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I I had to do it again. I'm just just because I I honestly I was mainly surprised that the a plus that we got wasn't more than what it was. And so I was like, surely that bigger number, but it's it's largely just because the flow is so big. And I think that's the only reason why the APLAC like, the the sorry. This was compared against the 1% level. And, yeah, so, yeah, honestly, it makes sense to it it makes sense that it wasn't that bad, clearly, because it's the 1% is so much higher. So that's right. That's right. But in the Yeah. But in the smaller event, like, I mean, not that we could have tested the smaller even smaller than what we got, but there was no way we're getting the I mean oh, yeah. Now knowing yeah. Looking at that compared to the small I'm sure a smaller event would look pretty catastrophic. Yeah. Yeah. So I also did another check for the 1%, and with the new eight plus so with the not new, but with the zero zero five, basically, all downstream from the from that massive levy that they essentially built for the road is impacted, which makes sense again. Right? And then we expect that. We expected that because it's it's such a big house. It's it's so high. So yeah. And then the the conversely, the the property on the downstream side is is a lot less flood prone because of the what happened. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's gonna help someone out. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So I don't even know how we compensate for that much storage life. But, like, unless they level everything they've done, I'm not I I think, like I mean, it's up to you. It's it's obviously the same way what they decide in terms of whether or not we're gonna try and fix it for conveyance purposes or for flood storage purposes. Because I think for conveyance, we might be able to do a few things like you're saying with COVID and things. But in terms of flood storage, I I genuinely unless you tell them to cut tapes, I'm not I don't really I don't know what to do with that. I can it's a it's a big number. It's a big number. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. That's alright. Yeah. I'm I'm not gonna be a laugh at you, but that's yeah. I've been labeling support. The the the these neighbors, the the two women seem to be really lovely, but I'm not sure how badly the other guy put people off. It sounds like not great. No. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I mean, they could lower that track by half a meter and still barely make a difference to their farm. I don't know why they built it so big. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Probably. Okay. So my next step is me telling them what like, that what we just spoke about, which is essentially this the there's a massive difference. We're gonna need you to demonstrate how we can fix it. First of all, we need to, I guess, get a bit more of a baseline. So I probably need to provide you a map with the zero zero five impact so that you can always see what we're starting to deal with. And then so, yeah, get get probably go back to them and say that it's gonna be an iterative process like that. Because I don't even know how I could quote how we're gonna fix this, so I feel like it's gonna be we're trying to you know? And and so I guess the the import one of the the important things is in terms of the smaller events, because I think, honestly, the smaller events are probably gonna dictate everything, honestly, Gavin. Like, I I reckon if if we if we are gonna model them, they're gonna look horrible. So understanding what you what your perspective is of do we because, yeah, like I said, we haven't got anything lower than what I've modeled, but do we check do we just say this is approximately what it would be and then just go with that or, like, what which one which one are we trying to assess against? Because I think if we're assessing it as the 1%, then I think there's things that we could do in in terms of conveyance. Storage, again, completely different, but in terms of conveyance for the 1%, I think we can do stuff. But when we start talking about variance, if we if we if we're talking about, like, smaller and smaller events, what how low are we going to mitigate for? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So maybe a plus for every event then. What do you think? Like, I feel like it was for every event that we that we've got data for, essentially. Like, that's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I can cut it. I can cut that track out heaps. Yeah. That that would not be a hard thing to model. Oh, yeah. Even from the at after that, you can tell. It's the thing. It's like it it as soon as you see the off off started back, it basically hits it, and then everything else is impacted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, I think they have the money. Based on what I when I was first talking, like, I I'm fairly like, maybe it's not it's a bit locked away because apparently legal things, but they they are there's they've they've already got not my expense of what the work they've done. So, you know, yeah. I think that and and they're gonna need to they're gonna need to pay for it. And and I I feel sorry for the two, but if they are, it's it's it's it's so much work. It's so much work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally fair. Yeah. Totally fair. And yeah. I I don't know. I feel like there should be probably I don't know. Like, I I don't mean to be bad mouthing them, but I feel like there should have been EPA potentially checks for it because the amount of runoff that would have gone directly into that the Tribe River, being a priority river as well, it's pretty sad. It's pretty it's it's not great. It's pretty bad. Yeah. It it makes me pretty annoyed, to be honest. Like, it's not a it's not a it's not what you want. And, you know, I mean, yeah, we we we're trying to work with them. We're trying to get the best solution. But, realistically, they've they've made it pretty like, not them themselves, but the person who ordered it has made a pretty terrible job. They've done a pretty terrible job, and that doesn't mean just because they they have taken it up doesn't mean it doesn't discount the fact that it's a it's that that it shouldn't have been done, and it's not a good job. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It leave limits everything. Yeah. I completely agree. I completely I mean, I I I kinda wish that just to make it a little bit, but at the same time, like you said, it's just you you don't start you you basically giving up on the chance of it getting fixed, and and it'll just become a legal battle for ages, and then, you know, nothing happens. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Great. Okay. Awesome. So next stage, I'll contact them, give them the results, give tell them that, you know, we're we're gonna work together and try and figure out how we can how we can develop a plan. And it's it's it's it's gonna be an iterative, I guess, process. And hopefully yeah. And then so get them to get get the go ahead, and then we can start chatting a bit more and figure out what we can do. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Alright. I'll I'll I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Yeah. Thanks, Gavin. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Definitely. Yeah. So we we would we would figure out the flow that would get through it and then try to design it so that whatever flow can be it could be protected. And yeah. Because I guess most like, if if if there's an existing Mhmm. Call that then usually it's a little bit easy because if they just make it a little bit better than you find. So if they have if it's a new call that then we'd wanna know you'd you'd wanna see that that what how much water is coming through it. So we we figure out the flow, and then we do, like, a concept design for construction. And and we wouldn't do the construction itself, but we'd we'd consult on it and tell you, you know, where where you probably wanna put it. Yeah. Yeah. Look. I'd love to get out into farming into farming a bit more, especially considering I I've noticed I mean, if there's gonna be especially with our farm zone saying, you know, you can't change the rate or point of discharge. Like, in in VCAT, it's gonna start going crazy with those things, and I reckon it it'd be it'd be negligible to farmers not to check if they're doing some work, especially yeah. I I can just see it happening a lot more. So, yeah, no. I I'd love to help with those ones more often. And, yeah, look. Honestly, like, what it takes to Aplex with with consulting and stuff. I I do pretty much the exact same thing. I just I'm just a much smaller scale and and oh, sorry. Much smaller team and don't really yeah. But they they they can take all the big studies, and I typically like to do the one on one ones a bit more. Thank you. I really appreciate that. That that's really kind. Thank you. That's yeah. That'd be Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And and I'm I'm always looking for smaller natures that aren't because those ones, the bigger guys probably aren't that keen on purely because they don't make enough money from them, but I prefer them. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Brilliant. That that'd be yes. Brilliant. Okay. Well, I'll let you know when I was supposed to send them an email, and then we can we can figure out what what we're gonna do. Easy. Thanks, Gavin. Alright. Have a good weekend. 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Gavin. How are you? Good. Yeah. Sorry.\n\nI took a bit longer. I was just trying to find the funny thing in the first place. When I first did the comparison, I wasn't I was surprised. Sorry. I I had to do it again.\n\nI'm just just because I I honestly I was mainly surprised that the a plus that we got wasn't more than what it was. And so I was like, surely that bigger number, but it's it's largely just because the flow is so big. And I think that's the only reason why the APLAC like, the the sorry. This was compared against the 1% level. And, yeah, so, yeah, honestly, it makes sense to it it makes sense that it wasn't that bad, clearly, because it's the 1% is so much higher.