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I missed your email saying you're all good, and I saw the notification where where you accepted the invite, and I was like, oh, he must be available. Oh, wow. Yeah. She just needs some extra TLC. Yep. Yeah. Absolutely. That's that's why we have you around, really. Yep. Yeah. Do you like I mean, I guess, like, do you deal with any sort of, like, consolidation loans or anything like that to debt cycling? Yeah. Yeah. Just because what the ATO loans are sitting somewhere around 11%. Yeah. So that that's a little bit owie. Yeah. With no no room for LVR to pull, probably. Yeah. Of course. Course. I do. Yep. Yeah. How are you paying that all? Some cash. Yep. Just right around that nineteen eighties Corolla until it crashes out. Like, sorry. Yeah. They don't always like looking at it. Yeah. Yeah. She's just just drowning a little bit. Yep. Yeah. They're gonna be pushing. Damn. Yep. And it happens. Unfortunately, it happens too often. No. Absolutely. Yeah. I hope it works out for her. Yeah. Same. Yeah. You almost you almost financial counseling at the same time as everything else, which, I mean, I do too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get there slowly. Better, happier, maybe. Yes. Yeah. That's okay. It might have some problems. So what questions did you maybe have? Absolutely. The CGC is still correct. Yeah. I just I manually typed it, and I just screwed up. Two and seven one. No. Yes. A lot more. Yeah. Yeah. It just it will kind of depend. Like, yes, you are correct. It could be more, but at the same time, it's more probable to be less. And that's purely and simply because, like, if you have a look at the breakdown report that I sent you last week, you'll see that there's a bunch of the assets that are discounted because you've held them for more than twelve months, but there are a bunch that aren't discounted because you haven't held them for twelve months yet. So the discounts will kick in in twelve months if you wanna roll that. But, yeah, 100%. The the market could bounce up, which means that your gain is higher, which means that the capital gain is higher again as well. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're you're you're liquidating again like, you're solidifying again. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. The other option available to you just to to throw options out because I that's what I do, is you could always liquidate specific assets and do a slow transfer. Yeah. So you could just be selective with which assets you you sell down. Yeah. And we could just go, like, a FIFO base, like a first in, first out type of sales structure or, you know, c CGT conscious. Like, you do have gains across a lot of your portfolio, but there are still some losses that'll offset it. So, you you know, if you if you specifically wanted to look at assets, you know, that were hitting the right price for you based on a sale, we could sort of do it that way. Whereas, you know, if you were predicting or had assets that you were sort of wanting to hold to wait for them to bounce or for you know, if you had a prediction based on, you know, the assets or whatever you held. But, yeah, like, that's just a I guess an option that I was looking at when I was looking at your accounts and because, obviously, you've bought very, very, very specific stocks. So if you had specific target prices that you were trying to hit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did did you yes. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Forever. I know. Yeah. You do your bed. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm I'm gonna be really firm in this because I know that you have like, previously, you've been emailing Connor, and that's been, like, basically the instruction. For this, for a full sell, when you email, you can email me, cc Connor, and so that way we both get it. That's fine. But I am gonna draw a document up, and I'm gonna send it through to both of you for you guys to sign. I will do it same day, and I'm happy for you guys to sign it same day, and I'll action it same day. But I'm gonna get you both to sign it if you're yeah. Cool. Cool. Once it's cash no. Cash down. So once it's once it's sold, basically, Hub will do like, sell it all. Once it's all sold before they do the transfer out, they'll just hold back the cash, pay the cash. They pay the CGT they need to. They get any fees and go from there. Oh, perfect. Yeah. The only other option you really have available is you could hold hub 24 until you're ready to purchase the property. And then when you're ready to purchase the property, then liquidate, transfer over to cash, do the property purchase. You know? And you could you could still structure it to the SMSF, but and then you're paying CGT twice, which makes no sense. So you just hold the structure you have now, keep the SMSF open. It's not operational. It'll just it'll sit there. It's done. Yeah. Once it's cashed out, it it the account closes and the agreement ceases. Yeah. I'll put it in the document that that's basically your wishes, but, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Collective. Hands on. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Basically, the options you have available, though, is, like, basically, hold, do it later, do it now. If you do I I guess I wanna do caution. If you do it now, then buy into assets. You're gonna CGT trigger again when you sell down to purchase the property. That's probably something I wanna forewarn you on, but, otherwise, just be selective with how much you put in. Leave the others in cash and hold cash until you're ready to pay. Yeah. Yeah. Hundreds. Yeah. Yeah. In case you could not in an SMSF. An SMSF isn't like, it is 20%, but it I mean, it all just depends. You also have to keep which you will have cash, like yeah. No. That would work, actually. No. Sorry. I'm sorry. Thinking out loud. That would work because you you have you have you have cash in the account. You have to keep generally, like, cash available, which the stock is considered a liquid liquid asset, so that's fine. Yeah. So no. Yeah. That would that would work. You don't have to keep it in cash. You could always term deposit the 100 and 50 just depending on the rates and what's available. You could just, yeah, term deposit it. So that way, you have it doing a thing. Just, obviously, cautionary tale. Be careful on how long you term deposit it and making sure that cash is available when you wanna buy. Yeah. But, no, otherwise, that that's perfectly perfectly sound in terms of a method. Absolutely. Just make sure you definitely keep yes. Definitely keep what you need available to do the property purchase. So have a chat to your SMSF guy or your property guy or whoever it is that's helping you with that property structure, and just make sure that you've noted out what you would need based on your purchase price for the property because SMSF structures are different with property purchases to what it is, like a personal. Yeah. Yeah. No. And it's it's CGT within an SMSF that you don't have to pay it immediately, like, same as yep. The the like, the other reason you're gonna have to pay the CGT, like, with the Hub twenty four account is because you're rolling out. So Hub twenty four has to settle all all bills before before it closes. With your SMSF, you can always carry over and figure out that it end the finance year, offset it, blah blah blah. Accounting nonsense, as you know. Yeah. I think that's that's everything I can kinda think of on that, like, option side. Yep. Yeah. Look. You can, but, you know, that the the the man's gonna come after you eventually asking what happened. No. Yep. Yeah. We get the calls all the time. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so we we we deal with, you know, ATO compassionate claims and and financial also the financial hardship claims and withdrawals and yeah. Absolutely. All the time. Yep. TPD is my favorite. And then when a client, permanently incapacitated and, obviously, medication of relief that way and, you know, tax free up list and all the rest of the fun stuff. That's actually my wheelhouse. It's what I've done for sort of five years. Yeah. Yeah. Insurance claims and CPD specific. Oh, yeah? No. You're okay. So the your so your insurance policy is BT, which is TAL. So it's just a change of ownership. It's it's I I would like to say nice and easy. It's a pain in the absolute barrier of a document, but we we we'll we'll handle that for you. And by we, I mean, Caden. No. I I have someone that that deals with all of those documents and and helps me out with them. They are they are an absolute headache to deal with. Yeah. Yep. But, yeah, we'll we we get the documents. We'll we'll fill them all out and everything. When you do email me tomorrow, I will need all of your SMSF details so I can get the cash rolled over. So it'll have to be, like, account numbers, your ESA, everything. Please. Yes. Because I wanna make it as smooth as possible. And I wanna double check your bank account is definitely registered correctly. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Cool. If Sean's able to or you, it's actually a lot quicker for you to request the roll in from Hub twenty four over to your SMSF than it is for me to send the money. We we can you could basically request it today, tonight, to whenever, and then I get a notification. I sell it down anyway. But I wouldn't sell it down till you gave me authority as to how I'm selling it down. But, yeah, it's it's a lot quicker of a process because, otherwise, the Hub twenty four has to basically send the thing because it's an SMSF fund. When the SMSF requests it, it hits the ATO. The ATO does a verification, and then it comes through to Hub versus when it goes the other way because it's trying to connect to an SMSF fund, which is outside of, you know, its little network. It's Not what it is. It's just an absolute pain. It just it doesn't yeah. It yeah. It will. Yeah. It just it they don't translate as well. It's just so much easier for the SMSF to pull the money and for a fund to push it. So once I set it up, does does Sean have access to request? I have Sean's email as a email from an email you forwarded to me, so I'll reach out to him, and I'll check. That's okay. Because I'll be able to communicate and figure out where he's at and what he has access to and what he doesn't have access to and how it all works. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's just it's just a SuperStream request. So, yeah, I'll touch base with him, and we'll go from there. Amazing. Alright. Well, I will get cracking. And when I hear from you, I'll hear from you, and we'll go from there. No. Absolutely fine. I get how long meetings can go for sometimes. I hope we'll chat later. Thanks. 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Larissa from Oakview Financial. How are you going? Yeah. Good.\n\nI missed your email saying you're all good, and I saw the notification where where you accepted the invite, and I was like, oh, he must be available. Oh, wow. Yeah. She just needs some extra TLC. Yep.\n\nYeah. Absolutely. That's that's why we have you around, really. Yep. Yeah.\n\nDo you like I mean, I guess, like, do you deal with any sort of, like, consolidation loans or anything like that to debt cycling? Yeah. Yeah. Just because what the ATO loans are sitting somewhere around 11%. Yeah.\n\nSo that that's a little bit owie. Yeah. With no no room for LVR to pull, probably. Yeah. Of course.\n\nCourse. I do. Yep. Yeah. How are you paying that all?\n\nSome cash. Yep. Just right around that nineteen eighties Corolla until it crashes out. Like, sorry. Yeah.\n\nThey don't always like looking at it. Yeah. Yeah. She's just just drowning a little bit. Yep.\n\nYeah. They're gonna be pushing. Damn. Yep. And it happens.\n\nUnfortunately, it happens too often. No. Absolutely. Yeah. I hope it works out for her.\n\nYeah. Same. Yeah. You almost you almost financial counseling at the same time as everything else, which, I mean, I do too. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Get there slowly. Better, happier, maybe. Yes.\n\nYeah. That's okay. It might have some problems. So what questions did you maybe have? Absolutely.\n\nThe CGC is still correct. Yeah. I just I manually typed it, and I just screwed up. Two and seven one. No.\n\nYes. A lot more. Yeah. Yeah. It just it will kind of depend.\n\nLike, yes, you are correct. It could be more, but at the same time, it's more probable to be less. And that's purely and simply because, like, if you have a look at the breakdown report that I sent you last week, you'll see that there's a bunch of the assets that are discounted because you've held them for more than twelve months, but there are a bunch that aren't discounted because you haven't held them for twelve months yet. So the discounts will kick in in twelve months if you wanna roll that. But, yeah, 100%.\n\nThe the market could bounce up, which means that your gain is higher, which means that the capital gain is higher again as well. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're you're you're liquidating again like, you're solidifying again. Yep.