it's it's been a day, my darlings. It has been a day, but otherwise, I'm okay. Of course. Yeah. Yes.\n\nYep. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. Got you.\n\nAbsolutely. I need the letter, if that's possible. Yep. Perfect. Yep.\n\nThat was gonna be my next my next question was what is the deadline I've given you? Because, obviously, it's gonna be different to what the it says on the letter. Okay. So if you send it to me to tonight, I will have a look at it tonight and tomorrow, and I will give you a call tomorrow. We'll respond to you in email form by tomorrow with with an an answer.\n\nYeah. Basically, yes. It's gonna come from one point stream or another, but it depends on specifically the scheme that you have set up. It depends on the regulatory body they're talking about and what they are referencing that ceased on the specific date. That's what I want to, like, I guess, not out wording wise what they've stated because that'll indicate to me whether your pension scheme is going to affect any benefits here or whether it won't affect any benefits here.\n\nThat's okay. No. Yeah. That's fair. And your question rounding that account?\n\nYep. Mhmm. Mhmm. Cool. Absolutely.\n\nYeah. So let's we can definitely note that out. I just wanna I guess, before we jump into it too too heavily, can I confirm with you guys when our retirement is still on track for? Have Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yes. Correct. Yes. Yeah.\n\nYeah. If we if we sell it while we're working, the capital gains becomes too much. But if we sell it once we're retired, we're in a much better financial position. And, yeah, we we had that we've we've had that conversation as well. And I I did a rough capital gains calculation for you guys, and and it just it it made no not that it made no sense.\n\nIt just it made better sense to sort of hold on to it if we didn't have to sell it. Realistically speaking, if you were to retire today or semi retire today, you you're sitting pretty well. Like, you have $900,000 for Paul and $4.40 sitting for Helen. In terms of of income and and, I guess, draw downs on that yes. Sorry?\n\nNo. Like, don't be wrong. There was a bit of a bounce. Don't don't get me wrong. Like, for your account, if you had have called me and asked me in March, I would have given you a shocking you were sitting at 08:38.\n\nYeah. So, yeah, there was there was a little bit of a moment of, I guess, a bit of a bounce. But at the same time, your employer popped money into your account during that time. It bought assets at a smaller value. The market bounced back up.\n\nIt's why I I generally tell my clients don't look at the account all the time because it becomes a scary exercise. But one second. Why is the computer not working? Come on. There we go.\n\nI am I am honestly having the most atrocious day, to be completely honest with you both. You are making my evening. That is definitely for sure. Thrown it. Yeah.\n\nOh, it's it's it's been that tight. Yeah. I had I had the unfortunate well, fortunate business of waking up this morning, and my one of my puppies had passed away, unfortunately. So no. It's okay.\n\nHe he I mean, he was old. He wasn't really a puppy, but yeah. So it's just been one of those glorious days that we do have have in our life. They are, and I have three beautiful young children at home. So makes it a little bit little bit harder to explain that, doesn't it?\n\nAnyway, so I guess income wise, the the the biggest question mark is gonna be whether realistically, it comes down to comfort at this point. If you want to fully retire, because we do have that property in Sydney that we can sell, and correct me if I'm wrong, we're sitting well over a million dollars on the value of that property. Fantastic. And the mortgage Perfect. Is is there still a is there a there's a little bit of a mortgage on that property still as well, isn't there?\n\nYep. Yes. Yeah. So and the income that you have coming in from the property per week, have we increased that income at all or changed it? Okay.\n\nSo $7.60. So it sounds I mean, if I'm literally just using brain math right this second, we're probably sitting a bit positively geared with yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So we might be sort of maybe a little bit neutrally, kind of, like, bearing.\n\nAnd that's just me kind of just quickly trying to do the math on what an interest only loan would be without actually using a calculator. It's now variable and it's interest and principal? Okay. Right. Okay.\n\nOkay. Okay. Right. Right. Right.\n\nOkay. So it's a principal and interest paying loan, 4 to $4.50 owing, and I'm assuming it's somewhere around the six to six and a half percent ish range. Yeah. Okay. No.\n\nThat's okay. Alright. So, yeah, we probably sitting neutral ish. So, you know, it's a matter of whether we want to I mean, we could we could sell it. If we wanna pay it off and have, you know, it actually positively geared, that would work.\n\nI think realistically at this point to really not out, like, our retirement fully and be able to establish whether we sell that property soon ish or not And whether we look to pay it out completely, we probably need to look at doing a bit of a budget as to what we would need to live on, unless you guys have a solid figure. If you don't, that's okay. I can send you a bit of a budget plan that we can fill out to just plan a little bit, And that will give us an idea as to what we're gonna need for our retirement planning and whether, you know, whether we're gonna need that property as an income stream or whether we sell that property to pay out the debt and add to our capital to draw down on. Do the biggest question I have for you, and this really, I guess, scales where we're going with things, is do you wanna keep working? Okay.\n\nAlright. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.\n\nAbsolutely. So let's start planning in that methodology with that in mind that you are burnt out. And at the best, we definitely take a major step back. Well, at the worst, we take a major step back, and at the at the best, we fully retire right this second. Well, not right this second, but we retire with the intention to to sort of not go back to work at least foreseeably.\n\nAnd maybe maybe in the future when you're feeling a little bit more relaxed, maybe you step back in and do some contracting or whatever the case may be. But right now because I I know you've been doing your job for an extensive amount of time and and that you're very knowledgeable in what you do. So I'm assuming your your, I guess, trade is pretty transferable. You could step into something else. Yeah.\n\nYep. Yep. Absolutely. And that is completely okay. Alright.\n\nSo, Helen, where are you sitting with all of this? Are you wanting to hang up the boots? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. Definitely.\n\nJust just so we can get it right. Oh, trust me. That it's that that's what happens in my house too. My husband's a spender and I'm a saver. Always.\n\nPerfect. Yeah. That that's fair. Yeah. No.\n\nOkay. That's that's absolutely okay. So let's because it it's been basically, I was thinking about eight months since we've spoken anyway. So let's just let me just make sure that I've got, like that we're all up to date and accurate with everything before I send you the budget planner and we start running around. Goals wise, we still wanna have the mortgage paid off and we wanna travel around Australia with a car camper van or a little bit less so because our health needs to take a bit of a focus priority at the moment.\n\nWhere are we sitting? Okay. I have to tell you, the Canning Stock Route is beautiful, and you should definitely add that to your bucket list. And then we wanna go fishing and travel Italy, Australia, and you wanna just take it slow. Perfect.\n\nWe still have the caravan in Nudgee. Perfect. And do we know what the caravan's value is? Like, what it's worth? That's okay.\n\nWould we need a new caravan to do what we wanna do, or are we yeah. Fair. Okay. So new caravan. And those things can go for 50 to 100 to 200.\n\nSo what kind of what kind of bracket are we looking at? A to a 100. Fantastic. Asset wise, where are we sitting with the property's value and loans left? You the the Sydney one, 1.4 in value and about 4 to $4.50 owing?\n\nWoman after my own heart. Cool. So Glenfield is the 1.4 value with $4.59. And then our p PPR, do you know what the rough value of the PPR is? Not that really yeah.\n\nPrimary residence. One point four. Perfect. And then we have the Ampol shares. Do you know what the share agreement is with those shares?\n\nDo you have any specific buyout with them? If you cease working, they take them back. Okay. Yep. Okay.\n\nPerfect. Good. I was going to. Yes. Okay.\n\nSomewhere in that vicinity. No. That's okay. When I send an email through to you for with the budget planner, I'll get you to pop in this, like, the share the last share statement that you have from them. It'll be somewhere in the email.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Split the difference and we'll call it somewhere in the vicinity of 1.45.\n\nOther assets, motorbikes, boats perfect. Are we that sounds about right. Do we wanna keep the motorbikes? We wanna keep the two boats. Do we wanna okay.\n\nWhat what are the value of both of the motorbikes? What are the value of most of the boats? I'm assuming we're selling selling the 8,000? Cool. Yep.\n\nYeah. Completely fair. If it's that kind of item, then, yeah, we could be looking at 100 hundreds. Yeah. Okay.\n\nOkay. Okay. Cool. Good price point. And I'm assuming we're are we selling the $10,000 one keeping the selected item?\n\nOkay. And then the cards, what are we driving at the moment? Fair. Yep. That's about ballpark.\n\nSo I'm assuming we're getting rid of the not Ranger, the Nissan. Yep. Because the Ranger's gonna tow the caravan. Cool. So we can liquidate some of the assets, which will give us a cash injection for a little bit, which is good.\n\nLet's not obviously, we're not moving anything too too quickly, and and assets still take time to sell. So that's okay. Our home, we still wanna keep. That is correct. And I have I have that written in my notes that we didn't wanna sell the house.\n\nI just want to make sure that I'm not misinterpreting that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Alright.\n\nOkay. Alright. That's okay. Would we downsize a little bit with the intention of maybe being able to knock over the loss of the loan and buy another house with the proceeds? Okay.\n\nAlright. That's okay. Alright. So it's a possibility that we could probably, like, knock over the PPR loan with the with a little bit of a downsize, but nothing too drastic. We're we're not going to a unit.\n\nWe wanna garden. We wanna still mow and frolic and enjoy the roses. Okay. Gives me a good scope just to make sure that I'm on the same page as you. Alright.\n\nSo outside of that, the biggest thing we wanna do is we wanna make sure that we've got a good scope on what our costs are in relation to the upkeep of our home, in relation to what we're spending on groceries, what we're spending on fuel, all that kind of stuff. So I'll send through a budget. Put down what you're currently spending. I I will gross up or get rid of anything that's not relevant. Obviously, you're running two cars right now.\n\nPut both of the car registrations on there. I will obviously halve it based on the fact that we're gonna get rid of one car, we're gonna get rid of one bike, we're gonna get rid of one of the boats. Put all of those things down, and I will get rid of what is not relevant when we retire based on, you know, what you guys are willing to sell, whether we need to sell it or not. It's just giving us basically a scope of where things fit. It also gives me a good understanding, I guess, as to what we really need when we retire because there's always, I want a $100,000.\n\nRight? You know? I think I need $50,000 worth of an income. And then when you start writing down the figures, it really comes into fruition what you're actually spending and what is realistic based on the lifestyle that you currently live. And that's gonna give me the the true scope of what our draw downs look like, when we're gonna be able to access Centrelink if we're gonna be able to access Centrelink.\n\nObviously, not right now when you have the investment property, but if we liquidate the investment property, what does that look like for us long term? And that's gonna give us a scale of that. If you are able to send through the tax return for last last financial year, it's fine for both of you. I know that we're 12 down the line, and as you said, the like, there's been a few changes to, you know, the increase in the investment property rent and stuff like that. It'll just give me a good basis for what the investment property was doing last financial year.\n\nSo that way, I can have a look and see whether it's positively or negatively geared and make sure I'm including that in our budget. Because if we keep it and it's still positive, negative, neutral, whatever this position is on that property, we need to consider the expenses for you guys because that's you're not gonna have an income to be able to put into that property anymore. We're gonna need to basically draw down on whatever assets we have to make sure that we're upkeeping that property. If it if it's if it if it is positively geared, then we we're sitting pretty, but we need to make sure that we're sitting okay with that. The only other alternative if you don't wanna send me last financial years is we wait a couple of months till you do the financial years accounting, and you send me that.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Velocity expenses to get everything fixed. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. So so so go last financial year for four to four to five. Fine. Well, five to six hours. Yeah.\n\nGo go to last. Find it. Yep. That'll that's fine. It'll give me a good basis of everything.\n\nAnd as you said, it's $7.60 that you're getting paid per week, so I can just that's math. That's that's easy for me to do the math on that. And I can work out what your agent's being paid as a percentage and increase that based on the percentage of income. So I can work through all of those figures and work out that. What are you doing to me?\n\nYeah. Fair. That's okay. Generally generally, the ages are pretty competitive within the same area. Like, if I if I turn around, I I would say that Queensland's average rental management fee is 7.5%.\n\nI know that because I've done a lot of rental properties in Queensland lately. I I could definitely look it up for New South Wales. That's easy enough, but I can I can base it on what your other real estate agent was charging? Oh, way cheaper. I love that.\n\nAnd that'll give me a good in a a a good understanding because I I know our incomes, you know, with Helen sitting sort of around 80 k and and you're sitting 6 figures. So I know that, like, income wise, that's what our incomes are, but we get rid of one of the cars, we get rid of the bike, we get rid of the the boat, that's gonna reduce our overhead tapes. And then it's a matter of, I guess, looking at everything else from there. If I was to ask, like, if we were to live the dream that we wanna live, how long would you guys spend traveling per year? Like, would it be three months out, three months home, three months out again?\n\nYeah. Yep. No. Yeah. Just decent enough trips that you can go and see a decent amount, but you get to come home, rest your laurels, and and and reset.\n\nNo. Do not apologize for the barking. That is okay. Absolutely okay. Cool.\n\nSo yes? Perfect. No. That's okay. God.\n\nI love you guys. Perfect. I was like, I'll send you an email, and you're like, no. I've got it. I've sent it to you already.\n\nPerfect. Alright. Well, that's those things. I'll send you a budget. I think that's pretty much the everything that I can think of right now.\n\nNo. Paul's I mean, it's it's semantics really, but Paul's hub twenty four account is connected to his work email address, which is paul@ampollsomethingsomething something, phobs@ampoll.com.hick.au. Do you want me to get that updated now to move to your personal email address? So that way, when we do get to the Yes. Perfect.\n\nGood. I believe because Caden sent them through. I believe that that has the the request for yeah. I'll I'll I'll change it in our system if it hasn't already, but I know that the hub twenty four account is connected to the work email address with which which I definitely need to make sure is is changed. That's okay.\n\nOutside of that, yeah, it's just it's just I guess the budget's gonna give me a really good understanding. Unless do you guys have, I guess, a ballpark figure that you think it's always fun kind of finding out this answer. Do you have a ballpark figure that you think is suitable to have as an income for you? No. That's fair.\n\nYep. Correct. Then we start traveling and the fuel bill goes up. No. That's that's okay.\n\nIt's it's always just kind of, I guess, a fun exercise. You know, do you know what you need? And then I start running running the figures and and using, like, the actual analytical data, and the numbers never add up. But it's always kind of fun to shock value. Yeah.\n\nYeah. And and that's where the budget will come in in handy because it'll open up what the actual expenses are for the household a lot more for you both, Become a little bit more transparent. So I will email that to you tonight so you can go and fill everything out, and and then I'll start running the figures. I will I've already opened your email, Helen, and I mean, I've opened your email. That's all I've done.\n\nSo so I can have a look at at the forms. So I will I'll have a look at that from there and and get an answer to you by tomorrow. And then I'll need probably two or three weeks to put all of the information together based on what we're talking about. So it's not just gonna be a really quick quick turnaround for everything. I just need a little bit of time to be able to put everything together and, obviously, consider all of the variables, income, the drawdowns, side of things.\n\nThat's the one question I had. Sorry. I've hacked it in my brain while I was listening to you guys talk. Long service leave for both of you or annual leave accrual. Do we know where things sit?\n\nMhmm. Away. Yep. Okay. Cool.\n\nOkay. Just just because it it gives me an idea as to what, like, what you're gonna get paid out. Because if I if I turn around and I put a strategy together and implement it, then, obviously, your work pays you out this massive lump sum, I wanna make sure that we're planning. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nIf we if you're comfortable to fund it. Yeah. It will. '27 financial year. Yeah.\n\nWell, five five and a half months, if you're paying it half pay, takes you through pretty much the full year. And then with any of your annual leave, that'll carry you through again. Yeah. Absolutely. It yeah.\n\nIt will. It'll definitely knock right down. And and I definitely because of both of your incomes and depending on how many how many weeks we have, I definitely don't recommend just turning around being like, I quit by because the payout and the tax on that's gonna absolutely suck right now. If we're gonna do it, we definitely wait until we roll into the new financial year and then just get paid out a lump sum. Because, like, realistically, whether you get paid out a lump sum from your employer, say, the second of July, so in, like, in, you know, a month and a month and a week, or get paid out incrementally across the annum.\n\nIt's not really any difference tax wise because you've earned the same amount across the year. It's just depending on whether you want it income stream wise or whether we get it paid out as a lump sum, you know, pop it into superannuation fund or pop it into whatever avenue in investment account or something like that, and just slowly draw down on it? You do. Correct. Yes.\n\nVery, very much. There is. There's that an extra little bit of of of leave accrual. And, like, the the leaves, obviously, at half pay, you get half leave accrual, but it's yeah. It it it can definitely be advantageous.\n\nAnd with that amount of time, like, we're not dealing with, you know, a couple of months. We're dealing with, basically, an extended period. So it it would be beneficial to have it paid out more so incrementally because of that. But I'll still run the numbers on both both sides. But realistically speaking, it's probably gonna be better to have the income stream coming from them anyway.\n\nThat means you know what you have, and there's no temptation to touch the lump sum money sitting in the account. Yeah. You sure do. You definitely do have to pay for it somehow. Can I ask savings?\n\nThat's the one thing we haven't touched on. Savings account. What are we sitting 270,000. Cool. Alright.\n\nYep. No. No. That's okay. Alright.\n\nCool. Well, I'm gonna I will get you this email, and I will get the budget to you. If you're able to just get me a leave balance for both of you and then sit down and fill out the budget. Once you get everything back to me, I will sit down, collate everything, and start planning. And, yeah, if I get two or three weeks to get everything done, and I'll sit down and we will go through it from start to finish, get a plan together on what everything looks like.\n\nNothing's gonna be implemented till next financial year. I can tell you that. Yeah. Yeah. But the the, like, the initial stages, we're not gonna we're not gonna do anything until next financial year.\n\nYeah. Can I just quickly confirm what are our actual pay incomes right this second, though? Or I mean Yep. Yep. Yes.\n\nYep. Cool. Alright. That's fine. Perfect.\n\nOkay. That's I really do like you guys so much. No. I feel lazy for not having emailed you back. Okay.