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Obviously, we we're here to work around you as well at the end of the day, so that's alright. In regards to the booking there today, Nelson, if I could pass through security with that name, date of birth, and current address, we can get stuck into that one. Perfect. And I do have to let you know these calls are recorded for quality and training purposes there as well there. Now I know we were scheduled in just to review the Benelung again and see how that's tracking. Now the Benelung itself, it hasn't been doing much in the time frame since we spoke at the end of last year. With that as well, there was a bit of a dip in your portfolio just purely because of the cyber hack investment there. So I don't know if you're aware or not, but AI, crypto and just any sort of technology based companies have taken a bit of a dip the the past month. So that coupled with Benelon not doing much, your portfolio has taken a little bit of a dip, but not too far from where we originally had discussions anyway. Because as I said, Benelon hasn't really moved in terms of, like, the ups or the downs. In regards to your portfolio, there is well, Nelson, I was just reviewing it. Now it seems that the trade for that crypto that you signed the TWA for did not go through for some reason, and then it just wasn't picked up over the the holiday break period there as well. Now the good news with that is that the crypto investment actually is down given that everything went down the past month from when you would have invested in it previously. Now we can action that trade for you to be able to go into it now. And if anything, you're you're buying the dip more so than when you would have because you would have been down with that as well. Is that something you wanna proceed with as well? Okay. So I read the t w way where I think there, sir. I'll just double check. I have so I'll just double check the TWA again for what that is. I have a TW here dated for the oh, no. That was the twenty ninth to the fourth that's come up. Sorry. I'm just double check. I've got the wrong one up there. I'll double check the one then. So I think when I opened the document, it brought up the previous crypto, like one that was saying to buy into it, not the one that was to sell out of it. There as well. Yep. So I've gotten that one backwards. Sorry. So that one trade did go through. I'm sorry about that. Sorry to confuse you. I just noticed that was made at November in terms of buying into it. So that has, yeah, sorry, gone through. I'm sorry to confuse you there, Nelson Nelson. I was just yeah. Apologies. But the first part of that, obviously, is the the same what from what we're previously discussing there, sorry, was with the in regards to the Ben Long not changing much. And then, obviously, the hacked cybersecurity side of things, that investment has taken a little bit of a dip. Being that it is not a huge weighting in your portfolio, and it doesn't mean a huge amount in terms of, like, a dollar figure. But in saying that, it does mean that it has gone down a bit slightly from that negative return there in the past month from the cyber hack investment there, and Bennelong hasn't recovered. So, yeah, the the purpose of the phone call there, sorry, was to basically see if you wanted to remain holding the Benelon for a little bit longer or if you wanna actually look at replacing that with an alternative or look at refreshing the portfolio as a whole. Yep. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Obviously, like, the key holdings would be that the investments that have gone in previous to that might not be the twelve months, but the key, like, amount of because, obviously, you bought in, like, over twelve months ago in terms of, like, your balance. So the majority of your portfolio would be eligible for, like, that discount, whereas the ones that are bought in from your contributions going in might not, but that's sort of minimal in terms of, like, the dollar figure compared to the the total amount. Now in regards to the bear long two, given it's taken a loss as well, that would be some losses that could offset some of the capital gains as well. Now when it comes to investments and, like, reducing risk or not, so there's a number of ways you can reduce risk. So with that one, you are a high growth portfolio, which is about that ninety ten split. Now with that one there being the ninety ten, it's about 90% growth, that's about 10% defensive asset. So within that 90%, the portfolio that is Ben Long, it's an actively managed fund. So you also have active risk within that or actively managed risk or management risk, which you don't have to carry. You can look at more indexed investments where you don't hold the the manage aspect of that and still maintain about a ninety ten split to growth assets versus defensive. You just don't carry any sort of managed funds. Or, like you said, you can look at reducing your exposure entirely and going down, like, to maybe, like, a growth, which is, like, an eighty twenty split. Not to say that the investments change a huge deal, but within that, you have still 80% allocated to growth and 20¢ defensive. But you can still have the active manage risk in that or more passive approach. The passive approach is a bit cheaper, but the managed one there as well aims to outperform the market. Obviously, it doesn't always work out that way, especially, you know, what happened with Venalong. But in saying that if you do the indexed investments, you'll only ever perform as well as the markets as a whole are performing given that it just follows the industry market indexes or what indexes you have in those exchange traded funds. Yep. Yep. Yep. So the the benefit that you have there, Nelson, with yourself is you've got time on your side. So in regards to being able to access your retirement funds, you've got, like, twenty five years a bit more before you can touch it. Now, obviously, having an allocation to a higher growth, you do experience a lot more fluctuations in the short term. But over that ten to twenty year period, if you do hold those investments, having those higher allocations to growth even with those bullet volatile fluctuations of ups and downs, they do end up higher over that sort of time span than, like, having the more defensive side of things. Obviously, with gold and silver at the moment with how they've tracked it, it's a bit of an outlier, but there are also alternatives. But if you will look to more defensive portions like having it in fixed interest, cash, those sorts of types of investments, they only ever really sort of keep pace maybe a little bit more than inflation, sometimes less than inflation, which