\n\nYep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Absolutely. The other option available to you just to to throw options out because I that's what I do, is you could always liquidate specific assets and do a slow transfer. Yeah. So you could just be selective with which assets you you sell down.\n\nYeah. And we could just go, like, a FIFO base, like a first in, first out type of sales structure or, you know, c CGT conscious. Like, you do have gains across a lot of your portfolio, but there are still some losses that'll offset it. So, you you know, if you if you specifically wanted to look at assets, you know, that were hitting the right price for you based on a sale, we could sort of do it that way. Whereas, you know, if you were predicting or had assets that you were sort of wanting to hold to wait for them to bounce or for you know, if you had a prediction based on, you know, the assets or whatever you held.\n\nBut, yeah, like, that's just a I guess an option that I was looking at when I was looking at your accounts and because, obviously, you've bought very, very, very specific stocks. So if you had specific target prices that you were trying to hit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nDid did you yes. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.\n\nYeah. Yep. Forever. I know. Yeah.\n\nYou do your bed. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. I'm I'm gonna be really firm in this because I know that you have like, previously, you've been emailing Connor, and that's been, like, basically the instruction. For this, for a full sell, when you email, you can email me, cc Connor, and so that way we both get it. That's fine. But I am gonna draw a document up, and I'm gonna send it through to both of you for you guys to sign.\n\nI will do it same day, and I'm happy for you guys to sign it same day, and I'll action it same day. But I'm gonna get you both to sign it if you're yeah. Cool. Cool. Once it's cash no.\n\nCash down. So once it's once it's sold, basically, Hub will do like, sell it all. Once it's all sold before they do the transfer out, they'll just hold back the cash, pay the cash. They pay the CGT they need to. They get any fees and go from there.\n\nOh, perfect. Yeah. The only other option you really have available is you could hold hub 24 until you're ready to purchase the property. And then when you're ready to purchase the property, then liquidate, transfer over to cash, do the property purchase. You know?\n\nAnd you could you could still structure it to the SMSF, but and then you're paying CGT twice, which makes no sense. So you just hold the structure you have now, keep the SMSF open. It's not operational. It'll just it'll sit there. It's done.\n\nYeah. Once it's cashed out, it it the account closes and the agreement ceases. Yeah. I'll put it in the document that that's basically your wishes, but, yeah, that's fine. Yeah.\n\nCollective. Hands on. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.\n\nBasically, the options you have available, though, is, like, basically, hold, do it later, do it now. If you do I I guess I wanna do caution. If you do it now, then buy into assets. You're gonna CGT trigger again when you sell down to purchase the property. That's probably something I wanna forewarn you on, but, otherwise, just be selective with how much you put in.\n\nLeave the others in cash and hold cash until you're ready to pay. Yeah. Yeah. Hundreds. Yeah.\n\nYeah. In case you could not in an SMSF. An SMSF isn't like, it is 20%, but it I mean, it all just depends. You also have to keep which you will have cash, like yeah. No.\n\nThat would work, actually. No. Sorry. I'm sorry. Thinking out loud.\n\nThat would work because you you have you have you have cash in the account. You have to keep generally, like, cash available, which the stock is considered a liquid liquid asset, so that's fine. Yeah. So no. Yeah.\n\nThat would that would work. You don't have to keep it in cash. You could always term deposit the 100 and 50 just depending on the rates and what's available. You could just, yeah, term deposit it. So that way, you have it doing a thing.\n\nJust, obviously, cautionary tale. Be careful on how long you term deposit it and making sure that cash is available when you wanna buy. Yeah. But, no, otherwise, that that's perfectly perfectly sound in terms of a method. Absolutely.\n\nJust make sure you definitely keep yes. Definitely keep what you need available to do the property purchase. So have a chat to your SMSF guy or your property guy or whoever it is that's helping you with that property structure, and just make sure that you've noted out what you would need based on your purchase price for the property because SMSF structures are different with property purchases to what it is, like a personal. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nNo. And it's it's CGT within an SMSF that you don't have to pay it immediately, like, same as yep. The the like, the other reason you're gonna have to pay the CGT, like, with the Hub twenty four account is because you're rolling out. So Hub twenty four has to settle all all bills before before it closes. With your SMSF, you can always carry over and figure out that it end the finance year, offset it, blah blah blah.\n\nAccounting nonsense, as you know. Yeah. I think that's that's everything I can kinda think of on that, like, option side. Yep. Yeah.\n\nLook. You can, but, you know, that the the the man's gonna come after you eventually asking what happened. No. Yep. Yeah.\n\nWe get the calls all the time. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. All the time.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Well, so we we we deal with, you know, ATO compassionate claims and and financial also the financial hardship claims and withdrawals and yeah. Absolutely. All the time.\n\nYep. TPD is my favorite. And then when a client, permanently incapacitated and, obviously, medication of relief that way and, you know, tax free up list and all the rest of the fun stuff. That's actually my wheelhouse. It's what I've done for sort of five years.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Insurance claims and CPD specific. Oh, yeah? No.\n\nYou're okay. So the your so your insurance policy is BT, which is TAL. So it's just a change of ownership. It's it's I I would like to say nice and easy. It's a pain in the absolute barrier of a document, but we we we'll we'll handle that for you.\n\nAnd by we, I mean, Caden. No. I I have someone that that deals with all of those documents and and helps me out with them. They are they are an absolute headache to deal with. Yeah.\n\nYep. But, yeah, we'll we we get the documents. We'll we'll fill them all out and everything. When you do email me tomorrow, I will need all of your SMSF details so I can get the cash rolled over. So it'll have to be, like, account numbers, your ESA, everything.\n\nPlease. Yes. Because I wanna make it as smooth as possible. And I wanna double check your bank account is definitely registered correctly. Okay.\n\nCool. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Cool.\n\nIf Sean's able to or you, it's actually a lot quicker for you to request the roll in from Hub twenty four over to your SMSF than it is for me to send the money. We we can you could basically request it today, tonight, to whenever, and then I get a notification. I sell it down anyway. But I wouldn't sell it down till you gave me authority as to how I'm selling it down. But, yeah, it's it's a lot quicker of a process because, otherwise, the Hub twenty four has to basically send the thing because it's an SMSF fund.\n\nWhen the SMSF requests it, it hits the ATO. The ATO does a verification, and then it comes through to Hub versus when it goes the other way because it's trying to connect to an SMSF fund, which is outside of, you know, its little network. It's Not what it is. It's just an absolute pain. It just it doesn't yeah.\n\nIt yeah. It will. Yeah. It just it they don't translate as well. It's just so much easier for the SMSF to pull the money and for a fund to push it.\n\nSo once I set it up, does does Sean have access to request? I have Sean's email as a email from an email you forwarded to me, so I'll reach out to him, and I'll check. That's okay. Because I'll be able to communicate and figure out where he's at and what he has access to and what he doesn't have access to and how it all works. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Because it's just it's just a SuperStream request. So, yeah, I'll touch base with him, and we'll go from there. Amazing. Alright.\n\nWell, I will get cracking. And when I hear from you, I'll hear from you, and we'll go from there. No. Absolutely fine. I get how long meetings can go for sometimes.\n\nI hope we'll chat later. Thanks. 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Glenn speaking. Good. Thanks. How are you? Yeah. Good. I thought, oh, I'll just better just say yes there. And then, you know, I just had a meeting with a lady who's got a a pet shop down in Victoria, and, yeah, it's just not not going too good for her, unfortunately. So and it just went went went for about fifty minutes. So it was usually half an hour. Need some meeting slots and, you know, so she did. Yeah. She just needs to figure out, you know, she's got a one year old child. She's not working in the business anymore. She's like, oh, you know, what do I, you know, currently afford to keep a manager on plus the receptionist plus something else? But, yeah, unfortunately, yeah, she's gonna ask her she's got an ATO debt as well, hence the reason she's calling me. So Like like a lot of people, unfortunately. So yeah. Yeah. It's frustrating. There's so many these days. You just say you've got a business, got a house. Yeah. The the mortgage would be 1,000,000. The house would be worth 1.2, and the ATO could be anywhere from 100 to 500 plus super. Yeah. Like, it's it's off the charts. So anyway, such as life. Yeah. We we can. Yeah. We do. We've got a couple of partners, like, referral partners that we that we use for lending. If if if required, I mean, ultimately, you know, we don't want anyone to sell their, you know, principal place of residence or anything like that. But if we can figure out a solution for them and they've got a bit of equity, then sometimes can help, definitely. Correct. Yeah. 11 at the moment. Yep. 100%. So anyway yeah. That's right. I always say to people, if you if you owe 200 k, it's like having a little, like, a mini home loan on steroids pretty much because it'll let 11 percent interest. You know? And and sure enough, you know, 98% of these people have got a high mortgage as well. So correct. Yeah. Yeah. So then they get caught because, you know, they've and you look at the balance sheet, and they've got flash cars sitting on there and, you know, paying yeah. Paying off, you know, Rams and all this sort of stuff. And you're like, oh my god. Like, just you just need to pull pull back a little bit here and just have a check and then, you know, like to, you know, to sort of restructure the company or set it up or whatever. You know, it can be anywhere from 15 to $25, but yet some of them go, oh, I don't wanna sell my car. I'm like, well, you don't have to sell your car, but you do owe half 1,000,000 in tax debt. So to pay for the to pay for the services or to restructure or to liquidate or whatever you need to do, you you're gonna have to come up with some money somewhere. Otherwise, yeah, otherwise, you get a date direct the penalty notice, and you'll be paying for it for the rest of your life. So but anyway yeah. Just do something. It's funny. Yeah. It's just for a short period of time, but at some stage, you just gotta make a call and go, well, you know, it's it's all a little bit too much. But anyway so, unfortunately yeah. And, you know, unfortunately, this young lady bought herself a franchise a few years ago when COVID was going through and little dog and grooming slash, you know, accessories. Now you can get every every part of that from from Bunnings and etcetera, etcetera. So plus online. So, yeah, just sort of left a few of them in a hole, I think, get excited at the time. But anyway anyway yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. It's just and, yeah, and she can't work in the business because she's got a one year old. Her husband works full time. So it's sort of, you know, she's paying through the eyeballs for staff because she can't physically work inside the business. So she's gonna have to have a talk with her hubby and make some real life decisions in the next twenty four hours because, yeah, her ATO tax debt was about six to eight weeks ago, which means that DPN is just around the corner. So Yep. So scary, but true. Yeah. It does. Yep. So, anyway, we try you know, we're just trying to help if we can and offer a solution. There's no sort of hard sales tactics or anything like that. Obviously, I've I've come from business, so I know exactly all the issues that you have, cash flow stuff, all that sort of stuff. So it's just whether we can help, you know, push them in the right direction. Just so not even push them, just open their eyes up to what's available to them to try and get themselves out of a, you know, out of a mess when they're still young and trying to bring families through and all that sort of stuff. So but yeah. So anyway but yeah. Oh, this is every day, Larissa. It's crazy. But I've I've got I've