\n\nCool. I will get you that. I'll get you an email, and do me a favor. If you can both pop a payslip in, the last payslip, and then just confirm the hours you guys have. Just I just wanna check your incomes properly, but I'm rolling up all the figures.\n\nSo payslip, the leave accrual that you both have, and I'll attach the budget. Alright? No, please. Not at all. Did you have any of yeah.\n\nShe did well. Very well. Did you guys did you have any other questions while I had you on the phone at all? Yes. Yeah.\n\nYeah. The the carry forward concessional contributions. Yes. Cool. Absolutely.\n\nPerfect. Oh, yeah. Perfect. I'll, yeah, I'll reach out to him if I if I do run into any any questions or issues. I'll, I'll flick an email through.\n\nI'll cc you in, and I'll sit down and just start playing with everything at one go. Yeah. I will. I'm gonna go home for some cuddles, I think. That's probably my place in life for the evening.\n\nThat's okay, my darlings. I will talk to you soon. 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Good. Helen just handed me the phone. I'm having trouble talking. It's all good. Yeah. Because she because she's got wet hands. Yeah. Yeah. I I had my uses. Okay. Yes. Now she's she's now now attentive. I'll put you on speaker. Hi there. It's bad. Yeah. Not too bad. Thank you. Alright. Yeah. I apologize for Paul. He's had a mouth surgery, so it's a little bit hard for him to talk. But he can still talk because not too much. Well yeah. It's not it's not everything is cracked up to the back of the day. Slowly. That's alright. Hello, sir. What do they call it? A one implants. So it's basically bone grafts and yeah. Post. And post put in because he can't wear a denture, and he's had to have all his teeth removed, and the bone grafts have been absolute agony. So just severe infections throughout his mouth. So all the teeth are about to come out. Yeah. The joys are getting old. That's alright. So, apparently, I'm gonna have a yeah. I'm gonna apparently have a smile like a racehorse, apparently. Anyway, how are you, Lewis? That's good. Good. Good. We just have two or three questions if you can bear with us. Right. I've got a letter. So I've had to go overseas for six months because my dad was terminally ill. He's passed away. Everything's good. But while I was there, I got in touch with HMN Revenue and Customs to find out about my pension my English pension. And they've asked if I want to make voluntary contributions and to bump up my pension. So they sent me a letter. They've given me so, unfortunately, the date of the letter was the April 9. It arrived on the May 7, and my deadline was the May 8 to pay. So I had to phone them up and say, you've given me thirty one days, but I didn't get the letter until the May 7. So they've given me a a small extension of time, but I was gonna go ahead and pay it and do a one paragraph in the letter right near the end. Basically, it says something along the lines of if you live in Australia or if you live permanently in Australia, the Social Security agreement between UK and Australia allowed UK national insurances to count towards an Australian age pension when returning to Australia. And this agreement ended in March 2001. It just it just goes basically goes on to say that you might need to seek some financial advice as to whether it's going to be prudent to pay these voluntary contributions or not. So so that is a question for me to you as to do I pay it or don't I? Okay. I can scan it and send it over to you. Not a problem at all. Yep. Just bear in mind that I do have a deadline at as to when I have to pay. Let's just say that it was sooner rather than later now. Yep. You're right. Lovely. Thank you very much. Alright. Cool. Wonderful. Thank you very much. On that on that question, Marissa, if those contributions would be paid into the Australian super rather than the British pension scheme, it's still basically the same because whatever happens, you're going to be as a form of income when you're retired, it's gonna come from one stream or the other. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Alright. I will give the floor over to Paul for his questions. Thanks for that, Larissa. That's alright. I'm I'm I'm not in the same boat because I opted out of SERPs. God knows when. I think it was about £9,000 sitting in an account with a sander earning about 1.14% every per annum. It's not a great deal of money. It was gonna cost me more money to get it over here than to rather than leave it there. Yep. The account no. I wasn't gonna I was leaving mine there. It's where we actually now sit with after Donald Trump's little exercise in The Middle East, things went up and down, How are we looking heading towards a retirement figure and a date, if that makes any sense? Yeah. Yeah. That was the question we have with Servi, and he said, oh, well, Helen remembers. Yeah. You can try it now, but you wouldn't have too much on. Okay. We'll carry on working. And it was in the eighteen months to two years thereabouts. I've had a few medical issues, and I'm thinking, and how's it going? Oh, you don't know what's gonna happen around the corner. So do I pull the team now and go into semi retirement, or do I carry on working part time? Depends how we're financially fixed. Bear in mind, we I think we had this discussion with Chevy. The property in Sydney, we can't sell till we're retired anymore. Financially, we're more beneficial to sell it when we're retired and we have length of a process or income stream. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No. So I'm I'm listening. I didn't eat with quite that much, actually. I've gone from this exercise. We've taken a bit of a beating on that. But, anyway wow. Yeah. No. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so. Yes. IT day, is it? Helen had one of them as well. Yes. It's been one of those days for me as well where I could have quite happily picked up the laptop and left it somewhere. Yeah. I've been polite. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, doing these fur babies, though. It's still hard. Very, very hard. Yeah. Yeah. It does. Yep. Yep. And I think it was 1 0.4 the other day when I looked. And and for what it's worth, the tenant's quite happy to stay there for the next five years that we were told. Oh, there's a 400 thou $404,150 something thousand mortgage on it. It's was interest interest only mortgage. Yes. It was increased to $7.60, I think it was a week. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Or maybe negative. I'm not sure. Because you got the rights and everything else coming out of that as well. Yeah. Oh, no. It it it it used to be interest only, but they her mortgage broker forgot to advise us because she was having family issues that it went to a variable and didn't get changed back. So it's, you know, now at variable. Yep. Yep. Whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yep. At this point in time, in my current state, no. I've had enough of work. I've had enough of work. It's called it's called burnout. I was basically burnout. I've tried to do too much too many long hours, and it was just getting the more you did, the more got filed on. You know what? I just no. No. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, good going to the mining sector, energy sector doing what I do, but, you know, I really don't wanna do the corporate stuff anymore. I'm just quite happy doing a rather, as someone called it, a fire system. Excellent. Financially independent retire early. Yep. I'm base I'm basically similar to Paul to a degree. I'm not burnt out. I can still work for a bit longer. It it's a case of or otherwise, I give up my job and find something else and go and work for Bunnings. You know? It's a means to an end. I was hanging out for redundancy, but we've just been informed that we're not gonna get redundancy. We've got a big change at work of management. So things are going to change. Ask me in six months' time. I probably don't I won't want to be there with all the changes, but at the moment, I don't mind seeing it through. I don't mind a challenge. It's really whether Paul can be here on his own while one person still works and the other one doesn't. And I don't know if it's beneficial if I do. I suppose that's the golden question. Is it is it more to our advantage for both of us to retire, or is it to our advantage if one carries on working and one doesn't? Do I reduce hours? Do I remain on the same you know, I suppose there's lots of variables as to what's really the most cost effective for us. I think the budget plan we're gonna have to go through the budget planner first to work out to get So that does that mean you stop spending? It's role reversal here. The woman doesn't spend the money. The man does. Yep. Yep. Yep. So nothing. I don't okay. I'm I buy assets, though. Not consumers. Yeah. Right. No. We're a hoarder. But anyway so, really, whatever is to the advantage to us, really. Yep. Yep. Okay. Basically, both of those. Paul's gotta get his health back on track. And, yeah, we still want to try. We still wanna do things, and that will be on a bucket list. Where we go, what we do, we have no idea whatsoever. But it is really dependent on if we retire, how much money we've got to be able to do it. Okay. Alright. It's on. Yes. Yeah. Yep. About $4,000. Now it's worth about nothing. She's worth nothing because we haven't been up there for two to three years. Yeah. We would. We would. The old girl is 1962 vintage caravan, and there's no way would it get around Australia, not even from Mudgee to Newcastle. So, yes, definitely definitely a new kind of van for sure. Correct. Oh, look. Cheaper rather than yeah. You're looking about 80 to a 100. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Give me five seconds, and I'll tell you what it is. I'm just quickly logging in. Hang on. Just thinking. Here we go. Right. So for our own residence, 355,000 owing on it. And the Glenfield investment, 5 459,000 on it. Yep. Primary residence. It is I think it was 1.4 as well when I looked. I'll double check while you're talking. No. They don't. If I cease working with them, whatever I own at that time because while I'm working for them, there is a preservation on them for three years. As soon as I stop working for them, the preservation is removed, and I can sell them. Now you're gonna ask me, I've got on here. I haven't got a clue. There is a clue. There'd be 25 to $30,000 worth. Maybe a month or I don't know. Yeah. John might have that one. He will. Yeah. No. So the accountant might have all of that. That that actually have come through end of financial year. What you followed and what debited is you're being paid comes through in your group's certificate. Okay. Just to let you know, the range of our residents is only got the 2 figures, but low range 1.3 to high range 1.6. Yep. Yep. Yeah. All of them. Two bikes, two boats, two cars, four four hundred and fifty fishing rods, 16 sets of golf clubs. That's just today with you. Don't fall. Don't. No. Only one boat. Only one boat, one car, one bike. And leaving the parking won't go. One will go. The other one. The one boat's worth about 55,000. The other boat's worth about 8,000. One boat yeah. One bike, I couldn't tell you a price on it because of the collector's item. There's only 200 ever made, and it's the only one sitting in Australia at the moment. They're still rideable. The other one is worth about 10,000. I couldn't tell you the other one. I have to go on a specialist market channel or somewhere to find a price. Oh, no. I just ran about between 30 and 50. I've seen them go for in America. They're going for it, and that's 30 to 50,000 Australian dollars, not US dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've gotten this in the virus worth about $1,012,000, and I got a brand new Ranger sitting in the garage worth about 75,070 thousand. I don't know what they're worth. Yeah. No. Yep. Yep. If we end up staying here, so be it. But, ideally, we would like at the moment, we live in a two story and we live upstairs. If we're impractical, we should really move to a one story house. We don't really wanna downsize too much. It'd be same same, but just one story, not two. So, therefore, it probably would be the same amount of money if we did sell and rebuy. Yep. Yeah. We don't need a five bedroom home. We've got a three bedroom home, I think. Yep. No. It's not. Yep. Definitely. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. If we do if yeah. If we do this one for 2526, The house was very well. We had to, like, get the tenant out because of the damage that we caused. So the house was vacant for four or five months while renos were going on, and new tenants were put in. So there was a bit of a a fairly big loss there, a lot. 15,000 of income that was lost for no rents coming in for 20 five. Yeah. Yeah. Plus the expenses to get back on track for someone else to move in, which is another 20. Yep. Yeah. Four five. Yep. Yep. We had to change the agent. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. We changed the agent as well because the agent that we've had the the agent we had wasn't really keeping up to date with what was going on, and they were just copy and pasting the the inspections. And when both the term termite man went in, he showed me pictures and go, that's not what the real estate sent three three weeks ago. So very, very different. So, yeah, things got moved very quickly to get them out. Then we got a new new agent. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I'm fine. Yeah. Yeah. I think we've got a statement somewhere from this way tonight. They're about, you know, 4 and a half or 5, something like that anyway. Yes. I already checked again. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Probably. Yeah. Probably. We need because it'd be traveling down across back again, and back up. Seeing grand seeing family, seeing other bits, and then coming back to seeing family, and possibly family flying out while we're out, but it would not be too long. It will be, like, twelve months at a time, though. Yep. Sorry about that. No. We're we're we're doggy sitting our son's dog. Oh, so it's gonna say I've sent you a copy of the revenue and customs letter. I sent it directly to the your email, not through Oakview. And I'll do the same with our two tax returns for 2025. Yeah. That's not changed. We've actually got we've actually got letters we've gotta send back after we filled in because Helen requested them. How long ago? Last week? So I sent an email couple of weeks ago, maybe two, three weeks ago with all our new details. And we've had letters in the post that arrived yesterday. So we've just can we confirm all our new details? So we'll send those back to you. But, yes, please. If you wouldn't mind changing Paul's work phone, that'd be great. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Nothing. Thank you. I have no idea. I'll be perfectly honest. Absolutely no idea whatsoever. Well, because right. Depending Paul is in the sky, but my it's just mine's very basic. Yeah. But is it we don't know because, generally, medical bills are gonna be because you don't get the card because you're still very young. You're not 67, so you're still gonna pay for your medical bills, medications. Fuel bills will be down because you won't be traveling so much, back to the falls to work, maintenance of the cars, that sort of thing. Then just traveling fuel bill goes up. Yeah. Yeah. But just remember, I don't drive, so this is what this will be your expense. Just because you don't drive doesn't mean it's not our expense. You sit in the car too. We don't know. Don't know. Yeah. Yep. No. That's I I don't know what the rates are here. I don't know what she pays for that. Crucially, I don't know what she pays for the water. So I have no idea on those because Helen looks after that. I just pay the mortgage. Yep. Correct. Okay. Yeah. So because I had to take, basically, five and a half months long service leave, but I was approving leave while I was away. I don't know what it is off the top of my head. I can't find out. I I think I've still got a couple of months extended leave, long service leave. Paul, I don't know. Last time I looked, I hadn't oh, it's like close to five and a half months. Well, what I what I was gonna do with work, if or we're actually gonna throw the ball throw throw a bit of a curve ball, Take long shirts, leave a half pay. Yeah. Because what happens then, it extends it out to God knows how long into the new financial year at less income. I then secure more annual leave while it's doing that. So it could take me through to the end of '26 financial '27 financial year. Yeah. Yeah. So when you start 2728, there's no income stream as such, and the tax bracket drops right down. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Rob. Yep. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. But there's yeah. But there's also the part because while you're on long service leave, you're still occurring annually. Like, there's not there's a little bit there's another little bit cherry at the end of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but had to touch some of that for the dental work, which had to be done. But Helen did Helen's actually written teeth claiming on super. I said it doesn't make where where it comes from, you still gotta pay for it somehow. Yeah. I know. Yep. Yep. It's about $202.70. Yeah. Yeah. We had to take some money out for my my family over in Cyprus who's pulling on a bit of a hard time, plus my dental work and a few other bits and pieces. Not we wanted to, but it was a case of having to. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Beautiful. Yep. No. No. That's fine. That's fine. That was it's either this next one entry or the one after. See how we go. No. No. No. It's it's it's makes no common sense. No sense doing that whatsoever. Mine's one because I got a pay increase in April. I think I want about a 128 or a 126. But I'm sorry. That is as it was pointed out to me by someone, that includes my super as well. That is not your total pay. Your total pay is a lot less than that. So you're about 100,000. So yeah. So it's about 100 my total or OTE is about 100 and then the soup on top of that, whatever it is. And what? Mine, I have no idea. I think it's last time I I think it's about 82, 83, I think. I have sent you through the returns, by the way, as well. Yes. Yep. Okay. We'll get it. Thank you ever so much for that, Larissa. I I better say I better say thank you for Helen for getting doing multitasking, sending emails while we're talking as well. Very well. Very well. Not a problem. I don't think the only thing I did come to mind is when we went to the accountant, we had to do three, four years tax. So it was a a long process. But, anyway, it's all done. It's now up to date. But he did make a comment that it was very, very prudent and wise of me now I don't know what the terminology is. What did we do with my super? We took it out of the side of the house in Sydney and paid it into your we had went back five years and just paid it off. Yes. And he said that saved us a massive credit tax bill by you advising us to do that. Yeah. That's it. So he said no. It was a really good thing that we did, but he's more than happy to talk to you about anything if you want. Yes. Yes. That was the issue with the last one we had. He wouldn't talk to him. Yeah. The the last accountant we had before this was absolute nightmare, but this accountant, we've known twenty years ago, but we've gone back to him. And he said he's more than happy to talk to yourself if there's anything that you need to know or if he cannot work with you on anything. Alright. His details are in the tax returns. So okay. Cool. Alright. That's awesome. Thank you ever so much, and I hope you have a good rest of your evening. And, yeah, enjoy the time with your with your family. Yeah. I think so, too. Alright. Thank you so much for your time, Melissa. Thank you very much. Thank you. Bye. 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Good. Helen just handed me the phone. I'm having trouble talking. It's all good.\n\nYeah. Because she because she's got wet hands. Yeah. Yeah. I I had my uses.\n\nOkay. Yes. Now she's she's now now attentive. I'll put you on speaker. Hi there.\n\nIt's bad. Yeah. Not too bad. Thank you. Alright.\n\nYeah. I apologize for Paul. He's had a mouth surgery, so it's a little bit hard for him to talk. But he can still talk because not too much. Well yeah.\n\nIt's not it's not everything is cracked up to the back of the day. Slowly. That's alright. Hello, sir. What do they call it?\n\nA one implants. So it's basically bone grafts and yeah. Post. And post put in because he can't wear a denture, and he's had to have all his teeth removed, and the bone grafts have been absolute agony. So just severe infections throughout his mouth.\n\nSo all the teeth are about to come out. Yeah. The joys are getting old. That's alright. So, apparently, I'm gonna have a yeah.\n\nI'm gonna apparently have a smile like a racehorse, apparently. Anyway, how are you, Lewis? That's good. Good. Good.\n\nWe just have two or three questions if you can bear with us. Right. I've got a letter. So I've had to go overseas for six months because my dad was terminally ill. He's passed away.\n\nEverything's good. But while I was there, I got in touch with HMN Revenue and Customs to find out about my pension my English pension. And they've asked if I want to make voluntary contributions and to bump up my pension. So they sent me a letter. They've given me so, unfortunately, the date of the letter was the April 9.\n\nIt arrived on the May 7, and my deadline was the May 8 to pay. So I had to phone them up and say, you've given me thirty one days, but I didn't get the letter until the May 7. So they've given me a a small extension of time, but I was gonna go ahead and pay it and do a one paragraph in the letter right near the end. Basically, it says something along the lines of if you live in Australia or if you live permanently in Australia, the Social Security agreement between UK and Australia allowed UK national insurances to count towards an Australian age pension when returning to Australia. And this agreement ended in March 2001.