means that you're not entirely getting the returns out of those over those long term periods. Now during those market dips and volatile drops in the market, they may hold more value than those growth investments. But over the long term, those growth investments tend to return higher and than the what you would have if you were just sort of solely in, like, those more defensive aspects or sort of investments. Now with that as well there, Nelson, it's, like, not pushing you against it. You can obviously look at going a little bit more defensive. But given your time horizon, you can definitely still afford to take on that risk, but it's what you're comfortable at the end of the day there as well. We can look at an alternative investment and just put it like in an either an index alternative or, like, another actively managed fund so it's not just sitting in cash. Or, like, if you just wanna do a cash, we can just do a transaction with that advice to sell it to cash and leave it there. You don't want to reinvest in the fund? You don't want to put in an alternative indexed investment at all? You just want to leave it sitting there in cash? Yep. Well, in terms of your portfolio, it still is like, you know, quite a significant weighting of it that will be sitting in cash, like 5.7% plus, like, what was ever sitting in the minimum. So I can sell that to cash and then would have to turn off the the auto trade. What how long were you looking to load, like, sort of in cash without sort of reviewing your investments there, Nelson? Like, when you want us to sort of follow-up and see when you might want to look at reinvesting or, like, one to, like, three months sort of thing? Because, obviously, like, it's fine if you want to leave it in cash, but we obviously want to sort of follow-up and review things and look at sort of potentially getting it reinvested into something else. Reach out in April and see how you feel about things? Yep. And you're happy leaving everything else as is for now until, like, we reach out in April apart from selling down the Benelon? Okay. That's no problem. And is there anything else that you wanted to have a chat about while you've got me there in regards to your other investments? Or Yep. Not a problem. And anything else that you wanna have a chat about in in general while you've got me on the phone? Not a problem. Sorry for the confusion at the start there. My computer must be playing tricks on me when I clicked on the most up to date t b t w a TWA. So it brought up the twenty twenty four one, so I'm not too sure why it's doing that. I'll have to look into that as well, but apologies for that one to give you that little scare. But, yeah, that that silver has gone through there as well. So not a problem. I'll put a reminder in to reach out in April and see how things are traveling there with you. Not a problem at all. Well, you enjoy the rest of your day there, Nelson. Thanks for your time. Thanks. 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Sorry there. How are you today there, Nelson? Yeah. No.\n\nThat that's that's perfectly fine. Yeah. Obviously, we we're here to work around you as well at the end of the day, so that's alright. In regards to the booking there today, Nelson, if I could pass through security with that name, date of birth, and current address, we can get stuck into that one. Perfect.\n\nAnd I do have to let you know these calls are recorded for quality and training purposes there as well there. Now I know we were scheduled in just to review the Benelung again and see how that's tracking. Now the Benelung itself, it hasn't been doing much in the time frame since we spoke at the end of last year. With that as well, there was a bit of a dip in your portfolio just purely because of the cyber hack investment there. So I don't know if you're aware or not, but AI, crypto and just any sort of technology based companies have taken a bit of a dip the the past month.\n\nSo that coupled with Benelon not doing much, your portfolio has taken a little bit of a dip, but not too far from where we originally had discussions anyway. Because as I said, Benelon hasn't really moved in terms of, like, the ups or the downs. In regards to your portfolio, there is well, Nelson, I was just reviewing it. Now it seems that the trade for that crypto that you signed the TWA for did not go through for some reason, and then it just wasn't picked up over the the holiday break period there as well. Now the good news with that is that the crypto investment actually is down given that everything went down the past month from when you would have invested in it previously.\n\nNow we can action that trade for you to be able to go into it now. And if anything, you're you're buying the dip more so than when you would have because you would have been down with that as well. Is that something you wanna proceed with as well? Okay. So I read the t w way where I think there, sir.\n\nI'll just double check. I have so I'll just double check the TWA again for what that is. I have a TW here dated for the oh, no. That was the twenty ninth to the fourth that's come up. Sorry.\n\nI'm just double check. I've got the wrong one up there. I'll double check the one then. So I think when I opened the document, it brought up the previous crypto, like one that was saying to buy into it, not the one that was to sell out of it. There as well.\n\nYep. So I've gotten that one backwards. Sorry. So that one trade did go through. I'm sorry about that.\n\nSorry to confuse you. I just noticed that was made at November in terms of buying into it. So that has, yeah, sorry, gone through. I'm sorry to confuse you there, Nelson Nelson. I was just yeah.\n\nApologies. But the first part of that, obviously, is the the same what from what we're previously discussing there, sorry, was with the in regards to the Ben Long not changing much. And then, obviously, the hacked cybersecurity side of things, that investment has taken a little bit of a dip. Being that it is not a huge weighting in your portfolio, and it doesn't mean a huge amount in terms of, like, a dollar figure. But in saying that, it does mean that it has gone down a bit slightly from that negative return there in the past month from the cyber hack investment there, and Bennelong hasn't recovered.\n\nSo, yeah, the the purpose of the phone call there, sorry, was to basically see if you wanted to remain holding the Benelon for a little bit longer or if you wanna actually look at replacing that with an alternative or look at refreshing the portfolio as a whole. Yep. Mhmm. Yep. Yeah.