got another five people to call this afternoon, like, be exactly the same situation. Yeah. Nothing for nothing for me to have a 100 leads on the go at any time. You're pretty much yeah. You are. You you pretty much it's a to a certain point, like, you can sort of take it on to sometimes. You know what I mean? Like, you sort of go you feel sorry for these people, and you're trying to sort of help them unwind few things, but, yeah, sometimes you just go, oh my god. Like, I feel sorry for you. Something a lot of the time something's happened. You know, I I would say ninety percent of people come to me are divorced or been in a divorce at the moment. And, yeah, just yeah. It's a bit of counseling work at the same time and a bit of everything, but, yeah, it is what it is. So we can you know, we just like anyone, if you got half a piece of bone in your body, just try and help where you can. If we can help, we can. If we can't, we can't. And say, you know, no problem. So so anyway. Yep. Anyway, that's that's depressing. Let's talk about something better. Happier. Maybe. Yeah. Not not as bad. Anyway, put it that way. We don't have to not have to risk too much about the the implications, but yeah. First world problem. Yeah. You sort of covered those questions regarding the the fees. I was I I assumed if it was an aggregate trade, it probably would be zero, but I thought I better just check if I'm if I'm selling them all down. I was just thinking, you know, like, we we got some CGT there, you know, for sort of 8 and a half, $9 between the two of us. I'm assuming the email with the balance being correct, the CGT is probably still the same. Yeah. Cool. I think I got excited on two accounts, and I'm like, oh, cool. I've there's money that I haven't got, which I knew I didn't have. And then I was like and then I was like, oh, it's gonna be really nice if she's done that calculation based on the $2.00 6 balance. But effectively, it would have been a lot more than that if it was the case. So yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So anyway oh, yeah. The other thing I was like, oh, then I've then I've got, you know, sort of 40 positions between the two supers or 45, something like that. I'm thinking, god, if they're 25 to throw, then there's another thousand. You know what I mean? Like, so so yeah. So I think it's probably like, it's one of those decisions. I'll I'll just think I'll say what I think, and then you could tell me else otherwise. But I sort of go, well, I could let it roll for another twelve months, but then the CGT could be $8. It could it could be less. It could be more. Yeah. Lowered. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yep. So yeah. Righto. I think that was probably the main question just around the fees and that. I think I'm thinking primarily look. I'll probably it just sort of it's like poking yourself in the eye when you have to sell down positions that you bought at a good price. But it's you know, at the same time, you still you know, you've made a gain, so there's no shouldn't really look at it that way, I guess. Yeah. That's exactly right. So it's just sort of crystallizing a little bit, isn't it? But it gives me a chance to probably rebalance and put a new strategy in place with the cash once it once it clears and comes across. I mean, even the market's sort of probably a little bit well, it's sort of sitting in highs at the moment. I'm I'm potentially looking at property at some stage probably the next eighteen months to two years. So I'm being, you know, worst case scenario considered in the Macquarie account at nearly 6% at the moment. So it's probably, you know, probably need to handle that. And then just buying when the market drops. So if there's a if there's a panic at some stage, you could good chance to allocate some capital that way over a period of time maybe over the next six months. So and I think based on my fees from hub twenty four and stuff like that, it's probably only gonna be a two year lapse potentially, you know, to regain that CGT based on fees and bits and pieces. So I think everything's I've sort of I've sort of set the SMS f up to to be able to sort of do that to reduce the fees a little bit and, you know, have a little bit more control, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. So just over a period of time. I've been held for twelve months or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That makes sense. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It's probably more for me because I mean, we're sort of busy last year. I sold my business. I've changed houses, and I've sort of haven't really paid as much attention to them as I would have. I probably would have got out of a couple if I'd had a little bit you know what I mean? But then I go, oh, I've got an email, Connor, then I've got to do that, then I've got to sell it down. I'll go, oh, well, you know, if I push the button myself, I could just get it done there and then. But that's sort of what I'm thinking. So, yeah, that's that's another theory because Sean who sort of set up my self managed super fund, you know, I used to work with him. He's gonna have said the same thing. He said, well, you could potentially just bring it across over time. But, I mean, and then I'm paying sort of, you know, for the the managed super fund thing, Yeah. In fees, and then I'm still paying fees on both sides. To me, it's sort of defeating the purpose. So I think my initial thought is I think I'll just liquidate the whole lot and just do an aggregate sale over, you know, this week or next week or whatever it is. And that probably gives me a chance to get them all cleared out and potentially cash moved into at least the Macquarie account before the end of the month. And then maybe from the new financial year, then I you know? Or you do depending on what happens in the market for for June, I suppose, or when it comes across, potentially just start buying in on other positions. So yeah. Look. I mean, I'm I tried a little bit on the side besides my super side. Like, I I really you know, I don't have a I'm not one of these people that, you know, winches when I sell a particular stock because I know I can buy it back. So some people sort of sit there and hold losses for five or six years, and I I just Yep. I just prefer just to just deal with it and go, look, you know, shit happens and, you know, I can't control it. So I can control technicals to a certain point. Then after that, it's too bad, so sad. So I prefer just to leave whatever get rid of the the the loss and take the whatever's capital's left and push it into something else. That's just how I look at it. But yeah. So so yeah. Right. So what I might do is I'll just confirm with Marg tonight. She had to go out, unfortunately, but I've pretty much told her told her what was going on. She just goes here, whatever. So, yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's like anyway, that's fine. So she's like, yeah, that that'll be all good. Just you just decide what you think is best, but I'll I'll just I don't know making rash decisions straight away, but I'll just I'll I'll have I've pretty much sort of made up in mind that's what I'm gonna do. And I've got a couple there, especially, like, Crowdstrike and that they've gone through the roof the last month. It's gone up, like, 50%. So there's probably a couple there getting a bit toppy. So I might I might just email you tomorrow and just go, right now, let's just push the button or I might be slightly selective, but I'll have a think about it tonight and we'll we'll be perfect. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. No. That's fine. I understand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. No. I know how the combined stuff works. That's all good. So I've got I've got no issues with that, so that's all good. And then and probably any other question was that CGT, does that when does that come out of the account? Once it's cashed down or once it's transferred? Yep. Yes. That's all. Okay. Yes. Any okay. I'll pick your brain so that we don't mind holding you up for too long. What what what other options would you think are viable at this point? Or do you think I mean, I'm pretty much made my mind. I thought it'd be hard to to to wrangle it elsewhere. But Yes. Yes. Yep. What happens with our agreement, like, with you guys? We just once it's cashed out, do we end the whole shebang game? Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. That's cool. Yep. No stress. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hi. It's it and it's nothing against you guys. It's just a case of going well. I don't wanna pay fees in two areas, but I wanted the whole the whole premises is to shift it to reduce the fees and reduce the brokerage fees, and then I can be a little bit more active and so on. Yeah. Yeah. So Cool. Alright. Yep. Uh-huh. Would would you suggest I was thinking I might not dip it all back in anyway. Correct. Yeah. I I yeah. I was thinking maybe, you know, whatever the money ends up coming across, so it's $2.50, potentially just 100 k into the market, leave 150 and just play well, not play. Just trade the the 100 the 100 k for the next twelve months. And then that way, like you said, then it doesn't create that extra event where if I did yeah. If I chuck it all back in, then we're obviously not as bad, but if it has a good gain, then we're back to paying. Paying the spell down again. But if I keep yeah. If I keep what? A 150 or 5, and then it's sort of, you know, 20 percent for a deposit or something. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yep. Good to Yep. Same. So he's coming out loud and loud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Alright. Sounds like a plan. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. We gotta have a better trust and that's what's up. So Yep. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's it. Yeah. But, yeah, that's that's sort of my trial of thought anyway. So then at least if we do have to sell down a little bit more of the shares, then I guess if it is another CGT event, it might not be, you know, based on a percentage, it's probably not overall that bad in the scheme of things. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yep. Yes. Yes. I'm just about to do that process as we speak. So Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. No prob. So I will, yeah, I'll shoot you an email in the morning and just confirm what we've spoken about. And then, yeah, more more than happy for you to email Marg and myself out a a a compliance declaration, whatever you need to do to to get out. So your end is all clear. But, yeah, I'm not I'm not heading to the casino, unfortunately. So Yeah. I know. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's crazy. Some people go, oh, I'm just you know, they get the tax debt, and they go, oh, can I just pull, like, you know, a 100,000 out of my super? How much you got in there? Oh, 150, 200? Well, no. You can't can't touch it. You can have 5%, but it's gotta be for a bloody good reason. So So yeah. Yep. I bet you do. Yeah. Do you guys do you guys deal with those same things in in house? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All the time stands up. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, is it? Yeah. Okay. Yep. Oh, good. Good. Good. Good talking about this. Sorry. What what are we doing with our sorry. How do we carry over our insurances across into the self managed super fund? How does that work? Yep. Ah, okay. Ah, there it is. No. I think I have to check. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Craft date, you did all that stuff as well? Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've added it. Yep. Yes. It is. It is. Because I had to open a stake account, and it took a couple of days to clear. And then Sean said that when I originally did, he goes, it'll take x amount of time. He said then it'll actually take x amount of time for it to register with different places so that it comes up when you bring it up in your systems. So And that's And that's all active now. So Oh, okay. So what once it's sold down, then do I just request it? Or yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I noticed it came up in the in the portal state in the portal the other day. So which was the right. Okay. Well, we just just we do have the form that I that I need to send with that, or do I do I have to log in to her? To oh, I'm not sure. Fire. Yep. Oh, they did. Okay. Perfect. I think he should because I've given him the Macquarie Bank details and all that sort of stuff. So he's probably aware of what's going on. But, yeah, that that'd be great if you could. That'd be okay. Perfect. Okay. Alright. Alright. Perfect. Thank you for your time. Thanks for the mucking around to start there. So Eventually. Yeah. No problem. 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Glenn speaking. Good. Thanks. How are you?\n\nYeah. Good. I thought, oh, I'll just better just say yes there. And then, you know, I just had a meeting with a lady who's got a a pet shop down in Victoria, and, yeah, it's just not not going too good for her, unfortunately. So and it just went went went for about fifty minutes.\n\nSo it was usually half an hour. Need some meeting slots and, you know, so she did. Yeah. She just needs to figure out, you know, she's got a one year old child. She's not working in the business anymore.