\n\nIt just it just goes basically goes on to say that you might need to seek some financial advice as to whether it's going to be prudent to pay these voluntary contributions or not. So so that is a question for me to you as to do I pay it or don't I? Okay. I can scan it and send it over to you. Not a problem at all.\n\nYep. Just bear in mind that I do have a deadline at as to when I have to pay. Let's just say that it was sooner rather than later now. Yep. You're right.\n\nLovely. Thank you very much. Alright. Cool. Wonderful.\n\nThank you very much. On that on that question, Marissa, if those contributions would be paid into the Australian super rather than the British pension scheme, it's still basically the same because whatever happens, you're going to be as a form of income when you're retired, it's gonna come from one stream or the other. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Alright.\n\nI will give the floor over to Paul for his questions. Thanks for that, Larissa. That's alright. I'm I'm I'm not in the same boat because I opted out of SERPs. God knows when.\n\nI think it was about £9,000 sitting in an account with a sander earning about 1.14% every per annum. It's not a great deal of money. It was gonna cost me more money to get it over here than to rather than leave it there. Yep. The account no.\n\nI wasn't gonna I was leaving mine there. It's where we actually now sit with after Donald Trump's little exercise in The Middle East, things went up and down, How are we looking heading towards a retirement figure and a date, if that makes any sense? Yeah. Yeah. That was the question we have with Servi, and he said, oh, well, Helen remembers.\n\nYeah. You can try it now, but you wouldn't have too much on. Okay. We'll carry on working. And it was in the eighteen months to two years thereabouts.\n\nI've had a few medical issues, and I'm thinking, and how's it going? Oh, you don't know what's gonna happen around the corner. So do I pull the team now and go into semi retirement, or do I carry on working part time? Depends how we're financially fixed. Bear in mind, we I think we had this discussion with Chevy.\n\nThe property in Sydney, we can't sell till we're retired anymore. Financially, we're more beneficial to sell it when we're retired and we have length of a process or income stream. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Okay. Yeah. No. So I'm I'm listening.\n\nI didn't eat with quite that much, actually. I've gone from this exercise. We've taken a bit of a beating on that. But, anyway wow. Yeah.\n\nNo. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so.\n\nYes. IT day, is it? Helen had one of them as well. Yes. It's been one of those days for me as well where I could have quite happily picked up the laptop and left it somewhere.\n\nYeah. I've been polite. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, doing these fur babies, though. It's still hard.\n\nVery, very hard. Yeah. Yeah. It does. Yep.\n\nYep. And I think it was 1 0.4 the other day when I looked. And and for what it's worth, the tenant's quite happy to stay there for the next five years that we were told. Oh, there's a 400 thou $404,150 something thousand mortgage on it. It's was interest interest only mortgage.\n\nYes. It was increased to $7.60, I think it was a week. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah.\n\nOr maybe negative. I'm not sure. Because you got the rights and everything else coming out of that as well. Yeah. Oh, no.\n\nIt it it it used to be interest only, but they her mortgage broker forgot to advise us because she was having family issues that it went to a variable and didn't get changed back. So it's, you know, now at variable. Yep. Yep. Whatever it is.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep.\n\nYep. Yep. At this point in time, in my current state, no. I've had enough of work. I've had enough of work.\n\nIt's called it's called burnout. I was basically burnout. I've tried to do too much too many long hours, and it was just getting the more you did, the more got filed on. You know what? I just no.\n\nNo. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, good going to the mining sector, energy sector doing what I do, but, you know, I really don't wanna do the corporate stuff anymore.\n\nI'm just quite happy doing a rather, as someone called it, a fire system. Excellent. Financially independent retire early. Yep. I'm base I'm basically similar to Paul to a degree.\n\nI'm not burnt out. I can still work for a bit longer. It it's a case of or otherwise, I give up my job and find something else and go and work for Bunnings. You know? It's a means to an end.\n\nI was hanging out for redundancy, but we've just been informed that we're not gonna get redundancy. We've got a big change at work of management. So things are going to change. Ask me in six months' time. I probably don't I won't want to be there with all the changes, but at the moment, I don't mind seeing it through.\n\nI don't mind a challenge. It's really whether Paul can be here on his own while one person still works and the other one doesn't. And I don't know if it's beneficial if I do. I suppose that's the golden question. Is it is it more to our advantage for both of us to retire, or is it to our advantage if one carries on working and one doesn't?\n\nDo I reduce hours? Do I remain on the same you know, I suppose there's lots of variables as to what's really the most cost effective for us. I think the budget plan we're gonna have to go through the budget planner first to work out to get So that does that mean you stop spending? It's role reversal here. The woman doesn't spend the money.\n\nThe man does. Yep. Yep. Yep. So nothing.\n\nI don't okay. I'm I buy assets, though. Not consumers. Yeah. Right.\n\nNo. We're a hoarder. But anyway so, really, whatever is to the advantage to us, really. Yep. Yep.\n\nOkay. Basically, both of those. Paul's gotta get his health back on track. And, yeah, we still want to try. We still wanna do things, and that will be on a bucket list.\n\nWhere we go, what we do, we have no idea whatsoever. But it is really dependent on if we retire, how much money we've got to be able to do it. Okay. Alright. It's on.\n\nYes. Yeah. Yep. About $4,000. Now it's worth about nothing.\n\nShe's worth nothing because we haven't been up there for two to three years. Yeah. We would. We would. The old girl is 1962 vintage caravan, and there's no way would it get around Australia, not even from Mudgee to Newcastle.\n\nSo, yes, definitely definitely a new kind of van for sure. Correct. Oh, look. Cheaper rather than yeah. You're looking about 80 to a 100.\n\nYeah. Yep. Yep. Give me five seconds, and I'll tell you what it is. I'm just quickly logging in.\n\nHang on. Just thinking. Here we go. Right. So for our own residence, 355,000 owing on it.\n\nAnd the Glenfield investment, 5 459,000 on it. Yep. Primary residence. It is I think it was 1.4 as well when I looked. I'll double check while you're talking.\n\nNo. They don't. If I cease working with them, whatever I own at that time because while I'm working for them, there is a preservation on them for three years. As soon as I stop working for them, the preservation is removed, and I can sell them. Now you're gonna ask me, I've got on here.\n\nI haven't got a clue. There is a clue. There'd be 25 to $30,000 worth. Maybe a month or I don't know. Yeah.\n\nJohn might have that one. He will. Yeah. No. So the accountant might have all of that.\n\nThat that actually have come through end of financial year. What you followed and what debited is you're being paid comes through in your group's certificate. Okay. Just to let you know, the range of our residents is only got the 2 figures, but low range 1.3 to high range 1.6. Yep.\n\nYep. Yeah. All of them. Two bikes, two boats, two cars, four four hundred and fifty fishing rods, 16 sets of golf clubs. That's just today with you.\n\nDon't fall. Don't. No. Only one boat. Only one boat, one car, one bike.\n\nAnd leaving the parking won't go. One will go. The other one. The one boat's worth about 55,000. The other boat's worth about 8,000.\n\nOne boat yeah. One bike, I couldn't tell you a price on it because of the collector's item. There's only 200 ever made, and it's the only one sitting in Australia at the moment. They're still rideable. The other one is worth about 10,000.\n\nI couldn't tell you the other one. I have to go on a specialist market channel or somewhere to find a price. Oh, no. I just ran about between 30 and 50. I've seen them go for in America.\n\nThey're going for it, and that's 30 to 50,000 Australian dollars, not US dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've gotten this in the virus worth about $1,012,000, and I got a brand new Ranger sitting in the garage worth about 75,070 thousand.\n\nI don't know what they're worth. Yeah. No. Yep. Yep.\n\nIf we end up staying here, so be it. But, ideally, we would like at the moment, we live in a two story and we live upstairs. If we're impractical, we should really move to a one story house. We don't really wanna downsize too much. It'd be same same, but just one story, not two.\n\nSo, therefore, it probably would be the same amount of money if we did sell and rebuy. Yep. Yeah. We don't need a five bedroom home. We've got a three bedroom home, I think.\n\nYep. No. It's not. Yep. Definitely.\n\nYeah. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah.\n\nIf we do if yeah. If we do this one for 2526, The house was very well. We had to, like, get the tenant out because of the damage that we caused. So the house was vacant for four or five months while renos were going on, and new tenants were put in. So there was a bit of a a fairly big loss there, a lot.\n\n15,000 of income that was lost for no rents coming in for 20 five. Yeah. Yeah. Plus the expenses to get back on track for someone else to move in, which is another 20. Yep.\n\nYeah. Four five. Yep. Yep. We had to change the agent.\n\nSorry. Sorry. Sorry. We changed the agent as well because the agent that we've had the the agent we had wasn't really keeping up to date with what was going on, and they were just copy and pasting the the inspections. And when both the term termite man went in, he showed me pictures and go, that's not what the real estate sent three three weeks ago.\n\nSo very, very different. So, yeah, things got moved very quickly to get them out. Then we got a new new agent. Yeah. Yep.\n\nYeah. I'm fine. Yeah. Yeah. I think we've got a statement somewhere from this way tonight.\n\nThey're about, you know, 4 and a half or 5, something like that anyway. Yes. I already checked again. Yeah. Yep.\n\nYep. Yep. Probably. Yeah. Probably.\n\nWe need because it'd be traveling down across back again, and back up. Seeing grand seeing family, seeing other bits, and then coming back to seeing family, and possibly family flying out while we're out, but it would not be too long. It will be, like, twelve months at a time, though. Yep. Sorry about that.\n\nNo. We're we're we're doggy sitting our son's dog. Oh, so it's gonna say I've sent you a copy of the revenue and customs letter. I sent it directly to the your email, not through Oakview. And I'll do the same with our two tax returns for 2025.\n\nYeah. That's not changed. We've actually got we've actually got letters we've gotta send back after we filled in because Helen requested them. How long ago? Last week?\n\nSo I sent an email couple of weeks ago, maybe two, three weeks ago with all our new details. And we've had letters in the post that arrived yesterday. So we've just can we confirm all our new details? So we'll send those back to you. But, yes, please.\n\nIf you wouldn't mind changing Paul's work phone, that'd be great. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah.\n\nNothing. Thank you. I have no idea. I'll be perfectly honest. Absolutely no idea whatsoever.\n\nWell, because right. Depending Paul is in the sky, but my it's just mine's very basic. Yeah. But is it we don't know because, generally, medical bills are gonna be because you don't get the card because you're still very young. You're not 67, so you're still gonna pay for your medical bills, medications.\n\nFuel bills will be down because you won't be traveling so much, back to the falls to work, maintenance of the cars, that sort of thing. Then just traveling fuel bill goes up. Yeah. Yeah. But just remember, I don't drive, so this is what this will be your expense.\n\nJust because you don't drive doesn't mean it's not our expense. You sit in the car too. We don't know. Don't know. Yeah.\n\nYep. No. That's I I don't know what the rates are here. I don't know what she pays for that. Crucially, I don't know what she pays for the water.\n\nSo I have no idea on those because Helen looks after that. I just pay the mortgage. Yep. Correct. Okay.\n\nYeah. So because I had to take, basically, five and a half months long service leave, but I was approving leave while I was away. I don't know what it is off the top of my head. I can't find out. I I think I've still got a couple of months extended leave, long service leave.\n\nPaul, I don't know. Last time I looked, I hadn't oh, it's like close to five and a half months. Well, what I what I was gonna do with work, if or we're actually gonna throw the ball throw throw a bit of a curve ball, Take long shirts, leave a half pay. Yeah. Because what happens then, it extends it out to God knows how long into the new financial year at less income.\n\nI then secure more annual leave while it's doing that. So it could take me through to the end of '26 financial '27 financial year. Yeah. Yeah. So when you start 2728, there's no income stream as such, and the tax bracket drops right down.\n\nYes. Yes. Yeah. Rob. Yep.\n\nYeah. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Yeah. But there's yeah. But there's also the part because while you're on long service leave, you're still occurring annually. Like, there's not there's a little bit there's another little bit cherry at the end of it.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yep.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nWell, but had to touch some of that for the dental work, which had to be done. But Helen did Helen's actually written teeth claiming on super. I said it doesn't make where where it comes from, you still gotta pay for it somehow. Yeah. I know.\n\nYep. Yep. It's about $202.70. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nWe had to take some money out for my my family over in Cyprus who's pulling on a bit of a hard time, plus my dental work and a few other bits and pieces. Not we wanted to, but it was a case of having to. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.\n\nBeautiful. Yep. No. No. That's fine.\n\nThat's fine. That was it's either this next one entry or the one after. See how we go. No. No.\n\nNo. It's it's it's makes no common sense. No sense doing that whatsoever. Mine's one because I got a pay increase in April. I think I want about a 128 or a 126.\n\nBut I'm sorry. That is as it was pointed out to me by someone, that includes my super as well. That is not your total pay. Your total pay is a lot less than that. So you're about 100,000.\n\nSo yeah. So it's about 100 my total or OTE is about 100 and then the soup on top of that, whatever it is. And what? Mine, I have no idea. I think it's last time I I think it's about 82, 83, I think.\n\nI have sent you through the returns, by the way, as well. Yes. Yep. Okay. We'll get it.\n\nThank you ever so much for that, Larissa. I I better say I better say thank you for Helen for getting doing multitasking, sending emails while we're talking as well. Very well. Very well. Not a problem.\n\nI don't think the only thing I did come to mind is when we went to the accountant, we had to do three, four years tax. So it was a a long process. But, anyway, it's all done. It's now up to date. But he did make a comment that it was very, very prudent and wise of me now I don't know what the terminology is.\n\nWhat did we do with my super? We took it out of the side of the house in Sydney and paid it into your we had went back five years and just paid it off. Yes. And he said that saved us a massive credit tax bill by you advising us to do that. Yeah.\n\nThat's it. So he said no. It was a really good thing that we did, but he's more than happy to talk to you about anything if you want. Yes. Yes.\n\nThat was the issue with the last one we had. He wouldn't talk to him. Yeah. The the last accountant we had before this was absolute nightmare, but this accountant, we've known twenty years ago, but we've gone back to him. And he said he's more than happy to talk to yourself if there's anything that you need to know or if he cannot work with you on anything.\n\nAlright. His details are in the tax returns. So okay. Cool. Alright.\n\nThat's awesome. Thank you ever so much, and I hope you have a good rest of your evening. And, yeah, enjoy the time with your with your family. Yeah. I think so, too.\n\nAlright. Thank you so much for your time, Melissa. Thank you very much. Thank you. 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How are you going? It's Larissa from Oakview Financial.\n\nChannel 1: Good. Helen just handed me the phone. I'm having trouble talking.\n\nChannel 0: No. That's okay.\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: all good.\n\nChannel 0: she she gave the one that can't talk the phone. That's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: a bit\n\nChannel 1: Because\n\nChannel 0: me.\n\nChannel 1: she because she's got wet hands.\n\nChannel 0: That's completely fair. I understand that juggle.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. I I had my uses.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Good hands. Useful.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Now she's she's now now attentive. I'll put you on speaker.\n\nChannel 0: That's okay.\n\nChannel 1: Hi there. It's bad.\n\nChannel 0: Hi, Helen. How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Not too bad. Thank you. Alright. Yeah.\n\nI apologize for Paul. He's had a mouth surgery, so it's a little bit hard for him to talk. 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But while I was there, I got in touch with HMN Revenue and Customs to find out about my pension my English pension.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: And they've asked if I want to make voluntary contributions and to bump up my pension. So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: they sent me a letter. They've given me so, unfortunately, the date of the letter was the April 9. It arrived on the May 7, and my deadline was the May 8 to pay. So I had to phone them up and say, you've given me thirty one days, but I didn't get the letter until the May 7. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: they've given me a a small extension of time, but I was gonna go ahead and pay it and do a one paragraph in the letter right near the end.\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: Basically, it says something along the lines of if you live in Australia or if you live permanently in Australia, the Social Security agreement between UK and Australia allowed UK national insurances to count towards an Australian age pension when returning to Australia. And this agreement ended in March 2001.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: It just it just goes basically goes on to say that you might need to seek some financial advice as to whether it's going to be prudent to pay these voluntary\n\nChannel 0: Got\n\nChannel 1: contributions or not. So so that is a question for me\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: to you as to do I pay it or don't I?\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely. I need the letter,\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: if that's\n\nChannel 1: I can\n\nChannel 0: possible.\n\nChannel 1: scan it and send it over to you. Not a problem at all.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: Just bear in mind that I do have a deadline at\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: as\n\nChannel 0: That\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: was gonna\n\nChannel 1: when I\n\nChannel 0: be my\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: next\n\nChannel 1: to pay.\n\nChannel 0: my next question was what is the deadline I've given you? Because, obviously, it's gonna be different to what the it says on the letter.\n\nChannel 1: Let's just say that it was sooner rather than later now.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So if you send it to me to tonight, I\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: will have a\n\nChannel 1: You're\n\nChannel 0: look\n\nChannel 1: right.\n\nChannel 0: at it tonight and tomorrow, and I will give you a call tomorrow. We'll respond to you in email form\n\nChannel 1: Lovely.\n\nChannel 0: by\n\nChannel 1: Thank\n\nChannel 0: tomorrow\n\nChannel 1: you very much.\n\nChannel 0: with\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: with an an answer.\n\nChannel 1: Cool. Wonderful. Thank you very much. On that on that question, Marissa,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: if those contributions would be paid into the Australian super rather than the British pension scheme, it's still basically the same because whatever happens, you're going to be as a form of income when you're retired, it's gonna come from one stream or the other.\n\nChannel 0: Basically, yes. It's gonna come from\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: one point stream or another, but it depends on specifically the scheme that you have set up. It depends on the regulatory body they're talking about and what they are referencing that ceased on the specific date.