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They're they're simple errors that shouldn't have should've been picked up, but I think because of the short timing and trying to get it all out in time, I I made a few, clerical errors. So, I I can easily answer all of them, which is essentially, yes. It is flood prone. You're a 100% right. It's an LSIO. It it is. And the flood sorry. The property parcel is the smaller parcel at the front where the actual that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rather than the whole thing, which is it's our we would be assessing the whole thing, I guess, is the is and I think that might be the concern. So I can I'll update that as well. The validated yeah. So that includes now sorry. Council's sorry. The CMA's climate change scenario. So it would be validated against what they've got. Yeah. So they won't, but they'll have a one in 200, and that's what I would be pushing for them to use. So that that is, like, this yeah. So so we'd be validating and by validation, we wouldn't be able to validate it against anything specifically, but the idea would be to say, this is what we're using. This is the 1% event. You can see that it's bigger than 1% event, so it is likely that it would be a more climate change option, like, a climate change y option, I guess. So it's it's just it's always a normality where you have to be like, yeah. Exactly. And you have to be like, look. This is this is what we this is the best we can do. We we have to validate against something because otherwise, it may it's it's it's an irrelevant exercise. Like, I mean, we can say this flood expense. This is this is how big it is. But the idea is just to be like, yes. This is how big it is, but this is what other data we have out there, and it shows that it's relatively similar. But the the extent is similar, but it's but you can see that it is larger because it is a larger scenario. Yes. Yeah. And I'll just I'll I'll still update that quote though, just so so I'll I'll still change it. And I guess the one the the final thing for the sorry. There's so the developed scenario sorry. Model one developed scenario. And if there's another if there's or if you've got two scenarios that you're like, we could try this or this, then we would test both those two. But then if neither of them worked and we needed to do, like, design and we need to test, you know, whether we can get flood depths out, velocities out, all that kind of stuff, then we go to stage two. And that's so that's only if we have to. And that's why I like to separate it. Some consultants put it all in one. I I feel it's better to separate because sometimes you don't need it. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yep. And and look, it it's always for me, it's also really good to know what the best they can do because I will speak to the CMA regardless. Like, I I'll have conversations with them. And, I mean, obviously, it would be like, this is what we're proposing, but, you know, if if they had their if they had hoped of what they could get, they'd love to do this. What are your initial thoughts? Like, it it wouldn't be a proper estimate from them, but at least then I could be like, okay. This is what they're concerned about. I can potentially mitigate that. You know what I mean? So I I just tried to do it so it's like that. So any as much as as much information about what is the what you'd like tested or at least, like, in involved in, that's better for me. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I and and I I think that's I mean, look. I I think it's also a problem with our industry is that that I I don't think a lot of engineers, those flood models that I know do go to the team early enough. But I think if you get what I found is when I get in early, I get much more leniency from them. And and yeah. So I I'm I'm hoping that that that I mean, it's worked for me so far with the within the city of Bendigo. I've I've got a few projects got through it. So, yeah, it's not yeah. It's not yeah. Like, I mean, that's it's just the way I like to work. I mean, I if you right. I'm I'm a small business, so I I wanna make sure that what I'm doing is gonna get approved because I don't really like that until it come back to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Great. Yeah. And and I I think I think we should be yeah. We should be good. I I look. There's there's site isn't there's site isn't always lost. Like, I I I feel like even when we model it with the newer with with the survey and all that kind of stuff, I think that's probably gonna show a bit better than what it is already. So yeah. I'd like that's that's my gut feeling for it. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Yeah. And and, look, it we've been pretty close with those. Yeah, those problems. Especially when we're getting the model. And the thing is, like, they they sometimes they can take a little bit of time, but I know them again. So, hopefully, that's that's that's helped me in the past. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Perfect. Easy. Done. No worries. I'll I think somewhere in the site your site, I'll put in maybe at the bottom that this is we we we've done a a similar assessment, and the one sorry. The climate change scenario was comparable to a point five, which is what we were assume as the climate change condition or something like that. Yep. Easy. No worries. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good one. 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How are you doing? Yeah. Not too bad. Yeah. It's Tuesday morning. So yeah. Yes. No. No stress. Yes. No. No stress. Yep. Alright. That's okay. Where the flooding is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yep. Yeah. It's just that Yeah. So because I think their feedback said they didn't have the climate change modeling. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Kinda like a worst case scenario. So yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Okay. No. That that sounds good. Yeah. Because I just I just wanted to be because, I mean, a couple of the clarifications in there really was more, as you say, it was just kind of taking the lens of getting in front of Aviva, the client, in case he had the same questions. Because usually, I'm not too too fast about quotes in terms of, you know, being more specific around things about whether it's in in an LSIO or the size of the site. That's something I thought probably just in case the client's looking at that with an eagle eye. But yeah. And then the queries about the the modeling was really just to make sure because, yeah, I had it in my head that, yeah, CMA were obviously saying, you know, you've gotta consider climate change, which as as you've mentioned is more, I guess, extreme in terms of the the modeling than just the 11% extent. So, yeah, just wanted to make sure we were covering that, which sounds like we are. So that's that's excellent. Yeah. Very good. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. K. