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It has slowed down slightly with the smaller development, but I guess that's probably too we expected what's been happening around the world. So yeah. How are you? Yeah. Yes. It may very well be that you're at the top of the catchment, and so they've got a flow right next to your site, and that's where they've picked it from. So that that might be that might explain why it's it's flood prone. I I honestly, I I haven't had time to go into the exact what what's happening from the lidar perspective. I don't I haven't purchased any lidar or anything like that, but I guess that that's something, you know, if if they've sometimes council can just can put flows in at strange places, and it might explain why there's impact. So it's not like it's definitely not possible to challenge, I guess, if if there's enough evidence. But I guess my my fear is that typically challenging council were on evidence, on on reducing flood levels hasn't I've only been able to manage it once. And typically, the flood level remains fairly consistent. It might be slightly less, but realistically, it's not like it's not what you need, which is almost 300 less. Well, you could, but the the problem with that is if you did propose it because it's a residential neighborhood, you'd be making someone worse off. And if you and you can't make anyone worse off. So that's that's that's like, if you're in the middle of nowhere, then, yeah, you could absolutely do things around it. But being in a residential zone, it means that anything that you propose is gonna is gonna impact someone. But it it depends. It may not be significantly impacting someone. And if it's not, then, you know, that's great. However, if it is significantly impacting someone, then which my expectation is based on where it is, it probably will whatever the sorry, funds being proposed will probably impact someone. They won't sorry. Council won't accept it. So it's it's there might be I don't know, there might be it's just my my talk should go wrong. Sorry. There might be opportunity to reduce the level by rerunning it, but my expectation is that it's probably not gonna be it's probably not gonna be enough to reduce it the amount it it needs to be reduced. That's what I would suggest. I mean, look, you know, we can do flood modeling and and demonstrate it, but I I just feel like we'll be that it'll be, you know, $8 per an assessment, and they'll be in the exact same position. Do you know what I mean? Like, it it just I I feel uncomfortable taking the work knowing that it's most likely not gonna make a difference based on what I've what I can see. Look, they they they might if council if you ask council to give you a, like, a map of where the flood extent is, because they haven't seemed to provide that, then ask for that and send it through to me, and maybe I can say, oh, look. It looks like you are at the top of the catchment. Maybe we can argue. But without an extent as well, I'm not really sure where they've picked the flood level up, and there's no there's no, sorry, overlay. So it's it's it's imposs it's really difficult for me to understand exactly where they've got, sorry, where where they're proposing the water is coming from. Yep. Yep. Yep. How are you meant to pick it up? It's a good question. It's a good question and one that I I can't guarantee any either way because the problem is if you get if you've submitted once, like, for advice and the planner you've submitted to is Chloe and has said, I'll look I better check with every part of the of council, then you'd be fine. Then they'll tell you upfront. But most of the time, what happens is you you submit preliminary advice. You'd get advice from the planners. The planners won't reach out to the rest of them because they don't see the overlay. But then when it gets submitted via section 52, 55, whatever it is, then they and then it goes to every department regardless of whether or not there's a sorry, a overlay, and that's when you get this problem. I've had I've told clients in the past, they're just like, can you when I submit, can you send it to everyone for the preliminary advice, including flood, just just to tick the boxes? Because I think that's the only way I I have been able to see how to avoid it. Essentially. I know that that also sounds a bit ridiculous, but, yeah, their their system because all of these over sorry. These new flood studies are coming in in the next, you know, well, from basically from now on for the next few years. It means that they won't have the planning infrastructure there yet to manage it. And so this is the way they can this is the only way they're managing at the moment. Yes. Yes. And and it's it's really caught out some people. It really does. And it it's it's affected quite a lot of people quite quite significantly. But I I I haven't been able to challenge enough to get them to change what they've got, what level they've got. But again, if you ask for them to say if you say, look, can we just have the extent so that we can see where the flooding is? That would be good because then maybe I can give you a little bit more feedback and be like, okay. Look. It's this corner. Realistically, does that actually make is that is there actual risk? But, yeah, it like, you know, if it's if it's over just a small bit, then, yeah, maybe we can argue with just a letter. But if it's over the whole property, then obviously we're in a bit of trouble. So maybe that would be the best course now reflecting on that email. I think maybe ask them if they can provide a map with the extent. Yeah. Let's start with that. Okay. No. No worries at all. No worries at all. I'll speak to you soon. Cheers. 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But I guess my my fear is that typically challenging council were on evidence, on on reducing flood levels hasn't I've only been able to manage it once. And typically, the flood level remains fairly consistent.