\n\nYep. Obviously, like, the key holdings would be that the investments that have gone in previous to that might not be the twelve months, but the key, like, amount of because, obviously, you bought in, like, over twelve months ago in terms of, like, your balance. So the majority of your portfolio would be eligible for, like, that discount, whereas the ones that are bought in from your contributions going in might not, but that's sort of minimal in terms of, like, the dollar figure compared to the the total amount. Now in regards to the bear long two, given it's taken a loss as well, that would be some losses that could offset some of the capital gains as well. Now when it comes to investments and, like, reducing risk or not, so there's a number of ways you can reduce risk.\n\nSo with that one, you are a high growth portfolio, which is about that ninety ten split. Now with that one there being the ninety ten, it's about 90% growth, that's about 10% defensive asset. So within that 90%, the portfolio that is Ben Long, it's an actively managed fund. So you also have active risk within that or actively managed risk or management risk, which you don't have to carry. You can look at more indexed investments where you don't hold the the manage aspect of that and still maintain about a ninety ten split to growth assets versus defensive.\n\nYou just don't carry any sort of managed funds. Or, like you said, you can look at reducing your exposure entirely and going down, like, to maybe, like, a growth, which is, like, an eighty twenty split. Not to say that the investments change a huge deal, but within that, you have still 80% allocated to growth and 20¢ defensive. But you can still have the active manage risk in that or more passive approach. The passive approach is a bit cheaper, but the managed one there as well aims to outperform the market.\n\nObviously, it doesn't always work out that way, especially, you know, what happened with Venalong. But in saying that if you do the indexed investments, you'll only ever perform as well as the markets as a whole are performing given that it just follows the industry market indexes or what indexes you have in those exchange traded funds. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nSo the the benefit that you have there, Nelson, with yourself is you've got time on your side. So in regards to being able to access your retirement funds, you've got, like, twenty five years a bit more before you can touch it. Now, obviously, having an allocation to a higher growth, you do experience a lot more fluctuations in the short term. But over that ten to twenty year period, if you do hold those investments, having those higher allocations to growth even with those bullet volatile fluctuations of ups and downs, they do end up higher over that sort of time span than, like, having the more defensive side of things. Obviously, with gold and silver at the moment with how they've tracked it, it's a bit of an outlier, but there are also alternatives.\n\nBut if you will look to more defensive portions like having it in fixed interest, cash, those sorts of types of investments, they only ever really sort of keep pace maybe a little bit more than inflation, sometimes less than inflation, which means that you're not entirely getting the returns out of those over those long term periods. Now during those market dips and volatile drops in the market, they may hold more value than those growth investments. But over the long term, those growth investments tend to return higher and than the what you would have if you were just sort of solely in, like, those more defensive aspects or sort of investments. Now with that as well there, Nelson, it's, like, not pushing you against it. You can obviously look at going a little bit more defensive.\n\nBut given your time horizon, you can definitely still afford to take on that risk, but it's what you're comfortable at the end of the day there as well. We can look at an alternative investment and just put it like in an either an index alternative or, like, another actively managed fund so it's not just sitting in cash. Or, like, if you just wanna do a cash, we can just do a transaction with that advice to sell it to cash and leave it there. You don't want to reinvest in the fund? You don't want to put in an alternative indexed investment at all?\n\nYou just want to leave it sitting there in cash? Yep. Well, in terms of your portfolio, it still is like, you know, quite a significant weighting of it that will be sitting in cash, like 5.7% plus, like, what was ever sitting in the minimum. So I can sell that to cash and then would have to turn off the the auto trade. What how long were you looking to load, like, sort of in cash without sort of reviewing your investments there, Nelson?\n\nLike, when you want us to sort of follow-up and see when you might want to look at reinvesting or, like, one to, like, three months sort of thing? Because, obviously, like, it's fine if you want to leave it in cash, but we obviously want to sort of follow-up and review things and look at sort of potentially getting it reinvested into something else. Reach out in April and see how you feel about things? Yep. And you're happy leaving everything else as is for now until, like, we reach out in April apart from selling down the Benelon?\n\nOkay. That's no problem. And is there anything else that you wanted to have a chat about while you've got me there in regards to your other investments? Or Yep. Not a problem.\n\nAnd anything else that you wanna have a chat about in in general while you've got me on the phone? Not a problem. Sorry for the confusion at the start there. My computer must be playing tricks on me when I clicked on the most up to date t b t w a TWA. So it brought up the twenty twenty four one, so I'm not too sure why it's doing that.\n\nI'll have to look into that as well, but apologies for that one to give you that little scare. But, yeah, that that silver has gone through there as well. So not a problem. I'll put a reminder in to reach out in April and see how things are traveling there with you. Not a problem at all.\n\nWell, you enjoy the rest of your day there, Nelson. Thanks for your time. Thanks. Bye.","paragraphs":[{"sentences":[{"text":"Good afternoon oh, good good morning.","start":4.16,"end":6.08,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5431866894165674},{"text":"Sorry there.","start":6.08,"end":6.8999996,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.29424233734607697},{"text":"How are you today there, Nelson?","start":7.52,"end":9.22,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22264050568143526},{"text":"Yeah.","start":14.655001,"end":15.055,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05912546440958977},{"text":"No.","start":15.055,"end":15.295,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.01486213132739067}],"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.32858971506357193,"num_words":16,"start":4.16,"end":15.295},{"sentences":[{"text":"That that's that's perfectly fine.","start":15.295,"end":17.075,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2497926563024521},{"text":"Yeah.","start":17.535,"end":17.695,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.21105732023715973},{"text":"Obviously, we 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Your car? Yeah. Good. Thank you. Sorry. I missed your call so many times on, I think it was Monday. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Date of birth is 06/29/1991, and address is Unit 3, Street Number 15, Pickwick Street, Cannon Hill. Yes. Wait. Wait. So hold on. I'm just gonna go jump into my portfolio now because I thought that I think last year, I mentioned to you guys to sell off all my crypto related holdings, and then we bought silver. Right? Did that are you saying that didn't go through? Because I do. Because I do have a holdings of ETPMAG, which is silver, so that I do have a holdings for that. At the moment, I can see my portfolio because I'm in the back end at the moment. And then, yeah, I'll just let you catch up to see what's going on in your end. Right. Okay. Yep. Yeah. You may be quite concerned. Yeah. Because I think I think from what I when I first started doing when I first signed up with you guys, you guys obviously had to do, like, a profile, like, assessment. And afterwards, I chose that I wanted to be more risk on because if anything were to happen, I do have time to, like, recover. So but if I were to consider to move more into, like, a conservative portfolio, like, what would that look like? And because I know that, I think, from our last conversation as well, that there's a there's a lot of, I guess, like, some of the holdings that I have, it's over a year now. So afterwards, the, I guess, like, the tax that we're gonna be paying on those, it's not gonna be as much if we were to hold it less than twelve months. And so with with the holdings that I have at the moment, I've most I don't expect silver because silver, we executed that trade last year. But the rest of the holdings, are they over the twelve twelve month period? Yeah. Because I think I wanted to maybe at some point this at some point this this year I don't know. Because, obviously, I'm in the market quite a bit, and I'm just having my own opinions on certain things. 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Your car? Yeah. Good. Thank you.\n\nSorry. I missed your call so many times on, I think it was Monday. Yeah. Okay. Okay.\n\nDate of birth is 06/29/1991, and address is Unit 3, Street Number 15, Pickwick Street, Cannon Hill. Yes. Wait. Wait. So hold on.\n\nI'm just gonna go jump into my portfolio now because I thought that I think last year, I mentioned to you guys to sell off all my crypto related holdings, and then we bought silver. Right? Did that are you saying that didn't go through? Because I do. Because I do have a holdings of ETPMAG, which is silver, so that I do have a holdings for that.\n\nAt the moment, I can see my portfolio because I'm in the back end at the moment. And then, yeah, I'll just let you catch up to see what's going on in your end. Right. Okay. Yep.\n\nYeah. You may be quite concerned. Yeah. Because I think I think from what I when I first started doing when I first signed up with you guys, you guys obviously had to do, like, a profile, like, assessment. 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Your\n\nChannel 0: Good afternoon oh, good good morning. Sorry there. How are you today\n\nChannel 1: car?\n\nChannel 0: there, Nelson?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good. Thank you. Sorry. I missed your call so many times on, I think it was Monday.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. No. That that's that's perfectly fine. Yeah. Obviously, we we're here to work around you as well at the end of the day, so that's alright.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: In regards to the booking there today, Nelson, if I could pass through security with that name, date of birth, and current address, we can get stuck into that one.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Okay. Date of birth is 06/29/1991, and address is Unit 3, Street Number 15, Pickwick Street, Cannon Hill.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. And I do have to let you know these calls are recorded for quality and training purposes there as well there. Now I know we were scheduled in just to review the Benelung again and see how that's tracking. Now the Benelung itself, it hasn't been doing much in the time frame since we spoke at the end of last year.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: With that as well, there was a bit of a dip in your portfolio just purely because of the cyber hack investment there. So I don't know if you're aware or not, but AI, crypto and just any sort of technology based companies have taken a bit of a dip the the past month. So that coupled with Benelon not doing much, your portfolio has taken a little bit of a dip, but not too far from where we originally had discussions anyway. Because as I said, Benelon hasn't really moved in terms of, like, the ups or the downs. In regards to your portfolio, there is well, Nelson, I was just reviewing it.\n\nNow it seems that the trade for that crypto that you signed the TWA for did not go through for some reason, and then it just wasn't picked up over the the holiday break period there as well. Now the good news with that is that the crypto investment actually is down given that everything went down the past month from when you would have invested in it previously. Now we can action that trade for you to be able to go into it now. And if anything, you're you're buying the dip more so than when you would have because you would have been down with that as well. Is that something you wanna proceed with as well?\n\nChannel 1: Wait. Wait. So hold on. I'm just gonna go jump into my portfolio now because I thought that I think last year, I mentioned to you guys to sell off all my crypto related holdings, and then we bought silver. Right?\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So I read the t w way where I think there, sir. I'll just double check.\n\nChannel 1: Did that are you saying that didn't go through?\n\nChannel 0: I have so I'll just double check the TWA again for what that is. I have a TW\n\nChannel 1: Because I\n\nChannel 0: here\n\nChannel 1: do.\n\nChannel 0: dated for the oh, no. That was the twenty ninth to the fourth that's come up. Sorry. I'm just double check. I've got the wrong one up there.