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Phase two. Yep. Okay. Cool. No. That that's good. That that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think that that's that's right. And I think the good thing is when I pass these on to to either, I think that that's what I'll probably clarify to him upfront is just to say, look, phase one is, you know, your best case scenario where you do some modeling of of the current proposal. And if it comes back and it's all fine, there's no further kind of design or mitigation modeling needed, then you can just disregard, you know, the phase two scope of the quote. So I think that's a good idea. Kinda keeps it separate, and it's there as as a maybe not we won't call it a contingency, but I think I'll just clarify that for him because I'd I'd must admit when I got it on Friday, I was trying to work out. I was like and this is obviously after a long day and long week. But I was looking I was like, oh, hang on. I've got I've got three quotes. One of them, obviously, I knew was the wrong one, wrong site. But but the other two, I was like, hang on. I've got two. Is one I thought, have you accidentally sent two? And then I realized there was a phase one and a phase two. And then after I actually read it with fresh eyes yesterday morning, it was really obvious that, as you say, you've kind of just made that separate allowance for phase two only if needed. So I think that's a good call, and I'll make that really clear to either so he understands he might not my gut feeling is it's probably gonna head towards that way, but that's okay. It's we'll see where we go. But, no, that that's good because I think the reason behind my question for on that phase one kind of develop conditions modeling was which I think I touched on in that email too. But, basically, like, we've got the design which went to council and CMA. And then I think I might have sent it to you last week but or the week before, but effectively, it's just the one where it just shows a car park in that kind of northern part of the site where the flooding is. But then in the background, what the client has decided they might want to entertain is, like, a small amount of structure in terms of, like, columns for a building above, which I think you've and I relayed it back to the team as well. I think you had really helpful initial advice to say, if it's residential, it's very unlikely to be supported by CMA unless, you know, you can prove the safe access side of things. So I did relay that back to the guys, but I think that's where they will probably be wanting to potentially have a look and see if that's something that they can then go back with a bit of confidence to counsel and say, you know, we're we're taking care of the flood risk. This is what we wanna do. And effectively, like, it's just them wanting to get a bit of an extra bill form or or a larger motel. Yeah. So so I think that'd be good. I think that'd be the main thing that I reckon the client might query and I can clarify to him is just to say, in terms of that phase one developed conditions modeling, you can table two. One one is obviously the table, the one that we've counsel on CMA now, which is, I guess, kind of your fallback, what they would consider their fallback option. And then the other one is what they might consider their preferred option. And it's a funny kind of chicken and egg situation, which I'm sure you've dealt with before where they've got this alternative design that they are interested in. They don't wanna go too far down that path if it's not gonna work from the flood side of things. But then they've got the challenge of then having to table that design with council and and get, you know, all the other considerations ticked off in terms of air and design and heritage and all of those departments, you know, so that everyone's on the same page. But but I think I've said to them I've always said to them on this, like, one of your main hurdles is making sure that you're sorting out the flooding, and then we can take it from there. So yeah. I think this is all good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look. I I think that's excellent. I think that'll be well received as well because the challenge that we've had is we had a site meeting with council and, like, early, early on once we got their initial comments back. And and really because they've kind of almost conflicting comments where we had their own design guy saying, you you can build a bigger building here. And then and then the heritage adviser is saying, oh, we don't necessarily want that. And I was like, well, let's get on-site to kind of point out we got competing objectives here. And then I actually said I think it was the urban designer account, so I said to them, well, you know, you're saying you want a building right up to the creek here, but we've got flooding to deal with. And her eyes kinda glazed over as if to be like, oh, I've got no idea about that. So we're like, oh, here we go. But but then, unfortunately, Council also gave our client a bit of a steer in terms of saying, oh, we can just have a casual chat with CMA and and get their feedback, which gave everyone a bit of confidence, but then obviously waited about six weeks. And then after that six weeks, they gave us, you know, that's part of that feedback, which I sent to you. But effectively, it didn't say much. And and fair enough, but it it said, you know, you're gonna have to come comfortable with a bit of modeling. So it's just that that situation now where I think the client in particular is thinking if they expect counsel to get any feedback out of CMA, it's gonna be very limited and come with heavy caveats. So they'll I think they'll be a lot happier that you might have a better a better way of of getting some advice, which obviously yep. Fair enough. It comes with some caveats, but it might be a bit more helpful than what what council was able to get, which was basically, you know, just ticking the boxes. And it was just kind of a very, you know, a very ordered response back to back to the client, which, yeah, didn't didn't really help things, I guess, in terms of them feeling like the thing was moving along. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Great. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Look. