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Basically, we we've done all the raw and two flow modeling, and it's just the current design has just not worked. And so we thought if we went out on-site, try to figure out what would work, it would it would help us. Because, essentially, what's happening is you don't have heaps of grade, first of all, to create a big enough basin to capture the water that's coming through the swales. And so we have come up with two really well, one idea that's concrete, the other one that's not so that that we can test. But the first one is that instead of having so so sorry. The the the other I might just say everything, all the limitations first. So you got the stormwater capacity of the basin downstream is not big enough, and we we can't size it big enough to compensate for the swales because the water comes in through quickly. And the other thing that we're finding difficult is the raised level of the bench level, essentially, of the fill is taking out far too much of the flood storage and and Melbourne Water won't accept it? That's right. So we have come up with two ideas that we can test. The first idea is is grading the whole site from from east to west without the swales so you can build out oh, sorry. You can plant all the way up to each of the boundaries and just grade it so it it discharges naturally through the slope and then have a basin at the Northwest instead of the South Southwest. Is it that's the Northwest. That's right. Exactly. And so that that and it would be on the other side, which is actually the main discharge point for the site. So we'll be able to go back to Melbourne Water and say, look. This is the primary one. We've actually we're discharging to the primary point. So it would tick that box. It would also mean that we get rid of the swales, which are essentially causing too much water to come through. And, honestly, it would pretty much mean from a stormwater and a flood perspective, it's a no it's it's almost a no brainer. It kinda works. I mean but it does mean that you won't have a bench. Like, it's gonna be pretty flat. Okay. So that's that's the first one. The second and and what is yep. Yes. And, also, he's done some dodgy stuff on his on his property, like, really dodgy. He he's got he's got a levy essentially around his property, which you can't do. So I don't know how he got away with what he's done, but he's he's he's he's just as bad. He's he's he's yeah. He's just really bad. So I know. Yeah. Yeah. So I I think that that option is probably gonna work because I think it it means that, first of all, we won't just place a flood storage. And if anything, the flood storage would either just go on to the road or onto the the cemetery, which again isn't a problem because no one's building houses on the cemetery. So we're we're okay to that perspective. And it means that the only detention that we probably will need is water quality style detention just from, you know, a a pesticides being sprayed on the trees. So so I think that that's that's option one, which the one I I think is is always like a same dump from us, and I I can't see meltwater throwing up too many issues. Like, I mean, they can always find something, but I I think that's definitely arguable. The second one is keeping the swales, but changing the dis well, sorry. Having potentially two discharge points. So having a basin on the North sorry. Northwest, so on the opposite side is where it is currently proposed, and then having a whale that runs through the middle of sorry. Basically, cuts the site in half. So you know where there there's a fence there at the moment? No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Front to back. Yeah. So there's a fence in between the site where water naturally goes along it. If we just keep that as a swale and then put a, you know, a a culvert so that the water go so you can drive over it, That means we can get all the water through the first the the existing basin, so that can start as a detention system and a water quality system and then a final basin at the top, which would act as a stormwater system. So that's the other option that we've got, and that means you keep the swales all the way through, but it it it will require a bit more effort because you'll be building up on either side and then trying to get the and then would have to make the water go through. It it is possible, but I guess the the biggest thing that comes from this is the proposed location of the basin doesn't it it hasn't got enough level to to provide enough storage. And so regardless of what we're proposing, the basin needs to go from the essentially, from the South to the north. No. No. No. You can keep you can keep the retriding based on in option one as well. That's right. Exactly. So it it's pretty much the exact same proposal, but it's moving in option one sorry. In option one and two, it's still moving it to the north. So instead it's on the south, the proposed one, it'd be on the north. The existing would stay. In option one, we'd be grading the whole site, so using the whole site with no swales. In option two, the swale would have to cut through the whole site and then go along each boundary, and then we'd have to size a a probably a much larger basin. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. Perfect. We've had we've we've been having regular correspondence with them, and I haven't proposed these solutions to them yet because I wanted to make sure that the client was happy first. But I would probably say we if you're happy with the option one, then we'd bring it to the to Melbourne Water First, sit down with them and saying, this is what we're proposing, and then see what they say. Not not it's it's it's more how long it takes to get Mountain Water to sit down with us. That's probably the limitation. The the the modeling we've done is pretty much like, we're we're we're pretty much at a point where we need to get the design. We've tested all the design that we've got at the moment. Can't get a solution. So we're we're it's just now, like, the final little bit of iterative stuff, and and, realistically, it's the go ahead from you and and model of water. Exactly. Exactly. And the landscape the landscape plan would probably be pretty easy if we did option one because you're literally just grading from one end to the other. Option one would be less, Phil, for sure, than the than the option than the current option. The current design has we went outside and we did a a bit of a level calc. And, essentially, at the front of that property, it's raised by almost four hundred four hundred millimeters. And in option one, in the current proposal. That's right. Yeah. So it's it's almost 400 above whilst the our option would be at the level that it it exits the site. So you would be yes. You would have to still back back still a little bit, but it would be, you know, when well, you're not filling up in some areas, you'd be almost up past the meter or it can in the current design. So the current design is just too high. So much feel. It probably is. Yeah. Yeah. Great. And then we'll get on to Melbourne Water as soon as you they they've been super easy to get on to and and keen to work with us, so I imagine they'll get back to us pretty quick. Yeah. We'd have to grade the site and then check. But if it works, then you know? I mean, best case scenario, we could have it, but within that week. 