\n\nI'll double check the one then.\n\nChannel 1: Because I do have a holdings of ETPMAG, which is silver, so that I do have a holdings for that. At the moment, I can see my portfolio because I'm in the back end at the moment. And then, yeah, I'll just let you catch up to see what's going on in your end.\n\nChannel 0: So I think when I opened the document, it brought up the previous crypto, like one that was saying to buy into it, not the one that was to sell out of it.\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: There as well.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. So I've gotten that one backwards. Sorry. So that one trade did go through. I'm sorry about that.\n\nSorry to confuse you. I just noticed that was made at November in terms of\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: buying into it. So that has, yeah, sorry, gone through. I'm sorry to confuse you there, Nelson Nelson. I was just\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. You may be quite concerned.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Apologies. But the first part of that, obviously, is the the same what from what we're previously discussing there, sorry, was with the in regards to the Ben Long not changing much. And then, obviously, the hacked cybersecurity side of things, that investment has taken a little bit of a dip. Being that it is not a huge weighting in your portfolio, and it doesn't mean a huge amount in terms of, like, a dollar figure.\n\nBut in saying that, it does mean that it has gone down a bit slightly from that negative return there in the past month from the cyber hack investment there, and Bennelong hasn't recovered. So, yeah, the the purpose of the phone call there, sorry, was to basically see if you wanted to remain holding the Benelon for a little bit longer or if you wanna actually look at replacing that with an alternative or look at refreshing the portfolio as a whole.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because I think I think from what I when I first started doing when I first signed up with you guys, you guys obviously had to do, like, a profile,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: like, assessment.\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: And afterwards, I chose that I wanted to be more risk on because if anything were to happen, I do have time to, like, recover.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So but if I were to consider to move more into, like, a conservative portfolio, like, what would that look like? And because I know that, I think, from our last conversation as well, that there's a there's a lot of, I guess, like, some of the holdings that I have, it's over a year now. So afterwards, the, I guess, like, the tax that we're gonna be paying on those, it's not gonna be as much if we were to hold it less than twelve months. And so with\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: with the holdings that I have at the moment, I've most I don't expect silver because silver, we executed that trade last year.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: But the rest of the holdings, are they over the twelve twelve month period?\n\nChannel 0: Obviously, like, the key holdings would be that the investments that have gone in previous to that might not be the twelve months, but the key, like, amount of because, obviously, you bought in, like, over twelve months ago in terms of, like, your balance. So the majority of your portfolio would be eligible for, like, that discount, whereas the ones that are bought in from your contributions going in might not, but that's sort of minimal in terms of, like, the dollar figure compared to the the total amount. Now in regards to the bear long two, given it's taken a loss as well, that would be some losses that could offset some of the capital gains as well. Now when it comes to investments and, like, reducing risk or not, so there's a number of ways you can reduce risk. So with that one, you are a high growth portfolio, which is about that ninety ten split.\n\nNow with that one there being the ninety ten, it's about 90% growth, that's about 10% defensive asset. So within that 90%, the portfolio that is Ben Long, it's an actively managed fund. So you also have active risk within that or actively managed risk or management risk, which you don't have to carry. You can look at more indexed investments where you don't hold the the manage aspect of that and still maintain about a ninety ten split to growth assets versus defensive. You just don't carry any sort of managed funds.\n\nOr, like you said, you can look at reducing your exposure entirely and going down, like, to maybe, like, a growth, which is, like, an eighty twenty split. Not to say that the investments change a huge deal, but within that, you have still 80% allocated to growth and 20¢ defensive. But you can still have the active manage risk in that or more passive approach. The passive approach is a bit cheaper, but the managed one there as well aims to outperform the market. Obviously, it doesn't always work out that way, especially, you know, what happened with Venalong.\n\nBut in saying that if you do the indexed investments, you'll only ever perform as well as the markets as a whole are performing given that it just follows the industry market indexes or what indexes you have in those exchange traded funds.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because I think I wanted to maybe at some point this at some point this this year I don't know. Because, obviously, I'm in the market quite a bit, and I'm just having my own opinions on certain things.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So, like yeah. Because yeah. I I won't I'm still considering whether or not if I want to go to more of a, like, more of a conservative portfolio for the time being. Like but I'm still just it's it's just something that I'm just voicing out to you at the moment because, I guess, it's just like I'm just trying to communicate with you so you can get like, if we were to communicate later on and we were to have something happen, then you're already well aware of that.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So the the benefit that you have there, Nelson, with yourself is you've got time on your side. So in regards to being able to access your retirement funds, you've got, like, twenty five years a bit more before you can touch it. Now, obviously, having an allocation to a higher growth, you do experience a lot more fluctuations in the short term. But over that ten to twenty year period, if you do hold those investments, having those higher allocations to growth even with those bullet volatile fluctuations of ups and downs, they do end up higher over that sort of time span than, like, having the more defensive side of things. Obviously, with gold and silver at the moment with how they've tracked it, it's a bit of an outlier, but there are also alternatives.