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Did you get a chance to read through the proposals to make sure that, you know, you understood everything? So that was the reason I was calling you and, plus, at the same time, as you understand that we are neighboring as a very, very close to the end of this month because we absolutely booked out. But I sent you the proposal. So I thought it's a good idea to reach out to you and at least understand where exactly you're at. If you you know, if you're still thinking about it or if you're still thinking about it or if you need any more, basically answers from me in terms of the proposal. So and I was trying to reach out to you. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So the proposals has been made the basis of our con conversation that what we had before you were leaving that I do this so that we have a very good touch and feel and understanding that what would be the right fit for me. 100 percent. 100%. 100%. Yep. So the only challenge if you do that okay? Right now, you're getting a rebate. Just give me two seconds. Let me look into it. So if you go for 20 kilowatt now and 30 kilowatt 10 kilowatt later, so you can see the difference. Just give me two seconds. I'm just opening up your file. So if you look into the proposal, you're getting $6,536 as a rebate for 20 kilowatt batteries. And for 20 kilowatt battery, you're getting $9,804 rebate. So you're almost getting 3,003, 3,200, $3,300 extra. So what's gonna happen basically, once you put 20 kilowatt batteries, as the rebate finishing on thirtieth of this month, what it what basically it means is anything after 14 kilowatt, you have to pay full price. Yeah. So 20 kilowatt if you get 20 kilowatt batteries, we can claim 6,000 6 and a half thousand dollars rebate now. But later on stages, if you want to add on two extra stacks on top, which we can do that without any problems, you have to pay the full price. There'll be no rebate for it. So, yeah, you you remember we had a discussion about that. So 20 getting 20 kilowatt now and having even 1% thought process of adding more batteries into future, adding batteries is not a problem. We can add to 50 kilowatt as as you meet and, you know, requirement grows. But the rebate once the rebate ends on thirtieth of this month, then we won't be able to add any more oh, we can add more batteries, but you'll be looking to pay the full price. There'll be no further rebates on it. That's why we that's why we had a discussion, and I gave you two quotations for 20 kilowatt and 30 kilowatt because right now, you can still claim the rebate. So the rebate for 30 kilowatt goes up to $9,800, which is basically another 3 and a half thousand dollars. But at the same time what's the price difference? Let me have a look. So yeah. So the price difference is literally around $5,000 for extra 10 kilowatt, but in future, you'll be looking to pay almost $1,011,000 dollars. So if you're thinking about it, it's a good idea to pay a little bit extra now and add on to it whether, you know, obviously, your system is not capable enough to add or, you know, build in batteries. Yes. In summers, you'll be you'll be good. But in winters, absolutely not. But as we have talked about that once you add more panels onto your property later on stages, when you decide to get rid of your the solar tubes, then basically, it'll be it'll be perfectly suitable for your whole ecosystem. Yeah. Go for it. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. So so this battery is basically so if you look into the third proposition, which was solar edge proposition, so in in in even impacting solar edge proposition, what we gotta do is because it's a seamless transition from one system to another system, it'll be all in one application. SolarEdge is going to give you everything in one application. You don't know do not need to have two applications. Whereas Clean Energy is going it's gonna come with separate inverter, and that inverter will be responsible to talk to your existing inverter, converting DC into a sorry, AC into DC and DC into AC in order to supply to your home. So, basically, that is going to be a hybrid inverter. So that's going to make this transition easy, but you'll have two applications to see what's been happening with your solar panels, and one is for batteries, what's been happening with the batteries, if that makes sense. That's okay. Can you well, spit it out because I've seen many. That's why. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Mhmm. That's correct. That's correct. That's it. Yes. From the grid? Yes. So that is a part of VPP, which is called virtual power plant, which basically, it it is it's not established as of yet in Australia. So it's basically work in progress. But later on stages, when the proper VPP is gonna come out, the idea of having batteries is basically you can charge your batteries from the grid when better grid rates are cheaper, and you can charge directly from the grid rather than with the solar. So that is yes. That's a possibility, but it's not yet basically, it's not yet happening right now in full throttle. But, yes, it is it is it is it is 100% possible. Okay. Yeah. So see, Michael, the the the thing is there there are a couple of things happening in the market right now. So that that is completely retailer based offers. So what they do is couple of retailers, they're offering free charging or free electricity during certain time frames. Say, for example, between 12:12PM to 3PM or twelve I'll say 11AM to 2PM, you can char you can use your electricity for free. So what what does that mean that you can charge your batteries during that time without paying a cent to the retailer, which is basically I believe it's called Global. There's a company called Global. They have these plans. But the point is these plans, I do not want to tell you anything on the basis of these plans because these plans can diminish tomorrow. You can say that, hey. We're no longer offering this offer anymore. But by saying this, this is going to be the pattern moving forward when the grid has overloaded electricity. The retailers, which has successful VPP platform, which is virtual power plant platform, they can offer certain parameters that, hey. Listen. We have excess amount of electricity. You'll have a notification on your phone that, hey. We have some certain amount of excess electricity. Would you like to charge us your battery? You just click yes. Your battery will be charged. So, see, again, this is you know, everything is going to happen, but it's all in progress. They are it's not happening right now as we speak. So yes. Sorry. Say yes. Sorry. Okay. So, Michael, what happens in that scenario, when you when we come and set it up your batteries, we set it up your batteries to charge both ways. Okay? It's it's the system. It's basically the PDU. The brain of the battery has system inbuilt in it. So that system gives you the access to make that control by yourself as in manually or you can automate it as well. So the the way it works, it's how do I answer this? So the platform, the inverter, and the battery has its brain, And that brain basically is an application is not an application. So once you've been given those authorities and those, you know, system automation processes, what you can do is you can click on certain basically, you can go into the settings and change your settings as adaptable as basically when the system grows with the with the time. And with VPP, whichever VPP you're connected with, you can charge your batteries with the flick of a button on your application without even standing in front of the battery. So it's basically everything can be done with the help of application rather than, you know, standing in front of the battery and you gotta click the switches here and there. So it's it's all basically manageable off as in, you know, remotely. But, again, I would I would like like to explain this as in detail because all these things are possible. It's all happening, but it's not up to this level or scale at this stage. At this particular time, that's gonna happen within within a month or six months. It may take a year or two in order to get this market established. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. 100%. So that is a that is a part of energy arbitrage. So what happens basically, you can see spot pricing on your system, on on on the electricity, on the grid. And maybe that spot pricing will send you a notification that, hey. Listen, Michael. We have a high demand right now in the area, and we are paying you, say, you know, $10.10 dollars per kilowatt. Would you like to sell some of your excess electricity from your battery for us to cope up with this demand? You can say, yes. I want you to sell five kilowatt or I want you to sell one kilowatt. But, see, all these things, yes, it's 100% practical, 100% possible, and it's all happening. And to be fair to you, I'm working on something as well at the same time. But, okay, whoever comes first in the market, whoever takes time to establish in the market, it's a matter of time. So you got three slots in there? Uh-huh. Okay. So if we well, see, we need realistically three slots. And if there if there are any RCBOs, which we need to play around with as an old RCBOs, we can change those RCBOs and put single single switches there in order to make it more compliant and make it more up to date. And, yeah, we need three slots minimum. Yeah. Cool. So I've got nothing to worry about. It's a blackout protection. Yeah. Yeah. Please do. Please do send me the picture. And by doing that, it'll give us a very good understanding. So if as long as you've got three slots, we are good. We got nothing to worry about. It'll be easier if you can WhatsApp it. Yeah. Just WhatsApp it. Probably, it can be a lot faster. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. That's okay. We we can we can basically switch it around, play around here, or see if you ordered. That's good. Got nothing to worry about. 123. Yeah. Yeah. We got quite a few RCBOs. So if we need to play around with your switchboard, we can do that. That's okay. I received your picture. Business. Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong? Ah, okay. You got it that upgraded. Yeah. Yep. So with the price, with the product, with the quality, which is which is the most important for us. Quality wise, we are not compromising anything. So, you know, there are a lot of cheaper other brands. We are not touching them. We are only working with the specified brands because we know the problem will come with the with the product, and we do not want you to take risk on that. So, hence, we selected for those products, and, you know, they are not pricing. They are rightfully priced to the market, and they're rightfully supported by the back end as well. So thinking in this way, that's the team that the products that we are getting this product from, these people are based in, what do you call it, Mulgrave. They have office. They have a proper back end support, front end support team right here. Whereas 909090% products, they don't even have anyone exist in Melbourne. So pretty much everyone is buying on the basis of price. So that was our challenge, and hence, you know, I would love to say, yes. I can do something, but I'm sorry. Cheaper brands means definition wise or name wise? As in how do you did did you have anything in your mind which you wanted to highlight? I can tell you whether k. Yeah. The brands we like to work with, Tesla, SolarEdge, Clean Energy, Fronius, and pretty much this is it. We do not want you to touch anything else because we know that every other company just rocked up in the market in the last six months or eight months or so. And there's a commercial thing which we work with which is called Day, d e y e. Absolutely not. Oh, see. They they are established. They they see. Take it in this way, Michael. All these companies have have products approved by CEC. So I, you know, I cannot say that they are bad. They are they are not you know, they invested so much money. They they are not good. They've you know? The thing is, it's our due diligence of what they have what we have done into the system, into the whole ecosystem by looking into the next five or ten years rather than now now things. So all these brands are basically I don't think there's gonna be any issue for you to get them as in now. And probably the the challenges when the problem basically happens, that's where the challenge is because most of their centers as in support centers based in China. They don't have any ecosystem based in Australia. So if anything happens, you gotta deal with someone directly in China in order to get the problem fixed. And we decided definitely other way around that we do not want to do that. We did it once. We had a problem, and we replaced it straight away. So that we did probably around six months ago, back and forth back and forth with the customer and the team in China. They had no answer. They had no replies. And for days, customers sitting idle. We decided to you know? Finally, they gave us warranty, but we decided to just get rid of their product and change to the trusted people, trusted brand where we know that if you can call them right now or if you call them right now, they'll they'll have you right now to give you support of what you need. I know. I know. I know. Absolutely. What were you hoping for in in your eyes, in your in your in your thought process? Mhmm. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, it includes the it includes the blackout protection to critical circuits as well. So I've included the blackout protection. If you want to take the blackout protection out, it's gonna drop the price down probably around $900. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, see, doing it once, doing it right, doing it 100%, that's what the aim was. So I can I'll I'll look into the pricing again. But, again, Michael, time is very crucial. So no pricing anything. But, yeah, whichever way you wanna go, let us know probably is a good idea. Yeah. No issues. No issues. Absolutely fine. Absolutely fine. Thanks, Michael. Yes, man. Thanks. Thanks. 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So 20 kilowatt if you get 20 kilowatt batteries, we can claim 6,000 6 and a half thousand dollars rebate now. But later on stages, if you want to add on two extra stacks on top, which we can do that without any problems, you have to pay the full price.\n\nThere'll be no rebate for it. So, yeah, you you remember we had a discussion about that. So 20 getting 20 kilowatt now and having even 1% thought process of adding more batteries into future, adding batteries is not a problem. We can add to 50 kilowatt as as you meet and, you know, requirement grows. But the rebate once the rebate ends on thirtieth of this month, then we won't be able to add any more oh, we can add more batteries, but you'll be looking to pay the full price.\n\nThere'll be no further rebates on it. That's why we that's why we had a discussion, and I gave you two quotations for 20 kilowatt and 30 kilowatt because right now, you can still claim the rebate. So the rebate for 30 kilowatt goes up to $9,800, which is basically another 3 and a half thousand dollars. But at the same time what's the price difference? Let me have a look.\n\nSo yeah. So the price difference is literally around $5,000 for extra 10 kilowatt, but in future, you'll be looking to pay almost $1,011,000 dollars. So if you're thinking about it, it's a good idea to pay a little bit extra now and add on to it whether, you know, obviously, your system is not capable enough to add or, you know, build in batteries. Yes. In summers, you'll be you'll be good.\n\nBut in winters, absolutely not. But as we have talked about that once you add more panels onto your property later on stages, when you decide to get rid of your the solar tubes, then basically, it'll be it'll be perfectly suitable for your whole ecosystem. Yeah. Go for it. Yes.\n\nYes. Absolutely. Absolutely. So so this battery is basically so if you look into the third proposition, which was solar edge proposition, so in in in even impacting solar edge proposition, what we gotta do is because it's a seamless transition from one system to another system, it'll be all in one application. SolarEdge is going to give you everything in one application.\n\nYou don't know do not need to have two applications. Whereas Clean Energy is going it's gonna come with separate inverter, and that inverter will be responsible to talk to your existing inverter, converting DC into a sorry, AC into DC and DC into AC in order to supply to your home. So, basically, that is going to be a hybrid inverter. So that's going to make this transition easy, but you'll have two applications to see what's been happening with your solar panels, and one is for batteries, what's been happening with the batteries, if that makes sense. That's okay.\n\nCan you well, spit it out because I've seen many. That's why. Yep. Yep. Yeah.\n\nMhmm. That's correct. That's correct. That's it. Yes.\n\nFrom the grid? Yes. So that is a part of VPP, which is called virtual power plant, which basically, it it is it's not established as of yet in Australia. So it's basically work in progress. But later on stages, when the proper VPP is gonna come out, the idea of having batteries is basically you can charge your batteries from the grid when better grid rates are cheaper, and you can charge directly from the grid rather than with the solar.\n\nSo that is yes. That's a possibility, but it's not yet basically, it's not yet happening right now in full throttle. But, yes, it is it is it is it is 100% possible. Okay. Yeah.\n\nSo see, Michael, the the the thing is there there are a couple of things happening in the market right now. So that that is completely retailer based offers. So what they do is couple of retailers, they're offering free charging or free electricity during certain time frames. Say, for example, between 12:12PM to 3PM or twelve I'll say 11AM to 2PM, you can char you can use your electricity for free. So what what does that mean that you can charge your batteries during that time without paying a cent to the retailer, which is basically I believe it's called Global.\n\nThere's a company called Global. They have these plans. But the point is these plans, I do not want to tell you anything on the basis of these plans because these plans can diminish tomorrow. You can say that, hey. We're no longer offering this offer anymore.\n\nBut by saying this, this is going to be the pattern moving forward when the grid has overloaded electricity. The retailers, which has successful VPP platform, which is virtual power plant platform, they can offer certain parameters that, hey. Listen. We have excess amount of electricity. You'll have a notification on your phone that, hey.