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How are you going? Yeah. Good.\n\nThank you. Is this okay, Tom? Yep. Great. So we went on-site, and we look.\n\nBasically, we we've done all the raw and two flow modeling, and it's just the current design has just not worked. And so we thought if we went out on-site, try to figure out what would work, it would it would help us. Because, essentially, what's happening is you don't have heaps of grade, first of all, to create a big enough basin to capture the water that's coming through the swales. And so we have come up with two really well, one idea that's concrete, the other one that's not so that that we can test. But the first one is that instead of having so so sorry.\n\nThe the the other I might just say everything, all the limitations first. So you got the stormwater capacity of the basin downstream is not big enough, and we we can't size it big enough to compensate for the swales because the water comes in through quickly. And the other thing that we're finding difficult is the raised level of the bench level, essentially, of the fill is taking out far too much of the flood storage and and Melbourne Water won't accept it? That's right. So we have come up with two ideas that we can test.\n\nThe first idea is is grading the whole site from from east to west without the swales so you can build out oh, sorry. You can plant all the way up to each of the boundaries and just grade it so it it discharges naturally through the slope and then have a basin at the Northwest instead of the South Southwest. Is it that's the Northwest. That's right. Exactly.\n\nAnd so that that and it would be on the other side, which is actually the main discharge point for the site. So we'll be able to go back to Melbourne Water and say, look. This is the primary one. We've actually we're discharging to the primary point. So it would tick that box.\n\nIt would also mean that we get rid of the swales, which are essentially causing too much water to come through. And, honestly, it would pretty much mean from a stormwater and a flood perspective, it's a no it's it's almost a no brainer. It kinda works. I mean but it does mean that you won't have a bench. Like, it's gonna be pretty flat.\n\nOkay. So that's that's the first one. The second and and what is yep. Yes. And, also, he's done some dodgy stuff on his on his property, like, really dodgy.\n\nHe he's got he's got a levy essentially around his property, which you can't do. So I don't know how he got away with what he's done, but he's he's he's he's just as bad. He's he's he's yeah. He's just really bad. So I know.\n\nYeah. Yeah. So I I think that that option is probably gonna work because I think it it means that, first of all, we won't just place a flood storage. And if anything, the flood storage would either just go on to the road or onto the the cemetery, which again isn't a problem because no one's building houses on the cemetery. So we're we're okay to that perspective.\n\nAnd it means that the only detention that we probably will need is water quality style detention just from, you know, a a pesticides being sprayed on the trees. So so I think that that's that's option one, which the one I I think is is always like a same dump from us, and I I can't see meltwater throwing up too many issues. Like, I mean, they can always find something, but I I think that's definitely arguable. The second one is keeping the swales, but changing the dis well, sorry. Having potentially two discharge points.\n\nSo having a basin on the North sorry. Northwest, so on the opposite side is where it is currently proposed, and then having a whale that runs through the middle of sorry. Basically, cuts the site in half. So you know where there there's a fence there at the moment? No.\n\nNo. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Front to back.\n\nYeah. So there's a fence in between the site where water naturally goes along it. If we just keep that as a swale and then put a, you know, a a culvert so that the water go so you can drive over it, That means we can get all the water through the first the the existing basin, so that can start as a detention system and a water quality system and then a final basin at the top, which would act as a stormwater system. So that's the other option that we've got, and that means you keep the swales all the way through, but it it it will require a bit more effort because you'll be building up on either side and then trying to get the and then would have to make the water go through. It it is possible, but I guess the the biggest thing that comes from this is the proposed location of the basin doesn't it it hasn't got enough level to to provide enough storage.\n\nAnd so regardless of what we're proposing, the basin needs to go from the essentially, from the South to the north. No. No. No. You can keep you can keep the retriding based on in option one as well.\n\nThat's right. Exactly. So it it's pretty much the exact same proposal, but it's moving in option one sorry. In option one and two, it's still moving it to the north. So instead it's on the south, the proposed one, it'd be on the north.\n\nThe existing would stay. In option one, we'd be grading the whole site, so using the whole site with no swales. In option two, the swale would have to cut through the whole site and then go along each boundary, and then we'd have to size a a probably a much larger basin. Yep. Yep.\n\nAbsolutely. Absolutely. Perfect. We've had we've we've been having regular correspondence with them, and I haven't proposed these solutions to them yet because I wanted to make sure that the client was happy first. But I would probably say we if you're happy with the option one, then we'd bring it to the to Melbourne Water First, sit down with them and saying, this is what we're proposing, and then see what they say.\n\nNot not it's it's it's more how long it takes to get Mountain Water to sit down with us. That's probably the limitation. The the the modeling we've done is pretty much like, we're we're we're pretty much at a point where we need to get the design. We've tested all the design that we've got at the moment. Can't get a solution.