\n\nBut if you will look to more defensive portions like having it in fixed interest, cash, those sorts of types of investments, they only ever really sort of keep pace maybe a little bit more than inflation, sometimes less than inflation, which means that you're not entirely getting the returns out of those over those long term periods. Now during those market dips and volatile drops in the market, they may hold more value than those growth investments. But over the long term, those growth investments tend to return higher and than the what you would have if you were just sort of solely in, like, those more defensive aspects or sort of investments. Now with that as well there, Nelson, it's, like, not pushing you against it. You can obviously look at going a little bit more defensive.\n\nBut given your time horizon, you can definitely still afford to take on that risk, but it's what you're comfortable at the end of the day there as well.\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. I just yeah. I was still gonna have to I'm still considering still considering the panel.\n\nI think for now, just for the better long, just keep that I reckon just sell it off and just put it cash. That's\n\nChannel 0: We can look at an alternative\n\nChannel 1: Chris?\n\nChannel 0: investment and just put it like in an either an index alternative or, like, another actively managed fund so it's not just sitting in cash. Or, like, if you just wanna do a cash, we can just do a transaction with that advice to sell it to cash and leave it there.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I just keep it, I reckon, as a discussion for today, to sell off the Benelon and afterwards just put into cash.\n\nChannel 0: You don't want to reinvest in the fund? You don't want to put in an alternative indexed investment at all? You just want to leave it sitting there in cash?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Leave it sitting there in cash. Just I know it's not I know it's not much money, but it's it's just I just feel comfortable with it being cash to money.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Well, in terms of your portfolio, it still is like, you know, quite a significant weighting of it that will be sitting in cash, like 5.7% plus, like, what was ever sitting in the minimum. So I can sell that to cash and then would have to turn off the the auto trade. What how long were you looking to load, like, sort of in cash without sort of reviewing your investments there, Nelson?\n\nChannel 1: I couldn't give you a time frame at the moment.\n\nChannel 0: Like, when you want us to sort of follow-up and see when you might want to look at reinvesting or,\n\nChannel 1: I couldn't give you a time frame at the moment.\n\nChannel 0: like, one to, like, three months sort of thing? Because, obviously, like, it's fine if you want to leave it in cash, but we obviously want to sort of follow-up and review things and look at sort of potentially getting it reinvested into something else.\n\nChannel 1: At the April.\n\nChannel 0: Reach out in April and see\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: how you feel about things?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. And you're happy leaving everything else as is for now until, like, we reach out in April apart from selling down the Benelon?\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. That's no problem. And is there anything else that you wanted to have a chat about while you've got me there in regards to your other investments? Or\n\nChannel 1: Not from the menu.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Not a problem. And anything else that you wanna have a chat about in in general while you've got me on the phone?\n\nChannel 1: No. Nope. That's pretty much it.\n\nChannel 0: Not a problem. Sorry for the confusion at the start there. My computer must be playing tricks on me when I clicked on the most up to date t b t w a TWA. So it brought up the twenty twenty four one, so I'm not too sure why it's doing that. I'll have to look into that as well, but apologies for that one to give you that little scare.\n\nBut,\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, that that silver has gone through there as well. So not a problem. I'll put a reminder in to reach out in April and see how things are traveling there with you.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Fantastic.\n\nChannel 0: Not a problem at all. Well, you enjoy the rest of your day there, Nelson. Thanks for your time.\n\nChannel 1: Thanks, Kyle.\n\nChannel 0: Thanks. 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The representative explains that the customer's portfolio has taken a dip due to a cyber hack investment and that the company is waiting to review the Benelung again. They discuss managing the portfolio and reducing risk, emphasizing the importance of managing the portfolio and the benefits of being a high-growth portfolio. The speaker is still considering selling the Benelon and putting it into cash, but is happy to leave everything else as is for now until the April meeting."},"intents":{"segments":[{"text":"In regards to the booking there today, Nelson, if I could pass through security with that name, date of birth, and current address, we can get stuck into that one. Okay. 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Date of birth is 06/29/1991, and address is Unit 3, Street Number 15, Pickwick Street, Cannon Hill.","start_word":21,"end_word":111,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10443631559610368},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":112,"end_word":112,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5154410600662231},{"text":"And I do have to let you know these calls are recorded for quality and training purposes there as well there. Now I know we were scheduled in just to review the Benelung again and see how that's tracking. Now the Benelung itself, it hasn't been doing much in the time frame since we spoke at the end of last year. Yes. With that as well, there was a bit of a dip in your portfolio just purely because of the cyber hack investment there. So I don't know if you're aware or not, but AI, crypto and just any sort of technology based companies have taken a bit of a dip the the past month. So that coupled with Benelon not doing much, your portfolio has taken a little bit of a dip, but not too far from where we originally had discussions anyway. Because as I said, Benelon