\n\nSo that's right. That's right. But in the Yeah. But in the smaller event, like, I mean, not that we could have tested the smaller even smaller than what we got, but there was no way we're getting the I mean oh, yeah. Now knowing yeah.\n\nLooking at that compared to the small I'm sure a smaller event would look pretty catastrophic. Yeah. Yeah. So I also did another check for the 1%, and with the new eight plus so with the not new, but with the zero zero five, basically, all downstream from the from that massive levy that they essentially built for the road is impacted, which makes sense again. Right?\n\nAnd then we expect that. We expected that because it's it's such a big house. It's it's so high. So yeah. And then the the conversely, the the property on the downstream side is is a lot less flood prone because of the what happened.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.\n\nIt's gonna help someone out. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYes. Yeah. So I don't even know how we compensate for that much storage life. But, like, unless they level everything they've done, I'm not I I think, like I mean, it's up to you. It's it's obviously the same way what they decide in terms of whether or not we're gonna try and fix it for conveyance purposes or for flood storage purposes.\n\nBecause I think for conveyance, we might be able to do a few things like you're saying with COVID and things. But in terms of flood storage, I I genuinely unless you tell them to cut tapes, I'm not I don't really I don't know what to do with that. I can it's a it's a big number. It's a big number. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah.\n\nOkay. That's alright. Yeah. I'm I'm not gonna be a laugh at you, but that's yeah. I've been labeling support.\n\nThe the the these neighbors, the the two women seem to be really lovely, but I'm not sure how badly the other guy put people off. It sounds like not great. No. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nOkay. So Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yep. Yeah. I mean, they could lower that track by half a meter and still barely make a difference to their farm. I don't know why they built it so big.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Probably.\n\nOkay. So my next step is me telling them what like, that what we just spoke about, which is essentially this the there's a massive difference. We're gonna need you to demonstrate how we can fix it. First of all, we need to, I guess, get a bit more of a baseline. So I probably need to provide you a map with the zero zero five impact so that you can always see what we're starting to deal with.\n\nAnd then so, yeah, get get probably go back to them and say that it's gonna be an iterative process like that. Because I don't even know how I could quote how we're gonna fix this, so I feel like it's gonna be we're trying to you know? And and so I guess the the import one of the the important things is in terms of the smaller events, because I think, honestly, the smaller events are probably gonna dictate everything, honestly, Gavin. Like, I I reckon if if we if we are gonna model them, they're gonna look horrible. So understanding what you what your perspective is of do we because, yeah, like I said, we haven't got anything lower than what I've modeled, but do we check do we just say this is approximately what it would be and then just go with that or, like, what which one which one are we trying to assess against?\n\nBecause I think if we're assessing it as the 1%, then I think there's things that we could do in in terms of conveyance. Storage, again, completely different, but in terms of conveyance for the 1%, I think we can do stuff. But when we start talking about variance, if we if we if we're talking about, like, smaller and smaller events, what how low are we going to mitigate for? Yeah. Yep.\n\nYeah. So maybe a plus for every event then. What do you think? Like, I feel like it was for every event that we that we've got data for, essentially. Like, that's yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nOh, yeah. I can cut it. I can cut that track out heaps. Yeah. That that would not be a hard thing to model.\n\nOh, yeah. Even from the at after that, you can tell. It's the thing. It's like it it as soon as you see the off off started back, it basically hits it, and then everything else is impacted. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nAnd, I mean, I think they have the money. Based on what I when I was first talking, like, I I'm fairly like, maybe it's not it's a bit locked away because apparently legal things, but they they are there's they've they've already got not my expense of what the work they've done. So, you know, yeah. I think that and and they're gonna need to they're gonna need to pay for it. And and I I feel sorry for the two, but if they are, it's it's it's it's so much work.\n\nIt's so much work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nTotally fair. Yeah. Totally fair. And yeah. I I don't know.\n\nI feel like there should be probably I don't know. Like, I I don't mean to be bad mouthing them, but I feel like there should have been EPA potentially checks for it because the amount of runoff that would have gone directly into that the Tribe River, being a priority river as well, it's pretty sad. It's pretty it's it's not great. It's pretty bad. Yeah.\n\nIt it makes me pretty annoyed, to be honest. Like, it's not a it's not a it's not what you want. And, you know, I mean, yeah, we we we're trying to work with them. We're trying to get the best solution. But, realistically, they've they've made it pretty like, not them themselves, but the person who ordered it has made a pretty terrible job.\n\nThey've done a pretty terrible job, and that doesn't mean just because they they have taken it up doesn't mean it doesn't discount the fact that it's a it's that that it shouldn't have been done, and it's not a good job. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Exactly.\n\nYeah. It leave limits everything. Yeah. I completely agree. I completely I mean, I I I kinda wish that just to make it a little bit, but at the same time, like you said, it's just you you don't start you you basically giving up on the chance of it getting fixed, and and it'll just become a legal battle for ages, and then, you know, nothing happens.\n\nYeah. Yep. Yep. Great. Okay.\n\nAwesome. So next stage, I'll contact them, give them the results, give tell them that, you know, we're we're gonna work together and try and figure out how we can how we can develop a plan. And it's it's it's it's gonna be an iterative, I guess, process. And hopefully yeah. And then so get them to get get the go ahead, and then we can start chatting a bit more and figure out what we can do.\n\nYep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nI understand. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Alright.\n\nI'll I'll I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Yeah. Thanks, Gavin. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYes. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Definitely.\n\nYeah. 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How are you going? Not bad, mate. Not bad. Not bad. That's a big number? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's already there. Yeah. That yeah. That's yep. Yep. I I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And that's the thing. I guess that's what we gotta work out next, isn't it? It's like we need to do the modeling to understand how we can mitigate this or where where the flow if it's not staying on there, where is it now going, and what's who's it impacting? And, yeah, how do we get around that pretty much? Yep. Yep. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, Levy. Which is he was it was his design all along, I'm sure. I don't wanna see it on my place. Yeah. Push it around. And so that's where my struggle is. We're gonna find a way to reduce the impact upstream. Right? And and and we've got to show a model or some way of mitigating that and or, you know, what we can what can we do? What the hell can we do in this circumstance to try and mitigate that? Do we lower the levy? Do we, you know, do we put a shit ton of coal that's in there? Like, you know, how do we how do we mitigate that? Do we, yeah, do we have to redesign that area so it returns some of the flood storage? Yeah. And so yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a huge number. I know. It's like I just did I did a couple of quick calculations and worked out how long it would take to dig it out. And then and then once again, if you make a dam, it's gonna be full anyway because I'll utilize it as part of the farm. And then the next slide that comes across it down before you can't even utilize that. Do you know what I mean? That's like so that's not gonna work. So I've I've gone through a few things in my head, like, quickly going, how could you, what could you, you know, and because yeah. Nothing nothing really stacks up around the flood storage. So I'm kind of in that mode of, yeah, we're not gonna be able to replace it all, but what do we do to mitigate the impact upstream around it or the conveyance or at least understand where it's going and then get get some either neighborly support to say, yeah. Well, it's okay. We don't care. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think they're all friends. That's right. Exactly. And that that look. That might change. I don't know. Like, I said, unless we have a crack and the and like I've I've I feel for you at this point in time because I I know this is more work for you and and them, and it's probably a cost implication. So I I don't know how you're gonna how you work that out, but that's we really need more info. Let's get for us to be able to support anything and support the planning permit application and everything else. So look, like, I wanna get to an outcome, and I wanna be able to support them. But whether we all need to have a round table about how we do this or or not. But I think to be fair, they need to understand exactly how much has been modified so that and then we go, okay. How do we what what we know we can't do this, but what if we do this? And we have to model it and show where we can make some improvements and try try and pick up. So and that means, you know, that means lowering the track or that means COVID in the track or, you know, whatever. Like I suggested before by the next door neighbor, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've just had extra they had extra soil there that they were digging in. I don't know. Maybe they brought a whole bunch in. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. They just had it. Yep. Yep. Yes, please. Yep. Yep. Yes. Oh, I know. Yep. Yeah. Yep. So I guess that that comes back to us without seeing the model. It's like where is there gonna be neighborhood where is the neighborhood impact? How how bad is it on their on those impacts? And to see what what they may or may not be comfortable with, like being extra on their land based on the development that's happened. So yeah. And that means that they need to engage and everything else. So I I yeah. I don't yeah. Yeah. Which is I know. That that'll give us a picture. I think that's gonna give us a starting point because like you said, we just don't know until we see it where it's actually gonna impact. And then, you know, doing that and maybe just lowering the track might make a difference. It does lower events. It'll allow it to to flow through. You know? So for me, I agree. I think the track's too high. We rip the track down. That's step one. Get it down to a low point and then because you should you could potentially model that, couldn't you, with the track there, with the track not there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like for me, that's the most obvious thing that everybody can see that is gonna cause a problem. It's like when someone went yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Cool. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. So we we cut that right down, and then maybe that's our first comparison. What's what difference does the track make? And then, okay, the track makes this much difference, then we can live with that or we can get agreement with that, then, you know, that's what that's what the aim is. And that's not that's not too hard for them to achieve given, yeah, everything else. So they've they've got machinery and they've got access to that sort of stuff, I think. So yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. I know. I get it too. I mean, yeah, they don't know. They just don't know. They've walked into this and yeah. And that's that old adage of, you know, just having it going going home and then asking for forgiveness later. Well, that's not gonna fly. I've got I've got to go to sell this in here as well, you know, like, to sell the outcomes. I think I've got a way around for the Crown Land, but this other part of it I need to see, you know, what we can do. So yep. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. Yep. Yep. No. No. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yep. Exactly right. Yeah. No. I totally agree with you. And, like, you know, I think and my issue is I'd rather see it fixed in a way that works than then just having to pay a shitload of money in fines because I won't get it fixed either. So, yeah, if if EPA came in, then that would be regulated, you know, and that's that's that money is lost and the ability for them to actually do some good is gonna be lost as well. So I guess yeah. I'm trying to be a bit pragmatic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to be pragmatic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. And whilst that's going on, you know, people that that it's it's just sitting there waiting for the next bit of water to come down, and then all the neighbors will be grumpy. And they'll all be impacted, and they'll be up for a whole bunch of civil costs as well. So it makes it even harder. Right? So, yeah, I don't wanna stop. I wanna keep going, but I wanna keep going in a practical sense that we can say, well, you need to do this, this, this, and this because these figures show that you've made a huge change. Yeah. So mhmm. Yep. Yep. That's right. And I I need probably to give the Shire or the council to give an update at some point. So once you've had that conversation, can you just send me an email just with a couple of details of what you said and what you can help with? That way, I I wanna try and keep the planning permitting in train for them, but I don't know whether the council that's not out of my remit really. But because council said you got twelve months. You can come back under the same permit over twelve months, then you're gonna have to apply all again. And so they'll shut down. They'll charge them all the fees again and everything else. So I just wanna try and keep it keep it open if you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Thanks, Alex. Appreciate it. Hey. Can I ask you a separate question? Totally not. I'll leave a separate question. I'm getting a lot of interest regarding the MarisLink. I'm not sure whether you've heard about that Tas, Vic, Greenlink cable that's running through. It'll come through to Hazelwood. Yep. Yep. I'm getting a lot of farmer interest. Obviously, they're they're blazing through saying we want land access. We want this. We want that. We're doing this. We're doing that. I'm dealing with that at a higher level, but I've got a lot of customers, a lot of landholders coming to me going, what what what's going on here with waterways, and what can I do? And I need to build it all up with a track, and I need this, and I need that. Is that the sort of work that you would do or consult on design construction for some of these coal works in waterways if farmers have to actually establish a new track or weather track through their property to mitigate what's going on with this marine slings thing. Yeah? Yep. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Good. Yep. No. No. That's all I need. I think design yeah. Just design. Yeah. The A flux stuff, all that, you know, the important design A flux, that's all I'm looking for is just another name to give them with a few others. So I just wanted to make sure that's the sort of stuff that you're you're wanting to do, then you're happy to do it in the area. So Yeah. Yep. Yep. Good. Okay. No. That's cool. I'm just yeah. I'm just trying to build a list of people who I can sort of put down. So this is my Google search for you, but here's all the names that are important that will actually do the job. So yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, yeah, I can't be seen to be favoring anybody, but I just feel like there's needs to be someone in the area, you know, or a couple of people in the area who are actually accessible to these guys because, you know, they don't have a fortune either to spend some of them. And, you know, in in some cases, they'll get they'll get sorted out by managed link and covered. The cost will the cost should be covered anyway because they're making a big change to their operation. But there's I don't want the whole thing to be just this great big price gouging thing. This is crazy. So some practical practical solutions on palm for all weather access and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. There's no margin. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. But if you're in the area, there's margin, I think that's fine too. Yeah. Yeah. So Yep. Great. No worries. That's good on you. Thanks. Appreciate it, mate. Cheers. Bye bye. Bye. Yeah. You too. See you. Bye. 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How are you going? Not bad, mate. Not bad. Not bad.\n\nThat's a big number? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's already there.\n\nYeah. That yeah. That's yep. Yep. I I see what you're saying.\n\nYeah. Yep. Yep. And that's the thing. I guess that's what we gotta work out next, isn't it?\n\nIt's like we need to do the modeling to understand how we can mitigate this or where where the flow if it's not staying on there, where is it now going, and what's who's it impacting? And, yeah, how do we get around that pretty much? Yep. Yep. Yeah.\n\nRight. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nOh, Levy. Which is he was it was his design all along, I'm sure. I don't wanna see it on my place. Yeah. Push it around.\n\nAnd so that's where my struggle is. We're gonna find a way to reduce the impact upstream. Right? And and and we've got to show a model or some way of mitigating that and or, you know, what we can what can we do? What the hell can we do in this circumstance to try and mitigate that?\n\nDo we lower the levy? Do we, you know, do we put a shit ton of coal that's in there? Like, you know, how do we how do we mitigate that? Do we, yeah, do we have to redesign that area so it returns some of the flood storage? Yeah.\n\nAnd so yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. It's a huge number. I know. It's like I just did I did a couple of quick calculations and worked out how long it would take to dig it out. And then and then once again, if you make a dam, it's gonna be full anyway because I'll utilize it as part of the farm.\n\nAnd then the next slide that comes across it down before you can't even utilize that. Do you know what I mean? That's like so that's not gonna work. So I've I've gone through a few things in my head, like, quickly going, how could you, what could you, you know, and because yeah. Nothing nothing really stacks up around the flood storage.\n\nSo I'm kind of in that mode of, yeah, we're not gonna be able to replace it all, but what do we do to mitigate the impact upstream around it or the conveyance or at least understand where it's going and then get get some either neighborly support to say, yeah. Well, it's okay. We don't care. Good luck. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think they're all friends. That's right.\n\nExactly. And that that look. That might change. I don't know. Like, I said, unless we have a crack and the and like I've I've I feel for you at this point in time because I I know this is more work for you and and them, and it's probably a cost implication.\n\nSo I I don't know how you're gonna how you work that out, but that's we really need more info. Let's get for us to be able to support anything and support the planning permit application and everything else. So look, like, I wanna get to an outcome, and I wanna be able to support them. But whether we all need to have a round table about how we do this or or not. But I think to be fair, they need to understand exactly how much has been modified so that and then we go, okay.