\n\nWe have some certain amount of excess electricity. Would you like to charge us your battery? You just click yes. Your battery will be charged. So, see, again, this is you know, everything is going to happen, but it's all in progress.\n\nThey are it's not happening right now as we speak. So yes. Sorry. Say yes. Sorry.\n\nOkay. So, Michael, what happens in that scenario, when you when we come and set it up your batteries, we set it up your batteries to charge both ways. Okay? It's it's the system. It's basically the PDU.\n\nThe brain of the battery has system inbuilt in it. So that system gives you the access to make that control by yourself as in manually or you can automate it as well. So the the way it works, it's how do I answer this? So the platform, the inverter, and the battery has its brain, And that brain basically is an application is not an application. So once you've been given those authorities and those, you know, system automation processes, what you can do is you can click on certain basically, you can go into the settings and change your settings as adaptable as basically when the system grows with the with the time.\n\nAnd with VPP, whichever VPP you're connected with, you can charge your batteries with the flick of a button on your application without even standing in front of the battery. So it's basically everything can be done with the help of application rather than, you know, standing in front of the battery and you gotta click the switches here and there. So it's it's all basically manageable off as in, you know, remotely. But, again, I would I would like like to explain this as in detail because all these things are possible. It's all happening, but it's not up to this level or scale at this stage.\n\nAt this particular time, that's gonna happen within within a month or six months. It may take a year or two in order to get this market established. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep.\n\nYep. Yep. Absolutely. 100%. So that is a that is a part of energy arbitrage.\n\nSo what happens basically, you can see spot pricing on your system, on on on the electricity, on the grid. And maybe that spot pricing will send you a notification that, hey. Listen, Michael. We have a high demand right now in the area, and we are paying you, say, you know, $10.10 dollars per kilowatt. Would you like to sell some of your excess electricity from your battery for us to cope up with this demand?\n\nYou can say, yes. I want you to sell five kilowatt or I want you to sell one kilowatt. But, see, all these things, yes, it's 100% practical, 100% possible, and it's all happening. And to be fair to you, I'm working on something as well at the same time. But, okay, whoever comes first in the market, whoever takes time to establish in the market, it's a matter of time.\n\nSo you got three slots in there? Uh-huh. Okay. So if we well, see, we need realistically three slots. And if there if there are any RCBOs, which we need to play around with as an old RCBOs, we can change those RCBOs and put single single switches there in order to make it more compliant and make it more up to date.\n\nAnd, yeah, we need three slots minimum. Yeah. Cool. So I've got nothing to worry about. It's a blackout protection.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Please do. Please do send me the picture. And by doing that, it'll give us a very good understanding.\n\nSo if as long as you've got three slots, we are good. We got nothing to worry about. It'll be easier if you can WhatsApp it. Yeah. Just WhatsApp it.\n\nProbably, it can be a lot faster. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nThat's okay. Yeah. That's okay. We we can we can basically switch it around, play around here, or see if you ordered. That's good.\n\nGot nothing to worry about. 123. Yeah. Yeah. We got quite a few RCBOs.\n\nSo if we need to play around with your switchboard, we can do that. That's okay. I received your picture. Business. Yeah.\n\nYeah. What's wrong? Ah, okay. You got it that upgraded. Yeah.\n\nYep. So with the price, with the product, with the quality, which is which is the most important for us. Quality wise, we are not compromising anything. So, you know, there are a lot of cheaper other brands. We are not touching them.\n\nWe are only working with the specified brands because we know the problem will come with the with the product, and we do not want you to take risk on that. So, hence, we selected for those products, and, you know, they are not pricing. They are rightfully priced to the market, and they're rightfully supported by the back end as well. So thinking in this way, that's the team that the products that we are getting this product from, these people are based in, what do you call it, Mulgrave. They have office.\n\nThey have a proper back end support, front end support team right here. Whereas 909090% products, they don't even have anyone exist in Melbourne. So pretty much everyone is buying on the basis of price. So that was our challenge, and hence, you know, I would love to say, yes. I can do something, but I'm sorry.\n\nCheaper brands means definition wise or name wise? As in how do you did did you have anything in your mind which you wanted to highlight? I can tell you whether k. Yeah. The brands we like to work with, Tesla, SolarEdge, Clean Energy, Fronius, and pretty much this is it.\n\nWe do not want you to touch anything else because we know that every other company just rocked up in the market in the last six months or eight months or so. And there's a commercial thing which we work with which is called Day, d e y e. Absolutely not. Oh, see. They they are established.\n\nThey they see. Take it in this way, Michael. All these companies have have products approved by CEC. So I, you know, I cannot say that they are bad. They are they are not you know, they invested so much money.\n\nThey they are not good. They've you know? The thing is, it's our due diligence of what they have what we have done into the system, into the whole ecosystem by looking into the next five or ten years rather than now now things. So all these brands are basically I don't think there's gonna be any issue for you to get them as in now. And probably the the challenges when the problem basically happens, that's where the challenge is because most of their centers as in support centers based in China.\n\nThey don't have any ecosystem based in Australia. So if anything happens, you gotta deal with someone directly in China in order to get the problem fixed. And we decided definitely other way around that we do not want to do that. We did it once. We had a problem, and we replaced it straight away.\n\nSo that we did probably around six months ago, back and forth back and forth with the customer and the team in China. They had no answer. They had no replies. And for days, customers sitting idle. We decided to you know?\n\nFinally, they gave us warranty, but we decided to just get rid of their product and change to the trusted people, trusted brand where we know that if you can call them right now or if you call them right now, they'll they'll have you right now to give you support of what you need. I know. I know. I know. Absolutely.\n\nWhat were you hoping for in in your eyes, in your in your in your thought process? Mhmm. Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, it includes the it includes the blackout protection to critical circuits as well.\n\nSo I've included the blackout protection. If you want to take the blackout protection out, it's gonna drop the price down probably around $900. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nBut, see, doing it once, doing it right, doing it 100%, that's what the aim was. So I can I'll I'll look into the pricing again. But, again, Michael, time is very crucial. So no pricing anything. But, yeah, whichever way you wanna go, let us know probably is a good idea.\n\nYeah. No issues. No issues. Absolutely fine. Absolutely fine.\n\nThanks, Michael. Yes, man. Thanks. Thanks. 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I can't complain for a Wednesday. You know? Yeah. I've turned back and then I was crook when I turned back. And, yeah, it hasn't been my phone. But, anyway, that's okay. I'm better now. Yeah. Yeah. That look. Definitely still thinking about it. And I suppose I did have a few questions. Have you got time now? I've got about fifteen minutes or something if you've got time for a chat. So reading through your proposal, I suppose a couple of things. So you proposed a 20 kilowatt and also a 30 kilowatt solution. Yep. So if if we met the the 20 kilowatt solution now, can we then upgrade it at a later stage by adding more batteries to it to make it a 30 kilowatts? Okay. So that might rather than going the full 30 now, we could do the 20 now and go to 30 later. Yep. Yes. Fuck. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair enough. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So just a question on that. Can you I'm assuming like, does it have these batteries Yep. Yep. 