\n\nShe's like, oh, you know, what do I, you know, currently afford to keep a manager on plus the receptionist plus something else? But, yeah, unfortunately, yeah, she's gonna ask her she's got an ATO debt as well, hence the reason she's calling me. So Like like a lot of people, unfortunately. So yeah. Yeah.\n\nIt's frustrating. There's so many these days. You just say you've got a business, got a house. Yeah. The the mortgage would be 1,000,000.\n\nThe house would be worth 1.2, and the ATO could be anywhere from 100 to 500 plus super. Yeah. Like, it's it's off the charts. So anyway, such as life. Yeah.\n\nWe we can. Yeah. We do. We've got a couple of partners, like, referral partners that we that we use for lending. If if if required, I mean, ultimately, you know, we don't want anyone to sell their, you know, principal place of residence or anything like that.\n\nBut if we can figure out a solution for them and they've got a bit of equity, then sometimes can help, definitely. Correct. Yeah. 11 at the moment. Yep.\n\n100%. So anyway yeah. That's right. I always say to people, if you if you owe 200 k, it's like having a little, like, a mini home loan on steroids pretty much because it'll let 11 percent interest. You know?\n\nAnd and sure enough, you know, 98% of these people have got a high mortgage as well. So correct. Yeah. Yeah. So then they get caught because, you know, they've and you look at the balance sheet, and they've got flash cars sitting on there and, you know, paying yeah.\n\nPaying off, you know, Rams and all this sort of stuff. And you're like, oh my god. Like, just you just need to pull pull back a little bit here and just have a check and then, you know, like to, you know, to sort of restructure the company or set it up or whatever. You know, it can be anywhere from 15 to $25, but yet some of them go, oh, I don't wanna sell my car. I'm like, well, you don't have to sell your car, but you do owe half 1,000,000 in tax debt.\n\nSo to pay for the to pay for the services or to restructure or to liquidate or whatever you need to do, you you're gonna have to come up with some money somewhere. Otherwise, yeah, otherwise, you get a date direct the penalty notice, and you'll be paying for it for the rest of your life. So but anyway yeah. Just do something. It's funny.\n\nYeah. It's just for a short period of time, but at some stage, you just gotta make a call and go, well, you know, it's it's all a little bit too much. But anyway so, unfortunately yeah. And, you know, unfortunately, this young lady bought herself a franchise a few years ago when COVID was going through and little dog and grooming slash, you know, accessories. Now you can get every every part of that from from Bunnings and etcetera, etcetera.\n\nSo plus online. So, yeah, just sort of left a few of them in a hole, I think, get excited at the time. But anyway anyway yeah. That's it. Yeah.\n\nYeah. It's just and, yeah, and she can't work in the business because she's got a one year old. Her husband works full time. So it's sort of, you know, she's paying through the eyeballs for staff because she can't physically work inside the business. So she's gonna have to have a talk with her hubby and make some real life decisions in the next twenty four hours because, yeah, her ATO tax debt was about six to eight weeks ago, which means that DPN is just around the corner.\n\nSo Yep. So scary, but true. Yeah. It does. Yep.\n\nSo, anyway, we try you know, we're just trying to help if we can and offer a solution. There's no sort of hard sales tactics or anything like that. Obviously, I've I've come from business, so I know exactly all the issues that you have, cash flow stuff, all that sort of stuff. So it's just whether we can help, you know, push them in the right direction. Just so not even push them, just open their eyes up to what's available to them to try and get themselves out of a, you know, out of a mess when they're still young and trying to bring families through and all that sort of stuff.\n\nSo but yeah. So anyway but yeah. Oh, this is every day, Larissa. It's crazy. But I've I've got I've got another five people to call this afternoon, like, be exactly the same situation.\n\nYeah. Nothing for nothing for me to have a 100 leads on the go at any time. You're pretty much yeah. You are. You you pretty much it's a to a certain point, like, you can sort of take it on to sometimes.\n\nYou know what I mean? Like, you sort of go you feel sorry for these people, and you're trying to sort of help them unwind few things, but, yeah, sometimes you just go, oh my god. Like, I feel sorry for you. Something a lot of the time something's happened. You know, I I would say ninety percent of people come to me are divorced or been in a divorce at the moment.\n\nAnd, yeah, just yeah. It's a bit of counseling work at the same time and a bit of everything, but, yeah, it is what it is. So we can you know, we just like anyone, if you got half a piece of bone in your body, just try and help where you can. If we can help, we can. If we can't, we can't.\n\nAnd say, you know, no problem. So so anyway. Yep. Anyway, that's that's depressing. Let's talk about something better.\n\nHappier. Maybe. Yeah. Not not as bad. Anyway, put it that way.\n\nWe don't have to not have to risk too much about the the implications, but yeah. First world problem. Yeah. You sort of covered those questions regarding the the fees. I was I I assumed if it was an aggregate trade, it probably would be zero, but I thought I better just check if I'm if I'm selling them all down.\n\nI was just thinking, you know, like, we we got some CGT there, you know, for sort of 8 and a half, $9 between the two of us. I'm assuming the email with the balance being correct, the CGT is probably still the same. Yeah. Cool. I think I got excited on two accounts, and I'm like, oh, cool.\n\nI've there's money that I haven't got, which I knew I didn't have. And then I was like and then I was like, oh, it's gonna be really nice if she's done that calculation based on the $2.00 6 balance. But effectively, it would have been a lot more than that if it was the case. So yeah. Yeah.\n\nExactly. So anyway oh, yeah. The other thing I was like, oh, then I've then I've got, you know, sort of 40 positions between the two supers or 45, something like that. I'm thinking, god, if they're 25 to throw, then there's another thousand. You know what I mean?\n\nLike, so so yeah. So I think it's probably like, it's one of those decisions. I'll I'll just think I'll say what I think, and then you could tell me else otherwise. But I sort of go, well, I could let it roll for another twelve months, but then the CGT could be $8. It could it could be less.\n\nIt could be more. Yeah. Lowered. Yes. Yep.\n\nYeah. Right. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Of course. Yep. So yeah. Righto.\n\nI think that was probably the main question just around the fees and that. I think I'm thinking primarily look. I'll probably it just sort of it's like poking yourself in the eye when you have to sell down positions that you bought at a good price. But it's you know, at the same time, you still you know, you've made a gain, so there's no shouldn't really look at it that way, I guess. Yeah.\n\nThat's exactly right. So it's just sort of crystallizing a little bit, isn't it? But it gives me a chance to probably rebalance and put a new strategy in place with the cash once it once it clears and comes across. I mean, even the market's sort of probably a little bit well, it's sort of sitting in highs at the moment. I'm I'm potentially looking at property at some stage probably the next eighteen months to two years.\n\nSo I'm being, you know, worst case scenario considered in the Macquarie account at nearly 6% at the moment. So it's probably, you know, probably need to handle that. And then just buying when the market drops. So if there's a if there's a panic at some stage, you could good chance to allocate some capital that way over a period of time maybe over the next six months. So and I think based on my fees from hub twenty four and stuff like that, it's probably only gonna be a two year lapse potentially, you know, to regain that CGT based on fees and bits and pieces.\n\nSo I think everything's I've sort of I've sort of set the SMS f up to to be able to sort of do that to reduce the fees a little bit and, you know, have a little bit more control, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. So just over a period of time. I've been held for twelve months or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYep. Yeah. That makes sense. Yep. Yep.\n\nYeah. It's probably more for me because I mean, we're sort of busy last year. I sold my business. I've changed houses, and I've sort of haven't really paid as much attention to them as I would have. 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Glenn speaking.\n\nChannel 0: Hi, Glenn. Larissa from Oakview Financial. How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: Good. Thanks. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Good. I missed your email saying you're all good, and I saw the notification where where you accepted the invite, and I was like, oh, he must be available.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good. I thought, oh, I'll just better just say yes there. And then, you know, I just had a meeting with a lady who's got a a pet shop down in Victoria, and, yeah, it's just not not going too good for her, unfortunately. So\n\nChannel 0: Oh, wow.\n\nChannel 1: and it just went went went for about fifty minutes. So it was usually half an hour. Need some meeting slots and,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: you know,\n\nChannel 0: She\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: just needs some extra TLC.\n\nChannel 1: she did. Yeah. She just needs to figure out, you know, she's got a one year old child. She's not working in the business anymore. 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Nothing for nothing for me to have a 100 leads on the go at any time.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. You almost you almost financial counseling at the same time as everything else, which, I mean, I do\n\nChannel 1: You're\n\nChannel 0: too.\n\nChannel 1: pretty much yeah. You are. You you pretty much it's a to a certain point, like, you can sort of take it on to sometimes. You know what I mean? Like, you sort of\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: go you feel sorry for these people, and you're trying to sort of help them unwind few things, but, yeah, sometimes you just go, oh my god. Like, I feel sorry for you. Something a lot of the time something's happened. You know, I I would say ninety percent of people come to me are divorced or been in a divorce at the moment. And, yeah, just yeah.\n\nIt's a bit of counseling work at the same time and a bit of everything, but, yeah, it is what it is. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we can you know, we just like anyone, if you got half a piece of bone in your body, just try and help where you can. If we can help, we can. If we can't, we can't. And say, you know, no problem. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: Get\n\nChannel 1: anyway.\n\nChannel 0: there slowly.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Anyway, that's that's depressing. Let's talk about something\n\nChannel 0: Better, happier,\n\nChannel 1: better.\n\nChannel 0: maybe.\n\nChannel 1: Happier. Maybe. Yeah. Not not as bad. Anyway, put it that way.\n\nWe don't have\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: to not have to risk too much about the the implications, but yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: First world problem.\n\nChannel 0: That's okay. It might have some problems. So what questions did you maybe have?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. You sort of covered those questions regarding the the fees. I was I I assumed if it was an aggregate trade, it probably would be zero, but I thought I better just check\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: if I'm if I'm selling them all down. I was just thinking, you know, like, we we got some CGT there, you know, for sort of 8 and a half, $9 between the two of us. I'm assuming the email with the balance being correct, the CGT is probably still the same.\n\nChannel 0: The CGC is still correct. Yeah. I just I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: manually\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: typed it, and I just screwed up.\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: Two\n\nChannel 1: think\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: seven\n\nChannel 1: got excited\n\nChannel 0: one.\n\nChannel 1: on two accounts, and I'm like, oh, cool. I've there's money that I haven't got, which I knew I didn't have. And then I was like and then I was like, oh, it's gonna be really nice if she's done that calculation based on the $2.00 6 balance.\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: But effectively, it would have been a lot more than that if it was the case. So\n\nChannel 0: Yes. A lot more.