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: That's what I want to, like, I guess, not out wording wise what they've stated\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: because that'll indicate to me whether your pension scheme is going to affect any benefits here or whether it won't affect any benefits here.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Alright.\n\nI will give the floor over to Paul for his questions. Thanks for that, Larissa.\n\nChannel 0: That's okay.\n\nChannel 1: That's alright. I'm I'm I'm not in the same boat because I opted out of SERPs. God knows when. I think it was about £9,000 sitting in an account with a sander earning about 1.14% every per annum. It's not a great deal of money.\n\nIt was gonna cost me more money to get it over here than to rather than leave it there.\n\nChannel 0: No. Yeah. That's fair. And\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: your question rounding that account?\n\nChannel 1: The account no. I wasn't gonna I was leaving mine there. It's\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: where we actually now sit with\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: after Donald Trump's little exercise in The Middle East, things went up and down, How are we looking heading towards a retirement figure and a date, if\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: that makes\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: any sense?\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely. Yeah. So let's we can definitely note that out. I just wanna I guess, before we jump into it too too heavily,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: can I confirm with you guys when our retirement is still on track for? Have\n\nChannel 1: That was the question we have with Servi, and he said, oh, well, Helen remembers. Yeah. You can try it now, but you wouldn't have too much on. Okay. We'll carry on working.\n\nAnd it was in the eighteen months to two years thereabouts.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I've had a few medical issues, and I'm thinking, and how's it going? Oh, you don't know what's gonna happen around the corner. So do\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I pull the team now and go into semi retirement, or do I carry on working part time? Depends how we're financially fixed. Bear in mind, we I think we had this discussion with Chevy. The property in Sydney, we can't sell till we're retired anymore. Financially,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: we're more beneficial to sell it when we're retired and we have\n\nChannel 0: Correct.\n\nChannel 1: length of a process or income stream.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. If we if we sell it while we're working, the capital gains becomes too much. But\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if we sell it once we're retired, we're in a much better financial position. And, yeah,\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: we we\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: had that we've we've had that conversation as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: I I did a rough capital gains calculation for you guys, and and it just it it made no not that it made no sense. It just it made better sense to sort of hold on to it if we didn't have to sell it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Realistically speaking, if you were to retire today or semi retire today, you you're sitting pretty well. Like, you have $900,000 for Paul and $4.40 sitting for Helen. In terms of of income and and, I guess, draw downs on that yes. Sorry?\n\nChannel 1: No. So I'm I'm listening. I didn't eat with quite that much, actually. I've gone from this exercise. We've taken a bit of a beating on that.\n\nBut, anyway\n\nChannel 0: No. Like, don't be wrong. There was a bit of a bounce. Don't don't get me wrong. Like, for your account, if you had have called me and asked me in March, I would have given you a shocking you were sitting at 08:38.\n\nChannel 1: wow.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So, yeah, there was there was a little bit of a moment of, I guess, a bit of a bounce. But at the same time, your employer popped money into your account during that time. It bought assets at a smaller value. The market\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: bounced back up. It's why I I generally tell my clients don't look at the account all the time\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: because\n\nChannel 1: That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it becomes a scary exercise.\n\nChannel 1: Very much so. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: But one second. Why is the computer not working? Come on. There we go. I am I am honestly having the most atrocious day, to be completely honest with you both.\n\nYou are making my evening. That is definitely for sure.\n\nChannel 1: IT day, is it? Helen had one of them as well. Yes. It's been one of those days for me as well where I could have quite happily picked up the laptop and left it somewhere.\n\nChannel 0: Thrown it. Yeah. Oh, it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it's it's been\n\nChannel 1: I've\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: been\n\nChannel 0: tight.\n\nChannel 1: polite.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I had I had the unfortunate well, fortunate business of waking up this morning, and my one of my puppies had passed away, unfortunately. So\n\nChannel 1: Oh, I'm sorry.\n\nChannel 0: no. It's okay. He he I mean, he was old.\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: He wasn't really a puppy, but\n\nChannel 1: doing these fur babies, though. It's still hard.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. So it's just been one of those glorious days that we do have have in our life.\n\nChannel 1: Very, very hard.\n\nChannel 0: They are, and I have three beautiful young children at home. So makes it a little bit little bit harder to explain that, doesn't it?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. It does.\n\nChannel 0: Anyway, so I guess income wise, the the the biggest question mark is gonna be whether realistically, it comes down to comfort at this point. If you want to fully retire, because we do have that property in Sydney\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: that we can sell, and correct me if I'm wrong, we're sitting well over a million dollars on the value of that property.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. And I think it was 1 0.4 the other day when I looked.\n\nChannel 0: Fantastic.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: And the\n\nChannel 1: and for\n\nChannel 0: mortgage\n\nChannel 1: what it's worth, the tenant's quite happy to stay there for the next five years that we were told.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. Is is there still a is there a there's a little bit of a mortgage on that property still as well, isn't there?\n\nChannel 1: Oh, there's a 400 thou $404,150 something thousand mortgage on it. It's was interest\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: interest only mortgage.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yeah. So and the income that you have coming in from the property per week, have we increased that income at all or changed it?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. It was increased to $7.60, I think it was a week.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So $7.60. So it sounds I mean,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if I'm literally just using brain math right this second, we're probably sitting a bit positively geared with\n\nChannel 1: A little bit. Yeah. Or maybe\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: negative. I'm not sure. Because you got the rights and everything else coming out of that as well.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Exactly. So we might be sort of maybe a little bit neutrally, kind of, like, bearing. And that's just me kind of just quickly trying to do the math on what an interest only loan would be without\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: actually\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: using\n\nChannel 1: no.\n\nChannel 0: a calculator.\n\nChannel 1: It it it it used to be interest only, but they her mortgage broker forgot to advise us because she was having family issues that it went to a variable and didn't get changed back. So it's, you know, now at variable.\n\nChannel 0: It's now variable and it's interest and principal?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay.\n\nRight. Right. Right. Okay. So it's a principal and interest paying loan, 4 to $4.50 owing, and I'm assuming it's somewhere around the six to six and a half percent ish range.\n\nChannel 1: Whatever it is. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay. No. That's okay. Alright.\n\nSo, yeah, we probably sitting neutral ish. So, you know, it's a matter of whether we want to I mean, we could we could sell it. If we wanna pay it off and have, you know, it actually positively geared, that would work.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I think realistically at this point to really not out, like, our retirement fully and be able to establish whether we sell that property soon ish or not And\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: whether we look to pay it out completely, we probably need to look at doing a bit of a budget as to what we would need to live on, unless\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: you guys have a solid figure. If you don't, that's okay. I can send you a bit of a budget plan that we can fill out to just plan a little bit,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And that will give us an idea as to what we're gonna need for our retirement planning and whether, you know, whether we're gonna need that property as an income stream or whether we sell that property to pay out the debt and add to our capital\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to draw\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: down on. Do the biggest question I have for you, and this really, I guess, scales where we're going with things, is do you wanna keep working?\n\nChannel 1: At this point in time, in my current state, no. I've had enough of work.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: I've had enough of work.\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: It's called it's called burnout. I was basically\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: burnout. I've tried to do too much too many long hours, and it was just getting the more you did, the more got filed on. You know what? I just no.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Okay. Absolutely. So let's start planning in that methodology with that in mind that you are burnt out. And at the best, we definitely take a major step back.\n\nWell, at the\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: worst, we take a major step back, and at the at the best, we fully retire right this second. Well, not right this second, but we retire with the intention to to sort of not go back to work at least foreseeably.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And maybe maybe in the future when you're feeling a little bit more relaxed, maybe you step back in and do some contracting or\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: whatever the case may be. But right now because I I know you've been doing your job for an extensive amount of time and and that you're very knowledgeable in what you do. So I'm assuming your your, I guess, trade is pretty transferable. You could step into something else.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, good going to the mining sector, energy sector doing what I do, but, you know, I really don't wanna do the corporate stuff anymore. I'm just\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: quite happy doing a rather, as someone called it, a fire system. Excellent. Financially independent retire early.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And that is completely okay. Alright.\n\nSo, Helen, where are you sitting with all of this? Are you wanting\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to hang\n\nChannel 1: I'm\n\nChannel 0: up\n\nChannel 1: base\n\nChannel 0: the boots?\n\nChannel 1: I'm basically similar to Paul to a degree. I'm not burnt out. I can still work for a bit longer. It it's a case of or otherwise, I give up my job and find something else and go and work for Bunnings. You know?\n\nIt's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: a means to an end.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I was hanging out for redundancy, but we've just been informed that we're not gonna get redundancy. We've got a big change at work of management. So things are going to change. Ask me in six months' time. I probably don't I won't want to be there with all the changes, but\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: at the moment, I don't mind seeing it through. I don't mind a challenge. It's really whether Paul can be here on his own while one person still works and the other one doesn't. And I don't know if it's beneficial if I do. I suppose that's the golden question.\n\nIs it is it more to our advantage for both of us to retire, or is it to our advantage if one carries on working and one doesn't? Do I reduce hours? Do I remain on the same you know, I suppose there's lots of variables as to what's really\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: the most cost effective for us.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: I think the\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: budget plan we're gonna have to go through the budget planner first to work\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: out\n\nChannel 0: Definitely.\n\nChannel 1: to get\n\nChannel 0: Just\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: so we\n\nChannel 1: does\n\nChannel 0: can\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: get\n\nChannel 1: mean\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: you stop spending? It's role reversal\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: here. The woman doesn't spend the money. The man does.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, trust me. That it's that that's what happens in my house too.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: My husband's a spender and I'm a saver. Always.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. So nothing. I don't\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: okay. I'm I buy assets, though. Not consumers.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Right. No. We're a hoarder. But anyway\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: so,\n\nChannel 0: fair.\n\nChannel 1: really, whatever is to the advantage to us, really.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. No. Okay. That's that's absolutely okay. So let's because it it's been basically, I was thinking about eight months since we've spoken anyway.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So let's just let me just make sure that I've got, like that we're all up to date and accurate with everything before I send you the budget planner and we\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: start running around.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Goals wise, we still wanna have the mortgage paid off and we wanna travel around Australia with a car camper van or a little bit less so because our health needs to take a bit of a focus priority at the moment. Where are we sitting?\n\nChannel 1: Basically, both of those. Paul's gotta get his health back on track. And, yeah, we still want to try. We still wanna do things, and that will be on a bucket list. Where we go, what we do, we have no idea whatsoever.\n\nBut it is really dependent on if we retire, how much money we've got to be able to do it.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. I have to tell you, the Canning Stock Route is beautiful, and you should definitely add that to your bucket list.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Alright. It's on.\n\nChannel 0: And then we wanna go fishing and travel Italy, Australia, and you wanna just\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: take it slow. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: We still have the caravan in Nudgee.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. And do we know what the caravan's value is? Like, what it's worth?\n\nChannel 1: About $4,000. Now it's worth about nothing. She's worth nothing because we haven't been up there for two to three years.\n\nChannel 0: That's okay. Would we need a new caravan to do what we wanna do,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: or are\n\nChannel 1: We\n\nChannel 0: we\n\nChannel 1: would. We would.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: The old girl is 1962 vintage caravan, and there's no way would it get around Australia, not even from Mudgee to Newcastle. So,\n\nChannel 0: Fair.\n\nChannel 1: yes, definitely definitely a new kind of van for sure.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So new caravan. And those things can go for 50 to 100 to 200. So\n\nChannel 1: Correct.\n\nChannel 0: what kind of what kind of\n\nChannel 1: Oh, look.\n\nChannel 0: bracket\n\nChannel 1: Cheaper\n\nChannel 0: are we looking\n\nChannel 1: rather\n\nChannel 0: at?\n\nChannel 1: than yeah. You're looking about 80 to a 100. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: A to a 100. Fantastic.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Asset wise, where are we sitting with the property's value and loans left? You the the Sydney one, 1.4 in value and about 4 to $4.50 owing?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Give me five seconds, and I'll tell you what it is. I'm just quickly logging in.\n\nChannel 0: Woman after my own heart.\n\nChannel 1: Hang on. Just thinking. Here we go. Right. So for our own residence, 355,000 owing on it.\n\nAnd the Glenfield investment, 5 459,000 on it.\n\nChannel 0: Cool. So Glenfield is the 1.4 value with $4.59. And\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: then our p PPR, do you know what the rough value of the PPR is? Not that really\n\nChannel 1: Primary residence.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Primary\n\nChannel 1: It is\n\nChannel 0: residence.\n\nChannel 1: I think it was 1.4 as well when\n\nChannel 0: One point\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: four.\n\nChannel 1: looked.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: I'll double check while you're talking.\n\nChannel 0: And then we have the Ampol shares. Do you know what the share agreement is with those shares? Do you have any specific buyout with them? If you cease working, they take them back.\n\nChannel 1: No. They don't. If I cease working with them, whatever I own at that time because while I'm working for them, there is a preservation on them for three years.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: As soon\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: as I stop working for them, the preservation is removed, and I can sell them.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Perfect. Good.\n\nChannel 1: Now you're gonna ask me, I've got on here. I haven't got a clue.\n\nChannel 0: I was going to. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: There is a clue. There'd be 25 to $30,000 worth.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Somewhere in that vicinity.\n\nChannel 1: Maybe a month or I don't know.\n\nChannel 0: No. That's okay. When I send an email through to you for with the budget planner, I'll get you to pop in this, like, the share the last share statement that you have from them.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. John might have that one. He will.\n\nChannel 0: It'll be somewhere in the email.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. No. So the accountant might have all of that. That that actually have come through end of financial year.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: What\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: you followed and what debited is you're being paid comes through in your group's certificate. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Just to let you know, the range of our residents is only got the 2 figures, but low range 1.3 to high range 1.6.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Split the difference and we'll\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: call it somewhere in the vicinity of 1.45.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Other assets, motorbikes, boats\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. All of them. Two bikes, two boats, two cars,\n\nChannel 0: perfect. Are we\n\nChannel 1: four four hundred and fifty fishing rods, 16 sets of golf clubs. That's just today with you.\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: Don't\n\nChannel 0: sounds\n\nChannel 1: fall.\n\nChannel 0: about\n\nChannel 1: Don't.\n\nChannel 0: right. Do we wanna keep the motorbikes? We wanna keep the two boats.\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: Do\n\nChannel 1: Only\n\nChannel 0: we wanna\n\nChannel 1: one boat. Only one boat, one car, one bike. And leaving the parking won't go.\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: One will go.\n\nChannel 0: What\n\nChannel 1: The other one.\n\nChannel 0: what are the value of both of the motorbikes? What are the value of most of the boats?\n\nChannel 1: The one boat's worth about 55,000. The other boat's worth about 8,000.\n\nChannel 0: I'm assuming\n\nChannel 1: One boat\n\nChannel 0: we're selling selling the 8,000?