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So if if you come and put the batteries in, are you setting them up just to charge from the solar and not charge from mains? Or is that something how how does that work? Like, how do how do I say, oh, jeez. My batteries are low. I wanna charge them off the mains today. How do I do that? Right. Yep. Yep. Okay. So does does that mean that I can I could also sell power or electricity from my batteries out to the grid? Right. Okay. Alright. Yep. Right. Yep. Okay. Now the other thing you mentioned in the proposal was about a switchboard upgrade. How much space do you need in a switchboard to add a battery? Because our electrical switchboard's pretty full. It's probably only got about three slots in it. I think it's three slots. Yeah. Yeah. I think that I I mean, I think I've got let me just check what I've got here. Because I was looking at it with your proposal. I took a a picture. I think I've got one slot slot. Yeah. 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If you you know, if you're still thinking about it or if you're still thinking about it or if you need any more, basically answers from me in terms of the proposal. So and I was trying to reach out to you.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. That look. Definitely still thinking about it. And I suppose I did have a few questions.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Sure.\n\nChannel 1: Have you got time now? I've got about fifteen minutes or something if you've\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: got\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: time\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: for a\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: chat.\n\nChannel 0: okay. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: So reading through your proposal, I suppose a couple of things. So you proposed a 20 kilowatt and also a 30 kilowatt solution.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So the proposals has been made the basis of our con conversation that what we had before you were leaving that I do this so that we have a very good touch and feel and understanding that what would be the right fit for me.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. So if if we met the the 20 kilowatt solution now, can we then upgrade it at a later stage by adding more batteries\n\nChannel 0: 100\n\nChannel 1: to it to\n\nChannel 0: percent.\n\nChannel 1: make it a 30 kilowatts?\n\nChannel 0: 100%. 100%.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. So that might rather than going the full 30 now, we could do the 20 now and go to 30 later.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. So the only challenge if you do that okay? Right now, you're getting a rebate. Just give me two seconds. Let me look into it.\n\nSo if you go for 20 kilowatt now and 30 kilowatt 10 kilowatt later, so you can see the difference. Just give me two seconds. I'm just opening up your file. So if you look into the proposal, you're getting $6,536 as a rebate for 20 kilowatt\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: batteries. And for 20 kilowatt battery, you're getting $9,804 rebate. So you're almost getting 3,003, 3,200, $3,300 extra. So what's gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: happen basically, once you put 20 kilowatt batteries, as the rebate finishing on thirtieth of this month, what it what basically it means is anything after 14 kilowatt, you have to pay full price.\n\nChannel 1: Fuck.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So 20 kilowatt if you get 20 kilowatt batteries, we can claim 6,000 6 and a half thousand dollars rebate now. But later on stages, if you want to add on two extra stacks on top, which we can do that without any problems, you have to pay the full price. There'll\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: be no rebate for it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nThat's fair\n\nChannel 0: So,\n\nChannel 1: enough. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, you you remember we had a discussion about that. So 20 getting 20 kilowatt now and having even 1% thought process of adding more batteries into future, adding batteries is not a problem. We can add to 50 kilowatt as as you meet and, you know, requirement grows. But the rebate once the rebate ends on thirtieth of this month, then we won't be able to add any more oh, we can add more batteries, but you'll be looking to pay the full price.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: There'll\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: be no further rebates on it. That's why we that's why we had a discussion, and I gave you two quotations for 20 kilowatt and 30 kilowatt because right now, you can still claim the rebate. So the rebate for 30 kilowatt goes up to $9,800, which is basically another 3 and a half thousand dollars. But at the same\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: time what's the price difference? Let me have a look. So yeah. So the price difference is literally around $5,000 for extra 10\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: kilowatt, but\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: in future, you'll be looking to pay almost $1,011,000 dollars.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So if you're thinking about it, it's a good idea to pay a little bit extra now and add on to it whether, you know, obviously, your system is not capable enough to add or, you know, build in batteries. Yes. In summers, you'll be you'll be good. But in winters, absolutely not. But as we have talked about that once you add more panels onto your property later on stages, when you decide to get rid of your the solar tubes, then basically, it'll be it'll be perfectly suitable for your whole ecosystem.\n\nChannel 1: So just a question on that. Can you\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Go for it.\n\nChannel 1: I'm assuming like, does it have these batteries\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely. Absolutely. So so this battery is basically so if you look into the third proposition, which was solar edge proposition, so\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: in in in even impacting solar edge proposition, what we gotta do is because it's a seamless transition from one system to another system, it'll be all in one application. SolarEdge is going to give you everything in one application. You don't know do not need to have two applications. Whereas Clean Energy is going it's gonna come with separate inverter, and that inverter will be responsible to talk to your existing inverter, converting DC into a sorry, AC into DC and DC into AC in order to supply to your home. So, basically, that is going to be a hybrid inverter.\n\nSo that's going to make this transition easy, but you'll have two applications to see what's been happening with your solar panels, and one is for batteries, what's been happening with the batteries, if that makes sense.\n\nChannel 1: So will it I don't know how to this question, but the back the\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: Can you\n\nChannel 1: back\n\nChannel 0: well, spit it out because I've seen many. That's why.\n\nChannel 1: so the sun's out today. The solar panels are producing electricity. We're using some\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: of that electricity in the house. Some of it's\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: going up to the grid, I assume the system would be set up so that instead of going out to the grid and getting 1¢ per kilowatt hour or whatever they give you these days, it would go\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: charging the battery first. And then when\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: correct.\n\nChannel 1: battery is full, it would then go out\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: to the\n\nChannel 0: correct. That's\n\nChannel 1: grid.\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: So so the other part of the question, though, is will the will the batteries get charged from the mains as well?\n\nChannel 0: Yes. From the grid?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. So that is a part of VPP, which is called virtual power plant, which basically, it it is it's not established as of yet in Australia. So it's basically work in progress. But later on stages, when the proper VPP is gonna come out, the idea of having batteries is basically you can charge your batteries from the grid when better grid rates are cheaper, and you can charge directly from the grid rather than with the solar. So that is yes.\n\nThat's a possibility, but it's not yet basically, it's not yet happening right now in full throttle. But, yes, it is it is it is it is 100% possible.\n\nChannel 1: So there are no electricity well, the the the companies that, you know, like Loomer and everyone else that give you when you buy your electricity through, and none of them giving you basically low rates at certain times to charge from the grid when there's excess power in the grid.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Yeah. So see, Michael, the the the thing is there there are a couple of things happening in the market right now. So that that is completely retailer based offers. So what they do is couple of retailers, they're offering free charging or free electricity during certain time frames.\n\nSay, for example, between 12:12PM to 3PM or twelve I'll say 11AM to 2PM, you can char you can use your electricity for free. So what what does that mean that you can charge your batteries during that time without paying a cent to the retailer, which is basically I believe it's called Global. There's a company called Global. They have these plans. But the point is these plans, I do not want to tell you anything on the basis of these plans because these plans can diminish tomorrow.