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. No. Look. Look. I yeah. I totally totally get that. And I think that that's that'll be music to our our client's ears because, you know, when when I went to them and just said, like, after we got that initial CMA stuff, I said to them, you're gonna need someone very good on this to help you get get over the over the hill. And and one of Iva's comments was, you know, back to me, like, to me directly was, you need to get someone who knows what they're doing, which I was like I I thought it was a funny comment, but but I think yeah. You're exactly what you're saying is I think what he is after where yeah. He just wants someone just to kind of, you know, know how to to get it to work. And and I think those conversations that you might have with Summays, what he's kind of thinking or expecting and and he's after. So, yeah, I reckon that'll be pretty well received, to be honest. So yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's good to hear. Yeah. Yeah. Great. No. Excellent. Alright. Well, yeah, if you're happy to to resend with just those little updates based on those comments from yesterday, I'll soon as it lands, I'll forward it across to either. And then, yeah, we'll we'll just say like, I'll see if he's got any questions, but otherwise, I I imagine he'll just wanna sign you up pretty quickly, and his comment will be just just get going and give you whatever you need. So Okay. Yeah. So, look, we'll just do that and then, yeah, go from there, and I'll I'll assuming, yeah, you get get the thumbs up, then I'll loop you in with Ivan and Robert, his architects, and I guess we'll take it from there. And I saw in your quote, is it right the time frame of around six weeks? Again, obviously, it all depends on you being given everything you need and that type of thing. But is that is that right? The six weeks from, like, you get get given the green light to and hypothetically, if all the modeling goes okay, that that's probably, you know, six weeks time you get a report, which will support yeah. Okay. Yep. But I yeah. And I think I'll yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. It hopefully will help. Yeah. No. Exactly. Well, that's well, I mean, to put it this way, like, you're we're not gonna get it any faster than you, and council's not gonna get any faster than you. That's for sure. So any any any additional time savings you can get is, you know, is a bonus. But but again, yeah, I think the main thing really be just the, you know, either the client knowing it's in good hands. I think he tends to have the right attitude on this, which is, you know, to get it right, take the time we need to get it right, not not to rush at the wrong moments. And so I think that'll be the point, and that's obviously what I've been trying to strongly encourage him as well is just to be patient where he can be just to make sure that he's got the right, you know, approach. So I think that should be fine. Yeah. Very good. Alright, Alex. Thank you. Well, no. I appreciate the call. And, yeah, I'll I'll just keep an eye out for your your updated quotes, and then, yeah, we'll we'll take it from there. But fingers crossed, yeah, either gives you the the sign up quickly, and then we go from there. Perfect. Right. Thanks, Alex. Yeah. Okay. Yep. No. That that sounds good. Good good to have that clarity, I think. Yeah. Easy. Right. Sounds good. Thanks, Alex. 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How are you doing? Yeah. Not too bad. Yeah.\n\nIt's Tuesday morning. So yeah. Yes. No. No stress.\n\nYes. No. No stress. Yep. Alright.\n\nThat's okay. Where the flooding is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Cool. Yep. Yeah. It's just that Yeah.\n\nSo because I think their feedback said they didn't have the climate change modeling. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.\n\nCool. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.\n\nKinda like a worst case scenario. So yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.\n\nOkay. No. That that sounds good. Yeah. Because I just I just wanted to be because, I mean, a couple of the clarifications in there really was more, as you say, it was just kind of taking the lens of getting in front of Aviva, the client, in case he had the same questions.\n\nBecause usually, I'm not too too fast about quotes in terms of, you know, being more specific around things about whether it's in in an LSIO or the size of the site. 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So I think that's a good call, and I'll make that really clear to either so he understands he might not my gut feeling is it's probably gonna head towards that way, but that's okay. It's we'll see where we go. But, no, that that's good because I think the reason behind my question for on that phase one kind of develop conditions modeling was which I think I touched on in that email too. But, basically, like, we've got the design which went to council and CMA.\n\nAnd then I think I might have sent it to you last week but or the week before, but effectively, it's just the one where it just shows a car park in that kind of northern part of the site where the flooding is. But then in the background, what the client has decided they might want to entertain is, like, a small amount of structure in terms of, like, columns for a building above, which I think you've and I relayed it back to the team as well. I think you had really helpful initial advice to say, if it's residential, it's very unlikely to be supported by CMA unless, you know, you can prove the safe access side of things. So I did relay that back to the guys, but I think that's where they will probably be wanting to potentially have a look and see if that's something that they can then go back with a bit of confidence to counsel and say, you know, we're we're taking care of the flood risk. This is what we wanna do.\n\nAnd effectively, like, it's just them wanting to get a bit of an extra bill form or or a larger motel. Yeah. So so I think that'd be good. I think that'd be the main thing that I reckon the client might query and I can clarify to him is just to say, in terms of that phase one developed conditions modeling, you can table two. One one is obviously the table, the one that we've counsel on CMA now, which is, I guess, kind of your fallback, what they would consider their fallback option.\n\nAnd then the other one is what they might consider their preferred option. And it's a funny kind of chicken and egg situation, which I'm sure you've dealt with before where they've got this alternative design that they are interested in. They don't wanna go too far down that path if it's not gonna work from the flood side of things. But then they've got the challenge of then having to table that design with council and and get, you know, all the other considerations ticked off in terms of air and design and heritage and all of those departments, you know, so that everyone's on the same page. But but I think I've said to them I've always said to them on this, like, one of your main hurdles is making sure that you're sorting out the flooding, and then we can take it from there.\n\nSo yeah. I think this is all good. Yeah. 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It comes with some caveats, but it might be a bit more helpful than what what council was able to get, which was basically, you know, just ticking the boxes. And it was just kind of a very, you know, a very ordered response back to back to the client, which, yeah, didn't didn't really help things, I guess, in terms of them feeling like the thing was moving along. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYep. Yeah. Great. Yeah. That's good.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Look. That's it. Yeah.