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It's their issue. They've they've contacted their consultant. So and but then I I was like, oh, how long is that gonna take to get back? And they said they'll let me know. We've I've just decided to do what I should have done at the start, which is rip their model apart and just build it the way it should have been built and then model it. I've just spent the day doing it, and there's no off-site impact based on the most recent assessment. So I'm gonna re report and we're gonna submit. So I I've I've done it to the I the better it's it's better than what it was. I'm sorry. But what they've done so I I'm not I'm not worried about objection. And if they came back to it, I'll be able to argue why they should support it. So I think we're fine. They do. And the consultant or whoever they they got on is no good. It's yeah. It's it I'm not I I think that's why it's taken so long to get to where we are because they don't know how to answer any of the questions, and they go back to a consultant who's who helps them, and then they get back so that's why everything's taken twice as long. It's because every time we're talking to it's going through 10 different hands. I've never had this problem. Usually usually, when a when a council is a a floodplain manager, they have in house staff to do it. Knox having house staff, City Grades along, all of the other all the all the councils who manage their own flood studies have in house people. This is the first one I've ever heard of that they have to speak to a consultant each time. I think Yarra Ranges is is Melbourne Water. So they'll at least they they know what they're doing. I I don't agree with what they do sometimes, but they at least I can have a rational conversation with them. Yep. I'll be done. So there's there's a flood advice. You can get development advice or flood advice on the Melbourne Water website, or if you go into if if there's any anything that says SBO, LSIO, FO what else is there? You have said all all of those runs with the overlays and zones, I'd check them. But more than anything, I'd still probably send it through to Melbourne Water because Melbourne Water's just updated the flood mapping for pretty much all of Victoria, and half the modeling is still not in the planning scheme. So I I'd go straight to Melbourne Water. Okay. I would I would reach out to them. I I would too. I'd I'd yeah. I mean, if you ever have a chance not to build in a in a flood overlay or or a flood prone area, then I yeah. Just stay away from it. That's what I would recommend. Yeah. I mean but yeah. I I guess this is the problem with all of the the studies at the moment is that because because it it's the best available, Melbourne would have to use it, but you don't know whether or not it is available yet. So you're always you're always on the back foot at the moment, essentially, until all this comes into the planning scheme, which, you know, could be next two years. So I would be hesitant about site until those planning scheme amendments changed. Great. Oh oh oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Their drainage system isn't big enough. Yeah. Exactly. And and and they've managed the flood study. That's the other big thing is that if Melbourne Water hadn't managed it, then and and, unfortunately, Council and Melbourne Water don't really talk to I mean, no government agency are particularly good at it, but they don't really talk to each other. So I like, it would be I think it'd be best practice for Melbourne Water to also say it is considered flood prone from council because it we're in the Melbourne Water region. It should be in there. But but yeah. They they just it it's the same issue as what we spoke about before, which is you so we're you do dealing with issues between organizations, but then also issues within organizations because I I can guarantee you half the planners probably don't know that there's a flood study there in in council. And so he'll basically you're you're almost teaching them what's what they need to be assessing against. That's just yeah. Which is which is ridiculous in itself. But yeah. We're we're good. Yeah. And then and yeah. But then we'll get approval. We'll get approval. I I'm I'm very pretty certain just based on what I've been able to demonstrate now. I I and I just don't wanna wait. I don't wanna wait for them to to have to come back for, you know, I don't know how many iterations it's gonna take. I've just redone what they what they need, exactly what they need just to get away from this. So we should be fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. 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It's Alex from SWM Consulting.\n\nChannel 1: Good day, Alex. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Good. Thank you. I'll give you an update. So I had a chat with them, and they've said that it's not it's not our issue.\n\nIt's their issue. They've they've contacted their consultant. So and but then I I was like, oh, how long is that gonna take to get back? And they said they'll let me know. We've I've just decided to do what I should have done at the start, which is rip their model apart and just build it the way it should have been built and then model it.\n\nI've just spent the day doing it, and there's no off-site impact based on the most recent assessment. So I'm gonna re report and we're gonna submit.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: So I I've I've done it to the I the better it's it's better than what it was.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: I'm sorry. But what they've done so I I'm not I'm not worried about objection. And if they came back to it, I'll be able to argue why they should support it. So I think we're fine.\n\nChannel 1: So do they refer to a consultant then?\n\nChannel 0: They do. And the consultant or whoever they they got on is no good. It's yeah. It's it I'm not I I think that's why it's taken so long to get to where we are because they don't know how to answer any of the questions, and they go back to a consultant who's who helps them, and then they get back so that's why everything's taken twice as long. It's because every time we're talking to it's going through 10 different hands.\n\nChannel 1: Jesus. That's not how you operate without accountants, obviously.\n\nChannel 0: I've never had this problem. Usually usually, when a when a council is a a floodplain manager, they have in house staff to do it. Knox having house staff, City Grades along, all of the other all the all the councils who manage their own flood studies have in house people. This is the first one I've ever heard of that they have to speak to a consultant each time.\n\nChannel 1: Which is just interesting. It just leads me into another quiz. I'm just looking at another site. So what are Yarrow Ranges? Have you had any you think with Yarrow Ranges?\n\nChannel 0: I think Yarra Ranges is is Melbourne Water. So\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: they'll at least they they know what they're doing. I I don't agree with what they do sometimes, but they at least I can have a rational conversation with them.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. So if I looked at a because I'm looking at another property in Yarra Ranges. How would I because I'm just being I mean, I've done stuff in Yarra Ranges, and I haven't had a query\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: about the floodplain. But now this has made me really\n\nChannel 0: I'll\n\nChannel 1: sort\n\nChannel 0: be done.\n\nChannel 1: of\n\nChannel 0: So there's\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: there's a flood advice. 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All cheers.\n\nChannel 1: See\n\nChannel 0: Thank\n\nChannel 1: you.\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: Bye bye.\n\nChannel 0: Bye.","paragraphs":[{"sentences":[{"text":"Hi, Neil?","start":5.7599998,"end":6.5,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.017559587489813566}],"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.017559587489813566,"channel":0,"num_words":2,"start":5.7599998,"end":6.5},{"sentences":[{"text":"Hello?","start":7.52,"end":8.02,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.013005269691348076}],"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.013005269691348076,"channel":1,"num_words":1,"start":7.52,"end":8.02},{"sentences":[{"text":"Hello, 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