\n\nYou can say that, hey. We're no longer offering this offer anymore. But by saying this, this is going to be the pattern moving forward when the grid has overloaded electricity. The retailers,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: which has successful VPP platform, which is virtual power plant platform, they can offer certain parameters that, hey. Listen. We have excess amount of electricity. You'll have a notification on your phone that, hey. We have some certain amount of excess electricity.\n\nWould you like to charge us your battery? You just click yes. Your battery will be charged. So, see, again, this is you know, everything is going to happen, but it's all in progress. They are it's not happening right now as we speak.\n\nChannel 1: Right. So\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: if if you come and put the batteries in, are you setting them up just to charge from the solar and not charge from mains?\n\nChannel 0: yes.\n\nChannel 1: Or is that something\n\nChannel 0: Sorry. Say\n\nChannel 1: how\n\nChannel 0: yes.\n\nChannel 1: how does that work?\n\nChannel 0: Sorry.\n\nChannel 1: Like, how do how do\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: I say, oh, jeez. My batteries are low. I wanna charge them off the mains today. How do I do that?\n\nChannel 0: So, Michael, what happens in that scenario, when you when we come and set it up your batteries, we set it up your batteries to charge both ways. Okay? It's\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: it's the system. It's basically the PDU. The brain of the battery has system inbuilt in it. So that system gives you the access to make that control by yourself as in manually or you can automate it as well. So the the way it works, it's how do I answer this?\n\nSo the platform, the inverter, and the battery has its brain, And that brain basically is an application is not an application. So once you've been given those authorities and those, you know, system automation processes, what you can do is you can click on certain basically, you can go into the settings and change your settings as adaptable as basically when the system grows with the with the time. And with VPP, whichever VPP you're connected with, you can charge your batteries with the flick of a button on your application without even standing in front of the battery. So it's basically everything can be done with the help of application rather than, you know, standing in front of the battery and you gotta click the switches here and there. So it's it's all basically manageable off as in, you know, remotely.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: But, again, I would I would like like to explain this as in detail because all these things are possible. It's all happening, but it's not up to this level or scale at this stage. At this particular time, that's gonna happen within within a month or six months. It may take a year or two in order to get this market established.\n\nChannel 1: So does does that mean that I can I could also sell power or electricity\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: from my\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: batteries out to the\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: grid?\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Absolutely. 100%.\n\nChannel 1: Right. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: So that is a that is a part of energy arbitrage. So what happens basically, you can see spot pricing on your system, on on on the electricity, on the grid. And\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: maybe\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: that spot pricing will send you a notification that, hey. Listen, Michael. We have a high demand right now in the area, and we are paying you, say, you know, $10.10 dollars per kilowatt. Would you like to sell some of your excess electricity from your battery for us to cope up with this demand? You can say, yes.\n\nI want you to sell five kilowatt or I want you to sell one kilowatt. But, see, all these things, yes, it's 100% practical, 100% possible, and it's all happening. And to be fair to you, I'm working on something as well at the same time. But, okay, whoever comes first in the market, whoever takes time to establish in the market, it's a matter of time.\n\nChannel 1: Right. Yep. Okay. Now the other thing you mentioned in the proposal was about a switchboard upgrade. How much space do you need in a switchboard to add a battery?\n\nBecause our electrical switchboard's pretty full. It's probably only got about three slots in it.\n\nChannel 0: So you got three slots in there?\n\nChannel 1: I think it's three slots. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Uh-huh. Okay. So if we well, see, we need realistically three slots. And if there if there are any RCBOs, which we need to play around with as an old RCBOs, we can change those RCBOs and put single single switches there in order to make it more compliant and make it more up to date. And, yeah, we need three slots minimum.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I think that I I mean, I think I've got let me just check what I've got here. Because I was looking at it with your proposal. I took a a picture. I think I've got one slot slot.\n\nYeah. Because all of them are singles apart from then the the stuff for the solar that you guys put in like last yeah. There's a couple of things for the solar they put in last time, the main switch in that there. And then there's a few extra\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Cool. So I've got nothing to worry about. It's a blackout protection.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Please do. Please do\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: send me the picture. And by doing that, it'll give us a very good understanding. So if as long as you've got three slots, we are good. We got nothing to worry about.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. Let me just share that. Oh, hang on. Share that. Message is and if I select\n\nChannel 0: It'll be easier if you can WhatsApp it. Yeah. Just WhatsApp\n\nChannel 1: oh,\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: sorry.\n\nChannel 0: Probably,\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: can be\n\nChannel 1: SMS\n\nChannel 0: a lot faster.\n\nChannel 1: that I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: just SMS\n\nChannel 0: That's okay.\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: then.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That's okay.\n\nChannel 1: So that sort of shows you the picture. There's one slot on the left and then two slots in the right on the right hand side by the look of it.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That's okay. We we can we can basically switch it around, play around here, or see if you ordered. That's good. Got nothing to worry about.\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: 123. Yeah. Yeah. We got quite a few RCBOs. So if we need to play around with your switchboard, we can do that.\n\nThat's okay. I received your picture.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah. Yes. Yep. So that that was all upgraded, oh, jeez,\n\nChannel 0: Business. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: last year\n\nChannel 0: What's\n\nChannel 1: or\n\nChannel 0: wrong?\n\nChannel 1: something. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Ah, okay.\n\nChannel 1: So that had like, all those circuit breakers and whatever they are, RCTs and that haven't been in that long because there's a whole lot of issues with the circuit and the switchboard. So that's we did\n\nChannel 0: You\n\nChannel 1: all\n\nChannel 0: got\n\nChannel 1: that.\n\nChannel 0: it that\n\nChannel 1: Plus\n\nChannel 0: upgraded.\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: plus it made some separate circuits there for the pool stuff, for the pool pumps and the the heater for the pool as well. So there's a few extra ones there. Yeah. So, yeah, if you only need three, that's perfect. That would probably fill it up.\n\nSo the only other thing I suppose the only thing is that it's either the 20 kilowatt or the 30 kilowatt system. Are they the are\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: they the best prices you can do?\n\nChannel 0: So with the price, with the product, with the quality, which is which is the most important for us. Quality wise, we are not compromising anything. So, you know, there are a lot of cheaper other brands. We are not touching them. We are only working with the specified brands because we know the problem will come with the with the product, and we do not want you to take risk on that.\n\nSo, hence, we selected for those products, and, you know, they are not pricing. They are rightfully priced to the market, and they're rightfully supported by the back end as well. So thinking in this way, that's the team that the products that we are getting this product from, these people are based in, what do you call it, Mulgrave. They have office. They have a proper back end support, front end support team right here.