\n\nYeah. No. Look. Look. I yeah.\n\nI totally totally get that. And I think that that's that'll be music to our our client's ears because, you know, when when I went to them and just said, like, after we got that initial CMA stuff, I said to them, you're gonna need someone very good on this to help you get get over the over the hill. And and one of Iva's comments was, you know, back to me, like, to me directly was, you need to get someone who knows what they're doing, which I was like I I thought it was a funny comment, but but I think yeah. You're exactly what you're saying is I think what he is after where yeah. He just wants someone just to kind of, you know, know how to to get it to work.\n\nAnd and I think those conversations that you might have with Summays, what he's kind of thinking or expecting and and he's after. So, yeah, I reckon that'll be pretty well received, to be honest. So yeah. Good stuff. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yep. That's good to hear. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nGreat. No. Excellent. Alright. Well, yeah, if you're happy to to resend with just those little updates based on those comments from yesterday, I'll soon as it lands, I'll forward it across to either.\n\nAnd then, yeah, we'll we'll just say like, I'll see if he's got any questions, but otherwise, I I imagine he'll just wanna sign you up pretty quickly, and his comment will be just just get going and give you whatever you need. So Okay. Yeah. So, look, we'll just do that and then, yeah, go from there, and I'll I'll assuming, yeah, you get get the thumbs up, then I'll loop you in with Ivan and Robert, his architects, and I guess we'll take it from there. And I saw in your quote, is it right the time frame of around six weeks?\n\nAgain, obviously, it all depends on you being given everything you need and that type of thing. But is that is that right? 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And so I think that'll be the point, and that's obviously what I've been trying to strongly encourage him as well is just to be patient where he can be just to make sure that he's got the right, you know, approach. So I think that should be fine. Yeah. Very good.\n\nAlright, Alex. Thank you. Well, no. I appreciate the call. And, yeah, I'll I'll just keep an eye out for your your updated quotes, and then, yeah, we'll we'll take it from there.\n\nBut fingers crossed, yeah, either gives you the the sign up quickly, and then we go from there. Perfect. Right. Thanks, Alex. Yeah.\n\nOkay. Yep. No. That that sounds good. Good good to have that clarity, I think.\n\nYeah. Easy. Right. Sounds good. Thanks, Alex.\n\nWe'll speak soon. Right. Cheers. You too. 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How are you doing?\n\nChannel 0: Good, Roger. How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Not too bad. Yeah. It's Tuesday morning. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep. And end of end end of the month always for me seems like it's just absolutely chaos. So\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: I do apologize.\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: No\n\nChannel 0: also\n\nChannel 1: stress.\n\nChannel 0: wanna say sorry for the clarifications. They're they're simple errors that shouldn't have should've been picked up, but I think because of the short timing and trying to get it all out in time, I\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: I made a few, clerical errors. So,\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: No\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: stress.\n\nChannel 0: can easily answer all of them, which is essentially, yes. It is flood prone. You're a 100% right. It's an LSIO.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: It it is. And the flood sorry. The property parcel is the smaller\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: parcel\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: at the\n\nChannel 1: okay.\n\nChannel 0: front where the actual\n\nChannel 1: Where the flooding is.\n\nChannel 0: that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Rather than the whole thing, which is it's our we would be assessing the whole thing, I guess, is the is and I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: think that might be the concern. So I can I'll update that as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: The validated yeah. So that includes now sorry. Council's sorry. The CMA's climate change scenario. So it would be\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: validated against\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: what they've got.\n\nChannel 1: just that Yeah. So because I think their feedback said they didn't have the climate change modeling. Does that sound right?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So they won't,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: but they'll have a one in 200, and that's what I would be pushing for them to use. So that\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that is,\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: like, this\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: so we'd be validating and by validation, we wouldn't be able to validate it against anything specifically, but the idea would be to say, this is what we're using. This is the 1% event. You can see that it's bigger than 1% event, so it is likely that it would be a more climate change option, like,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: a climate change y option, I guess. So it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: just it's\n\nChannel 1: Kinda\n\nChannel 0: always\n\nChannel 1: like\n\nChannel 0: a\n\nChannel 1: a\n\nChannel 0: normality\n\nChannel 1: worst case scenario.\n\nChannel 0: where you have\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: to be like, yeah. Exactly. And you\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: have to be like, look. This is this is what we this is the best we can do. We we have to validate against something because otherwise, it may it's it's it's an irrelevant exercise. Like, I mean,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: we can say this flood expense. This is this is how big it is. But the idea is just to be like, yes. This is how big it is, but this is what other data we have out there, and it shows that it's relatively similar. But the the extent is similar, but it's but you can see that it is larger because it is a larger scenario.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep. Okay. No. That that sounds good.