\n\nIt might be slightly less, but realistically, it's not like it's not what you need, which is almost 300 less. Well, you could, but the the problem with that is if you did propose it because it's a residential neighborhood, you'd be making someone worse off. And if you and you can't make anyone worse off. So that's that's that's like, if you're in the middle of nowhere, then, yeah, you could absolutely do things around it. But being in a residential zone, it means that anything that you propose is gonna is gonna impact someone.\n\nBut it it depends. It may not be significantly impacting someone. And if it's not, then, you know, that's great. However, if it is significantly impacting someone, then which my expectation is based on where it is, it probably will whatever the sorry, funds being proposed will probably impact someone. They won't sorry.\n\nCouncil won't accept it. So it's it's there might be I don't know, there might be it's just my my talk should go wrong. Sorry. There might be opportunity to reduce the level by rerunning it, but my expectation is that it's probably not gonna be it's probably not gonna be enough to reduce it the amount it it needs to be reduced. That's what I would suggest.\n\nI mean, look, you know, we can do flood modeling and and demonstrate it, but I I just feel like we'll be that it'll be, you know, $8 per an assessment, and they'll be in the exact same position. Do you know what I mean? Like, it it just I I feel uncomfortable taking the work knowing that it's most likely not gonna make a difference based on what I've what I can see. Look, they they they might if council if you ask council to give you a, like, a map of where the flood extent is, because they haven't seemed to provide that, then ask for that and send it through to me, and maybe I can say, oh, look. It looks like you are at the top of the catchment.\n\nMaybe we can argue. But without an extent as well, I'm not really sure where they've picked the flood level up, and there's no there's no, sorry, overlay. So it's it's it's imposs it's really difficult for me to understand exactly where they've got, sorry, where where they're proposing the water is coming from. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. How are you meant to pick it up? It's a good question. It's a good question and one that I I can't guarantee any either way because the problem is if you get if you've submitted once, like, for advice and the planner you've submitted to is Chloe and has said, I'll look I better check with every part of the of council, then you'd be fine. Then they'll tell you upfront.\n\nBut most of the time, what happens is you you submit preliminary advice. You'd get advice from the planners. The planners won't reach out to the rest of them because they don't see the overlay. But then when it gets submitted via section 52, 55, whatever it is, then they and then it goes to every department regardless of whether or not there's a sorry, a overlay, and that's when you get this problem. I've had I've told clients in the past, they're just like, can you when I submit, can you send it to everyone for the preliminary advice, including flood, just just to tick the boxes?\n\nBecause I think that's the only way I I have been able to see how to avoid it. Essentially. I know that that also sounds a bit ridiculous, but, yeah, their their system because all of these over sorry. These new flood studies are coming in in the next, you know, well, from basically from now on for the next few years. 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Good, Alex. How are you doing? It has been a while. Have you been busy? Yep. Yep. Oh, but but the same. Yeah. Slowed down a little bit. Just navigating this weird and wonderful world, which brings me to the purpose of my call. So I'm just I always seen a response to Riza about Casey Drive. How how is it possible that's even in a flood zone? Like, we're on sort of, like, the top of the hill. Like, how does how does that work? Yes. And, like, there's there's not any, like, mitigation measures, like, where we can divert the flows, like, other ways or, like, bonds or Right. Right. Right. So is the is basically the only option then just to raise the four level? Is that basically the Right. Yes. Okay. And how are we like, this is the second time I've been caught out on this stuff at the very end of a project. Because, like, you know, I'm just just seeing SBOs. And if you have an SBO, yep, we all know what to do. Trigger this, trigger that, you know, get the you know? Yeah. Right. 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How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Good, Alex. How are you doing?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Good. Thank you. Been a while.\n\nChannel 1: It has been a while. Have you been busy?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. It has slowed down slightly with the smaller development, but I guess that's probably too we expected what's been happening around the world. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: How are you?\n\nChannel 1: Oh, but but the same. Yeah. Slowed down a little\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: bit. Just navigating this weird and wonderful world, which brings me to the purpose of my call. So I'm just I always seen a response to Riza about Casey Drive.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: How how is it possible that's even in a flood zone? Like, we're on sort of, like, the top of the hill. 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But most of the time, what happens is you you submit preliminary advice. You'd get advice from the planners.