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So anyway oh, yeah. The other thing I was like, oh, then I've then I've got, you know, sort of 40 positions between the two supers or 45, something like that.\n\nI'm thinking, god, if they're 25 to throw, then there's another thousand. You know what I mean? Like, so\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: so yeah. So I think it's probably like, it's one of those decisions. I'll I'll just think I'll say what I think, and then you could tell me else otherwise.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But I sort of go, well, I could let it roll for another twelve months, but then the CGT could be $8. It could it could be less. It could be more.\n\nChannel 0: It just it will kind of depend. Like, yes, you are correct. It could be more, but at the same time,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it's more probable\n\nChannel 1: Lowered.\n\nChannel 0: to be less.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: And that's purely and simply because, like, if you have a look at the breakdown report that I sent you last week,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: you'll see that there's a bunch of the assets that are discounted because you've held them for more than twelve months, but there are a bunch that aren't discounted because you haven't held them for twelve months yet.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Right.\n\nChannel 0: So the discounts will kick in in twelve months\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if\n\nChannel 1: Fuck.\n\nChannel 0: you wanna roll that. But, yeah, 100%. The the market could bounce up, which means that your gain is higher, which means that the capital gain is higher again as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yep. So yeah.\n\nRighto. I think that was probably the main question just around the fees and that. I think I'm thinking primarily look. I'll probably it just sort of it's like poking yourself in the eye when you have to sell down positions that you bought at a good price. But\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: it's you know, at the same time, you still you know, you've made a gain, so there's no shouldn't really look at it that way, I guess.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. You're you're you're you're liquidating again like, you're solidifying again.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's exactly right. So it's just sort of crystallizing a little bit, isn't it? But it gives\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: me a chance to probably rebalance and put a new strategy in place with the cash once it once it clears and comes across. I mean, even the market's sort of probably a little bit well, it's sort of sitting in highs at the moment. I'm I'm potentially looking at property at some stage probably the next eighteen months to two years.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So I'm being, you know, worst case scenario considered in the Macquarie account at nearly 6% at the moment. So it's probably, you know, probably need to handle that. And then just buying when the market drops. So if there's a if there's a panic at some stage, you could good chance to allocate some capital that way\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: over a period of time maybe over the next six months.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So and I think based on my fees from hub twenty four and stuff like that, it's probably only gonna be a two year lapse potentially, you know, to regain that CGT based on fees and bits and pieces. So I think everything's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I've sort of I've sort of set the SMS f up to to be able to sort of do that to reduce the fees a little bit and, you know, have a little bit more control, I suppose.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. The other option available to you just to to throw options out\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: because I that's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: what I do, is\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: you could always liquidate specific assets and do a slow transfer.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. So just over a period of time.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So you could just be selective with which assets you you sell down.\n\nChannel 1: I've been held for twelve months or\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And we could just go, like, a FIFO base, like a first in, first out type of sales structure or, you know, c CGT conscious. Like, you do have gains across a lot of your portfolio, but there are still some losses that'll offset\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So, you you know, if you if you specifically wanted to look at assets, you know, that were hitting the right price for you based on a sale, we could sort of do it that way. Whereas, you know, if you were predicting or had assets that you were sort of wanting to hold to wait for them to bounce or for you know, if you had a prediction based on, you know, the assets or whatever\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you held.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah. That makes sense.\n\nChannel 0: But, yeah, like, that's just a I guess an option that I was looking at when I was looking at your accounts and because, obviously, you've bought very, very, very specific stocks.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So if you had specific target\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: prices that you were trying to hit.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. It's probably more for me because I mean,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we're sort of busy last year. I sold my business. I've changed houses, and I've sort of haven't really paid as much attention to them as I would have. I probably would have got out of a couple if I'd had a little bit you know what I mean? But then I go, oh, I've got an email, Connor, then I've got to do that, then I've got to sell it down.\n\nI'll go, oh, well, you know, if I push the button myself, I could just get it done there and then.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But that's sort of what I'm thinking. So, yeah, that's that's another theory because Sean who sort of set up my self managed super fund, you know, I used to work with him. He's gonna have said the same thing. He said, well, you could potentially just bring it across over time. But, I mean, and then I'm paying\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: sort of, you know, for the the managed\n\nChannel 0: Did\n\nChannel 1: super\n\nChannel 0: did you\n\nChannel 1: fund\n\nChannel 0: yes.\n\nChannel 1: thing, Yeah. In fees, and then I'm still paying fees on both sides. To me, it's sort\n\nChannel 0: It\n\nChannel 1: of defeating\n\nChannel 0: is.\n\nChannel 1: the purpose.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So I think my initial thought is I think I'll just liquidate the whole lot and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: just do an aggregate sale over, you know, this week or next week or whatever it is.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: And that probably gives me a chance to get them all cleared out and potentially cash moved into at least the Macquarie account before the end of the month. And then maybe from the new financial year, then I you know? Or you do depending on what happens in the market for for June, I suppose, or\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: when it comes across, potentially just start buying in on other positions. So yeah. Look. I mean, I'm I tried a little bit on the side besides my super side. Like, I I really you know, I don't have a I'm not one of these people that, you know, winches when I sell a particular stock because I know I can buy it back.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: some people sort of sit there and hold losses for five or six years,\n\nChannel 0: Forever.\n\nChannel 1: and I I just\n\nChannel 0: I know.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. I just prefer just to just deal with it and go, look, you know, shit happens and, you know, I can't control it. So I can control technicals to a certain point. Then after that, it's too bad, so sad. So I prefer just to leave whatever get rid of the the the loss and take the whatever's capital's left and push it into something else.\n\nThat's just how I look at it. But\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. So so yeah. Right. So what I might do is I'll just confirm with Marg tonight. She had to go out, unfortunately, but I've pretty much told her told her what was going on.\n\nShe just goes here, whatever. So,\n\nChannel 0: You do your bed.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's like anyway, that's fine.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So she's like, yeah, that that'll be all good. Just you just decide what you think is best, but I'll I'll just I don't know making rash decisions straight away, but I'll just I'll I'll have I've pretty much sort of made up in mind that's what I'm gonna do.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And I've got a couple there, especially, like, Crowdstrike and that they've gone through the roof the last month. It's gone up, like, 50%. So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: there's probably a couple there getting a bit toppy. So I might I might just email you tomorrow and just go, right now, let's just push the button or I might be\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: slightly selective, but I'll have a think about it tonight and\n\nChannel 0: Yep. I'm\n\nChannel 1: we'll\n\nChannel 0: I'm gonna be\n\nChannel 1: we'll\n\nChannel 0: really\n\nChannel 1: be perfect.\n\nChannel 0: firm in this because I know that\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: you have like, previously, you've been emailing Connor, and that's been, like, basically the instruction.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: For this, for a full sell, when you email, you can email me, cc Connor, and so that way we both get it. That's fine. But\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I am gonna draw a document up, and I'm gonna send it through to both of you for you guys to sign. I will do it same\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: day,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and I'm happy\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: for you guys to sign it same day, and I'll action it same day.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: But I'm\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: gonna\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: get\n\nChannel 1: fine.\n\nChannel 0: you both\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: understand.\n\nChannel 0: sign it if you're yeah. Cool.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No.\n\nNo. No. I know how the combined stuff works. That's all good. So I've got I've\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: got no issues with that, so that's all good. And then and probably any other question was that CGT, does that when does that come out of the account? Once it's cashed down or once it's\n\nChannel 0: Once\n\nChannel 1: transferred?\n\nChannel 0: it's cash no. Cash down. So once it's once it's sold, basically, Hub will do like, sell it all. Once it's all sold before they\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: do the transfer out, they'll\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: hold\n\nChannel 1: all.\n\nChannel 0: back the cash,\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: pay the cash. They pay the CGT they need to. They get any\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: fees and go from there.\n\nChannel 1: Any okay. I'll pick your brain so that we don't mind holding you up for too long.\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: What\n\nChannel 0: perfect.\n\nChannel 1: what what other options would you think are viable at this point? Or do you think I mean, I'm pretty much made my mind. I thought it'd be hard to to to wrangle it elsewhere.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: The only other option you really have available is you could hold hub 24 until you're ready to purchase the property. And then when you're ready to purchase the property, then liquidate, transfer over to cash, do the property purchase.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: You know? And you could you could still structure it to the SMSF, but and then you're paying CGT twice, which makes no sense. So you just hold the structure you have now, keep the SMSF\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: open. It's not operational. It'll just it'll sit there.\n\nChannel 1: What happens with our agreement, like, with you guys? We just once it's cashed out, do we end the whole shebang game?\n\nChannel 0: It's done. Yeah. Once it's cashed\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: out, it it the account closes and the agreement ceases.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Okay. Yeah. That's cool. Yep.\n\nNo stress.