\n\nYeah. Because I just I just wanted to be because, I mean, a couple of the clarifications in there really was more, as you say, it was just kind of taking the lens of getting in front of Aviva, the client, in case he had the same questions. Because usually, I'm not too\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: too fast about quotes in terms of, you know, being more specific around things about whether it's in in an LSIO or the size of the site. That's something I thought probably just in case the client's looking at that with an eagle eye. But yeah. And then the queries about the the modeling was really just to make sure because, yeah, I had it in my head that, yeah, CMA were obviously saying, you know, you've gotta consider climate change, which as as you've mentioned is more, I guess, extreme in terms of the the modeling than just the 11% extent. So, yeah, just wanted to make sure we were covering that, which sounds like we are.\n\nSo that's that's excellent. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And I'll\n\nChannel 1: Very\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: I'll I'll still update that quote though, just\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: so\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: so I'll I'll still change it. And I guess the one the the final thing for the sorry. There's so the developed scenario sorry. Model one developed scenario.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And if there's another if there's or if you've got two scenarios that you're like, we could try this or this, then we would\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: test both those two. But\n\nChannel 1: K.\n\nChannel 0: then\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: neither of them worked and we needed to do, like, design and we need to test, you know, whether we can get flood depths out, velocities out, all that kind of stuff, then we\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: go to stage\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Phase two. Yep. Okay. Cool.\n\nNo.\n\nChannel 0: two.\n\nChannel 1: That that's\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: That that\n\nChannel 0: so that's\n\nChannel 1: makes\n\nChannel 0: only\n\nChannel 1: sense.\n\nChannel 0: if we have to. And that's why\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I like to separate it. Some consultants put it all in one. I I feel it's better\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: to separate because sometimes you don't need it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Look, I think that that's that's right. And I think the good thing is when I pass these on to to either, I think that that's what I'll probably clarify to him upfront is just to say, look, phase one is, you know, your best case scenario where you do some modeling of of the current proposal. And if it comes back and it's all fine, there's no further kind of design or mitigation modeling needed, then you can just disregard, you know, the phase two scope of the quote.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So I think that's a good idea. Kinda keeps it separate, and it's there as as a maybe not we won't call it a contingency, but I think I'll just clarify that for him because I'd I'd must admit when I got it on Friday, I was trying to work out. I was like and this is obviously after a long day and long week.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: But I was looking I was like, oh, hang on. I've got I've got three quotes. One of them, obviously,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I knew\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: was\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: the wrong one, wrong site.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: But but the other\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: two, I was like, hang on. I've got two. Is one I thought, have you accidentally sent two? And then I realized there was a phase one and a phase two. And\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: then after I actually read it with fresh eyes yesterday morning, it was really obvious that, as you say, you've kind of just made that separate allowance for phase two only if needed. So I\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: think that's a good call, and I'll make that really clear to either so he understands he might not my gut feeling is it's probably gonna head towards that way, but that's okay. It's\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: we'll see where we go. But, no, that that's good because I think the reason behind my question for on that phase one kind of develop conditions modeling was which I think I touched on in that email too. But, basically, like, we've got the design which went to council and CMA. And then I think I might have sent it to you last week but or the week before, but effectively, it's just the one where it just shows a car park in that kind of northern part\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: of the site where the flooding is.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: But then in the background, what the client has decided they might want to entertain is, like, a small amount of structure in terms of, like, columns for a building above, which I think you've and I relayed it back to the team as well. I think you had really helpful initial advice to say, if it's residential, it's very unlikely to be supported by CMA unless, you know, you can prove the safe access side of things. So I did relay that back to the guys, but I think that's where they will probably be wanting to potentially have a look and see if that's something that they can then go back with a bit of confidence to counsel and say, you know, we're we're taking care of the flood risk. This is what we wanna do. And effectively, like,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: it's just them wanting to get a bit of an extra bill form or or a\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: larger\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: motel.\n\nChannel 0: Of course.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So so I think that'd be good. I think that'd be the main thing that I reckon the client might query and I can clarify to him is just to say, in terms of that phase one developed conditions modeling, you can table two. One one is obviously the table, the one that we've counsel on CMA now, which is, I guess, kind of your fallback, what they would consider\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: their fallback option.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: And then the other one is what they might consider their preferred option. And it's a funny kind of chicken and egg situation, which I'm sure you've dealt with before where\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: they've got this alternative design that they are interested in. They don't wanna go too far down that path if it's not gonna work from the flood side of things.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: But then they've got the challenge of then having to table that design with council and and get, you know, all the other considerations ticked off in terms of air and design and heritage and all of those departments, you know, so that everyone's on the same page. But but I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: think\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I've\n\nChannel 0: Of\n\nChannel 1: said\n\nChannel 0: course.