\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: One bike, I couldn't tell you a price on it because of the collector's item. There's only 200 ever made, and it's the only one sitting in Australia at the moment. They're still\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: rideable. The other one is worth about 10,000. I couldn't tell you the other one. I have to go on a specialist market channel or somewhere to find\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: a price.\n\nChannel 0: Completely fair. If it's that kind of item, then, yeah, we could be looking at 100 hundreds. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, no. I just ran about between 30 and 50. I've seen them go for in America. They're going\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: for it, and that's 30 to 50,000 Australian dollars, not US\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: dollars.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Cool. Good price point. And I'm assuming we're are we selling the $10,000 one keeping the\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: selected item? Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And then the cards, what are we driving at the moment?\n\nChannel 1: Well, I've gotten this in the virus worth about $1,012,000, and I got a brand new Ranger sitting in the garage worth about 75,070 thousand. I don't know what they're worth.\n\nChannel 0: Fair. Yep. That's about ballpark. So I'm assuming we're getting rid of the not Ranger, the Nissan.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Because the Ranger's gonna tow the caravan.\n\nChannel 1: No. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Cool. So we can liquidate some of the assets, which will give us a cash injection for a little bit, which is good. Let's not obviously, we're not moving anything too too quickly, and and assets still take time to sell.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So that's okay. Our home, we still wanna keep. That is correct. And I have I have that written in my notes that we didn't wanna sell the house. I just want to make sure that I'm not misinterpreting that.\n\nChannel 1: If we end up staying here, so be it. But, ideally, we would like at the moment, we live in a two story and we live upstairs.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: If we're impractical, we should really move to a one story house. We don't really wanna downsize too much. It'd\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: be same same, but just one story, not two.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: So,\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: therefore, it probably would be the same amount of money if we did sell and rebuy.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Alright. That's okay. Would we downsize a little bit with the intention of maybe being able to knock over the loss of the loan and\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: buy another house\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. We\n\nChannel 0: with\n\nChannel 1: don't\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: need a\n\nChannel 0: proceeds?\n\nChannel 1: five bedroom home. We've got a three bedroom home, I think.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Alright. That's okay. Alright. So it's a possibility that we could probably, like, knock over the PPR loan with the with a little bit of a downsize, but nothing\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: too drastic. We're we're not going to a unit.\n\nChannel 1: No. It's not.\n\nChannel 0: We wanna garden. We wanna still mow and frolic and enjoy the roses.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Definitely.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Gives me a good scope just to make sure that I'm on the same page as you.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Alright. So outside of that, the biggest thing we wanna do is we wanna make sure that we've got a good scope on what our costs are in relation to the upkeep of our home,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: in relation to what we're spending on groceries, what we're spending on fuel, all that kind of stuff. So I'll send through a budget. Put down what you're currently spending.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I I will gross up or get rid of anything that's not relevant. Obviously, you're running two cars right now. Put both of the car registrations on there. I will\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: obviously halve it based on the fact that we're gonna get rid of one car, we're gonna get rid of one bike, we're gonna get rid of one of the\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: boats. Put all of those things down, and I will get rid of what is not relevant\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: when we retire based on, you know, what you guys are willing to sell, whether we need to sell it or not. It's just giving us basically a scope of where things fit. It also gives me a good understanding, I guess, as to what we really need when we retire because there's always, I want a $100,000. Right? You know?\n\nI think I need $50,000 worth of an income. And then when you start writing down the figures, it really comes into fruition what you're actually spending and what is\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: realistic based on the lifestyle that you currently live.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And that's gonna give me the the true scope of what our draw downs look like, when we're gonna be able to access Centrelink if we're gonna be able to access Centrelink. Obviously, not right now when you have the investment property, but if we liquidate\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: the investment property, what does that look like for us long term? And that's gonna give us a scale of that. If you are able to send through the tax return for last last financial year, it's fine\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: for both of you. I know that we're 12 down the line, and as you said, the like, there's been a few changes to, you know, the increase in the investment property rent and stuff like that. It'll just give me a good basis for what the investment property was doing last financial year. So that way, I can have a look and see whether it's positively or negatively geared and make sure I'm including that in our budget. Because if we keep it and it's still positive, negative, neutral, whatever this position is on that property, we need to consider\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: the expenses for you guys because that's you're not gonna have an income to be able to put into that property anymore. We're gonna need to basically draw down on whatever assets we have to make sure that we're upkeeping that property.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: If it if it's if it if it is positively geared, then we we're sitting pretty, but we need to make sure that we're sitting okay with that.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: The only other alternative if you don't wanna send me last financial years is we wait a couple of months till you do the financial years\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: accounting,\n\nChannel 1: If we do\n\nChannel 0: and you\n\nChannel 1: if\n\nChannel 0: send me that.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. If we do this one for 2526, The house was very well. We had to, like, get the tenant out because of the damage that we caused. So the house was vacant for four or five months while renos were going on,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and new tenants were put in. So there was a bit of a a fairly big loss there, a lot. 15,000 of income that was lost for no rents coming in\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Velocity\n\nChannel 1: for 20\n\nChannel 0: expenses\n\nChannel 1: five.\n\nChannel 0: to get everything fixed.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Plus the expenses to get back on track for someone else to move in, which is another 20.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so so go last financial year for four to four to\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: five. Fine. Well, five to six hours. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Go\n\nChannel 1: Four\n\nChannel 0: go\n\nChannel 1: five.\n\nChannel 0: to last. Find it. Yep. That'll that's fine. It'll give me a good basis of everything.\n\nAnd as you said, it's $7.60 that you're getting paid per week, so I can just that's math. That's that's easy for me\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to do the math on that. And I can work out what your agent's being paid as a percentage and increase that based on the percentage of income.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So I can work through all of those figures\n\nChannel 1: We\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: had to\n\nChannel 0: work\n\nChannel 1: change\n\nChannel 0: out\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: that.\n\nChannel 1: agent. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. We changed the agent as well because the agent that\n\nChannel 0: What\n\nChannel 1: we've\n\nChannel 0: are you\n\nChannel 1: had\n\nChannel 0: doing to me?\n\nChannel 1: the the agent we had wasn't really keeping up to date with what was going on, and they were just copy and pasting the the inspections. And when both the term termite man went in, he showed me pictures and go, that's not what the real estate sent three three weeks ago. So very, very different. So, yeah, things got moved very quickly to get them out.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Fair. That's\n\nChannel 1: Then we\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: got a new new\n\nChannel 0: Generally\n\nChannel 1: agent.\n\nChannel 0: generally, the ages are pretty competitive within the same area.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Like, if I if I turn around, I I would say that Queensland's average rental management fee is 7.5%. I know that because I've done a lot of rental properties in Queensland lately.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: I'm fine.\n\nChannel 0: I could definitely look it up for New South Wales. That's easy enough, but I can I can base it on what your other real estate agent was charging?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. I think we've got a statement somewhere\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: from this way tonight. They're about, you know, 4 and a half or 5, something like that anyway.\n\nChannel 0: way cheaper. I love that.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. I already checked again.\n\nChannel 0: And that'll give me a good in a a a good understanding because I I know our incomes, you know, with Helen sitting sort of around 80 k and and you're sitting 6 figures.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So I know that, like, income wise, that's what our incomes are, but we get rid of one of the cars, we get rid of the bike, we get rid of the the boat, that's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: gonna reduce our overhead tapes.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And then it's a matter of, I guess, looking at everything else from there.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: If I was to ask, like, if we were to live the dream that we wanna live, how long would you guys spend traveling per year? Like, would it be three months out, three months home, three months out again?\n\nChannel 1: Probably. Yeah. Probably. We\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: need because it'd be traveling down across back again, and back up.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Seeing grand seeing family, seeing other bits, and then coming back to seeing family, and possibly family flying out while we're out, but it would not be too long. It will be, like, twelve months at a time, though.\n\nChannel 0: No. Yeah. Just decent enough trips that you can go and see a decent amount, but you get to come home, rest your\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: laurels, and and and reset.\n\nChannel 1: Sorry about that.\n\nChannel 0: No. Do not apologize for the barking.\n\nChannel 1: No. We're we're we're doggy sitting our son's dog.\n\nChannel 0: That is okay. Absolutely okay. Cool.\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: So yes?\n\nChannel 1: so it's gonna say I've sent you a copy of the revenue and customs letter. I sent it\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: directly to the your email, not through Oakview.\n\nChannel 0: No. That's okay.\n\nChannel 1: And I'll do the same with our two tax returns for 2025.\n\nChannel 0: God. I love you guys. Perfect. I was like, I'll send you an email, and you're like, no. I've got it.\n\nI've sent it to you already. Perfect. Alright. Well, that's those things. I'll send you a budget.\n\nI think that's pretty much the everything that I can think of right now. No. Paul's I mean, it's it's semantics really, but Paul's hub twenty four account is connected to his work email address, which is paul@ampollsomethingsomething something,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's not changed.\n\nChannel 0: phobs@ampoll.com.hick.au. Do you want me to get that updated now to move to your personal email address? So that way, when\n\nChannel 1: We've\n\nChannel 0: we do\n\nChannel 1: actually\n\nChannel 0: get\n\nChannel 1: got\n\nChannel 0: to the\n\nChannel 1: we've actually got letters we've gotta send back after we filled in because Helen requested them. How long ago? Last week? So I sent an email couple of weeks ago, maybe two, three weeks ago with all our new details.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: And we've had letters in the post that arrived yesterday. So we've just can we confirm all our new details? So\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: we'll send those back to you. But, yes, please. If you wouldn't mind changing Paul's work phone, that'd be great.\n\nChannel 0: Good. I believe because Caden sent them through. I believe that that has the\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: the request for yeah. I'll I'll I'll change it in our system if it hasn't already, but I know that the hub\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: twenty four account is connected to the work email address\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: with which which I definitely need to make sure is is changed.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Nothing. Thank you.\n\nChannel 0: That's okay. Outside of that, yeah, it's just it's just I guess the budget's gonna give me a really good understanding. Unless do you guys have, I guess, a ballpark figure that you think it's always fun kind of finding out this answer. Do you have a ballpark figure that you think is suitable to have as an income for you?\n\nChannel 1: I have no idea. I'll be perfectly\n\nChannel 0: No. That's\n\nChannel 1: honest.\n\nChannel 0: fair.\n\nChannel 1: Absolutely no idea whatsoever. Well, because right. Depending Paul is in the sky, but my it's just mine's very basic. Yeah. But is it we don't know because, generally, medical bills are gonna be because you don't get the card because\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: you're still very young. You're not 67, so you're still gonna pay for your medical bills, medications. Fuel bills\n\nChannel 0: Correct.\n\nChannel 1: will be down because you won't be traveling so much, back to the falls to work, maintenance of the cars, that sort of thing.\n\nChannel 0: Then we start traveling and the fuel bill goes up.\n\nChannel 1: Then just traveling fuel bill goes up. Yeah. Yeah. But just remember, I don't drive, so this is what this will be your expense. Just because you don't drive doesn't mean it's not our expense.\n\nYou sit in the car too. We don't know. Don't know.\n\nChannel 0: No. That's that's okay. It's it's always just kind of, I guess, a fun exercise. You know, do you know what you need? And then\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I start running running the figures and and using, like, the actual analytical data, and the numbers\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: never add up. But it's always\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: kind of\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: fun\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: to shock value.\n\nChannel 1: I don't know what the rates are here. I don't know what she pays for that. Crucially, I don't know what she pays for the water. So I have no idea on those because Helen looks\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: after that. I just pay the mortgage.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And and that's where the budget will come in in handy\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: because it'll open up what the actual expenses are for the household a lot more for you both,\n\nChannel 1: Correct.\n\nChannel 0: Become a little bit more transparent. So I will email that to you tonight so you can go and fill everything out, and and then I'll start running the figures. I will I've already opened your email, Helen, and\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: I mean, I've opened your email. That's all I've done. So so I can have a look at at the forms. So I will I'll have a look at that from there and and get an answer to you by tomorrow. And then I'll need probably two or three weeks to put all of the information together based on what we're talking about.\n\nSo it's not just gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: be a really quick quick turnaround for everything. I just need a little bit of time to be able to put everything together and, obviously, consider all of the variables, income, the drawdowns, side of things. That's the one question I had. Sorry. I've hacked it in my brain while I was listening to you guys talk.\n\nLong service leave for both of you or annual leave accrual. Do we know where things sit? Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: So because I had to take, basically, five and a half months long service leave, but I was approving leave while I was away.\n\nChannel 0: Away. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: I don't know what it is off the top of my head. I can't find out. I I think I've still got a couple of months extended leave,\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: long service leave. Paul, I don't know.\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: Last time I looked, I hadn't oh, it's like close to five and a half months.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Just just because it it gives me an idea as to what, like, what you're gonna get paid out. Because if I if I turn around and I put a strategy together and implement it, then, obviously, your work pays you out this massive lump sum, I wanna\n\nChannel 1: Well,\n\nChannel 0: make sure\n\nChannel 1: what\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: we're\n\nChannel 1: what I\n\nChannel 0: planning.\n\nChannel 1: was gonna do with work, if or we're actually gonna throw the ball throw throw a bit of a curve ball, Take long\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: shirts, leave a half pay.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. If we if you're comfortable to fund it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Because what happens then, it extends it out to God knows how long into the new financial year at\n\nChannel 0: It will.\n\nChannel 1: less income. I then secure more annual leave while it's doing that. So it could take me through to the end of '26 financial\n\nChannel 0: '27 financial year.\n\nChannel 1: '27 financial year.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Well, five five and a half months, if you're paying it half pay, takes you through pretty much the full year. And then with any of your annual leave, that'll carry you through again.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. So when you start 2728, there's no income stream as such,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: the tax bracket drops right down.\n\nChannel 0: It yeah. It will. It'll definitely knock\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: right\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: down.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And and\n\nChannel 1: Rob.\n\nChannel 0: I definitely because of both of your incomes and depending on\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: how many how many weeks we have, I definitely don't recommend just turning around being like, I quit by\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: because the payout and the tax on that's gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: absolutely suck right now. If we're gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: do it, we definitely wait until we roll into the new financial year and then just get paid out a lump sum. Because, like, realistically, whether you get paid out a lump sum from your employer, say, the second\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: of July,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: so in, like, in, you know, a month and a month and a week, or get paid out incrementally across the annum. It's not really any difference tax wise because you've earned the same amount across the year. It's just depending\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: on whether you want it income stream wise or whether we get it paid out as a lump sum, you know, pop it into superannuation fund or pop it into whatever avenue in investment account or\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: something like that, and\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: there's\n\nChannel 0: slowly draw down on it?