hasn't really moved in terms of, like, the ups or the downs. In regards to your portfolio, there is well, Nelson, I was just reviewing it. Now it seems that the trade for that crypto that you signed the TWA for did not go through for some reason, and then it just wasn't picked up over the the holiday break period there as well. Now the good news with that is that the crypto investment actually is down given that everything went down the past month from when you would have invested in it previously.","start_word":113,"end_word":357,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1602375048763898},{"text":"Now we can action that trade for you to be able to go into it now.","start_word":358,"end_word":373,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3775433599948883},{"text":"And if anything, you're you're buying the dip more so than when you would have because you would have been down with that as well. Is that something you wanna proceed with as well? Wait. Wait. So hold on. I'm just gonna go jump into my portfolio now because I thought that I think last year, I mentioned to you guys to sell off all my crypto related holdings, and then we bought silver. Right? Okay. So I read the t w way where I think there, sir. I'll just double check. Did that are you saying that didn't go through? I have so I'll just double check the TWA again for what that is. I have a TW Because I here do. dated for the oh, no. That was the twenty ninth to the fourth that's come up. Sorry. I'm just double check. I've got the wrong one up there. I'll double check the one then. Because I do have a holdings of ETPMAG, which is silver, so that I do have a holdings for that. At the moment, I can see my portfolio because I'm in the back end at the moment. And then, yeah, I'll just let you catch up to see what's going on in your end. So I think when I opened the document, it brought up the previous crypto, like one that was saying to buy into it, not the one that was to sell out of it. Right. There as well. Okay. Yep. So I've gotten that one backwards. Sorry. So that one trade did go through. I'm sorry about that. Sorry to confuse you. I just noticed that was made at November in terms of Yep. buying into it. So that has, yeah, sorry, gone through. I'm sorry to confuse you there, Nelson Nelson. I was just Yeah. You may be quite concerned. yeah. Apologies. But the first part of that, obviously, is the the same what from what we're previously discussing there, sorry, was with the in regards to the Ben Long not changing much.","start_word":374,"end_word":717,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.05053865383270868},{"text":"And then, obviously, the hacked cybersecurity side of things, that investment has taken a little bit of a dip.","start_word":718,"end_word":736,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4153032600879669},{"text":"Being that it is not a huge weighting in your portfolio, and it doesn't mean a huge amount in terms of, like, a dollar figure.","start_word":737,"end_word":761,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.3063643276691437},{"text":"But in saying that, it does mean that it has gone down a bit slightly from that negative return there in the past month from the cyber hack investment there, and Bennelong hasn't recovered.","start_word":762,"end_word":795,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.46040078997612},{"text":"So, yeah, the the purpose of the phone call there, sorry, was to basically see if you wanted to remain holding the Benelon for a little bit longer or if you wanna actually look at replacing that with an alternative or look at refreshing the portfolio as a whole. Yeah. Because I think I think from what I when I first started doing when I first signed up with you guys, you guys obviously had to do, like, a profile, Yep. like, assessment. Mhmm. And afterwards, I chose that I wanted to be more risk on because if anything were to happen, I do have time to, like, recover. Yep. So but if I were to consider to move more into, like, a conservative portfolio, like, what would that look like? And because I know that, I think, from our last conversation as well, that there's a there's a lot of, I guess, like, some of the holdings that I have, it's over a year now. So afterwards, the, I guess, like, the tax that we're gonna be paying on those, it's not gonna be as much if we were to hold it less than twelve months. And so with Yeah. with the holdings that I have at the moment, I've most I don't expect silver because silver, we executed that trade last year. Yep. But the rest of the holdings, are they over the twelve twelve month period? Obviously, like, the key holdings would be that the investments that have gone in previous to that might not be the twelve months, but the key, like, amount of because, obviously, you bought in, like, over twelve months ago in terms of, like, your balance. So the majority of your portfolio would be eligible for, like, that discount, whereas the ones that are bought in from your contributions going in might not, but that's sort of minimal in terms of, like, the dollar figure compared to the the total amount.","start_word":796,"end_word":1124,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.042854109365708194},{"text":"Now in regards to the bear long two, given it's taken a loss as well, that would be some losses that could offset some of the capital gains as well.","start_word":1125,"end_word":1154,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3382234275341034},{"text":"Now when it comes to investments and, like, reducing risk or not, so there's a number of ways you can reduce risk. So with that one, you are a high growth portfolio, which is about that ninety ten split. Now with that one there being the ninety ten, it's about 90% growth, that's about 10% defensive asset. So within that 90%, the portfolio that is Ben Long, it's an actively managed fund. So you also have active risk within that or actively managed risk or management risk, which you don't have to carry. You can look at more indexed investments where you don't hold the the manage aspect of that and still maintain about a ninety ten split to growth assets versus defensive. You just don't carry any sort of managed funds. Or, like you said, you can look at reducing your exposure entirely and going down, like, to maybe, like, a growth, which is, like, an eighty twenty split. Not to say that the investments change a huge deal, but within that, you have still 80% allocated to growth and 20<unk> defensive. But you can still have the active manage risk in that or more passive approach.","start_word":1155,"end_word":1352,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.18168291660270303},{"text":"The