\n\nChannel 1: to them I've always said to them on this, like, one of your main hurdles is making sure that you're sorting out the flooding, and then we can take it from there. So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. I think\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: this\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: is\n\nChannel 0: look,\n\nChannel 1: all\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: it's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: always for me, it's also really good to know what the best they can do because I will speak to the CMA regardless. Like, I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I'll have conversations with them.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And, I mean,\n\nChannel 1: Great.\n\nChannel 0: obviously, it would be like, this is what we're proposing, but, you know, if if they had their if they had hoped of what they could get, they'd love to do this. What are your initial thoughts? Like, it it wouldn't be a\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: proper estimate from them, but at least then I could be like, okay. This is what they're concerned about. I can potentially mitigate that. You know what I mean? So I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I just tried to do it so it's like that. So any as much as as much information about what is the what you'd like tested or at least, like,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: in involved in, that's better for me.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Look. I I think that's excellent. I think that'll be well received as well because the challenge that we've had is we had a site meeting with council and, like, early, early on once we got their initial comments back. And and really because they've kind of almost conflicting comments where we had their own design guy saying, you you can build a bigger building here.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: And then and then the heritage adviser is saying, oh, we don't necessarily want that. And I was like, well, let's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: get on-site to kind of point out we got competing objectives here. And then I actually said I think it was the urban designer account, so I said to them, well, you know, you're saying you want a building right up to the creek here, but we've got flooding to deal with. And her eyes kinda glazed over as if to be like, oh, I've got no idea about that. So we're like, oh, here we go.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But but then, unfortunately, Council also gave our client a bit of a steer in terms of saying, oh, we can just have a casual chat with CMA and and get their feedback, which gave everyone a bit of confidence, but then obviously waited about six weeks. And then after that six weeks, they gave us, you know, that's part of that feedback, which I sent to you. But effectively, it didn't say much. And and fair enough, but it it said, you know, you're gonna have to come comfortable with a bit of modeling. So it's just that that situation now where I think the client in particular is thinking if they expect counsel to get any feedback out of CMA, it's gonna be very limited and come with heavy caveats.\n\nSo they'll\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: I think they'll be a lot happier that you might have a better a better way of of getting some advice, which obviously yep. Fair enough. It comes with some caveats, but it might be a bit more helpful than what what council was able to get, which was basically, you know, just ticking the boxes. And\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: it was just kind of a very, you know, a very ordered response back to back to the client, which, yeah, didn't didn't really help things, I guess, in terms of them feeling like the thing was moving along.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: and and I I think that's I mean, look. I I think it's also a problem with our industry is that that I I don't think a lot of engineers, those flood models that I know do go to the team early enough. But I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: think if you get what I found is when I get in early, I get much more leniency from them.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And and yeah. So I I'm I'm hoping that that that I mean, it's worked for me so far with the within the city of Bendigo. I've I've got a few projects got through\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Great.\n\nChannel 0: it. So,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's\n\nChannel 0: yeah,\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: it's not yeah. It's not yeah. Like, I mean, that's it's just the way I like to work. I mean, I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if you right. I'm I'm a small business, so I I wanna make sure that what I'm doing is gonna get approved because\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I don't really\n\nChannel 1: Look.\n\nChannel 0: like\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: until it come back to me.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. No. Look. Look.\n\nI yeah. I totally totally get that. And I think that that's that'll be music to our our client's ears because, you know, when when I went to them and just said, like, after we got that initial CMA stuff, I said to them, you're gonna need someone very good on this to help you get get over the over the hill.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And and one of Iva's comments was, you know, back to me, like, to me directly was, you need to get someone who knows what they're doing, which\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I was\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: like I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I thought it was a funny comment, but but I think yeah. You're exactly what you're saying is I think what he is after where yeah. He just wants someone just to kind of, you know, know how to to get it to work. And and I think those conversations that you might have with Summays, what he's kind of thinking or expecting and and he's after. So, yeah, I reckon that'll be pretty well received, to be honest.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Correct. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Great. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Good\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: stuff.\n\nChannel 0: and I I think I think we should be yeah. We should be good. I I look. There's there's site isn't there's site\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: isn't always lost. Like, I I I feel like even when we model it with the newer with with the survey and all that kind of stuff, I think that's probably gonna show a bit better than what it is already.