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I'll put\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it in the document that that's basically your wishes, but, yeah,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Hi. It's it and it's nothing against you guys. It's just a case\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: of going well. I don't wanna pay fees in two areas, but I wanted\n\nChannel 0: fine.\n\nChannel 1: the whole\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: the whole premises is to shift it to reduce the fees and reduce the brokerage fees,\n\nChannel 0: Collective.\n\nChannel 1: and then I can be a little bit more active\n\nChannel 0: Hands on.\n\nChannel 1: and so on. Yeah. Yeah. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely. Yeah. Basically,\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: the options you have available, though, is, like, basically, hold, do it later, do\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: it now. If you do I I guess I wanna do caution. If you do it now, then buy into assets. You're gonna CGT\n\nChannel 1: Uh-huh.\n\nChannel 0: trigger again when you sell down to purchase the property. That's probably something I wanna forewarn you on, but, otherwise,\n\nChannel 1: Would would you suggest I was thinking I might not dip it all back in anyway.\n\nChannel 0: just be selective with how much you put in. Leave the others in cash and hold cash until\n\nChannel 1: Correct. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you're ready to pay.\n\nChannel 1: I I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. I was thinking maybe, you know, whatever the money ends up coming across, so it's $2.50, potentially just 100 k into the market, leave 150 and just play well, not play. Just trade the\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: the 100 the 100\n\nChannel 0: Hundreds.\n\nChannel 1: k for the next twelve months. And then that way, like you said, then it doesn't create that extra event where if I did yeah. If I chuck it all back in, then we're obviously not as bad, but if it has a good gain, then we're back to paying. Paying the spell down again.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: if I keep yeah. If I keep what? A 150 or 5, and then\n\nChannel 0: In\n\nChannel 1: it's sort\n\nChannel 0: case\n\nChannel 1: of, you know, 20 percent\n\nChannel 0: you could\n\nChannel 1: for a deposit or something.\n\nChannel 0: not in an SMSF. An SMSF isn't like, it is 20%, but it I mean, it all just depends. You also have to keep which you will have cash, like yeah. No. That would work, actually.\n\nNo. Sorry. I'm sorry. Thinking out loud. That would work because\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 0: you you have you have you have cash in the account. You have to keep generally, like, cash available, which the stock\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: is considered a liquid liquid asset, so that's fine. Yeah. So no. Yeah. That would that would work.\n\nYou don't have to keep it in cash. You could always term deposit\n\nChannel 1: Oh, yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: the 100 and\n\nChannel 1: Good\n\nChannel 0: 50\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: just depending on the rates and what's available.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: You could just, yeah, term deposit it. So\n\nChannel 1: Same.\n\nChannel 0: that way, you have it doing a thing. Just, obviously, cautionary tale. Be careful on how long you term deposit it and making sure that cash is available when you wanna buy.\n\nChannel 1: So he's coming out loud and loud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. But, no, otherwise, that that's perfectly perfectly sound\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: in terms of a method. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Alright.\n\nChannel 0: Just\n\nChannel 1: Sounds\n\nChannel 0: make\n\nChannel 1: like\n\nChannel 0: sure you\n\nChannel 1: a plan.\n\nChannel 0: definitely keep yes. Definitely keep what you need available to do the property purchase. So have a\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: chat to your SMSF\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: guy or your property guy or whoever it is that's helping you with\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that property structure,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and just make sure that you've noted out what you would need based on your purchase price for the property because SMSF\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: structures are different with property purchases to\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: what it is,\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: like\n\nChannel 1: right.\n\nChannel 0: a personal.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. We gotta have a better trust and that's what's up. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's it.\n\nYeah. But, yeah, that's that's sort of my trial of thought anyway. So then at least if we do have to sell down a little bit more of the shares, then I guess if it is another CGT event, it might not be, you know, based on a percentage, it's probably not overall that bad in the scheme of things.\n\nChannel 0: No. And it's it's CGT within an SMSF that you don't have to pay it immediately, like, same as yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: The\n\nChannel 1: Correct.\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: like, the other reason you're gonna have to pay the CGT, like, with the Hub twenty four account is because you're rolling out. So Hub twenty four has\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to settle all all bills before before it\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: closes. With your SMSF, you can always carry over and figure out that\n\nChannel 1: Sure.\n\nChannel 0: it end the finance year, offset it, blah blah blah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Accounting nonsense, as you know.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yes. I'm just about to do that process as we speak. So Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I think that's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: Cool.\n\nChannel 0: everything I can kinda think of on that, like, option side.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. No prob. So I will, yeah, I'll shoot you an email in the morning and just confirm what we've spoken about. And then,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, more more than happy for you to email Marg and myself out a a a compliance declaration, whatever you\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: need to do to to get out. So your end is all clear. But, yeah, I'm not I'm not heading to the casino, unfortunately. So\n\nChannel 0: Look. You can, but, you know, that the the the man's gonna come after you eventually\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: asking\n\nChannel 1: I know.\n\nChannel 0: what\n\nChannel 1: Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: happened.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's crazy. Some people go, oh, I'm just you know, they get the tax debt, and they go, oh, can I just pull, like, you know, a 100,000 out of my super?\n\nHow much you got in there? Oh, 150, 200? Well, no. You\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: can't can't touch it. You can have 5%, but it's gotta be for a bloody good reason.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. We get the calls all the time. Trust me.\n\nChannel 1: So yeah. Yep. I bet\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: you do. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. All the time.\n\nChannel 1: Do you guys do you guys deal with those same things in in house?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Well, so we we we deal with, you know, ATO\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: compassionate claims and and financial also the financial hardship claims and\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: withdrawals and yeah. Absolutely. All the time.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. All the time stands\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: up.\n\nChannel 0: TPD is my favorite. And then when a client, permanently\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: incapacitated\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: and,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: obviously, medication of relief that way and, you know, tax free up list and all the rest of the fun stuff. That's actually my wheelhouse. It's what I've done for sort of\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: five\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: years.\n\nChannel 1: is it? Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Insurance claims\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and CPD specific.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, good. Good. Good. Good talking about this.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, yeah?\n\nChannel 1: Sorry. What\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: what\n\nChannel 0: You're\n\nChannel 1: are\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: we doing with our sorry. How do we carry over our insurances across into the self managed super fund? How does that work?\n\nChannel 0: So the your so your insurance\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: policy is BT, which is TAL. So it's just a change of ownership. It's it's\n\nChannel 1: Ah, okay.\n\nChannel 0: I I would like to say nice and easy. It's a pain\n\nChannel 1: Ah,\n\nChannel 0: in the absolute barrier of a document,\n\nChannel 1: there it is.\n\nChannel 0: but we we we'll we'll handle that for you. And by we, I mean, Caden. No. I I have someone that that deals with all of those documents and and helps me out with them. They are they are an absolute headache\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: to deal\n\nChannel 1: I think\n\nChannel 0: with.\n\nChannel 1: I have to\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: check.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. But, yeah, we'll we we get the documents. We'll we'll fill them all out and everything. When you do email me tomorrow, I will need all of your SMSF details so I can get\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: the cash rolled over. So it'll have to be, like, account numbers, your ESA,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: everything.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yep. Craft date, you did all that stuff as well?\n\nChannel 0: Please. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Because I wanna make it as smooth as possible.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And I\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: wanna\n\nChannel 1: I've\n\nChannel 0: double\n\nChannel 1: added\n\nChannel 0: check your bank account is\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: definitely registered\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: correctly.\n\nChannel 1: It is.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: It is. Because I had to\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: open a stake account, and it took a couple of days to clear. And then Sean said that when I originally did, he goes, it'll take x amount of time. He said then it'll actually take x amount of time for it to register with different places so that it\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: comes up when you bring it up in your systems. So\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And that's And that's all active now. So\n\nChannel 0: Cool. If Sean's able to or you, it's actually a lot quicker for you to request the roll in from Hub twenty four over to your SMSF than it is for me to send the money.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, okay. So what once it's sold down, then do I just request it? Or\n\nChannel 0: We we can you could basically request it today, tonight, to whenever, and then I get a notification. I sell it down anyway.\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: But I wouldn't sell it down till you gave me authority as to how I'm selling it down.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: But, yeah, it's it's a lot quicker of a process because, otherwise, the Hub twenty four has to basically send the thing because it's an SMSF fund. 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You know, I I would say ninety percent of people come to me are divorced or been in a divorce at the moment. And, yeah, just yeah. It's a bit of counseling work at the same time and a bit of everything, but, yeah, it is what it is. So Yeah. we can you know, we just like anyone, if you got half a piece of bone in your body, just try and help where you can. If we can help, we can. If we can't, we can't. And say, you know, no problem. So Yeah. so Get anyway. there slowly. Yep.","start_word":1201,"end_word":1310,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.030289266258478165},{"text":"Anyway, that's that's depressing.","start_word":1311,"end_word":1314,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5627924203872681},{"text":"Let's talk about something Better, happier, better.","start_word":1315,"end_word":1321,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.12080352008342744},{"text":"maybe. 