passive approach is a bit cheaper, but the managed one there as well aims to outperform the market.","start_word":1353,"end_word":1371,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5492681264877319},{"text":"Obviously, it doesn't always work out that way, especially, you know, what happened with Venalong. But in saying that if you do the indexed investments, you'll only ever perform as well as the markets as a whole are performing given that it just follows the industry market indexes or what indexes you have in those exchange traded funds. Yeah. Because I think I wanted to maybe at some point this at some point this this year I don't know. Because, obviously, I'm in the market quite a bit, and I'm just having my own opinions on certain things. Yep. So, like yeah. Because yeah. I I won't I'm still considering whether or not if I want to go to more of a, like, more of a conservative portfolio for the time being. Like but I'm still just it's it's just something that I'm just voicing out to you at the moment because, I guess, it's just like I'm just trying to communicate with you so you can get like, if we were to communicate later on and we were to have something happen, then you're already well aware of that. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So the the benefit that you have there, Nelson, with yourself is you've got time on your side. So in regards to being able to access your retirement funds, you've got, like, twenty five years a bit more before you can touch it. Now, obviously, having an allocation to a higher growth, you do experience a lot more fluctuations in the short term. But over that ten to twenty year period, if you do hold those investments, having those higher allocations to growth even with those bullet volatile fluctuations of ups and downs, they do end up higher over that sort of time span than, like, having the more defensive side of things. Obviously, with gold and silver at the moment with how they've tracked it, it's a bit of an outlier, but there are also alternatives. But if you will look to more defensive portions like having it in fixed interest, cash, those sorts of types of investments, they only ever really sort of keep pace maybe a little bit more than inflation, sometimes less than inflation, which means that you're not entirely getting the returns out of those over those long term periods. Now during those market dips and volatile drops in the market, they may hold more value than those growth investments. But over the long term, those growth investments tend to return higher and than the what you would have if you were just sort of solely in, like, those more defensive aspects or sort of investments. Now with that as well there, Nelson, it's, like, not pushing you against it. You can obviously look at going a little bit more defensive. But given your time horizon, you can definitely still afford to take on that risk, but it's what you're comfortable at the end of the day there as well. Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. I just yeah. I was still gonna have to I'm still considering still considering the panel. I think for now, just for the better long, just keep that I reckon just sell it off and just put it cash. That's We can look at an alternative Chris? investment and just put it like in an either an index alternative or, like, another actively managed fund so it's not just sitting in cash. Or, like, if you just wanna do a cash, we can just do a transaction with that advice to sell it to cash and leave it there. Yeah. I just keep it, I reckon, as a discussion for today, to sell off the Benelon and afterwards just put into cash. You don't want to reinvest in the fund? You don't want to put in an alternative indexed investment at all? You just want to leave it sitting there in cash? Yeah. Leave it sitting there in cash. Just I know it's not I know it's not much money, but it's it's just I just feel comfortable with it being cash to money. Yep. Well, in terms of your portfolio, it still is like, you know, quite a significant weighting of it that will be sitting in cash, like 5.7% plus, like, what was ever sitting in the minimum. So I can sell that to cash and then would have to turn off the the auto trade. What how long were you looking to load, like, sort of in cash without sort of reviewing your investments there, Nelson? I couldn't give you a time frame at the moment. Like, when you want us to sort of follow-up and see when you might want to look at reinvesting or, I couldn't give you a time frame at the moment. like, one to, like, three months sort of thing? Because, obviously, like, it's fine if you want to leave it in cash, but we obviously want to sort of follow-up and review things and look at sort of potentially getting it reinvested into something else. At the April. Reach out in April and see Yeah. how you feel about things? Yeah. Yep.","start_word":1372,"end_word":2233,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03850114780311795},{"text":"And you're happy leaving everything else as is for now until, like, we reach out in April apart from selling down the Benelon?","start_word":2234,"end_word":2256,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4007112979888916},{"text":"Yes. Okay.","start_word":2257,"end_word":2258,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24592265486717224},{"text":"That's no problem.","start_word":2259,"end_word":2261,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3776613473892212},{"text":"And is there anything else that you wanted to have a chat about while you've got me there in regards to your other investments? Or Not from the menu. Yep. Not a problem. And anything else that you wanna have a chat about in in general while you've got me on the phone? No. Nope. That's pretty much it. Not a problem. Sorry for the confusion at the start there. My computer must be playing tricks on me when I clicked on the most up to date t b t w a TWA. So it brought up the twenty twenty four one, so I'm not too sure why it's doing that. I'll have to look into that as well, but apologies for that one to give you that little scare. But, Okay. yeah, that that silver has gone through there as well. So not a problem. I'll put a reminder in to reach out in April and see how things are traveling there with you.","start_word":2262,"end_word":2426,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.008979209444739601},{"text":"Okay. Fantastic. Not a problem at all. Well, you enjoy the rest of your day there, Nelson. Thanks for your time. Thanks, Kyle. Thanks. Bye.","start_word":2427,"end_word":2451,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7540737986564636}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0112588847341713}}}}