\n\nHow do we what what we know we can't do this, but what if we do this? And we have to model it and show where we can make some improvements and try try and pick up. So and that means, you know, that means lowering the track or that means COVID in the track or, you know, whatever. Like I suggested before by the next door neighbor, you know. Yeah.\n\nYeah. I think I've just had extra they had extra soil there that they were digging in. I don't know. Maybe they brought a whole bunch in. I don't know.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. They just had it.\n\nYep. Yep. Yes, please. Yep. Yep.\n\nYes. Oh, I know. Yep. Yeah. Yep.\n\nSo I guess that that comes back to us without seeing the model. It's like where is there gonna be neighborhood where is the neighborhood impact? How how bad is it on their on those impacts? And to see what what they may or may not be comfortable with, like being extra on their land based on the development that's happened. So yeah.\n\nAnd that means that they need to engage and everything else. So I I yeah. I don't yeah. Yeah. Which is I know.\n\nThat that'll give us a picture. I think that's gonna give us a starting point because like you said, we just don't know until we see it where it's actually gonna impact. And then, you know, doing that and maybe just lowering the track might make a difference. It does lower events. It'll allow it to to flow through.\n\nYou know? So for me, I agree. I think the track's too high. We rip the track down. That's step one.\n\nGet it down to a low point and then because you should you could potentially model that, couldn't you, with the track there, with the track not there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Because I feel like for me, that's the most obvious thing that everybody can see that is gonna cause a problem. It's like when someone went yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Cool. Yeah. That's right. Exactly.\n\nSo we we cut that right down, and then maybe that's our first comparison. What's what difference does the track make? And then, okay, the track makes this much difference, then we can live with that or we can get agreement with that, then, you know, that's what that's what the aim is. And that's not that's not too hard for them to achieve given, yeah, everything else. So they've they've got machinery and they've got access to that sort of stuff, I think.\n\nSo yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That's right.\n\nExactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. I know. I get it too. I mean, yeah, they don't know. They just don't know.\n\nThey've walked into this and yeah. And that's that old adage of, you know, just having it going going home and then asking for forgiveness later. Well, that's not gonna fly. I've got I've got to go to sell this in here as well, you know, like, to sell the outcomes. I think I've got a way around for the Crown Land, but this other part of it I need to see, you know, what we can do.\n\nSo yep. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. Yep.\n\nYep. No. No. Yeah. Yes.\n\nYep. Yep. Exactly right. Yeah. No.\n\nI totally agree with you. And, like, you know, I think and my issue is I'd rather see it fixed in a way that works than then just having to pay a shitload of money in fines because I won't get it fixed either. So, yeah, if if EPA came in, then that would be regulated, you know, and that's that's that money is lost and the ability for them to actually do some good is gonna be lost as well. So I guess yeah. I'm trying to be a bit pragmatic.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to be pragmatic. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. And whilst that's going on, you know, people that that it's it's just sitting there waiting for the next bit of water to come down, and then all the neighbors will be grumpy.\n\nAnd they'll all be impacted, and they'll be up for a whole bunch of civil costs as well. So it makes it even harder. Right? So, yeah, I don't wanna stop. I wanna keep going, but I wanna keep going in a practical sense that we can say, well, you need to do this, this, this, and this because these figures show that you've made a huge change.\n\nYeah. So mhmm. Yep. Yep. That's right.\n\nAnd I I need probably to give the Shire or the council to give an update at some point. So once you've had that conversation, can you just send me an email just with a couple of details of what you said and what you can help with? That way, I I wanna try and keep the planning permitting in train for them, but I don't know whether the council that's not out of my remit really. But because council said you got twelve months. You can come back under the same permit over twelve months, then you're gonna have to apply all again.\n\nAnd so they'll shut down. They'll charge them all the fees again and everything else. So I just wanna try and keep it keep it open if you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nAlright. Thanks, Alex. Appreciate it. Hey. Can I ask you a separate question?\n\nTotally not. I'll leave a separate question. I'm getting a lot of interest regarding the MarisLink. I'm not sure whether you've heard about that Tas, Vic, Greenlink cable that's running through. It'll come through to Hazelwood.\n\nYep. Yep. I'm getting a lot of farmer interest. Obviously, they're they're blazing through saying we want land access. We want this.\n\nWe want that. We're doing this. We're doing that. I'm dealing with that at a higher level, but I've got a lot of customers, a lot of landholders coming to me going, what what what's going on here with waterways, and what can I do? And I need to build it all up with a track, and I need this, and I need that.\n\nIs that the sort of work that you would do or consult on design construction for some of these coal works in waterways if farmers have to actually establish a new track or weather track through their property to mitigate what's going on with this marine slings thing. Yeah? Yep. Yes. Yep.\n\nYep. Yeah. Good. Yep. No.\n\nNo. That's all I need. I think design yeah. Just design. Yeah.\n\nThe A flux stuff, all that, you know, the important design A flux, that's all I'm looking for is just another name to give them with a few others. So I just wanted to make sure that's the sort of stuff that you're you're wanting to do, then you're happy to do it in the area. So Yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nGood. Okay. No. That's cool. I'm just yeah.\n\nI'm just trying to build a list of people who I can sort of put down. So this is my Google search for you, but here's all the names that are important that will actually do the job. So yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, yeah, I can't be seen to be favoring anybody, but I just feel like there's needs to be someone in the area, you know, or a couple of people in the area who are actually accessible to these guys because, you know, they don't have a fortune either to spend some of them.\n\nAnd, you know, in in some cases, they'll get they'll get sorted out by managed link and covered. The cost will the cost should be covered anyway because they're making a big change to their operation. But there's I don't want the whole thing to be just this great big price gouging thing. This is crazy. So some practical practical solutions on palm for all weather access and things like that.\n\nYeah. Yeah. There's no margin. Yeah. That's right.\n\nExactly. But if you're in the area, there's margin, I think that's fine too. Yeah. Yeah. So Yep.\n\nGreat. No worries. That's good on you. Thanks. Appreciate it, mate.\n\nCheers. Bye bye. Bye. Yeah. You too.\n\nSee you. Bye. 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How are you going?\n\nChannel 0: Good, Gavin. How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Not bad, mate. Not bad. Not bad. That's a big\n\nChannel 0: Good.\n\nChannel 1: number?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Sorry. I took a bit longer. I was just trying to find the funny thing in the first place. When I first did the comparison, I wasn't I was surprised.\n\nSorry. I I had to do it again. I'm just just because I I honestly I was mainly surprised that the a plus that we got wasn't more than what it was.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And so I was like, surely that bigger number, but it's it's largely just because the flow is so big. And I think that's the only reason why the APLAC like, the the sorry. This was compared against the 1% level.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And, yeah, so, yeah, honestly, it makes sense to it it makes sense that it wasn't that bad, clearly, because it's the 1% is so much higher.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. It's\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: already there. Yeah. That yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: I I\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: see what\n\nChannel 0: But\n\nChannel 1: you're\n\nChannel 0: in\n\nChannel 1: saying.\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. But in the smaller event, like, I mean, not that we could have tested the smaller even smaller than what we got, but there was no way we're getting the I mean oh, yeah. Now knowing yeah. Looking at that compared to the small I'm sure a smaller event would look pretty catastrophic.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. And that's the thing. I guess that's what we gotta work out next, isn't it? It's like we need to do the modeling to understand how we can mitigate this or where where the flow if it's not staying on there, where is it now going, and what's who's it impacting?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And, yeah, how do we get around that pretty much?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So I also did another check for the 1%, and with the new eight plus so with the not new, but with the zero zero five, basically, all downstream from the from that massive levy that they essentially built for the\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: road\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: is impacted,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Right.