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep. That's good to hear.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. I'd like that's that's my gut feeling for it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Great. No. Excellent. Alright.\n\nWell, yeah, if you're happy to to resend with just those little updates based on those\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: comments from yesterday, I'll soon as it lands, I'll forward it across to either. And then, yeah, we'll we'll just say like, I'll see if he's got any questions, but otherwise, I I imagine he'll just wanna sign you up pretty quickly, and his comment will be just just get going and give you whatever you need.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: So Okay. Yeah. So, look, we'll just do that and then, yeah, go from there, and I'll I'll assuming, yeah, you get get the thumbs up, then I'll loop you in with Ivan and Robert, his architects,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: and I guess we'll take it from there. And I saw in your quote, is it right the time frame of around six weeks? Again, obviously, it all depends on you being given everything you need and that type of thing. But is that is\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: that right?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: The six\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: weeks from,\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: like, you\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: get get given the green light to and hypothetically, if all the modeling goes okay, that that's probably, you know, six weeks time you get a report, which\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: will\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: support yeah. Okay. Yep. But I yeah. And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: think\n\nChannel 0: and,\n\nChannel 1: I'll\n\nChannel 0: look, it\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: we've been pretty close with those. Yeah, those problems.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Especially when we're getting the model. And the thing is, like, they\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: they sometimes they can take a little bit of time, but I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: know them again. So, hopefully,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's right.\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: It hopefully\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: will help.\n\nChannel 0: that's helped me in the past.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. No. Exactly. Well, that's well, I mean, to put it this way, like, you're we're not gonna get it any faster than you, and council's not gonna get any faster than you. That's for sure.\n\nSo any any any additional time savings you can get is, you know, is a bonus.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But but again, yeah, I think the main thing really be just the, you know, either the client knowing it's in good hands. I think he tends to have the right attitude on this, which is, you know, to get it right, take the time we need to get it right, not not to rush at the wrong moments. And so\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: I think that'll be the point, and that's obviously what I've been trying to strongly encourage him as well is just to be patient where he can be just to make sure that he's got the right, you know, approach. So I think that\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: should be fine. Yeah. Very\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: good. Alright,\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: Alex. Thank you. Well, no. I appreciate the call. And, yeah, I'll I'll just keep an eye out for your your updated quotes, and then, yeah, we'll we'll take it from there.\n\nBut fingers crossed, yeah, either gives you the the sign up quickly, and then we go from there.\n\nChannel 0: Easy. Done.\n\nChannel 1: Perfect.\n\nChannel 0: No worries.\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: I'll\n\nChannel 1: Thanks, Alex.\n\nChannel 0: I think somewhere in the site your site, I'll put in maybe at the bottom that this is we we we've done a a similar assessment, and the one sorry. The climate change scenario was comparable to a point five, which is what we were assume as the climate change condition or something like that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay. Yep. No. That that sounds good.\n\nGood good to have that clarity, I think. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Easy.\n\nChannel 1: Easy.\n\nChannel 0: No worries.\n\nChannel 1: Right. Sounds\n\nChannel 0: Thank\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: Thanks, Alex.\n\nChannel 0: Thank\n\nChannel 1: We'll speak\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: soon.\n\nChannel 0: Have a\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: good one.\n\nChannel 1: Cheers. You too. 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I can potentially mitigate that. You know what I mean? So I Yeah. I just tried to do it so it's like that. So any as much as as much information about what is the what you'd like tested or at least, like, Yeah. in involved in, that's better for me. Yeah.","start_word":1638,"end_word":1790,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07745090126991272},{"text":"Look. I I think that's excellent.","start_word":1791,"end_word":1796,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6241585612297058},{"text":"I think that'll be well received as well because the challenge that we've had is we had a site meeting with council and, like, early, early on once we got their initial comments back. And and really because they've kind of almost conflicting comments where we had their own design guy saying, you you can build a bigger building here. Yes. And then and then the heritage adviser is saying, oh, we don't necessarily want that. And I was like, well, let's Yeah. get on-site to kind of point out we got competing objectives here. And then I actually said I think it was the urban designer account, so I said to them, well, you know, you're saying you want a building right up to the creek here, but we've got flooding to deal with. And her eyes kinda glazed over as if to be like, oh, I've got no idea about that. So we're like, oh, here we go. Yeah. But but then, unfortunately, Council also gave our client a bit of a steer in terms of saying, oh, we can just have a casual chat with CMA and and get their feedback, which gave everyone a bit of confidence, but then obviously waited about six weeks. And then after that six weeks, they gave us, you know, that's part of that feedback, which I sent to you. But effectively, it didn't say much. And and fair enough, but it it said, you know, you're gonna have to come comfortable with a bit of modeling. 