\n\nWhereas\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: 909090% products, they don't even have anyone exist in Melbourne. So pretty much everyone is buying on the basis of price. So that was our challenge, and hence, you know, I would love to say, yes. I can do something, but I'm sorry.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. So what are the cheaper brands then?\n\nChannel 0: Cheaper brands means definition wise or name wise? As in how do you did did you have anything in your mind which you wanted to highlight? I can tell you whether\n\nChannel 1: Hang on. Let me just have a look.\n\nChannel 0: k.\n\nChannel 1: Why does email never wanna work? Hang on.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Bear with me.\n\nChannel 0: The brands we like to work with, Tesla, SolarEdge, Clean Energy, Fronius,\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: and pretty much this is it. We do not want you to touch anything else because we know that every other company just rocked up in the market in the last six months or eight months or so.\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: And there's a commercial thing which we work with which is called Day, d e y e.\n\nChannel 1: I'm trying to so what's this one? So so far solar?\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely not.\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, see. They they are established. They they see. Take it in this way, Michael. All these companies have have products approved by CEC.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So I, you know, I cannot say that they are bad. They are they are not you know, they invested so much money. They they are not good. They've you know? The thing is, it's our due diligence of what they have what we have done into the system, into the whole ecosystem by looking into the next five or ten years rather than now now things.\n\nSo all\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: these brands are basically I don't think there's gonna be any issue for you to get them as in now. And probably the the challenges when the problem basically happens, that's where the challenge is because most of their centers as in support centers based in China. They don't have any ecosystem based in Australia. So if\n\nChannel 1: Wrong.\n\nChannel 0: anything\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: happens, you gotta deal with someone directly in China in order to get the problem fixed. And we decided definitely other way around that we do not want to do that. We did it once. We had a problem, and we replaced it straight away. So that we did probably around six months ago, back and forth\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: back and forth with the customer and the team in China. They had no answer. They had no replies. And for days, customers sitting idle. We decided to you know?\n\nFinally, they gave us warranty, but we decided to just get rid of their product and change to the trusted people, trusted brand where we know that if you can call them right now or if you call them right now, they'll they'll have you right now to give you support of what you need.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. Well, leave it with me. I'll have a think about it because it's a lot of money. I was hoping it\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: was\n\nChannel 0: know.\n\nChannel 1: gonna\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: be\n\nChannel 0: know.\n\nChannel 1: a bit\n\nChannel 0: I know. Absolutely. What were you hoping for in in your eyes, in your in your in your thought process?\n\nChannel 1: less. I I I was sort of hoping that the 30 kilo 30 kilowatt one was gonna be around 15. I think it's a 18 or something. So, yeah, that's what\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: I was hoping for.\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: look. Let\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: me\n\nChannel 0: it includes\n\nChannel 1: have a think about it.\n\nChannel 0: the it includes the blackout protection to critical circuits as well. So I've included the blackout protection. If you want to take the blackout protection out, it's gonna drop the price down probably around $900.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Oh, let me think about that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Alright.\n\nChannel 0: But, see, doing it once, doing it right, doing it 100%, that's what the aim was. So I\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: can I'll I'll look into the pricing again. But, again, Michael, time is very crucial. So no pricing anything. But, yeah, whichever way you wanna go, let us know probably is a good idea.\n\nChannel 1: I'll try and get back to you this evening.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. No issues. No issues. Absolutely fine. Absolutely fine.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome. No worries.\n\nChannel 0: Thanks, Michael. Yes, man.\n\nChannel 1: Thank you very much.\n\nChannel 0: Thanks. 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How are you?","start_word":0,"end_word":3,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22791650891304016},{"text":"Very good. Thanks.","start_word":4,"end_word":6,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7746210098266602},{"text":"Javier? I can't complain for a Wednesday. You know? Yeah. I've I've I've been basically, you you came back last month. Right? Seventeen? Yeah. I've turned back and then I was crook when I turned back. And, yeah, it hasn't been my phone. But, anyway, that's okay.","start_word":7,"end_word":53,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.047104448080062866},{"text":"I'm Cool.","start_word":54,"end_word":55,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.338507741689682},{"text":"Now did you get a chance to look into the proposal? Did you get a chance to read through the proposals better to make sure that, you know, you understood everything? So that was the reason now. I was calling you and, plus, at the same time, as you understand that we are neighboring as a very, very close to the end of this month because we absolutely booked out. But I sent you the proposal.","start_word":56,"end_word":131,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04886699095368385},{"text":"So I thought it's a good idea to reach out to you and at least understand where exactly you're at.","start_word":132,"end_word":151,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3447107970714569},{"text":"If you you know, if you're still thinking about it or if you're still thinking about it or if you need any more, basically answers from me in terms of the proposal. So and I was trying to reach out to you. Yeah. Yeah. That look. Definitely still thinking about it. And I suppose I did have a few questions. Yeah. Sure. Have you got time now? I've got about fifteen minutes or something if you've Yeah. got Yeah. time Yeah. for a That's chat. okay. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So reading through your proposal, I suppose a couple of things. So you proposed a 20 kilowatt and also a 30 kilowatt solution. Yeah. So the proposals has been made the basis of our con conversation that what we had before you were leaving that I do this so that we have a very good touch and feel and understanding that what would be the right fit for me. Yep. So if if we met the the 20 kilowatt solution now, can we then upgrade it at a later stage by adding more batteries 100 to it to percent. make it a 30 kilowatts? 100%. 100%. Okay. So that might rather than going the full 30 now, we could do the 20 now and go to 30 later. Yep. So the only challenge if you do that okay? Right now, you're getting a rebate. Just give me two seconds. Let me look into it. So if you go for 20 kilowatt now and 30 kilowatt 10 kilowatt later, so you can see the difference. Just give me two seconds. I'm just opening up your file. So if you look into the proposal, you're getting $6,536 as a rebate for 20 kilowatt Yep. batteries. And for 20 kilowatt battery, you're getting $9,804 rebate. So you're almost getting 3,003, 3,200, $3,300 extra. So what's gonna Yes. happen basically, once you put 20 kilowatt batteries, as the rebate finishing on thirtieth of this month, what it what basically it means is anything after 14 kilowatt, you have to pay full price.","start_word":152,"end_word":498,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10090520074027416},{"text":"Fuck.","start_word":499,"end_word":499,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5807416439056396},{"text":"Yeah. So 20 kilowatt if you get 20 kilowatt batteries, we can claim 6,000 6 and a half thousand dollars rebate now. But later on stages, if you want to add on two extra stacks on top, which we can do that without any problems, you have to pay the full price. There'll Yep. be no rebate for it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair So, enough. Yep. yeah, you you remember we had a discussion about that. So 20 getting 20 kilowatt now and having even 1% thought process of adding more batteries into future, adding batteries is not a problem. We can add to 50 kilowatt as as you meet and, you know, requirement grows. But the rebate once the rebate ends on thirtieth of this month, then we won't be able to add any more oh, we can add more batteries, but you'll be looking to pay the full price. Yep. There'll Yeah. be no further rebates on it. That's why we that's why we had a discussion, and I gave you two quotations for 20 kilowatt and 30 kilowatt because right now, you can still claim the rebate. So the rebate for 30 kilowatt goes up to $9,800, which is basically another 3 and a half thousand dollars. But at the same Yep. time what's the price difference? Let me have a look. So yeah. So the price difference is literally around $5,000 for extra 10 Yep. kilowatt, but Yep. in future, you'll be looking to pay almost $1,011,000 dollars. Yep. So if you're thinking about it, it's a good idea to pay a little bit extra now and add on to it whether, you know, obviously, your system is not capable enough to add or, you know, build in batteries. Yes. In summers, you'll be you'll be good. But in winters, absolutely not. But as we have talked about that once you add more panels onto your property later on stages, when you decide to get rid of your the solar tubes, then basically, it'll be it'll be perfectly suitable for your whole ecosystem. So just a question on that. Can you Yeah. Go for it. I'm assuming like, does it have these batteries Yes. Yes. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. So so this battery is basically so if you look into the third proposition, which was solar edge proposition, so Yep.","start_word":500,"end_word":895,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09931545683907138},{"text":"in in in even impacting solar edge proposition, what we gotta do is because it's a seamless transition from one system to another system, it'll be all in one application. SolarEdge is going to give you everything in one application.","start_word":896,"end_word":935,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3888503909111023},{"text":"You don't know do not need to have two applications. Whereas Clean Energy is going it's gonna come with separate inverter, and that inverter will be responsible to talk to your existing inverter, converting DC into a sorry, AC into DC and DC into AC in order to supply to your home. So, basically, that is going to be a hybrid inverter. So that's going to make this transition easy, but you'll have two applications to see what's been happening with your solar panels, and one is for batteries, what's been happening with the batteries, if that makes sense. So will it I don't know how to this question, but the back the That's the okay. the Can you back well, spit it out because I've seen many. That's why. so the sun's out today. The solar panels are producing electricity. We're using some Yep. of that electricity in the house. Some of it's Yep. going up to the grid, I assume the system would be set up so that instead of going out to the grid and getting 1<unk> per kilowatt hour or whatever they give you these days, it would go Yeah. to Mhmm. charging the battery first. And then when That's the correct. battery is full, it would then go out That's to the correct. That's grid. it. So so the other part of the question, though, is will the will the batteries get charged from the mains as well? Yes. From the grid? Yeah. Yes. So that is a part of VPP, which is called virtual power plant, which basically, it it is it's not established as of yet in Australia. So it's basically work in progress. But later on stages, when the proper VPP is gonna come out, the idea of having batteries is basically you can charge your batteries from the grid when better grid rates are cheaper, and you can charge directly from the grid rather than with the solar. So that is yes. That's a possibility, but it's not yet basically, it's not yet happening right now in full throttle. But, yes, it is it is it is it is 100% possible. So there are no electricity well, the the the companies that, you know, like Loomer and everyone else that give you when you buy your electricity through, and none of them giving you basically low rates at certain times to charge from the grid when there's excess power in the grid. Okay. Yeah. So see, Michael, the the the thing is there there are a couple of things happening in the market right now. So that that is completely retailer based offers. So what they do is couple of retailers, they're offering free charging or free electricity during certain time frames. Say, for example, between 12:12PM to 3PM or twelve I'll say 11AM to 2PM, you can char you can use your electricity for free. So what what does that mean that you can charge your batteries during that time without paying a cent to the retailer, which is basically I believe it's called Global. There's a company called Global. They have these plans.","start_word":936,"end_word":1459,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1251490659556771},{"text":"But the point is these plans, I do not want to tell you anything on the basis of these plans because these plans can diminish tomorrow.","start_word":1460,"end_word":1485,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3467748761177063},{"text":"You can say that, hey.","start_word":1486,"end_word":1490,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.24667245149612427},{"text":"We're no longer offering this offer anymore.","start_word":1491,"end_word":1497,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34586840867996216},{"text":"But by saying this, this is going to be the pattern moving forward when the grid has overloaded electricity. The retailers, Yeah. which has successful VPP platform, which is virtual power plant platform, they can offer certain parameters that, hey. Listen. We have excess amount of electricity. You'll have a notification on your phone that, hey. We have some certain amount of excess electricity. Would you like to charge us your battery? You just click yes. Your battery will be charged. So, see, again, this is you know, everything is going to happen, but it's all in progress.","start_word":1498,"end_word":1595,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.013729549944400787},{"text":"They are it's not happening right now as we speak.","start_word":1596,"end_word":1605,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34672480821609497},{"text":"Right. So So if if you come and put the batteries in, are you setting them up just to charge from the solar and not charge from mains? yes. Or is that something Sorry. Say how yes. how does that work? Sorry. Like, how do how do Okay. I say, oh, jeez. My batteries are low. I wanna charge them off the mains today. How do I do that? So, Michael, what happens in that scenario, when you when we come and set it up your batteries, we set it up your batteries to charge both ways. Okay? It's Right. it's the system. It's basically the PDU. The brain of the battery has system inbuilt in it. So that system gives you the access to make that control by yourself as in manually or you can automate it as well. So the the way it works, it's how do I answer this? So the platform, the inverter, and the battery has its brain, And that brain basically is an application is not an application. So once you've been given those authorities and those, you know, system automation processes, what you can do is you can click on certain basically, you can go into the settings and change your settings as adaptable as basically when the system grows with the with the time. And with VPP, whichever VPP you're connected with, you can charge your batteries with the flick of a button on your application without even standing in front of the battery. So it's basically everything can be done with the help of application rather than, you know, standing in front of the battery and you gotta click the switches here and there. So it's it's all basically manageable off as in, you know, remotely. Yep. Yep. Okay. But, again, I would I would like like to explain this as in detail because all these things are possible. It's all happening, but it's not up to this level or scale at this stage. At this particular time, that's gonna happen within within a month or six months. It may take a year or two in order to get this market established. So does does that mean that I can I could also sell power or electricity Absolutely. Absolutely. from my Yep. batteries out to the Yep. grid? Yep. Absolutely. 100%. Right. Okay. So that is a that is a part of energy arbitrage. So what happens basically, you can see spot pricing on your system, on on on the electricity, on the grid. And Alright. maybe Yep. that spot pricing will send you a notification that, hey. Listen, Michael. We have a high demand right now in the area, and we are paying you, say, you know, $10.10 dollars per kilowatt. Would you like to sell some of your excess electricity from your battery for us to cope up with this demand? You can say, yes. I want you to sell five kilowatt or I want you to sell one kilowatt.","start_word":1606,"end_word":2106,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08582266113774743},{"text":"But, see, all these things, yes, it's 100% practical, 100% possible, and it's all happening.","start_word":2107,"end_word":2121,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5166006088256836},{"text":"And to be fair to you, I'm working on something as well at the same time. But, okay, whoever comes first in the market, whoever takes time to establish in the market, it's a matter of time. Right. Yep. Okay. Now the other thing you mentioned in the proposal was about a switchboard upgrade. How much space do you need in a switchboard to add a battery? Because our electrical switchboard's pretty full. It's probably only got about three slots in it. So you got three slots in there? I think it's three slots. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. So if we well, see, we need realistically three slots. And if there if there are any RCBOs, which we need to play around with as an old RCBOs, we can change those RCBOs and put single single switches there in order to make it more compliant and make it more up to date. And, yeah, we need three slots minimum. Yeah. I think that I I mean, I think I've got let me just check what I've got here. Because I was looking at it with your proposal. I took a a picture. I think I've got one slot slot. Yeah. Because all of them are singles apart from then the the stuff for the solar that you guys put in like last yeah. There's a couple of things for the solar they put in last time, the main switch in that there. And then there's a few extra Yeah. Cool. So I've got nothing to worry about. It's a blackout protection. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Please do. Please do Yeah. send me the picture.","start_word":2122,"end_word":2393,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0797596424818039},{"text":"And by doing that, it'll give us a very good understanding. So if as long as you've got three slots, we are good. We got nothing to worry about.","start_word":2394,"end_word":2422,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4310474991798401},{"text":"Alright. Let me just share that. Oh, hang on. Share that. Message is and if I select It'll be easier if you can WhatsApp it. Yeah. Just WhatsApp oh, it. sorry. Probably, I it just can be SMS a lot faster. that I Yeah. just SMS That's okay. that Yeah. then. Yeah. That's okay. So that sort of shows you the picture. There's one slot on the left and then two slots in the right on the right hand side by the look of it. Yeah. That's okay. We we can we can basically switch it around, play around here, or see if you ordered.","start_word":2423,"end_word":2527,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.13691701555535907},{"text":"That's good. Got nothing to worry about.","start_word":2528,"end_word":2534,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.518563985824585},{"text":"Right. 123. Yeah. Yeah. We got quite a few RCBOs. So if we need to play around with your switchboard, we can do that. That's okay. I received your picture. Yep. Yeah. Yes. Yep. So that that was all upgraded, oh, jeez, Business. Yeah. Yeah. last year What's or wrong? something. Yeah. Ah, okay. So that had like, all those circuit breakers and whatever they are, RCTs and that haven't been in that long because there's a whole lot of issues with the circuit and the switchboard. So that's we did You all got that. it that Plus upgraded. it Yeah. plus it made some separate circuits there for the pool stuff, for the pool pumps and the the heater for the pool as well. So there's a few extra ones there. Yeah.","start_word":2535,"end_word":2667,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0612361878156662},{"text":"So, yeah, if you only need three, that's perfect. That would probably fill it up.","start_word":2668,"end_word":2682,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3920622766017914},{"text":"So the only other thing I suppose the only thing is that it's either the 20 kilowatt or the 30 kilowatt system. Are they the are Yep. they the best prices you can do? So with the price, with the product, with the quality, which is which is the most important for us. Quality wise, we are not compromising anything. So, you know, there are a lot of cheaper other brands. We are not touching them. We are only working with the specified brands because we know the problem will come with the with the product, and we do not want you to take risk on that. So, hence, we selected for those products, and, you know, they are not pricing.","start_word":2683,"end_word":2803,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09986647218465804},{"text":"They are rightfully priced to the market, and they're rightfully supported by the back end as well.","start_word":2804,"end_word":2820,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6318553686141968},{"text":"So thinking in this way, that's the team that the products that we are getting this product from, these people are based in, what do you call it, Mulgrave. They have office. They have a proper back end support, front end support team right here. Whereas Yep. 909090% products, they don't even have anyone exist in Melbourne. So pretty much everyone is buying on the basis of price. So that was our challenge, and hence, you know, I would love to say, yes. I can do something, but I'm sorry. Alright. So what are the cheaper brands then? Cheaper brands means definition wise or name wise? As in how do you did did you have anything in your mind which you wanted to highlight? I can tell you whether Hang on. Let me just have a look. k. Why does email never wanna work? Hang on. Yeah. Bear with me. The brands we like to work with, Tesla, SolarEdge, Clean Energy, Fronius, Yes. and pretty much this is it. We do not want you to touch anything else because we know that every other company just rocked up in the market in the last six months or eight months or so. Alright. And there's a commercial thing which we work with which is called Day, d e y e. I'm trying to so what's this one? So so far solar? Absolutely not. No. Oh, see. They they are established. They they see. Take it in this way, Michael. All these companies have have products approved by CEC. Yep. So I, you know, I cannot say that they are bad. They are they are not you know, they invested so much money.","start_word":2821,"end_word":3101,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.036248087882995605},{"text":"They they are not good.","start_word":3102,"end_word":3106,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5306810736656189},{"text":"They've you know? The thing is, it's our due diligence of what they have what we have done into the system, into the whole ecosystem by looking into the next five or ten years rather than now now things. So all Yes. these brands are basically I don't think there's gonna be any issue for you to get them as in now. And probably the the challenges when the problem basically happens, that's where the challenge is because most of their centers as in support centers based in China.","start_word":3107,"end_word":3195,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.006575430544574609},{"text":"They don't have any ecosystem based in Australia.","start_word":3196,"end_word":3203,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3517911434173584},{"text":"So if Wrong. anything Okay. happens, you gotta deal with someone directly in China in order to get the problem fixed.","start_word":3204,"end_word":3224,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2098838835954666},{"text":"And we decided definitely other way around that we do not want to do that.","start_word":3225,"end_word":3239,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.33955031633377075},{"text":"We did it once. We had a problem, and we replaced it straight away. So that we did probably around six months ago, back and forth Yep. back and forth with the customer and the team in China.","start_word":3240,"end_word":3277,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.11326155811548232},{"text":"They had no answer. They had no replies. And for days, customers sitting idle.","start_word":3278,"end_word":3291,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.46565479040145874},{"text":"We decided to you know? Finally, they gave us warranty, but we decided to just get rid of their product and change to the trusted people, trusted brand where we know that if you can call them right now or if you call them right now, they'll they'll have you right now to give you support of what you need. Alright. Well, leave it with me. I'll have a think about it because it's a lot of money. I was hoping it I was know. gonna I be know. a bit I know. Absolutely. What were you hoping for in in your eyes, in your in your in your thought process? less. I I I was sort of hoping that the 30 kilo 30 kilowatt one was gonna be around 15. I think it's a 18 or something. So, yeah, that's what Mhmm. I was hoping for. Mhmm. But Mhmm. look. Let Well, me it includes have a think about it. the it includes the blackout protection to critical circuits as well. So I've included the blackout protection. If you want to take the blackout protection out, it's gonna drop the price down probably around $900. Yep. Oh, let me think about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Alright. But, see, doing it once, doing it right, doing it 100%, that's what the aim was. So I Yep. can I'll I'll look into the pricing again. But, again, Michael, time is very crucial. So no pricing anything. But, yeah, whichever way you wanna go, let us know probably is a good idea. I'll try and get back to you this evening. Yeah. No issues. No issues.","start_word":3292,"end_word":3566,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03631391047754071},{"text":"Absolutely fine. Absolutely fine. Awesome. No worries. Thanks, Michael. Yes, man. Thank you very much. Thanks. Thanks. Bye. Bye.","start_word":3567,"end_word":3585,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6548556089401245}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08584624224020213}}}}