\n\nChannel 0: which makes sense again.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Right?\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And then we expect that. We expected that because it's it's such a big house. It's it's so high.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So yeah. And then the the conversely, the the property on the downstream side is is a lot less flood prone because of\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: the what\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: happened.\n\nChannel 1: Levy.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Which is he was it was his design all along, I'm sure.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I don't\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: wanna see\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It's\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: gonna\n\nChannel 1: on\n\nChannel 0: help\n\nChannel 1: my place.\n\nChannel 0: someone out.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Push\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: it around. And so that's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: where my struggle is. We're gonna find a way to reduce the impact upstream. Right?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And and and we've got to show a model or some way of mitigating that and or, you know, what we can what can we do? What the hell can we do in this circumstance to try and mitigate that? Do we lower the levy? Do we, you know, do we put a shit ton of coal that's in there? Like, you know, how do we how do we mitigate that?\n\nDo we, yeah,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: do we have to redesign that area so it returns\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: some of the flood storage? Yeah. And\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: I don't even know how we compensate for that much storage life. But,\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: like, unless they level everything they've done, I'm not I I think, like I mean, it's up to you. It's it's obviously the same way what they decide in terms of whether or not we're gonna try and fix it for conveyance purposes or for flood storage purposes. Because\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I think for conveyance, we might be able to do a few things like you're\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: saying with COVID and things. But in terms of flood storage, I I genuinely unless you tell them to cut tapes, I'm not I don't really I don't know what to do with that. I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: can it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: a it's a big number.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: It's a\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: big\n\nChannel 1: a huge\n\nChannel 0: number.\n\nChannel 1: number. I know. It's like I just did I did a couple of quick calculations and worked out how long it would take to dig it out. And then and then once again, if you make a dam, it's gonna be full anyway because I'll utilize it as part of the farm. And then the next slide that comes across it down before you can't even utilize that.\n\nDo you know what I mean? That's like so that's not gonna work.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So I've\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I've gone\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: through a few things in my head, like, quickly going, how could you, what could you, you know, and because yeah. Nothing nothing really stacks up around the flood storage. So I'm kind of in that mode of, yeah, we're not gonna be able to replace it all, but what do we do to mitigate the impact upstream around it or the conveyance or at least understand where it's going and\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: then get get some either neighborly support to say, yeah. Well, it's okay. We don't care.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Good luck.\n\nChannel 0: That's alright. Yeah. I'm I'm not gonna be a laugh at you, but that's yeah. I've been labeling support. The the the these neighbors, the the two women seem to be really lovely, but I'm not sure how badly the other guy put people off.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: It sounds like\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: not great.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. But I think they're all friends. That's right. Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: that that look. That might change. I don't know. Like, I said, unless we have a crack and the and like I've I've I feel for you at this point in time because I I know this is more work for you and and them, and it's probably a cost implication. So I I don't know how you're gonna how you work that out, but that's we really need more info.\n\nLet's get\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: for\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: us to be\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: able to support anything and support the planning permit application and everything else. So look,\n\nChannel 0: Definitely.\n\nChannel 1: like, I wanna get to an outcome, and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I wanna be able to support them. But whether we all need to have a round table about how we do this or or not. But I think to be fair, they need to understand exactly how much\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: has been modified so that\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and then we go, okay. How do we what what we know we can't do this, but what if we do this? And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we have to model it and show where we can make some improvements and try try\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: and pick up. So and that means, you know, that means lowering the track or that means COVID in the track or, you know, whatever. Like I suggested before by the next door neighbor,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I\n\nChannel 1: you know.\n\nChannel 0: mean, they could lower that track by half a meter and still barely make a difference to their farm. I don't know why they built it so big.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. I think I've just had extra they had extra soil there that they were digging in. I don't know. Maybe\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: they brought a whole\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: bunch in.\n\nChannel 0: Probably.\n\nChannel 1: I don't know. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Probably.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. They\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: just had\n\nChannel 0: So my next step is me telling them what like, that what we just spoke about, which is essentially this the there's a massive difference. We're\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: need you to demonstrate how we can fix\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: it. First of all, we need to, I guess, get a bit more of a baseline. So I probably need to provide you a map with the zero zero five\n\nChannel 1: Yes, please. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: impact so\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: that you can always see what we're starting to deal with. And then so, yeah, get get probably go back to them and say that it's gonna be an iterative process like that. Because I don't even know how I could quote\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: how we're gonna fix this, so I feel like\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: it's\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: gonna\n\nChannel 1: know.\n\nChannel 0: be we're trying to you know?\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And and so I guess the the import one of the the important things is in terms of the smaller events, because I think, honestly, the smaller events are probably gonna dictate everything, honestly, Gavin. Like, I I reckon if if we if we are gonna model them, they're gonna look horrible. So understanding what you what your perspective is of do we because, yeah, like I said, we haven't got anything lower than what I've modeled, but do we check do we just say this is approximately what it would be and then just go with that or, like, what which one which one are we trying to assess against? Because I think if we're assessing it as the 1%, then I think there's things that we could do in in terms of conveyance. Storage, again, completely different, but in terms of conveyance for the 1%, I think we can do stuff.\n\nBut when we start talking about variance, if we if we if we're talking about, like, smaller and smaller events, what how low are we going to mitigate for?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep. So I guess that that comes back to us without seeing the model. It's like where is there gonna be neighborhood where is the neighborhood impact? How how bad is it on their on those impacts?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And to see what what they may or may not be comfortable with, like being extra on their land based on the development that's happened.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So yeah. And that means that they need to engage and everything else. So I I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: maybe\n\nChannel 1: I don't\n\nChannel 0: a plus for every event then.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Yeah. Which is\n\nChannel 0: What do you think?\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: Like,\n\nChannel 1: know.\n\nChannel 0: I feel like it was for every event that we that we've got data for, essentially.\n\nChannel 1: That\n\nChannel 0: Like,\n\nChannel 1: that'll\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: give us a picture. I think that's gonna give us a starting point because\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: like you said, we just don't know\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: until we see it where it's actually gonna impact. And then, you know, doing that and maybe just lowering the track might make a difference. It does lower events. It'll\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: allow it to to flow through. You know?