\n\nChannel 1: yeah. But there's also the part because while you're on long service leave, you're still occurring\n\nChannel 0: You\n\nChannel 1: annually.\n\nChannel 0: do. Correct. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: Like,\n\nChannel 0: Very,\n\nChannel 1: there's not\n\nChannel 0: very\n\nChannel 1: there's\n\nChannel 0: much.\n\nChannel 1: a little bit there's another little bit cherry at the end of it.\n\nChannel 0: There is. There's that an extra little bit of of\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: of leave accrual.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And, like, the the leaves, obviously, at half pay, you get half leave accrual, but it's\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. It it it can definitely be advantageous. And with that amount of time, like, we're not dealing with, you know, a couple of months. We're dealing with, basically, an extended period. So it it would be beneficial to have it paid out more\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: so incrementally because of that. But I'll still run the numbers on both both sides.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: But\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: realistically speaking, it's probably gonna be better to have the income stream coming from them anyway.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: That means you know what you have, and there's no temptation to touch the lump sum money sitting in the account.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well, but had to touch some of that for the dental work, which\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: had to be done. But Helen did Helen's actually written teeth claiming on super. I said it doesn't make where where it comes from, you still gotta pay for it somehow.\n\nChannel 0: You sure do. You definitely\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I know.\n\nChannel 0: do have to pay for it somehow.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Can I ask savings? That's the one thing we haven't touched on. Savings\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: account.\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: What\n\nChannel 1: about\n\nChannel 0: are we sitting\n\nChannel 1: $202.70.\n\nChannel 0: 270,000.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Cool. Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. We had to take some money out for my my family over in Cyprus who's pulling on a bit of a hard time, plus my dental work and a few other bits and pieces.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Not\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: we wanted to, but it was a case of having to.\n\nChannel 0: No. That's okay. Alright. Cool. Well, I'm gonna I will get you this email, and I will get the budget to you.\n\nIf you're able to just get me a leave balance for both\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: of you\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: and then sit down and fill out the budget. Once you get everything back to me, I will sit down, collate everything, and start planning. And, yeah, if I get two or three weeks to get everything done, and I'll sit down and we will go through it from start\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to finish,\n\nChannel 1: Beautiful.\n\nChannel 0: get a plan together on what everything looks like.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Nothing's gonna be implemented till next financial year. I can tell you that.\n\nChannel 1: No. No. That's fine. That's fine. That was it's either this next one entry or the one after.\n\nSee how we\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: go.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. But the the, like, the initial stages, we're not gonna we're not gonna do anything until next financial\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: year.\n\nChannel 1: No. No. It's it's it's makes no common sense. No sense doing that whatsoever.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Can I just quickly confirm what are our actual pay incomes right this second, though? Or I\n\nChannel 1: Mine's\n\nChannel 0: mean\n\nChannel 1: one because I got a pay increase in April. I think I want about a 128 or a 126. But\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: I'm sorry. That is as it was pointed out to me by someone, that includes my super as well.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: That is not your total pay. Your total pay is a lot less than that. So you're\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: about 100,000. So yeah. So it's about 100 my total or OTE is about 100 and then the soup on top of that, whatever it is.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Cool. Alright. That's fine.\n\nChannel 1: And what? Mine, I have no idea. I think it's last time I I think it's about 82, 83, I think.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: I have\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: sent you through the returns, by the way, as well.\n\nChannel 0: I really do like you guys so much. No. I feel lazy for not having emailed you back. Okay. Cool.\n\nI will get you that. I'll get you an email, and do me a favor. If you can both pop a payslip in, the last payslip,\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: and then just confirm the hours you guys have. Just I just wanna check your incomes properly, but I'm rolling up all the figures. So payslip, the leave accrual\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: that you both have, and I'll attach the budget. Alright?\n\nChannel 1: Okay. We'll get it. Thank you ever so much for that, Larissa.\n\nChannel 0: No, please. Not at all. Did\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: you have\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: any\n\nChannel 1: better say\n\nChannel 0: of\n\nChannel 1: I better\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: say thank you for Helen for getting doing multitasking, sending emails while we're talking as well.\n\nChannel 0: She did well. Very well.\n\nChannel 1: Very well. Very well. Not\n\nChannel 0: Did\n\nChannel 1: a problem.\n\nChannel 0: you guys did you have any other questions while I had you on the phone at all?\n\nChannel 1: I don't think the only thing I did come to mind is when we went to the accountant, we had to do three, four years tax. So it was a a long process. But, anyway, it's all done. It's now up to date. But he did make a comment that it was very, very prudent and wise of me now I don't know what the terminology is.\n\nWhat did we do with my super? We took it out of the side of the house in Sydney and paid it into your we had went back five years and just paid it off. Yes. And he said that saved us a massive credit tax bill by you advising us to do that.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The the carry forward concessional contributions. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's it. So he said no. It was a really good thing that we did, but he's more than happy to talk to you about anything if you want. Yes.\n\nYes. That was the issue with the last one we had. He wouldn't talk to him. Yeah. The the last accountant we had before this was absolute nightmare, but this accountant, we've known twenty years ago, but we've gone back to him.\n\nAnd he said he's more than happy to talk to yourself if there's anything that you need to know or if\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: he cannot work with you on anything.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: His\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: details are in the tax returns. So\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. I'll, yeah, I'll reach out to him if I if I do run into any any questions or issues. I'll, I'll flick an email through. I'll cc you in,\n\nChannel 1: okay. Cool.\n\nChannel 0: and I'll sit down and just start playing with everything at one go.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. That's awesome. Thank you ever so much, and I hope you have a good rest of your evening. And, yeah, enjoy the time with your with your family.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I will. I'm gonna go home for some cuddles, I think.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I think\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: so,\n\nChannel 0: probably\n\nChannel 1: too.\n\nChannel 0: my place in life for the evening.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. Thank you so much for your time, Melissa.\n\nChannel 0: That's okay, my darlings. I will talk to you soon.\n\nChannel 1: Thank you very much. Thank you. Bye. 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Okay.","start_word":7483,"end_word":7550,"intents":[{"intent":"Request financial assistance","confidence_score":0.00002366617}]},{"text":"If you can both pop a payslip in, the last payslip, Yes. and then just confirm the hours you guys have. Just I just wanna check your incomes properly, but I'm rolling up all the figures. So payslip, the leave accrual Yep. that you both have, and I'll attach the budget. Alright? Okay.","start_word":7498,"end_word":7550,"intents":[{"intent":"Request information","confidence_score":0.0029821675},{"intent":"Confirm accounts","confidence_score":0.002529292}]},{"text":"and then just confirm the hours you guys have. Just I just wanna check your incomes properly, but I'm rolling up all the figures. So payslip, the leave accrual Yep. that you both have, and I'll attach the budget. Alright? Okay.","start_word":7510,"end_word":7550,"intents":[{"intent":"Confirm plans","confidence_score":0.00019344392}]}]},"sentiments":{"segments":[{"text":"Hello? Hi, Paul. How are you going? It's Larissa from Oakview Financial.","start_word":0,"end_word":11,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.12481387704610825},{"text":"Good.","start_word":12,"end_word":12,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.38917338848114014},{"text":"Helen just handed me the phone. I'm having trouble talking. No. That's okay. It's So all she good. she gave the one that can't talk the phone. That's Yeah. a bit Because me. she because she's got wet hands. That's completely fair. I understand that juggle. Yeah. Yeah. I I had my uses. Yeah. Okay. Good hands. Useful. Yes. Now she's she's now now attentive. I'll put you on speaker. That's okay. Hi there. It's bad. Hi, Helen. How are you? Yeah. Not too bad. Thank you. Alright. Yeah. I apologize for Paul. He's had a mouth surgery, so it's a little bit hard for him to talk. But he can Oh, still talk because not too much.","start_word":13,"end_word":130,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.07274305075407028},{"text":"that must be devastating for you.","start_word":131,"end_word":136,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5324062705039978},{"text":"Well yeah. It's not it's not everything is cracked up to the back of the day. How's your recovery going, though? Slowly. Yeah. May I ask and, Paul, you don't have to answer if Helen can. That's What alright. what kind Hello, of sir. surgery like, mouth surgery, I understand, but what kind of surgery was it? What do they call it? A one implants. So Oh, it's basically okay. bone grafts and yeah. Post. And post put in because he can't wear a denture, and he's had to have all his teeth removed, and the Yeah. bone grafts have been absolute agony. So just severe infections throughout his mouth. So all the teeth are about to come out. Yeah. The joys are getting old. That's alright. Yeah. Oh, well, So, you apparently, have a I'm beautiful gonna have smile a in no time. yeah. I'm gonna apparently have a smile like a racehorse, apparently.","start_word":137,"end_word":291,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.049651384353637695},{"text":"Beautiful.","start_word":292,"end_word":292,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.47859132289886475},{"text":"Anyway, how are you, Lewis?","start_word":293,"end_word":297,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23884597420692444},{"text":"That's good.","start_word":298,"end_word":299,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.39516597986221313},{"text":"Oh, it's it's been a day, my darlings. It has been a day, but otherwise, I'm okay.","start_word":300,"end_word":316,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25568637251853943},{"text":"Good. Good.","start_word":317,"end_word":318,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.677352249622345},{"text":"We just have two or three questions if you can bear with us. Of course. Right. I've got a letter. So I've had to go overseas for six months Yeah. because my dad was terminally ill. He's passed away. Everything's good. But while I was there, I got in touch with HMN Revenue and Customs to find out about my pension my English pension. Yes. And they've asked if I want to make voluntary contributions and to bump up my pension. So Yep. they sent me a letter. They've given me so, unfortunately, the date of the letter was the April 9. It arrived on the May 7, and my deadline was the May 8 to pay. So I had to phone them up and say, you've given me thirty one days, but I didn't get the letter until the May 7. So Yeah. they've given me a a small extension of time, but I was gonna go ahead and pay it and do a one paragraph in the letter right near the end. Mhmm. Basically, it says something along the lines of if you live in Australia or if you live permanently in Australia, the Social Security agreement between UK and Australia allowed UK national insurances to count towards an Australian age pension when returning to Australia. And this agreement ended in March 2001. Yep. It just it just goes basically goes on to say that you might need to seek some financial advice as to whether it's going to be prudent to pay these voluntary Got contributions or not. So so that is a question for you. me to you as to do I pay it or don't I? Absolutely. I need the letter, Okay. if that's I can possible. scan it and send it over to you. Not a problem at all. Yep. Yep.","start_word":319,"end_word":625,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.008835704997181892},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":626,"end_word":626,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4000440239906311},{"text":"Just bear in mind that I do have a deadline at Yep. as That to was gonna when I be my have next to pay. my next question was what is the deadline I've given you? Because, obviously, it's gonna be different to what the it says on the letter. Let's just say that it was sooner rather than later now. Okay. So if you send it to me to tonight, I Yep. will have a You're look right. at it tonight and tomorrow, and I will give you a call tomorrow. We'll respond to you in email form Lovely.","start_word":627,"end_word":726,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0197052089124918},{"text":"by Thank tomorrow you very much.","start_word":727,"end_word":732,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4807797074317932},{"text":"with Alright. with an an answer.","start_word":733,"end_word":738,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.17020101845264435},{"text":"Cool. Wonderful. Thank you very much.","start_word":739,"end_word":744,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6606786847114563},{"text":"On that on that question, Marissa, Yeah. if those contributions would be paid into the Australian super rather than the British pension scheme, it's still basically the same because whatever happens, you're going to be as a form of income when you're retired, it's gonna come from one stream or the other. Basically, yes. It's gonna come from Yep. one point stream or another, but it depends on specifically the scheme that you have set up. It depends on the regulatory body they're talking about and what they are referencing that ceased on the specific date. Yeah. That's what I want to, like, I guess, not out wording wise what they've stated Yeah. because that'll indicate to me whether your pension scheme is going to affect any benefits here or whether it won't affect any benefits here. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Alright. I will give the floor over to Paul for his questions.","start_word":745,"end_word":898,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.003453112905845046},{"text":"Thanks for that, Larissa.","start_word":899,"end_word":902,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3454931378364563},{"text":"That's okay. That's alright. I'm I'm I'm not in the same boat because I opted out of SERPs. God knows when. I think it was about £9,000 sitting in an account with a sander earning about 1.14% every per annum.","start_word":903,"end_word":942,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.18999719619750977},{"text":"It's not a great deal of money. It was gonna cost me more money to get it over here than to rather than leave it there.","start_word":943,"end_word":968,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4636600613594055},{"text":"No. Yeah. That's fair. And Yep. your question rounding that account? The account no. I wasn't gonna I was leaving mine there. It's Yep. where we actually now sit with Mhmm. after Donald Trump's little exercise in The Middle East, things went up and down, How are we looking heading towards a retirement figure and a date, if Mhmm. that makes Cool. any sense?","start_word":969,"end_word":1032,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.02310743083944544},{"text":"Absolutely.","start_word":1033,"end_word":1033,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4356717765331268},{"text":"Yeah.","start_word":1034,"end_word":1034,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.3137761056423187},{"text":"So let's we can definitely note that out.","start_word":1035,"end_word":1042,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3666061162948608},{"text":"I just wanna I guess, before we jump into it too too heavily, Yeah. Yeah. can I confirm with you guys when our retirement is still on track for? Have That was the question we have with Servi, and he said, oh, well, Helen remembers. Yeah. You can try it now, but you wouldn't have too much on. Okay. We'll carry on working. And it was in the eighteen months to two years thereabouts. Yeah. Yeah. I've had a few medical issues, and I'm thinking, and how's it going? Oh, you don't know what's gonna happen around the corner. So do Yeah. I pull the team now and go into semi retirement, or do I carry on working part time? Depends how we're financially fixed. Bear in mind, we I think we had this discussion with Chevy. The property in Sydney, we can't sell till we're retired anymore. Financially, Yes. we're more beneficial to sell it when we're retired and we have Correct. length of a process or income stream. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. If we if we sell it while we're working, the capital gains becomes too much. But Yeah. if we sell it once we're retired, we're in a much better financial position. And, yeah, Yes. we we Yeah. had that we've we've had that conversation as well. Yeah. And Okay. I I did a rough capital gains calculation for you guys, and and it just it it made no not that it made no sense. It just it made better sense to sort of hold on to it if we didn't have to sell it. Yeah. Realistically speaking, if you were to retire today or semi retire today, you you're sitting pretty well. Like, you have $900,000 for Paul and $4.40 sitting for Helen. In terms of of income and and, I guess, draw downs on that yes. Sorry? No. So I'm I'm listening. I didn't eat with quite that much, actually. I've gone from this exercise. We've taken a bit of a beating on that. But, anyway No. Like, don't be wrong. There was a bit of a bounce. Don't don't get me wrong. Like, for your account, if you had have called me and asked me in March, I would have given you a shocking you were sitting at 08:38. wow. Yeah. So, yeah, there was there was a little bit of a moment of, I guess, a bit of a bounce. But at the same time, your employer popped money into your account during that time. It bought assets at a smaller value. The market Yeah. bounced back up. It's why I I generally tell my clients don't look at the account all the time No. because That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah.","start_word":1043,"end_word":1499,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03729047503982645},{"text":"it becomes a scary exercise.","start_word":1500,"end_word":1504,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4894801080226898},{"text":"Very much so. Yes. But one second.","start_word":1505,"end_word":1511,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1869894117116928},{"text":"Why is the computer not working?","start_word":1512,"end_word":1517,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3661712110042572},{"text":"Come on. There we go.","start_word":1518,"end_word":1522,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.17350660264492035},{"text":"I am I am honestly having the most atrocious day, to be completely honest with you both.","start_word":1523,"end_word":1539,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.556428074836731},{"text":"You are making my evening. That is definitely for sure. IT day, is it? Helen had one of them as well. Yes. It's been one of those days for me as well where I could have quite happily picked up the laptop and left it somewhere. Thrown it. Yeah. Oh, it's Yeah. it's it's been I've that been tight. polite. Yeah.","start_word":1540,"end_word":1600,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.07221566140651703},{"text":"I had I had the unfortunate well, fortunate business of waking up this morning, and my one of my puppies had passed away, unfortunately.","start_word":1601,"end_word":1624,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34980452060699463},{"text":"So Oh, I'm sorry. no. It's okay. He he I mean, he was old. Oh, He wasn't really a puppy, but doing these fur babies, though.","start_word":1625,"end_word":1650,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.18257039785385132},{"text":"It's still hard.","start_word":1651,"end_word":1653,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4250152111053467},{"text":"yeah. So it's just been one of those glorious days that we do have have in our life.","start_word":1654,"end_word":1671,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0797225832939148},{"text":"Very, very hard.","start_word":1672,"end_word":1674,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4571760296821594},{"text":"They are, and I have three beautiful young children at home.","start_word":1675,"end_word":1685,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6177758574485779},{"text":"So makes it a little bit little bit harder to explain that, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. It does. Anyway, so I guess income wise, the the the biggest question mark is gonna be whether realistically, it comes down to comfort at this point. If you want to fully retire, because we do have that property in Sydney Yep. that we can sell, and correct me if I'm wrong, we're sitting well over a million dollars on the value of that property. Yep. And I think it was 1 0.4 the other day when I looked.","start_word":1686,"end_word":1780,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03401380777359009},{"text":"Fantastic. And And the and for mortgage what it's worth, the tenant's quite happy to stay there for the next five years that we were told. Perfect.","start_word":1781,"end_word":1807,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5098246932029724},{"text":"Is is there still a is there a there's a little bit of a mortgage on that property still as well, isn't there? Oh, there's a 400 thou $404,150 something thousand mortgage on it. It's was interest Yep. interest only mortgage. Yes. Yeah. So and the income that you have coming in from the property per week, have we increased that income at all or changed it? Yes. It was increased to $7.60, I think it was a week. Okay. So $7.60. So it sounds I mean, Yeah. if I'm literally just using brain math right this second, we're probably sitting a bit positively geared with A little bit. Yeah. Or maybe yeah. negative. I'm not sure. Because you got the rights and everything else coming out of that as well. Yeah. Exactly. So we might be sort of maybe a little bit neutrally, kind of, like, bearing. And that's just me kind of just quickly trying to do the math on what an interest only loan would be without Yeah. actually Oh, using no. a calculator. It it it it used to be interest only, but they her mortgage broker forgot to advise us because she was having family issues that it went to a variable and didn't get changed back. So it's, you know, now at variable. It's now variable and it's interest and principal? Yep. Yep. Okay. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Right. Okay. So it's a principal and interest paying loan, 4 to $4.50 owing, and I'm assuming it's somewhere around the six to six and a half percent ish range. Whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No. That's okay. Alright. So, yeah, we probably sitting neutral ish. So, you know, it's a matter of whether we want to I mean, we could we could sell it.","start_word":1808,"end_word":2109,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.008675673988875964},{"text":"If we wanna pay it off and have, you know, it actually positively geared, that would work.","start_word":2110,"end_word":2126,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34726524353027344},{"text":"Yeah. I think realistically at this point to really not out, like, our retirement fully and be able to establish whether we sell that property soon ish or not And Yeah. whether we look to pay it out completely, we probably need to look at doing a bit of a budget as to what we would need to live on, unless Yes. you guys have a solid figure. If you don't, that's okay. I can send you a bit of a budget plan that we can fill out to just plan a little bit, Yep. And that will give us an idea as to what we're gonna need for our retirement planning and whether, you know, whether we're gonna need that property as an income stream or whether we sell that property to pay out the debt and add to our capital Yep. to draw Yep. down on. Do the biggest question I have for you, and this really, I guess, scales where we're going with things, is do you wanna keep working? At this point in time, in my current state, no.","start_word":2127,"end_word":2309,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.006940464023500681},{"text":"I've had enough of work.","start_word":2310,"end_word":2314,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.41827061772346497},{"text":"Okay. I've had enough of work. Alright. It's called it's called burnout. I was basically Yeah.","start_word":2315,"end_word":2330,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.21839743852615356},{"text":"burnout. I've tried to do too much too many long hours, and it was just getting the more you did, the more got filed on.","start_word":2331,"end_word":2355,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3443746566772461},{"text":"You know what?","start_word":2356,"end_word":2358,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1972658336162567},{"text":"I just no.","start_word":2359,"end_word":2361,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3397691249847412},{"text":"Yeah. No. Okay. Okay. Absolutely. So let's start planning in that methodology with that in mind that you are burnt out.","start_word":2362,"end_word":2382,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.07923727482557297},{"text":"And at the best, we definitely take a major step back. Well, at the Yep.","start_word":2383,"end_word":2397,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4677334427833557},{"text":"worst, we take a major step back, and at the at the best, we fully retire right this second. Well, not right this second, but we retire with the intention to to sort of not go back to work at least foreseeably. And Yep. maybe maybe in the future when you're feeling a little bit more relaxed, maybe you step back in and do some contracting or Yep. whatever the case may be. But right now because I I know you've been doing your job for an extensive amount of time and and that you're very knowledgeable in what you do. So I'm assuming your your, I guess, trade is pretty transferable. You could step into something else. Oh, good going to the mining sector, energy sector doing what I do, but, you know, I really don't wanna do the corporate stuff anymore. I'm just Yeah. quite happy doing a rather, as someone called it, a fire system.","start_word":2398,"end_word":2555,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03044886142015457},{"text":"Excellent. Financially independent retire early.","start_word":2556,"end_word":2560,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4666258692741394},{"text":"Yep. Yep.","start_word":2561,"end_word":2562,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1640913486480713},{"text":"Absolutely.","start_word":2563,"end_word":2563,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34446731209754944},{"text":"And that is completely okay. Alright. So, Helen, where are you sitting with all of this? Are you wanting Yep. to hang I'm up base the boots? I'm basically similar to Paul to a degree. I'm not burnt out. I can still work for a bit longer. It it's a case of or otherwise, I give up my job and find something else and go and work for Bunnings. You know? It's Yeah. a means to an end. Yeah. I was hanging out for redundancy, but we've just been informed that we're not gonna get redundancy. We've got a big change at work of management. So things are going to change. Ask me in six months' time. I probably don't I won't want to be there with all the changes, but Yeah. at the moment, I don't mind seeing it through. I don't mind a challenge. It's really whether Paul can be here on his own while one person still works and the other one doesn't. And I don't know if it's beneficial if I do. I suppose that's the golden question. Is it is it more to our advantage for both of us to retire, or is it to our advantage if one carries on working and one doesn't? Do I reduce hours? Do I remain on the same you know, I suppose there's lots of variables as to what's really Yeah. the most cost effective for us.","start_word":2564,"end_word":2802,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04124972928767424},{"text":"Absolutely.","start_word":2803,"end_word":2803,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3352595865726471},{"text":"I think the Okay. budget plan we're gonna have to go through the budget planner first to work Yeah. out Definitely. to get Just So just that so we does can that get mean it you stop spending? It's role reversal right. here. The woman doesn't spend the money. The man does. Oh, trust me. That it's that that's what happens in my house too. Yep. My husband's a spender and I'm a saver. Always. Yep. Yep. So nothing. I don't Perfect. okay. I'm I buy assets, though. Not consumers. Yeah. That Yeah. Right. No. We're a hoarder. But anyway that's so, fair. really, whatever is to the advantage to us, really. Yeah. No. Okay. That's that's absolutely okay. So let's because it it's been basically, I was thinking about eight months since we've spoken anyway. Yep. So let's just let me just make sure that I've got, like that we're all up to date and accurate with everything before I send you the budget planner and we Yep. start running around. Okay. Goals wise, we still wanna have the mortgage paid off and we wanna travel around Australia with a car camper van or a little bit less so because our health needs to take a bit of a focus priority at the moment. Where are we sitting? Basically, both of those. Paul's gotta get his health back on track. And, yeah, we still want to try. We still wanna do things, and that will be on a bucket list. Where we go, what we do, we have no idea whatsoever. But it is really dependent on if we retire, how much money we've got to be able to do it.","start_word":2804,"end_word":3085,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05615664712080719},{"text":"Okay. I have to tell you, the Canning Stock Route is beautiful, and you should definitely add that to your bucket list.","start_word":3086,"end_word":3107,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7898263931274414},{"text":"Okay. Alright. It's on. And then we wanna go fishing and travel Italy, Australia, and you wanna just Yes. take it slow.","start_word":3108,"end_word":3129,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.14684902131557465},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":3130,"end_word":3130,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.48411938548088074},{"text":"Yeah. We still have the caravan in Nudgee. Yep. Perfect. And do we know what the caravan's value is? Like, what it's worth? About $4,000. Now it's worth about nothing. She's worth nothing because we haven't been up there for two to three years. That's okay. Would we need a new caravan to do what we wanna do, Yeah. or are We we would. We would. yeah. The old girl is 1962 vintage caravan, and there's no way would it get around Australia, not even from Mudgee to Newcastle. So, Fair. yes, definitely definitely a new kind of van for sure. Okay. So new caravan. And those things can go for 50 to 100 to 200. So Correct. what kind of what kind of Oh, look. bracket Cheaper are we looking rather at? than yeah. You're looking about 80 to a 100. Yeah. A to a 100.","start_word":3131,"end_word":3277,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.01988379843533039},{"text":"Fantastic.","start_word":3278,"end_word":3278,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.43668270111083984},{"text":"Yep. Asset wise, where are we sitting with the property's value and loans left? You the the Sydney one, 1.4 in value and about 4 to $4.50 owing? Yep. Give me five seconds, and I'll tell you what it is. I'm just quickly logging in. Woman after my own heart. Hang on. Just thinking. Here we go. Right. So for our own residence, 355,000 owing on it. And the Glenfield investment, 5 459,000 on it. Cool. So Glenfield is the 1.4 value with $4.59. And Yep. then our p PPR, do you know what the rough value of the PPR is? Not that really Primary residence. yeah. Primary It is residence. I think it was 1.4 as well when One point I four. looked. Perfect. I'll double check while you're talking. And then we have the Ampol shares. Do you know what the share agreement is with those shares? Do you have any specific buyout with them? If you cease working, they take them back. No. They don't. If I cease working with them, whatever I own at that time because while I'm working for them, there is a preservation on them for three years. Okay. As soon Yep. as I stop working for them, the preservation is removed, and I can sell them. Okay.","start_word":3279,"end_word":3493,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04582345703140248},{"text":"Perfect. Good.","start_word":3494,"end_word":3495,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4121742844581604},{"text":"Now you're gonna ask me, I've got on here. I haven't got a clue. I was going to. Yes. There is a clue. There'd be 25 to $30,000 worth. Okay. Somewhere in that vicinity. Maybe a month or I don't know. No. That's okay. When I send an email through to you for with the budget planner, I'll get you to pop in this, like, the share the last share statement that you have from them. Yeah. John might have that one. He will. It'll be somewhere in the email. Yeah. No. So the accountant might have all of that. That that actually have come through end of financial year. Okay. What Yeah. you followed and what debited is you're being paid comes through in your group's certificate. Okay. Yeah. Just to let you know, the range of our residents is only got the 2 figures, but low range 1.3 to high range 1.6. Okay. Split the difference and we'll Yep. call it somewhere in the vicinity of 1.45. Yep. Other assets, motorbikes, boats Yeah. All of them. Two bikes, two boats, two cars, perfect. Are we four four hundred and fifty fishing rods, 16 sets of golf clubs. That's just today with you. that Don't sounds fall. about Don't. right. Do we wanna keep the motorbikes? We wanna keep the two boats. No. Do Only we wanna one boat. Only one boat, one car, one bike. And leaving the parking won't go. okay. One will go. What The other one. what are the value of both of the motorbikes? What are the value of most of the boats? The one boat's worth about 55,000. The other boat's worth about 8,000. I'm assuming One boat we're selling selling the 8,000? yeah. Cool. One bike, I couldn't tell you a price on it because of the collector's item. There's only 200 ever made, and it's the only one sitting in Australia at the moment. They're still Yep. rideable. The other one is worth about 10,000. I couldn't tell you the other one. I have to go on a specialist market channel or somewhere to find Yeah. a price. Completely fair. If it's that kind of item, then, yeah, we could be looking at 100 hundreds. Yeah. Oh, no. I just ran about between 30 and 50. I've seen them go for in America. They're going Okay. for it, and that's 30 to 50,000 Australian dollars, not US Okay. dollars. Okay.","start_word":3496,"end_word":3904,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.005938566185096803},{"text":"Cool. Good price point.","start_word":3905,"end_word":3908,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4477557837963104},{"text":"And I'm assuming we're are we selling the $10,000 one keeping the Yeah. selected item? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then the cards, what are we driving at the moment? Well, I've gotten this in the virus worth about $1,012,000, and I got a brand new Ranger sitting in the garage worth about 75,070 thousand. I don't know what they're worth. Fair. Yep. That's about ballpark. So I'm assuming we're getting rid of the not Ranger, the Nissan. Yeah. Yep. Because the Ranger's gonna tow the caravan. No. Yep. Cool. So we can liquidate some of the assets, which will give us a cash injection for a little bit, which is good. Let's not obviously, we're not moving anything too too quickly, and and assets still take time to sell. Yep. So that's okay. Our home, we still wanna keep. That is correct. And I have I have that written in my notes that we didn't wanna sell the house. I just want to make sure that I'm not misinterpreting that. If we end up staying here, so be it. But, ideally, we would like at the moment, we live in a two story and we live upstairs. Yeah. If we're impractical, we should really move to a one story house. We don't really wanna downsize too much. It'd Okay. be same same, but just one story, not two. Okay. So, Alright. therefore, it probably would be the same amount of money if we did sell and rebuy. Okay. Alright. That's okay. Would we downsize a little bit with the intention of maybe being able to knock over the loss of the loan and Yep. buy another house Yeah. We with don't the need a proceeds? five bedroom home. We've got a three bedroom home, I think. Okay. Alright. That's okay. Alright. So it's a possibility that we could probably, like, knock over the PPR loan with the with a little bit of a downsize, but nothing Yep. too drastic. We're we're not going to a unit. No. It's not. We wanna garden.","start_word":3909,"end_word":4250,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0238572585114621},{"text":"We wanna still mow and frolic and enjoy the roses.","start_word":4251,"end_word":4260,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5573467016220093},{"text":"Yep.","start_word":4261,"end_word":4261,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2628735601902008},{"text":"Definitely. Okay. Gives me a good scope just to make sure that I'm on the same page as you.","start_word":4262,"end_word":4280,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.38361856341362},{"text":"Yeah. Okay. Alright. So outside of that, the biggest thing we wanna do is we wanna make sure that we've got a good scope on what our costs are in relation to the upkeep of our home, Yeah. in relation to what we're spending on groceries, what we're spending on fuel, all that kind of stuff. So I'll send through a budget. Put down what you're currently spending. Yep.","start_word":4281,"end_word":4349,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04990096762776375},{"text":"I I will gross up or get rid of anything that's not relevant.","start_word":4350,"end_word":4362,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.49584364891052246},{"text":"Obviously, you're running two cars right now. Put both of the car registrations on there. I will Yep. obviously halve it based on the fact that we're gonna get rid of one car, we're gonna get rid of one bike, we're gonna get rid of one of the Yep. boats. Put all of those things down, and I will get rid of what is not relevant Yep. when we retire based on, you know, what you guys are willing to sell, whether we need to sell it or not. It's just giving us basically a scope of where things fit. It also gives me a good understanding, I guess, as to what we really need when we retire because there's always, I want a $100,000. Right? You know? I think I need $50,000 worth of an income. And then when you start writing down the figures, it really comes into fruition what you're actually spending and what is Yeah. realistic based on the lifestyle that you currently live. Yep. And that's gonna give me the the true scope of what our draw downs look like, when we're gonna be able to access Centrelink if we're gonna be able to access Centrelink. Obviously, not right now when you have the investment property, but if we liquidate Yep. the investment property, what does that look like for us long term? And that's gonna give us a scale of that. If you are able to send through the tax return for last last financial year, it's fine Okay. for both of you. I know that we're 12 down the line, and as you said, the like, there's been a few changes to, you know, the increase in the investment property rent and stuff like that. It'll just give me a good basis for what the investment property was doing last financial year. So that way, I can have a look and see whether it's positively or negatively geared and make sure I'm including that in our budget. Because if we keep it and it's still positive, negative, neutral, whatever this position is on that property, we need to consider Yeah. the expenses for you guys because that's you're not gonna have an income to be able to put into that property anymore. We're gonna need to basically draw down on whatever assets we have to make sure that we're upkeeping that property. Yep. If it if it's if it if it is positively geared, then we we're sitting pretty, but we need to make sure that we're sitting okay with that. Yep. The only other alternative if you don't wanna send me last financial years is we wait a couple of months till you do the financial years Yeah. accounting, If we do and you if send me that. yeah. If we do this one for 2526, The house was very well. We had to, like, get the tenant out because of the damage that we caused. So the house was vacant for four or five months while renos were going on, Yeah. and new tenants were put in.","start_word":4363,"end_word":4878,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.00605301464485481},{"text":"So there was a bit of a a fairly big loss there, a lot. 15,000 of income that was lost for no rents coming in Yeah.","start_word":4879,"end_word":4904,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.43932488560676575},{"text":"Velocity for 20 expenses five. to get everything fixed. Yeah. Yeah. Plus the expenses to get back on track for someone else to move in, which is another 20. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so so go last financial year for four to four to Yep. five. Fine. Well, five to six hours. Yeah. Yeah. Go Four go five. to last. Find it. Yep. That'll that's fine.","start_word":4905,"end_word":4970,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.02318588085472584},{"text":"It'll give me a good basis of everything.","start_word":4971,"end_word":4978,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3888859748840332},{"text":"And as you said, it's $7.60 that you're getting paid per week, so I can just that's math. That's that's easy for me Yep. to do the math on that. And I can work out what your agent's being paid as a percentage and increase that based on the percentage of income. Yep. So I can work through all of those figures We and had to work change out the that. agent. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. We changed the agent as well because the agent that What we've are you had doing to me? the the agent we had wasn't really keeping up to date with what was going on, and they were just copy and pasting the the inspections. And when both the term termite man went in, he showed me pictures and go, that's not what the real estate sent three three weeks ago. So very, very different. So, yeah, things got moved very quickly to get them out. Yeah. Fair. That's Then we okay. got a new new Generally agent. generally, the ages are pretty competitive within the same area. Yeah. Yep. Like, if I if I turn around, I I would say that Queensland's average rental management fee is 7.5%. I know that because I've done a lot of rental properties in Queensland lately. Yeah. I I'm fine. I could definitely look it up for New South Wales. That's easy enough, but I can I can base it on what your other real estate agent was charging? Yeah. Yeah. I think we've got a statement somewhere Oh, from this way tonight. They're about, you know, 4 and a half or 5, something like that anyway. way cheaper.","start_word":4979,"end_word":5258,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.044433702994138},{"text":"I love that.","start_word":5259,"end_word":5261,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6967053413391113},{"text":"Yes. I already checked again. And that'll give me a good in a a a good understanding because I I know our incomes, you know, with Helen sitting sort of around 80 k and and you're sitting 6 figures. Yeah. So I know that, like, income wise, that's what our incomes are, but we get rid of one of the cars, we get rid of the bike, we get rid of the the boat, that's Yep. gonna reduce our overhead tapes. Yep. And then it's a matter of, I guess, looking at everything else from there. Yep. If I was to ask, like, if we were to live the dream that we wanna live, how long would you guys spend traveling per year? Like, would it be three months out, three months home, three months out again? Probably. Yeah. Probably. We Yeah. need because it'd be traveling down across back again, and back up. Yep. Seeing grand seeing family, seeing other bits, and then coming back to seeing family, and possibly family flying out while we're out, but it would not be too long. It will be, like, twelve months at a time, though. No. Yeah. Just decent enough trips that you can go and see a decent amount, but you get to come home, rest your Yep. laurels, and and and reset. Sorry about that. No. Do not apologize for the barking. No. We're we're we're doggy sitting our son's dog. That is okay.","start_word":5262,"end_word":5506,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07142696903676403},{"text":"Absolutely okay.","start_word":5507,"end_word":5508,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3570891320705414},{"text":"Cool. Oh, So yes? so it's gonna say I've sent you a copy of the revenue and customs letter. I sent it Perfect. directly to the your email, not through Oakview. No. That's okay. And I'll do the same with our two tax returns for 2025.","start_word":5509,"end_word":5554,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.11581873148679732},{"text":"God. I love you guys. Perfect.","start_word":5555,"end_word":5560,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6790147423744202},{"text":"I was like, I'll send you an email, and you're like, no. I've got it. I've sent it to you already.","start_word":5561,"end_word":5581,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2634408175945282},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":5582,"end_word":5582,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34122633934020996},{"text":"Alright. Well, that's those things. I'll send you a budget. I think that's pretty much the everything that I can think of right now. No. Paul's I mean, it's it's semantics really, but Paul's hub twenty four account is connected to his work email address, which is paul@ampollsomethingsomething something, Yeah. That's not changed. phobs@ampoll.com.hick.au. Do you want me to get that updated now to move to your personal email address? So that way, when We've we do actually get got to the we've actually got letters we've gotta send back after we filled in because Helen requested them. How long ago? Last week? So I sent an email couple of weeks ago, maybe two, three weeks ago with all our new details. Yes. And we've had letters in the post that arrived yesterday. So we've just can we confirm all our new details? So Perfect. we'll send those back to you. But, yes, please. If you wouldn't mind changing Paul's work phone, that'd be great. Good. I believe because Caden sent them through. I believe that that has the Yeah. the request for yeah. I'll I'll I'll change it in our system if it hasn't already, but I know that the hub Okay. twenty four account is connected to the work email address Yep. with which which I definitely need to make sure is is changed. Yeah. Nothing.","start_word":5583,"end_word":5810,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07217384789857947},{"text":"Thank you. That's okay.","start_word":5811,"end_word":5814,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3784621059894562},{"text":"Outside of that, yeah, it's just it's just I guess the budget's gonna give me a really good understanding. Unless do you guys have, I guess, a ballpark figure that you think it's always fun kind of finding out this answer. Do you have a ballpark figure that you think is suitable to have as an income for you? I have no idea. I'll be perfectly No.","start_word":5815,"end_word":5881,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.01757758855819702},{"text":"That's honest.","start_word":5882,"end_word":5883,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.33881431818008423},{"text":"fair.","start_word":5884,"end_word":5884,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.23106186091899872},{"text":"Absolutely no idea whatsoever.","start_word":5885,"end_word":5888,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4267716109752655},{"text":"Well, because right. Depending Paul is in the sky, but my it's just mine's very basic. Yeah. But is it we don't know because, generally, medical bills are gonna be because you don't get the card because Yep. you're still very young. You're not 67, so you're still gonna pay for your medical bills, medications. Fuel bills Correct. will be down because you won't be traveling so much, back to the falls to work, maintenance of the cars, that sort of thing. Then we start traveling and the fuel bill goes up. Then just traveling fuel bill goes up. Yeah. Yeah. But just remember, I don't drive, so this is what this will be your expense. Just because you don't drive doesn't mean it's not our expense. You sit in the car too. We don't know. Don't know. No. That's that's okay. It's it's always just kind of, I guess, a fun exercise. You know, do you know what you need? And then Yeah. I start running running the figures and and using, like, the actual analytical data, and the numbers Yep. never add up. But it's always No. kind of That's fun I to shock value. I don't know what the rates are here. I don't know what she pays for that. Crucially, I don't know what she pays for the water. So I have no idea on those because Helen looks Yeah. after that. I just pay the mortgage. Yeah.","start_word":5889,"end_word":6130,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.060279704907462615},{"text":"And and that's where the budget will come in in handy Yep. because it'll open up what the actual expenses are for the household a lot more for you both, Correct. Become a little bit more transparent. So I will email that to you tonight so you can go and fill everything out, and and then I'll start running the figures.","start_word":6131,"end_word":6191,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.45555204153060913},{"text":"I will I've already opened your email, Helen, and Okay. I mean, I've opened your email. That's all I've done. So so I can have a look at at the forms. So I will I'll have a look at that from there and and get an answer to you by tomorrow. And then I'll need probably two or three weeks to put all of the information together based on what we're talking about. So it's not just gonna Yeah. be a really quick quick turnaround for everything. I just need a little bit of time to be able to put everything together and, obviously, consider all of the variables, income, the drawdowns, side of things. That's the one question I had. Sorry. I've hacked it in my brain while I was listening to you guys talk. Long service leave for both of you or annual leave accrual. Do we know where things sit? Mhmm. So because I had to take, basically, five and a half months long service leave, but I was approving leave while I was away. Away. Yep. I don't know what it is off the top of my head. I can't find out. I I think I've still got a couple of months extended leave, Okay. long service leave. Paul, I don't know. Cool. Last time I looked, I hadn't oh, it's like close to five and a half months. Okay. Just just because it it gives me an idea as to what, like, what you're gonna get paid out. Because if I if I turn around and I put a strategy together and implement it, then, obviously, your work pays you out this massive lump sum, I wanna Well, make sure what that I we're what I planning. was gonna do with work, if or we're actually gonna throw the ball throw throw a bit of a curve ball, Take long Yeah. shirts, leave a half pay. Yeah. If we if you're comfortable to fund it. Yeah. Yeah. Because what happens then, it extends it out to God knows how long into the new financial year at It will. less income. I then secure more annual leave while it's doing that. So it could take me through to the end of '26 financial '27 financial year. '27 financial year. Yeah. Well, five five and a half months, if you're paying it half pay, takes you through pretty much the full year. And then with any of your annual leave, that'll carry you through again. Yeah. Yeah. So when you start 2728, there's no income stream as such, Yeah. and Absolutely.","start_word":6192,"end_word":6625,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0453736924218692},{"text":"the tax bracket drops right down.","start_word":6626,"end_word":6631,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4436374604701996},{"text":"It yeah. It will. It'll definitely knock Yes. right Yes. down. Yeah. And and Rob. I definitely because of both of your incomes and depending on Yep. how many how many weeks we have, I definitely don't recommend just turning around being like, I quit by Yeah. because the payout and the tax on that's gonna Yes.","start_word":6632,"end_word":6688,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1839536279439926},{"text":"absolutely suck right now.","start_word":6689,"end_word":6692,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.7349284291267395},{"text":"If we're gonna Yep. do it, we definitely wait until we roll into the new financial year and then just get paid out a lump sum. Because, like, realistically, whether you get paid out a lump sum from your employer, say, the second Yep. of July, Yep. so in, like, in, you know, a month and a month and a week, or get paid out incrementally across the annum. It's not really any difference tax wise because you've earned the same amount across the year. It's just depending Yep. on whether you want it income stream wise or whether we get it paid out as a lump sum, you know, pop it into superannuation fund or pop it into whatever avenue in investment account or Yeah. something like that, and But just there's slowly draw down on it? yeah. But there's also the part because while you're on long service leave, you're still occurring You annually. do. Correct. Yes. Like, Very, there's not very there's much. a little bit there's another little bit cherry at the end of it. There is. There's that an extra little bit of of Yeah. of leave accrual. Yeah. And, like, the the leaves, obviously, at half pay, you get half leave accrual, but it's Yes.","start_word":6693,"end_word":6903,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.032439621951060274},{"text":"yeah. It it it can definitely be advantageous.","start_word":6904,"end_word":6911,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5008503794670105},{"text":"And with that amount of time, like, we're not dealing with, you know, a couple of months. We're dealing with, basically, an extended period. So it it would be beneficial to have it paid out more Yep. so incrementally because of that. But I'll still run the numbers on both both sides. Yep. But Okay. realistically speaking, it's probably gonna be better to have the income stream coming from them anyway. Yeah. That Okay. means you know what you have, and there's no temptation to touch the lump sum money sitting in the account. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but had to touch some of that for the dental work, which Yeah. had to be done. But Helen did Helen's actually written teeth claiming on super. I said it doesn't make where where it comes from, you still gotta pay for it somehow. You sure do. You definitely Yeah. I know. do have to pay for it somehow. Yep. Can I ask savings? That's the one thing we haven't touched on. Savings Yep. account. It's What about are we sitting $202.70. 270,000. Yeah. Cool. Alright. Yeah. We had to take some money out for my my family over in Cyprus who's pulling on a bit of a hard time, plus my dental work and a few other bits and pieces. Yep. Not No. we wanted to, but it was a case of having to. No. That's okay. Alright.","start_word":6912,"end_word":7147,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.039113561496517416},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":7148,"end_word":7148,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.412056028842926},{"text":"Well, I'm gonna I will get you this email, and I will get the budget to you. If you're able to just get me a leave balance for both Yeah. of you Yeah. and then sit down and fill out the budget. Once you get everything back to me, I will sit down, collate everything, and start planning. And, yeah, if I get two or three weeks to get everything done, and I'll sit down and we will go through it from start Yep. to finish, Beautiful.","start_word":7149,"end_word":7235,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1585756093263626},{"text":"get a plan together on what everything looks like.","start_word":7236,"end_word":7244,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4077989459037781},{"text":"Yep. Nothing's gonna be implemented till next financial year. I can tell you that. No. No. That's fine. That's fine. That was it's either this next one entry or the one after. See how we Yeah. go. Yeah. But the the, like, the initial stages, we're not gonna we're not gonna do anything until next financial No. year. No.","start_word":7245,"end_word":7303,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04723675549030304},{"text":"No. It's it's it's makes no common sense. No sense doing that whatsoever.","start_word":7304,"end_word":7316,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3899959623813629},{"text":"Yeah. Can I just quickly confirm what are our actual pay incomes right this second, though? Or I Mine's mean one because I got a pay increase in April. I think I want about a 128 or a 126. But Yep. I'm sorry. That is as it was pointed out to me by someone, that includes my super as well. Yep. That is not your total pay. Your total pay is a lot less than that. So you're Yes. about 100,000. So yeah. So it's about 100 my total or OTE is about 100 and then the soup on top of that, whatever it is. Yep. Cool. Alright. That's fine. And what? Mine, I have no idea. I think it's last time I I think it's about 82, 83, I think. Perfect. Okay. I have That's sent you through the returns, by the way, as well.","start_word":7317,"end_word":7462,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.014384785667061806},{"text":"I really do like you guys so much.","start_word":7463,"end_word":7470,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5646729469299316},{"text":"No.","start_word":7471,"end_word":7471,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.046694494783878326},{"text":"I feel lazy for not having emailed you back.","start_word":7472,"end_word":7480,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.658074676990509},{"text":"Okay.","start_word":7481,"end_word":7481,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.17668631672859192},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":7482,"end_word":7482,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34595322608947754},{"text":"I will get you that. I'll get you an email, and do me a favor. If you can both pop a payslip in, the last payslip, Yes. and then just confirm the hours you guys have. Just I just wanna check your incomes properly, but I'm rolling up all the figures. So payslip, the leave accrual Yep. that you both have, and I'll attach the budget. Alright? Okay. We'll get it.","start_word":7483,"end_word":7553,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1290656179189682},{"text":"Thank you ever so much for that, Larissa.","start_word":7554,"end_word":7561,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.600091814994812},{"text":"No, please. Not at all. Did I you have I any better say of I better yeah.","start_word":7562,"end_word":7578,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.10275407135486604},{"text":"say thank you for Helen for getting doing multitasking, sending emails while we're talking as well. She did well. Very well. Very well. Very well.","start_word":7579,"end_word":7603,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4444368779659271},{"text":"Not Did a problem. you guys did you have any other questions while I had you on the phone at all? I don't think the only thing I did come to mind is when we went to the accountant, we had to do three, four years tax. So it was a a long process. But, anyway, it's all done. It's now up to date. But he did make a comment that it was very, very prudent and wise of me now I don't know what the terminology is. What did we do with my super? We took it out of the side of the house in Sydney and paid it into your we had went back five years and just paid it off. Yes. And he said that saved us a massive credit tax bill by you advising us to do that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The the carry forward concessional contributions. Yes. Yeah. That's it. So he said no.","start_word":7604,"end_word":7762,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03875553980469704},{"text":"It was a really good thing that we did, but he's more than happy to talk to you about anything if you want.","start_word":7763,"end_word":7785,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34962451457977295},{"text":"Yes. Yes. That was the issue with the last one we had. He wouldn't talk to him. Yeah. The the last accountant we had before this was absolute nightmare, but this accountant, we've known twenty years ago, but we've gone back to him. And he said he's more than happy to talk to yourself if there's anything that you need to know or if Cool. he cannot work with you on anything.","start_word":7786,"end_word":7857,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.08155622395376365},{"text":"Absolutely. Perfect. Alright.","start_word":7858,"end_word":7860,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.48503926396369934},{"text":"Oh, His yeah. details are in the tax returns.","start_word":7861,"end_word":7869,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.19670569896698},{"text":"So Perfect.","start_word":7870,"end_word":7871,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.502469003200531},{"text":"I'll, yeah, I'll reach out to him if I if I do run into any any questions or issues. I'll, I'll flick an email through. I'll cc you in, okay.","start_word":7872,"end_word":7901,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.26042070984840393},{"text":"Cool. and I'll sit down and just start playing with everything at one go. Alright. That's awesome. Thank you ever so much, and I hope you have a good rest of your evening. And, yeah, enjoy the time with your with your family.","start_word":7902,"end_word":7944,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6938762068748474},{"text":"Yeah. I will. I'm gonna go home for some cuddles, I think. Yeah. I think That's so, probably too. my place in life for the evening.","start_word":7945,"end_word":7970,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23651327192783356},{"text":"Alright. Thank you so much for your time, Melissa. That's okay, my darlings. I will talk to you soon. Thank you very much. Thank you.","start_word":7971,"end_word":7995,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6809415221214294},{"text":"Bye. Bye. Bye.","start_word":7996,"end_word":7998,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2315027266740799}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.020644709850237537}}}}