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And and I think those conversations that you might have with Summays, what he's kind of thinking or expecting and and he's after.","start_word":2303,"end_word":2532,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07299710512161255},{"text":"So, yeah, I reckon that'll be pretty well received, to be honest.","start_word":2533,"end_word":2544,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4637051820755005},{"text":"So Yeah. Correct. Yeah.","start_word":2545,"end_word":2548,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25425171852111816},{"text":"yeah. Great. Yeah. Good And stuff. and I I think I think we should be yeah. We should be good.","start_word":2549,"end_word":2568,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.47446662187576294},{"text":"I I look. There's there's site isn't there's site Yeah. isn't always lost. Like, I I I feel like even when we model it with the newer with with the survey and all that kind of stuff, I think that's probably gonna show a bit better than what it is already. Yeah. Yep.","start_word":2569,"end_word":2621,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.13315734267234802},{"text":"That's good to hear.","start_word":2622,"end_word":2625,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4499948620796203},{"text":"So Yeah. yeah. I'd like that's that's my gut feeling for it. Yeah. Great. No.","start_word":2626,"end_word":2640,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.27590519189834595},{"text":"Excellent.","start_word":2641,"end_word":2641,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.36072856187820435},{"text":"Alright. Well, yeah, if you're happy to to resend with just those little updates based on those Yeah. comments from yesterday, I'll soon as it lands, I'll forward it across to either. And then, yeah, we'll we'll just say like, I'll see if he's got any questions, but otherwise, I I imagine he'll just wanna sign you up pretty quickly, and his comment will be just just get going and give you whatever you need. Yes. So Okay. Yeah. So, look, we'll just do that and then, yeah, go from there, and I'll I'll assuming, yeah, you get get the thumbs up, then I'll loop you in with Ivan and Robert, his architects, Yes. and I guess we'll take it from there. And I saw in your quote, is it right the time frame of around six weeks? Again, obviously, it all depends on you being given everything you need and that type of thing. But is that is Yes. that right? Yeah. The six Yeah. weeks from, That's like, you right. get get given the green light to and hypothetically, if all the modeling goes okay, that that's probably, you know, six weeks time you get a report, which That's will right. support yeah. Okay. Yep. But I yeah. Yeah. And And I think and, I'll look, it yeah. we've been pretty close with those. Yeah, those problems. Yep. Especially when we're getting the model. And the thing is, like, they Yeah. they sometimes they can take a little bit of time, but I Yeah. know them again. So, hopefully, Yeah. That's right. that's It hopefully that's will help.","start_word":2642,"end_word":2911,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1108417760580778},{"text":"that's helped me in the past.","start_word":2912,"end_word":2917,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34620678424835205},{"text":"Yeah. No. Exactly. Well, that's well, I mean, to put it this way, like, you're we're not gonna get it any faster than you, and council's not gonna get any faster than you. That's for sure.","start_word":2918,"end_word":2953,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.12317762523889542},{"text":"So any any any additional time savings you can get is, you know, is a bonus.","start_word":2954,"end_word":2969,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.419363796710968},{"text":"Yeah. But but again, yeah, I think the main thing really be just the, you know, either the client knowing it's in good hands. I think he tends to have the right attitude on this, which is, you know, to get it right, take the time we need to get it right, not not to rush at the wrong moments. And so Yes.","start_word":2970,"end_word":3032,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.27798256278038025},{"text":"I think that'll be the point, and that's obviously what I've been trying to strongly encourage him as well is just to be patient where he can be just to make sure that he's got the right, you know, approach.","start_word":3033,"end_word":3072,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.33352336287498474},{"text":"So I think that Yeah. should be fine. Yeah.","start_word":3073,"end_word":3081,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1560375690460205},{"text":"Very Yes. good. Alright, Perfect. Alex. Thank you.","start_word":3082,"end_word":3089,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4280957877635956},{"text":"Well, no.","start_word":3090,"end_word":3091,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25078243017196655},{"text":"I appreciate the call.","start_word":3092,"end_word":3095,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.39876535534858704},{"text":"And, yeah, I'll I'll just keep an eye out for your your updated quotes, and then, yeah, we'll we'll take it from there. But fingers crossed, yeah, either gives you the the sign up quickly, and then we go from there. Easy.","start_word":3096,"end_word":3137,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22904951870441437},{"text":"Done. Perfect.","start_word":3138,"end_word":3139,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.38135287165641785},{"text":"No worries. Right. I'll Thanks, Alex. I think somewhere in the site your site, I'll put in maybe at the bottom that this is we we we've done a a similar assessment, and the one sorry. The climate change scenario was comparable to a point five, which is what we were assume as the climate change condition or something like that. Yeah. Okay. Yep. No.","start_word":3140,"end_word":3204,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08133529843046115},{"text":"That that sounds good. Good good to have that clarity, I think.","start_word":3205,"end_word":3216,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5727047324180603},{"text":"Yeah. Yep.","start_word":3217,"end_word":3218,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2559574842453003},{"text":"Easy. Easy.","start_word":3219,"end_word":3220,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3853297829627991},{"text":"No worries.","start_word":3221,"end_word":3222,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.30760496854782104},{"text":"Right. Sounds Thank good. you. Thanks, Alex. Thank We'll speak you. soon. Have a Right. good one. Cheers. You too.","start_word":3223,"end_word":3242,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5427727103233337},{"text":"Bye. Bye.","start_word":3243,"end_word":3244,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2012873142957687}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0772426894305184}}}}