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So for me, I agree. I think the track's too high. We rip the track down. That's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: step one.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Get it down to a low point and then because you should you could potentially model that, couldn't you, with the track there, with the track not\n\nChannel 0: Oh, yeah.\n\nChannel 1: there?\n\nChannel 0: I can cut it. I can cut that track out heaps. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: That\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that would\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: not be\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: a hard thing to model.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because I feel like for me, that's the most obvious thing that everybody can see that is gonna cause a problem. It's\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: like\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: when\n\nChannel 0: Even\n\nChannel 1: someone\n\nChannel 0: from the\n\nChannel 1: went\n\nChannel 0: at after that, you can tell. It's the thing.\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: It's like it it\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: as soon as you see the off off started back, it basically hits it, and then everything else is impacted.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. Cool. Yeah. That's right.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So we we cut that right down, and then maybe that's our first comparison. What's what difference does the track make?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And then, okay, the track makes this much difference,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: then we can live with that or we can get agreement with that, then, you know, that's what that's what the aim is. And that's not that's not too hard for them to achieve\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: given, yeah, everything else. So they've they've got machinery and they've got access to that sort of stuff, I think.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: And, I mean, I think they have the money. Based on what I when I was first talking, like, I I'm fairly like, maybe it's not it's a bit locked away because apparently legal things, but they they are\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: there's they've they've already got not my expense of what the work they've done. So, you know,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: right.\n\nChannel 0: think\n\nChannel 1: Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: that and and they're gonna need to they're gonna need to pay for it. And and I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I feel sorry for the two, but if they are, it's it's it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it's so much work. It's so\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: much work.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. I know. I get it too. I mean, yeah, they don't know.\n\nThey just don't know. They've walked into this and yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And that's that old adage of, you know, just having it going going home and then asking for forgiveness later. Well, that's not gonna fly. I've got I've got to go to sell this in here as well, you know, like, to sell the outcomes. I think I've got a way around for the Crown Land, but this other part of it I need to see, you know, what we\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: can\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: do.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Totally\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: fair.\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Totally fair.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. So\n\nChannel 0: And yeah. I I don't know. I feel like there should be probably I don't know. Like, I I don't mean to be bad mouthing them, but I feel like there should have been EPA potentially checks for it because the amount of runoff that would have gone directly into that the Tribe River,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: being\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: a priority river as well, it's pretty sad. It's pretty it's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: it's not great. It's pretty bad. Yeah. It\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: makes me pretty annoyed, to be honest. Like, it's not\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: a it's not a it's not what you want. And, you know, I mean, yeah, we we we're trying to work with them. We're trying to get the best solution. But, realistically, they've they've made it pretty like, not them themselves, but the person who ordered it has made a pretty terrible job. They've done\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: a pretty terrible job, and that doesn't mean just because they they have taken it up doesn't mean it doesn't discount the fact that it's a it's that that it shouldn't have been done, and it's not a good job.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. Exactly right. Yeah. No.\n\nI totally agree with you. And, like, you know, I think and my issue is I'd rather see it fixed in a way that works than then just having to pay a shitload of money in fines because I won't get it fixed either.\n\nChannel 0: Totally. Totally.\n\nChannel 1: So, yeah, if if EPA came in, then that would be regulated, you know, and that's that's that money is lost and the\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: ability for them to actually do some good is gonna be lost as well. So\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: I guess\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: It leave\n\nChannel 1: I'm\n\nChannel 0: limits\n\nChannel 1: trying to\n\nChannel 0: everything.\n\nChannel 1: be a bit pragmatic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I\n\nChannel 1: I'm\n\nChannel 0: completely\n\nChannel 1: trying to be\n\nChannel 0: agree.\n\nChannel 1: pragmatic.\n\nChannel 0: I completely I mean, I I I kinda wish that just to make it a little bit, but at the same time, like you said, it's just you you don't start you you basically giving up on the chance of it getting fixed, and and it'll just become a legal battle for ages, and\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: then, you know,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: nothing happens.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's right. Exactly. And whilst that's going on, you know, people that that it's it's just sitting there waiting for the next bit of water to come down, and then all the neighbors will be grumpy. And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: they'll all be impacted, and they'll be up for a whole bunch of civil costs as well. So it makes it even harder. Right? So, yeah, I don't wanna stop. I wanna keep going, but I wanna keep going in a practical sense that we can say, well, you need to do this, this, this, and this because these figures show that you've made a huge change.\n\nYeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep. Great. Okay. Awesome.\n\nSo next stage, I'll contact them, give them the results, give tell them that, you know, we're we're gonna\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: work together and try and figure out how we can how we can\n\nChannel 1: mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: develop a plan. And\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: it's it's it's it's gonna be an iterative, I guess, process. And hopefully yeah. And then so get them to get get the go ahead, and then we can start chatting a bit more and figure out what we can do.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. That's right. And I I need probably to give the Shire or the council to give an update at some point. So once you've had that conversation, can you just send me an email just with a couple of details\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: of what you\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: said and what you can help with? That way, I I wanna try and keep the planning permitting in train for them, but I don't know whether the council that's not out of my remit really. But because\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: council said you got twelve months. You can come back under the same permit over twelve months, then you're gonna have to apply all again. And so they'll shut down. They'll charge them all the fees again and everything else. So I just wanna try and keep it keep it open if you know what I mean.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. I understand. Yeah. Okay.\n\nCool. Alright. I'll I'll I'll get back to you as soon as I can.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Thanks, Alex. Appreciate it.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Hey. Can\n\nChannel 0: Thanks,\n\nChannel 1: I ask you\n\nChannel 0: Gavin.\n\nChannel 1: a separate question? Totally not.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I'll leave\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: a separate question. I'm getting\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: a lot of interest regarding the MarisLink. I'm not sure whether you've heard about that Tas, Vic, Greenlink cable that's running through. It'll come through to Hazelwood.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. I'm\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: getting a lot of farmer interest. Obviously, they're they're blazing through saying we want land access. We want this. We want that. We're doing this.