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I just I Yeah. manually Cool.","start_word":1324,"end_word":1468,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04712240770459175},{"text":"typed it, and I just screwed up.","start_word":1469,"end_word":1475,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3371613025665283},{"text":"I Two think and I seven got excited one. on two accounts, and I'm like, oh, cool. I've there's money that I haven't got, which I knew I didn't have. And then I was like and then I was like, oh, it's gonna be really nice if she's done that calculation based on the $2.00 6 balance. No. But effectively, it would have been a lot more than that if it was the case. So Yes. A lot more. yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So anyway oh, yeah. The other thing I was like, oh, then I've then I've got, you know, sort of 40 positions between the two supers or 45, something like that. I'm thinking, god, if they're 25 to throw, then there's another thousand. You know what I mean? Like, so Yeah. so yeah. So I think it's probably like, it's one of those decisions. I'll I'll just think I'll say what I think, and then you could tell me else otherwise. Yeah. But I sort of go, well, I could let it roll for another twelve months, but then the CGT could be $8. It could it could be less. It could be more. It just it will kind of depend. Like, yes, you are correct. It could be more, but at the same time, Yeah. it's more probable Lowered. to be less. Yes. And that's purely and simply because, like, if you have a look at the breakdown report that I sent you last week, Yep. you'll see that there's a bunch of the assets that are discounted because you've held them for more than twelve months, but there are a bunch that aren't discounted because you haven't held them for twelve months yet. Yeah. Right. So the discounts will kick in in twelve months Yeah.","start_word":1476,"end_word":1774,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.05137367133225585},{"text":"if Fuck. you wanna roll that.","start_word":1775,"end_word":1780,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4790749251842499},{"text":"But, yeah, 100%. The the market could bounce up, which means that your gain is higher, which means that the capital gain is higher again as well. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yep. So yeah. Righto. I think that was probably the main question just around the fees and that. I think I'm thinking primarily look. I'll probably it just sort of it's like poking yourself in the eye when you have to sell down positions that you bought at a good price. But Yeah. it's you know, at the same time, you still you know, you've made a gain, so there's no shouldn't really look at it that way, I guess. Yeah. You're you're you're you're liquidating again like, you're solidifying again. Yeah. That's exactly right. So it's just sort of crystallizing a little bit, isn't it? But it gives Yep. me a chance to probably rebalance and put a new strategy in place with the cash once it once it clears and comes across. I mean, even the market's sort of probably a little bit well, it's sort of sitting in highs at the moment. I'm I'm potentially looking at property at some stage probably the next eighteen months to two years. Yep. So I'm being, you know, worst case scenario considered in the Macquarie account at nearly 6% at the moment. So it's probably, you know, probably need to handle that. And then just buying when the market drops. So if there's a if there's a panic at some stage, you could good chance to allocate some capital that way Yeah. over a period of time maybe over the next six months. Yeah. So and I think based on my fees from hub twenty four and stuff like that, it's probably only gonna be a two year lapse potentially, you know, to regain that CGT based on fees and bits and pieces. So I think everything's Yeah. I've sort of I've sort of set the SMS f up to to be able to sort of do that to reduce the fees a little bit and, you know, have a little bit more control, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. The other option available to you just to to throw options out Yeah. because I that's Yeah. what I do, is Yep. you could always liquidate specific assets and do a slow transfer. Yep. Yep. So just over a period of time. Yeah. So you could just be selective with which assets you you sell down. I've been held for twelve months or Yeah. And we could just go, like, a FIFO base, like a first in, first out type of sales structure or, you know, c CGT conscious. Like, you do have gains across a lot of your portfolio, but there are still some losses that'll offset Yeah. it. Yeah. So, you you know, if you if you specifically wanted to look at assets, you know, that were hitting the right price for you based on a sale, we could sort of do it that way. Whereas, you know, if you were predicting or had assets that you were sort of wanting to hold to wait for them to bounce or for you know, if you had a prediction based on, you know, the assets or whatever Yeah. you held. Yep. Yeah. That makes sense. But, yeah, like, that's just a I guess an option that I was looking at when I was looking at your accounts and because, obviously, you've bought very, very, very specific stocks. Yep. So if you had specific target Yep. prices that you were trying to hit. Yeah. It's probably more for me because I mean, Yeah. we're sort of busy last year. I sold my business. I've changed houses, and I've sort of haven't really paid as much attention to them as I would have. I probably would have got out of a couple if I'd had a little bit you know what I mean? But then I go, oh, I've got an email, Connor, then I've got to do that, then I've got to sell it down. I'll go, oh, well, you know, if I push the button myself, I could just get it done there and then. Yeah. But that's sort of what I'm thinking. So, yeah, that's that's another theory because Sean who sort of set up my self managed super fund, you know, I used to work with him. He's gonna have said the same thing. He said, well, you could potentially just bring it across over time. But, I mean, and then I'm paying Yeah. sort of, you know, for the the managed Did super did you fund yes. thing, Yeah.","start_word":1781,"end_word":2563,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0036056749736783143},{"text":"In fees, and then I'm still paying fees on both sides. To me, it's sort It of defeating is. the purpose.","start_word":2564,"end_word":2584,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4050637185573578},{"text":"Yeah. So I think my initial thought is I think I'll just liquidate the whole lot and Yeah. just do an aggregate sale over, you know, this week or next week or whatever it is. Yep. And that probably gives me a chance to get them all cleared out and potentially cash moved into at least the Macquarie account before the end of the month. And then maybe from the new financial year, then I you know? Or you do depending on what happens in the market for for June, I suppose, or Yeah. when it comes across, potentially just start buying in on other positions. So yeah. Look. I mean, I'm I tried a little bit on the side besides my super side. Like, I I really you know, I don't have a I'm not one of these people that, you know, winches when I sell a particular stock because I know I can buy it back. So Yep. some people sort of sit there and hold losses for five or six years, Forever. and I I just I know. Yep. I just prefer just to just deal with it and go, look, you know, shit happens and, you know, I can't control it. So I can control technicals to a certain point.","start_word":2585,"end_word":2798,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06526418726577937},{"text":"Then after that, it's too bad, so sad.","start_word":2799,"end_word":2806,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.47233596444129944},{"text":"So I prefer just to leave whatever get rid of the the the loss and take the whatever's capital's left and push it into something else. That's just how I look at it. But Yeah. yeah. So so yeah. Right. So what I might do is I'll just confirm with Marg tonight. She had to go out, unfortunately, but I've pretty much told her told her what was going on. She just goes here, whatever. So, You do your bed. yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's like anyway, that's fine.","start_word":2807,"end_word":2895,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.019606761634349823},{"text":"Yeah. So she's like, yeah, that that'll be all good.","start_word":2896,"end_word":2905,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4107440412044525},{"text":"Just you just decide what you think is best, but I'll I'll just I don't know making rash decisions straight away, but I'll just I'll I'll have I've pretty much sort of made up in mind that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah.","start_word":2906,"end_word":2947,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06426835805177689},{"text":"And I've got a couple there, especially, like, Crowdstrike and that they've gone through the roof the last month.","start_word":2948,"end_word":2966,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34475088119506836},{"text":"It's gone up, like, 50%. So Yep. there's probably a couple there getting a bit toppy. So I might I might just email you tomorrow and just go, right now, let's just push the button or I might be Yep. slightly selective, but I'll have a think about it tonight and Yep.","start_word":2967,"end_word":3018,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05286969244480133},{"text":"I'm we'll I'm gonna be we'll really be perfect.","start_word":3019,"end_word":3027,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.43469157814979553},{"text":"firm in this because I know that Yep. you have like, previously, you've been emailing Connor, and that's been, like, basically the instruction. Yep. For this, for a full sell, when you email, you can email me, cc Connor, and so that way we both get it. That's fine. But Yep. I am gonna draw a document up, and I'm gonna send it through to both of you for you guys to sign. I will do it same Okay. day, Yep.","start_word":3028,"end_word":3108,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.13013559579849243},{"text":"and I'm happy Yep.","start_word":3109,"end_word":3112,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5006517767906189},{"text":"for you guys to sign it same day, and I'll action it same day. Yep. But I'm No. gonna That's get fine. you both I to understand. sign it if you're yeah. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. No. I know how the combined stuff works.","start_word":3113,"end_word":3159,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10581893473863602},{"text":"That's all good. So I've got I've Cool. got no issues with that, so that's all good.","start_word":3160,"end_word":3176,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5217914581298828},{"text":"And then and probably any other question was that CGT, does that when does that come out of the account? Once it's cashed down or once it's Once transferred? it's cash no. Cash down. So once it's once it's sold, basically, Hub will do like, sell it all. Once it's all sold before they Yep. do the transfer out, they'll Yes. just That's hold all. back the cash, Okay. pay the cash. They pay the CGT they need to. They get any Yes. fees and go from there. Any okay. I'll pick your brain so that we don't mind holding you up for too long.","start_word":3177,"end_word":3281,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.042719085656461264},{"text":"Oh, What perfect.","start_word":3282,"end_word":3284,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4343938827514648},{"text":"what what other options would you think are viable at this point? Or do you think I mean, I'm pretty much made my mind. I thought it'd be hard to to to wrangle it elsewhere. Yeah. But The only other option you really have available is you could hold hub 24 until you're ready to purchase the property. And then when you're ready to purchase the property, then liquidate, transfer over to cash, do the property purchase. Yes. You know? And you could you could still structure it to the SMSF, but and then you're paying CGT twice, which makes no sense. So you just hold the structure you have now, keep the SMSF Yes. Yep. open. It's not operational. It'll just it'll sit there. What happens with our agreement, like, with you guys? We just once it's cashed out, do we end the whole shebang game? It's done. Yeah. Once it's cashed Yep. out, it it the account closes and the agreement ceases. Yep. Okay. Yeah.","start_word":3285,"end_word":3451,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.02591230347752571},{"text":"That's cool.","start_word":3452,"end_word":3453,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.35773345828056335},{"text":"Yep. No stress. Yeah. I'll put Yeah. it in the document that that's basically your wishes, but, yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Hi. It's it and it's nothing against you guys. It's just a case that's of going well. I don't wanna pay fees in two areas, but I wanted fine. the whole Yeah. the whole premises is to shift it to reduce the fees and reduce the brokerage Collective. fees, and then I can be a little bit more active Hands on. and so on. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah.","start_word":3454,"end_word":3541,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.11384143680334093},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":3542,"end_word":3542,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3825020492076874},{"text":"Absolutely. Yeah. Basically, Alright. the options you have available, though, is, like, basically, hold, do it later, do Yep. it now. If you do I I guess I wanna do caution. If you do it now, then buy into assets. You're gonna CGT Uh-huh. trigger again when you sell down to purchase the property. That's probably something I wanna forewarn you on, but, otherwise, Would would you suggest I was thinking I might not dip it all back in anyway. just be selective with how much you put in. Leave the others in cash and hold cash until Correct. Yeah. you're ready to pay. I I Yeah. yeah. I was thinking maybe, you know, whatever the money ends up coming across, so it's $2.50, potentially just 100 k into the market, leave 150 and just play well, not play. Just trade the Yeah. the 100 the 100 Hundreds. k for the next twelve months. And then that way, like you said, then it doesn't create that extra event where if I did yeah. If I chuck it all back in, then we're obviously not as bad, but if it has a good gain, then we're back to paying. Paying the spell down again. Yeah. But Yeah. if I keep yeah. If I keep what? A 150 or 5, and then In it's sort case of, you know, 20 percent you could for a deposit or something. not in an SMSF. An SMSF isn't like, it is 20%, but it I mean, it all just depends. You also have to keep which you will have cash, like yeah. No. That would work, actually. No. Sorry. I'm sorry. Thinking out loud. That would work because Yes. Absolutely. you you have you have you have cash in the account. You have to keep generally, like, cash available, which the stock Yes. is considered a liquid liquid asset, so that's fine. Yeah. So no. Yeah. That would that would work. You don't have to keep it in cash. You could always term deposit Oh, yeah. Yep. the 100 and Good 50 to just depending on the rates and what's available. Yep. You could just, yeah, term deposit it. So Same. that way, you have it doing a thing. Just, obviously, cautionary tale. Be careful on how long you term deposit it and making sure that cash is available when you wanna buy. So he's coming out loud and loud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.","start_word":3543,"end_word":3951,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05580316356458408},{"text":"But, no, otherwise, that that's perfectly perfectly sound Yeah.","start_word":3952,"end_word":3960,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.36018168926239014},{"text":"in terms of a method.","start_word":3961,"end_word":3965,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1754351705312729},{"text":"Absolutely.","start_word":3966,"end_word":3966,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4831003546714782},{"text":"Yeah. Okay.","start_word":3967,"end_word":3968,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.3095420002937317},{"text":"Yeah. Cool. Alright. Just Sounds make like sure you a plan.","start_word":3969,"end_word":3979,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4108271300792694},{"text":"definitely keep yes. Definitely keep what you need available to do the property purchase. So have a Yeah. chat to your SMSF Yep. guy or your property guy or whoever it is that's helping you with Yeah. that property structure, Yep. and just make sure that you've noted out what you would need based on your purchase price for the property because SMSF Yep. structures are different with property purchases to Yeah. what it is, That's like right. a personal. Yeah. We gotta have a better trust and that's what's up. So Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's it. Yeah. But, yeah, that's that's sort of my trial of thought anyway. So then at least if we do have to sell down a little bit more of the shares, then I guess if it is another CGT event, it might not be, you know, based on a percentage, it's probably not overall that bad in the scheme of things. No. And it's it's CGT within an SMSF that you don't have to pay it immediately, like, same as yep. Yeah. The Correct. the Yeah. like, the other reason you're gonna have to pay the CGT, like, with the Hub twenty four account is because you're rolling out. So Hub twenty four has Yep. to settle all all bills before before it closes. Yeah. With your SMSF, you can always carry over and figure out that Sure. it end the finance year, offset it, blah blah blah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yep. Accounting nonsense, as you know. Yes. Yes. I'm just about to do that process as we speak. So Yeah. Yeah. I think that's Yeah.","start_word":3980,"end_word":4254,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.02256091870367527},{"text":"that's Cool.","start_word":4255,"end_word":4256,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.47543540596961975},{"text":"everything I can kinda think of on that, like, option side. Yeah. No prob. So I will, yeah, I'll shoot you an email in the morning and just confirm what we've spoken about. And then, Yep.","start_word":4257,"end_word":4292,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.21137209236621857},{"text":"yeah, more more than happy for you to email Marg and myself out a a a compliance declaration, whatever you Yeah.","start_word":4293,"end_word":4313,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6132798194885254},{"text":"need to do to to get out. So your end is all clear. But, yeah, I'm not I'm not heading to the casino, unfortunately. So Look. You can, but, you know, that the the the man's gonna come after you eventually Yeah. asking I know. what Exactly. happened. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's crazy. Some people go, oh, I'm just you know, they get the tax debt, and they go, oh, can I just pull, like, you know, a 100,000 out of my super? How much you got in there? Oh, 150, 200? Well, no. You No. can't can't touch it. You can have 5%, but it's gotta be for a bloody good reason. Yep. So Yeah. We get the calls all the time. Trust me. So yeah. Yep. I bet Yeah. you do. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. Do you guys do you guys deal with those same things in in house? Yeah. Yeah. Well, so we we we deal with, you know, ATO Yeah. compassionate claims and and financial also the financial hardship claims and Yeah. withdrawals and yeah. Absolutely. All the time. Yeah. All the time stands Yep. up. TPD is my favorite. And then when a client, permanently Yep. incapacitated Yeah. and, Yeah. obviously, medication of relief that way and, you know, tax free up list and all the rest of the fun stuff. That's actually my wheelhouse. It's what I've done for sort of Yeah. five Oh, years. is it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Insurance claims Yep. and CPD specific. Oh, good.","start_word":4314,"end_word":4569,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0037584740202873945},{"text":"Good. Good. Good talking about this.","start_word":4570,"end_word":4575,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.40560463070869446},{"text":"Oh, yeah? Sorry. What No. what You're are okay. we doing with our sorry. How do we carry over our insurances across into the self managed super fund? How does that work? So the your so your insurance Yep. policy is BT, which is TAL. So it's just a change of ownership. It's it's Ah, okay. I I would like to say nice and easy.","start_word":4576,"end_word":4640,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.02608814142071284},{"text":"It's a pain Ah, in the absolute barrier of a document, there it is.","start_word":4641,"end_word":4654,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3418906629085541},{"text":"but we we we'll we'll handle that for you. And by we, I mean, Caden. No. I I have someone that that deals with all of those documents and and helps me out with them.","start_word":4655,"end_word":4689,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06311536580324173},{"text":"They are they are an absolute headache No.","start_word":4690,"end_word":4697,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5176586508750916},{"text":"to deal I think with. I have to Yeah. check. Yep. But, yeah, we'll we we get the documents. We'll we'll fill them all out and everything. When you do email me tomorrow, I will need all of your SMSF details so I can get Yep. the cash rolled over. So it'll have to be, like, account numbers, your ESA, Yep. everything. Yep. Yep. Craft date, you did all that stuff as well? Please. Yes. Yep. Okay. Because I wanna make it as smooth as possible. Yeah. And I Yeah. wanna I've double added check your bank account is it. definitely registered Yep. Yes. correctly. It is. Okay. It is. Because I had to Cool. open a stake account, and it took a couple of days to clear. And then Sean said that when I originally did, he goes, it'll take x amount of time. He said then it'll actually take x amount of time for it to register with different places so that it Yeah. comes up when you bring it up in your systems. So Yes. Yeah. And that's And that's all active now.","start_word":4698,"end_word":4883,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03823068737983704},{"text":"So Cool.","start_word":4884,"end_word":4885,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3823067545890808},{"text":"If Sean's able to or you, it's actually a lot quicker for you to request the roll in from Hub twenty four over to your SMSF than it is for me to send the money. Oh, okay. So what once it's sold down, then do I just request it? Or We we can you could basically request it today, tonight, to whenever, and then I get a notification. I sell it down anyway. yep. But I wouldn't sell it down till you gave me authority as to how I'm selling it down. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, it's it's a lot quicker of a process because, otherwise, the Hub twenty four has to basically send the thing because it's an SMSF fund. When the SMSF requests it, it Yes. I hits the ATO. The ATO does a verification, and then it comes through to Hub versus when it goes the other way because it's trying to connect to an SMSF fund, which is outside of, you know, its little network. It's Not what it is.","start_word":4886,"end_word":5059,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06165291268335677},{"text":"It's just an absolute pain.","start_word":5060,"end_word":5064,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.6742902994155884},{"text":"It just it noticed doesn't it came up in the in the portal state in the portal the other day. So yeah. which It was yeah. the It will. Yeah. It just it they don't translate as well. It's just so much easier for the SMSF to pull the money and for a fund to push it. right. Okay. Well, we just just we do have the form that I that I need to send with that, or do I do So once I have I set to it log up, in to her? does does Sean have access to request? To oh, I'm not sure. I have Sean's email as a email from an email you Fire. forwarded to me, so I'll reach Yep. out to him, Oh, and I'll check. they did. Okay. Perfect. That's okay. Because I'll be able to communicate and figure out where he's at and what he has access to and what he doesn't have access to and how it all works. I think he should because I've given him the Macquarie Bank details and all that sort of stuff. So he's probably Yeah. aware of what's going on. But, yeah, that that'd be great if you could. Yeah. That'd Because it's be just it's just a SuperStream request. So, yeah, I'll touch base with him, and we'll go from there. okay.","start_word":5065,"end_word":5292,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.019787844147925313},{"text":"Perfect. Amazing. Alright.","start_word":5293,"end_word":5295,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6030028462409973},{"text":"Okay. Well, Alright. I will get cracking. And when I hear from you, I'll hear from you, and we'll go from there. Alright.","start_word":5296,"end_word":5318,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0653136670589447},{"text":"Perfect. Thank you for your time.","start_word":5319,"end_word":5324,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6610046625137329},{"text":"Thanks for the mucking around to start there. No. Absolutely So fine. I Eventually. get how long meetings can go for sometimes. I hope we'll chat later. Yeah. No problem.","start_word":5325,"end_word":5354,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06541124731302261},{"text":"Cheers. Thanks.","start_word":5355,"end_word":5356,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5589994788169861},{"text":"Bye. Bye, Glenn. Bye.","start_word":5357,"end_word":5360,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22755424678325653}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.004727091819366813}}}}