\n\nThe planners won't reach out to the rest of them because they don't see the overlay. But then when it gets submitted via section 52, 55, whatever it is, then they and then it goes to every department regardless of whether or not there's a sorry, a overlay, and that's when you get this problem. I've had I've told clients in the past, they're just like, can you when I submit, can you send it to everyone for the preliminary advice, including flood, just just to tick the boxes? Because I think that's the only way I I have been able to see how to avoid it.\n\nChannel 1: Right. So you could go to council and say I want you to to check every site to see if there's a flood overlay.\n\nChannel 0: Essentially. 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I I really\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: appreciate\n\nChannel 0: No worries\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: at all.\n\nChannel 1: No\n\nChannel 0: No\n\nChannel 1: problem.\n\nChannel 0: worries at all. I'll speak\n\nChannel 1: Take\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: care.\n\nChannel 0: you soon.\n\nChannel 1: Bye.\n\nChannel 0: Cheers. 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They hesitate to raise flood levels by re-ranging them, but suggest reducing flood levels by reducing the area and providing flood overlay information. The speaker suggests asking council for a map of the extent to see if there is a flood overlay and how to manage the situation, and suggests asking council for a map of the extent to see if there is a flood overlay and how to manage the situation."},"intents":{"segments":[{"text":"How how is it possible that's even in a flood zone? Like, we're on sort of, like, the top of the hill. Like, how does how does that work?","start_word":103,"end_word":131,"intents":[{"intent":"Check flood situation","confidence_score":0.0006990744}]},{"text":"I mean, look, you know, we can do flood modeling and and demonstrate it, but I I just feel like we'll be that it'll be, you know, $8 per an assessment, and they'll be in the exact same position. 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But without an extent as well, I'm not really sure where they've picked the flood level up, and there's no there's no, sorry, overlay.","start_word":627,"end_word":715,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.09093810023551575},{"text":"So it's it's it's imposs it's really difficult for me to understand exactly where they've got, sorry, where where they're proposing the water is coming from.","start_word":716,"end_word":741,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3839451372623443},{"text":"And how are we like, this is the second time I've been caught out on this stuff at the very end of a project. Because, like, you Yep. know, I'm just just seeing SBOs. And if you have an SBO, yep, we all know what to do. Trigger this, Yep. trigger that, you know, get the you Yep. know? How are you meant to pick it up? Yeah. It's a good question. It's a good question and one that I I can't guarantee any either way because the problem is if you get if you've submitted once, like, for advice and the planner you've submitted to is Chloe and has said, I'll look I better check with every part of the of council, then you'd be fine. Then they'll tell you upfront. But most of the time, what happens is you you submit preliminary advice. You'd get advice from the planners. The planners won't reach out to the rest of them because they don't see the overlay. But then when it gets submitted via section 52, 55, whatever it is, then they and then it goes to every department regardless of whether or not there's a sorry, a overlay, and that's when you get this problem. I've had I've told clients in the past, they're just like, can you when I submit, can you send it to everyone for the preliminary advice, including flood, just just to tick the boxes? Because I think that's the only way I I have been able to see how to avoid it. Right. So you could go to council and say I want you to to check every site to see if there's a flood overlay. Essentially. I know that that also sounds a bit ridiculous, It this sounds crazy. but, I can just, yeah, like their their system because all of these over sorry. These new flood studies are coming in in the next, you know, well, from basically from now on for the next few years. It means that they won't have the planning infrastructure there yet to manage it. And so this is the way they can this is the only way they're managing at the moment. It's reactive. Yes. Yes. And and it's it's really caught out some people. It really does. And it it's it's affected quite a lot of people quite quite significantly. But I I I haven't been able to challenge enough to get them to change what they've got, what level they've got. But again, if you ask for them to say if you say, look, can we just have the extent so that we can see where the flooding is? That would be good because then maybe I can give you a little bit more feedback and be like, Yes. okay. Look. It's this corner. Realistically, does that actually make is that is there actual risk? But, yeah, it like, you know, if it's if it's over just a small bit, then, yeah, maybe we can argue with just a letter.","start_word":742,"end_word":1247,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.0817095555158943},{"text":"But if it's over the whole property, then obviously we're in a bit of trouble.","start_word":1248,"end_word":1262,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3659548759460449},{"text":"Right. So maybe that would be the best course now reflecting on that email. I think maybe ask them if they can provide a map with the extent. Right. Okay. I'll I'll try that and see how I Yeah. go. Let's start with that. Okay. Okay.","start_word":1263,"end_word":1308,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08823825548524442},{"text":"Awesome. 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