\n\nWe're doing\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: that. I'm dealing with that at a higher level, but I've got a lot of customers, a lot of landholders coming to me going, what what what's going on here with waterways, and what can I do? And I need to build it all up with a track, and I need this, and I need that. Is that the sort of work that you would do or consult on design construction for some of these coal works in waterways if farmers have to actually establish a new track or weather track through their property to mitigate what's going\n\nChannel 0: Definitely.\n\nChannel 1: on with this marine slings\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: thing.\n\nChannel 0: So we\n\nChannel 1: Yeah?\n\nChannel 0: we would we would figure out the flow that would get through it and then try\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to design it so that whatever flow can be it could be protected.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: And yeah. Because I guess most like, if if if there's an existing Mhmm. Call that then usually it's a little bit easy because if they just make it a little bit better than you find. 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Like, I said, unless we have a crack and the and like I've I've I feel for you at this point in time because I I know this is more work for you and and them, and it's probably a cost implication. So I I don't know how you're gonna how you work that out, but that's we really need more info. Let's get Yeah. for Okay. us to be So able to support anything and support the planning permit application and everything else. So look, Definitely. like, I wanna get to an outcome, and Yeah.","start_word":913,"end_word":1038,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1142721027135849},{"text":"I wanna be able to support them.","start_word":1039,"end_word":1045,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4182487428188324},{"text":"But whether we all need to have a round table about how we do this or or not. But I think to be fair, they need to understand exactly how much Yeah. has been modified so that Yeah. and then we go, okay. How do we what what we know we can't do this, but what if we do this? And Yeah. we have to model it and show where we can make some improvements and try try Yep. and pick up. So and that means, you know, that means lowering the track or that means COVID in the track or, you know, whatever. Like I suggested before by the next door neighbor, Yeah. I you mean, know. they could lower that track by half a meter and still barely make a difference to their farm. I don't know why they built it so big. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've just had extra they had extra soil there that they were digging in. I don't know. Maybe Yeah. they brought a whole Yeah. bunch in. Probably. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Yep. Yep. They Okay. just had So my next step is me telling them what like, that what we just spoke about, which is essentially this the there's a massive difference. We're it. gonna Yep. need you to demonstrate how we can fix Yep. it. First of all, we need to, I guess, get a bit more of a baseline. So I probably need to provide you a map with the zero zero five Yes, please. Yep. impact so Yep. that you can always see what we're starting to deal with. And then so, yeah, get get probably go back to them and say that it's gonna be an iterative process like that. Because I don't even know how I could quote Yes. how we're gonna fix this, so I feel like it's Oh, gonna I know. be we're trying to you know? Yep. And and so I guess the the import one of the the important things is in terms of the smaller events, because I think, honestly, the smaller events are probably gonna dictate everything, honestly, Gavin.","start_word":1046,"end_word":1407,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.015797292813658714},{"text":"Like, I I reckon if if we if we are gonna model them, they're gonna look horrible.","start_word":1408,"end_word":1424,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4349880814552307},{"text":"So understanding what you what your perspective is of do we because, yeah, like I said, we haven't got anything lower than what I've modeled, but do we check do we just say this is approximately what it would be and then just go with that or, like, what which one which one are we trying to assess against? Because I think if we're assessing it as the 1%, then I think there's things that we could do in in terms of conveyance. Storage, again, completely different, but in terms of conveyance for the 1%, I think we can do stuff. But when we start talking about variance, if we if we if we're talking about, like, smaller and smaller events, what how low are we going to mitigate for? Yeah. Yep. So I guess that that comes back to us without seeing the model. It's like where is there gonna be neighborhood where is the neighborhood impact? How how bad is it on their on those impacts? Yeah. And to see what what they may or may not be comfortable with, like being extra on their land based on the development that's happened. Yep. So yeah. And that means that they need to engage and everything else. So I I Yeah. So yeah. maybe I don't a plus for every event then. yeah. Yeah. Which is What do you think? I Like, know. I feel like it was for every event that we that we've got data for, essentially. That Like, that'll that's give us a picture. I think that's gonna give us a starting point because yeah. like you said, we just don't know Yeah. until we see it where it's actually gonna impact. And then, you know, doing that and maybe just lowering the track might make a difference. It does lower events. It'll Yeah. allow it to to flow through. You know? Yeah. So for me, I agree.","start_word":1425,"end_word":1746,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.00033163250191137195},{"text":"I think the track's too high. We rip the track down.","start_word":1747,"end_word":1757,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.6643517017364502},{"text":"That's Yeah. step one. Yeah. Get it down to a low point and then because you should you could potentially model that, couldn't you, with the track there, with the track not Oh, yeah. there? I can cut it. I can cut that track out heaps. Yeah. Yeah. That Yeah. that would Yeah. not be Yeah. a hard thing to model. Yeah. Because I feel like for me, that's the most obvious thing that everybody can see that is gonna cause a problem. It's Oh, like yeah. when Even someone from the went at after that, you can tell. It's the thing. yep. It's like it it Yep. as soon as you see the off off started back, it basically hits it, and then everything else is impacted. Yep. Yep. Cool. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So we we cut that right down, and then maybe that's our first comparison. What's what difference does the track make? Yeah. And then, okay, the track makes this much difference, Yeah. then we can live with that or we can get agreement with that, then, you know, that's what that's what the aim is. And that's not that's not too hard for them to achieve Yeah. given, yeah, everything else. So they've they've got machinery and they've got access to that sort of stuff, I think. Yeah. So And, I mean, I think they have the money. Based on what I when I was first talking, like, I I'm fairly like, maybe it's not it's a bit locked away because apparently legal things, but they they are yeah. there's they've they've already got not my expense of what the work they've done. So, you know, Yeah. Yep. Yeah. yeah. That's I think right. that Exactly. and and they're gonna need to they're gonna need to pay for it. And and I Yeah. I feel sorry for the two, but if they are, it's it's it's Yeah. it's so much work. It's so Yep. much work. Yep. Yep. I know. I get it too. I mean, yeah, they don't know. They just don't know. They've walked into this and yeah. Yeah. And that's that old adage of, you know, just having it going going home and then asking for forgiveness later.","start_word":1758,"end_word":2135,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.05265425033276043},{"text":"Well, that's not gonna fly.","start_word":2136,"end_word":2140,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.6403915286064148},{"text":"I've got I've got to go to sell this in here as well, you know, like, to sell the outcomes. I think I've got a way around for the Crown Land, but this other part of it I need to see, you know, what we Yeah. can Yeah. do. Yeah. Totally So fair. yep. Yeah. Totally fair. Yeah. Yeah. So And yeah. I I don't know. I feel like there should be probably I don't know. Like, I I don't mean to be bad mouthing them, but I feel like there should have been EPA potentially checks for it because the amount of runoff that would have gone directly into that the Tribe River, Yeah. being Yep.","start_word":2141,"end_word":2257,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1626645177602768},{"text":"a priority river as well, it's pretty sad. It's pretty it's Yep. it's not great. It's pretty bad.","start_word":2258,"end_word":2275,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5099706053733826},{"text":"Yeah. It No.","start_word":2276,"end_word":2278,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.27621543407440186},{"text":"it No. makes me pretty annoyed, to be honest.","start_word":2279,"end_word":2287,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.49016910791397095},{"text":"Like, it's not Yeah.","start_word":2288,"end_word":2291,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.27662500739097595},{"text":"a it's not a it's not what you want. And, you know, I mean, yeah, we we we're trying to work with them.","start_word":2292,"end_word":2314,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4137561023235321},{"text":"We're trying to get the best solution.","start_word":2315,"end_word":2321,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.29540950059890747},{"text":"But, realistically, they've they've made it pretty like, not them themselves, but the person who ordered it has made a pretty terrible job. They've done Yes. a pretty terrible job, and that doesn't mean just because they they have taken it up doesn't mean it doesn't discount the fact that it's a it's that that it shouldn't have been done, and it's not a good job.","start_word":2322,"end_word":2387,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5764895081520081},{"text":"Yep. Yep. Exactly right. Yeah. No. I totally agree with you.","start_word":2388,"end_word":2398,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.19184015691280365},{"text":"And, like, you know, I think and my issue is I'd rather see it fixed in a way that works than then just having to pay a shitload of money in fines because I won't get it fixed either.","start_word":2399,"end_word":2437,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.33600306510925293},{"text":"Totally. Totally. So, yeah, if if EPA came in, then that would be regulated, you know, and that's that's that money is lost and the Yeah. ability for them to actually do some good is gonna be lost as well. So Exactly. I guess Yeah. yeah. It leave I'm limits trying to everything. be a bit pragmatic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm completely trying to be agree. pragmatic. I completely I mean, I I I kinda wish that just to make it a little bit, but at the same time, like you said, it's just you you don't start you you basically giving up on the chance of it getting fixed, and and it'll just become a legal battle for ages, and Yeah. then, you know, Yeah. nothing happens. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. And whilst that's going on, you know, people that that it's it's just sitting there waiting for the next bit of water to come down, and then all the neighbors will be grumpy. And Yeah.","start_word":2438,"end_word":2606,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.165029838681221},{"text":"they'll all be impacted, and they'll be up for a whole bunch of civil costs as well. So it makes it even harder.","start_word":2607,"end_word":2629,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3699409067630768},{"text":"Right? So, yeah, I don't wanna stop. I wanna keep going, but I wanna keep going in a practical sense that we can say, well, you need to do this, this, this, and this because these figures show that you've made a huge change. Yeah. Yep. Yep.","start_word":2630,"end_word":2676,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09346577525138856},{"text":"Great. Okay. Awesome.","start_word":2677,"end_word":2679,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5108932256698608},{"text":"So next stage, I'll contact them, give them the results, give tell them that, you know, we're we're gonna So work together and try and figure out how we can how we can mhmm. develop a plan. And Yep. it's it's it's it's gonna be an iterative, I guess, process. And hopefully yeah. And then so get them to get get the go ahead, and then we can start chatting a bit more and figure out what we can do. Yep. That's right. And I I need probably to give the Shire or the council to give an update at some point. So once you've had that conversation, can you just send me an email just with a couple of details Yep. of what you Yep. said and what you can help with? That way, I I wanna try and keep the planning permitting in train for them, but I don't know whether the council that's not out of my remit really. But because Yeah. council said you got twelve months. You can come back under the same permit over twelve months, then you're gonna have to apply all again. And so they'll shut down. They'll charge them all the fees again and everything else. So I just wanna try and keep it keep it open if you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. Yeah. Okay.","start_word":2680,"end_word":2907,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.061735120847036966},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":2908,"end_word":2908,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34546321630477905},{"text":"Alright. I'll I'll I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.","start_word":2909,"end_word":2924,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25333234667778015},{"text":"Thanks, Alex. Appreciate it.","start_word":2925,"end_word":2928,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5978423357009888},{"text":"Yeah. Hey. Can Thanks, I ask you Gavin. a separate question? Totally not. Yeah. I'll leave Yeah. a separate question. I'm getting Yes. a lot of interest regarding the MarisLink. I'm not sure whether you've heard about that Tas, Vic, Greenlink cable that's running through. It'll come through to Hazelwood. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I'm Yep. getting a lot of farmer interest. Obviously, they're they're blazing through saying we want land access. We want this. We want that. We're doing this. We're doing Yep. that. I'm dealing with that at a higher level, but I've got a lot of customers, a lot of landholders coming to me going, what what what's going on here with waterways, and what can I do? And I need to build it all up with a track, and I need this, and I need that. Is that the sort of work that you would do or consult on design construction for some of these coal works in waterways if farmers have to actually establish a new track or weather track through their property to mitigate what's going Definitely. on with this marine slings Yeah. thing. So we Yeah? we would we would figure out the flow that would get through it and then try Yep. to design it so that whatever flow can be it could be protected. Yes. And yeah. Because I guess most like, if if if there's an existing Mhmm. Call that then usually it's a little bit easy because if they just make it a little bit better than you find. So if they Yep. have if it's a new call that then we'd wanna know you'd you'd wanna see that that what how much water is coming through it. Yep. So we we figure out the flow, and then we do, like, a concept design for construction. Yeah.","start_word":2929,"end_word":3235,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0449917535221732},{"text":"And Good.","start_word":3236,"end_word":3237,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3333871066570282},{"text":"and we wouldn't do the construction itself, but we'd we'd consult on it and tell Yep. you, you know, where No. No. where you That's all probably I wanna need. I think put design yeah. Just design. Yeah. The A flux stuff, all that, you know, the important design A it. flux, that's all I'm looking for is just another name to give them with a few others. So I just wanted to make sure that's the sort of stuff that you're you're wanting to do, then you're happy to do Yeah. it in Yeah. the area. Look. So I'd love to get out into farming into farming a bit more, especially considering I I've noticed I mean, if there's gonna be especially with our farm zone saying, you know, you can't change the rate or point of discharge. Like, in in VCAT, it's gonna start going crazy with those things, and I reckon it it'd be it'd be negligible to farmers not to check if they're doing some work, especially Yeah. yeah. I I can just see it happening a lot more. So, yeah, no.","start_word":3238,"end_word":3423,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10303867608308792},{"text":"I I'd love to help with those ones more often.","start_word":3424,"end_word":3433,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.579338788986206},{"text":"And, yeah, look. Honestly, like, what it takes to Aplex with with consulting and stuff. I I do pretty much the exact same thing. I just I'm just a much smaller scale and and oh, sorry. Much smaller team and don't really yeah. But they they they can take all the big studies, and I typically like to do the one on one ones a bit more. Yep. Yep. Good. Okay. No. That's cool. I'm just yeah. I'm just trying to build a list of people who I can sort of put down. So this is my Google search for you, but here's all the names that are important that will actually do the job.","start_word":3434,"end_word":3548,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.12816888093948364},{"text":"Thank you. So I really appreciate yeah. that. That that's really kind. Thank you.","start_word":3549,"end_word":3562,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5434607863426208},{"text":"Yeah. Well, That's like yeah. I That'd said, be yeah, I can't be seen to be favoring anybody, but I just feel like there's needs to be someone in the area, you know, or a couple of people in the area who are actually accessible to these guys because, you know, they don't have a fortune either to spend some of them. And, you Yeah. know, Yeah. in in some cases, they'll get they'll get sorted out by managed link and covered. The cost will the cost should be covered anyway because they're making a Yeah. big change to their operation. But there's I don't want the whole thing to be just this great big price gouging thing. This is crazy. So Yeah. some practical practical solutions on palm for all weather access and things like that. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And and I'm Yeah. I'm always looking for smaller natures that aren't because those ones, the bigger guys probably aren't that keen on purely because they don't make enough money from them, but Yeah. I There's prefer no margin. Yeah. them. That's right. Exactly. That's But if you're in the area, right. there's margin, I think that's fine too. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So Yeah.","start_word":3563,"end_word":3767,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0063054729253053665},{"text":"Brilliant.","start_word":3768,"end_word":3768,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5527872443199158},{"text":"That that'd be yes.","start_word":3769,"end_word":3772,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22418837249279025},{"text":"Brilliant.","start_word":3773,"end_word":3773,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7674948573112488},{"text":"Okay. Well, I'll let you know when I was supposed to send them an email, and then we can we can figure out what what we're gonna do. Yep.","start_word":3774,"end_word":3802,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1425127536058426},{"text":"Great. No worries. Easy. That's good on you. Thanks. Appreciate it, Thanks, mate. Gavin. Cheers. Alright. Bye Have bye. a good weekend.","start_word":3803,"end_word":3824,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6728030443191528},{"text":"Bye. Yeah. Bye. You too. See you. Bye. Bye.","start_word":3825,"end_word":3833,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22796356678009033}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.027780559180563345}}}}