\n\nSo we're we're it's just now, like, the final little bit of iterative stuff, and and, realistically, it's the go ahead from you and and model of water. Exactly. Exactly. 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I shouldn't have hung up on you before, should I? Good. Thanks. How are you? That's good. Yes. Perfect. Yes. Yes. Right. For the proposed level of fill? Right. Yep. Right. Yes. Right. Northwest. Okay. So at the front of the property on Fern closer to Fernside. Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's not a concern for us. The only concern I've got with that is the neighbor on the north boundary where the road trees are in the existing house there, he actually lives there, and he's been a pretty strong objector all the way through. In saying that, he didn't turn up to the VCAT hearing that I went to back in June or July. So I don't know if it's all got too hard for him and he's walked away from it, but I don't know if he'd accept that. But anyhow, I suppose Melbourne Water is a determining factor, aren't they? Oh, I don't I don't doubt it. Yes. Yes. Yep. Oh, yeah. But that's okay. That's that's affecting other people, not him. Yeah. That's fine. Okay. Okay. So that was ops yep. Sorry. Right. Right. Sorry. So half front to back, not down the middle. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yes. So even with option one, we'd have to remove or, yeah, demolish or whatever existing retarding basin that's there or damage there. Right. So we keep that and put an additional one in towards the front of the property. Right. Yes. Okay. Can you I need to talk to the owner about this and present something through him. Is there a way you could do some sort of summary for me that I I'm I'm leaning towards option one from what you've said already, and I think you are as well. So is there something we can put together that I can talk to him about next week or send to him and then talk to him about it next week, and if we need to have a discussion with yourself over the phone. And is if we led towards option one, can we get some sort of indication from Melbourne Water Price doing all the works, or we have to just run the risk of doing all the works and hoping that they're going to like it? Yes. Yes. Okay. 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I shouldn't have hung up on you before, should I? Good. Thanks. How are you?\n\nThat's good. Yes. Perfect. Yes. Yes.\n\nRight. For the proposed level of fill? Right. Yep. Right.\n\nYes. Right. Northwest. Okay. So at the front of the property on Fern closer to Fernside.\n\nRight. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay.\n\nThat's not a concern for us. The only concern I've got with that is the neighbor on the north boundary where the road trees are in the existing house there, he actually lives there, and he's been a pretty strong objector all the way through. In saying that, he didn't turn up to the VCAT hearing that I went to back in June or July. So I don't know if it's all got too hard for him and he's walked away from it, but I don't know if he'd accept that. But anyhow, I suppose Melbourne Water is a determining factor, aren't they?\n\nOh, I don't I don't doubt it. Yes. Yes. Yep. Oh, yeah.\n\nBut that's okay. That's that's affecting other people, not him. Yeah. That's fine. Okay.\n\nOkay. 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I shouldn't have hung up on you before, should I?\n\nChannel 0: No. Don't worry. How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: Good. Thanks. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Good. Thank you.\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: Is this okay, Tom?\n\nChannel 1: good. Yes. Perfect.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Great. So we went on-site, and we look. Basically, we we've done all the raw and two flow modeling, and it's just the current design has just not worked. And so we thought if we went out on-site, try to figure out what would work,\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: it would it would help us. Because, essentially, what's happening is you don't have heaps of grade, first of all, to create a big enough basin to capture the water that's coming through the swales.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: And so we have come up with two really well, one idea that's concrete, the other one that's not so that that we can test. But\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: the first one is that instead of having so so sorry. The the the other I might just say everything, all the limitations first. So you got the stormwater capacity of the basin downstream is not big enough, and we we can't size it big enough to compensate for the swales because the water comes in through quickly. And the other thing that we're finding difficult is the raised level of the bench level, essentially, of the fill is taking out far too much of the flood storage and and Melbourne Water won't accept it?\n\nChannel 1: For the proposed level of fill?\n\nChannel 0: That's right.\n\nChannel 1: Right. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So we have come up with two ideas that we can test. The\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: first idea is is grading the whole site\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: from from east to west without the swales so you can build out oh, sorry. You can plant all the way up to each of the boundaries and just\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: grade it so it it discharges naturally through the slope and then have a basin at the Northwest\n\nChannel 1: Northwest.\n\nChannel 0: instead of the South Southwest. Is it that's\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: the Northwest.\n\nChannel 1: So at the front of the property on Fern closer to Fernside.\n\nChannel 0: That's right. Exactly. And so that\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: that and it would be on the other side, which is actually the main discharge point for the site.\n\nChannel 1: Right. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: So we'll be able to go back to Melbourne Water and say, look. This is the primary one. We've actually we're discharging to the primary point. So it would tick that box. It would also mean that we get rid of the swales, which are essentially causing too much water to come through.\n\nAnd, honestly, it would pretty much mean from a stormwater and a flood perspective, it's a no it's it's almost a no brainer. It kinda works. I mean but it does mean that you won't have a bench. Like, it's gonna be pretty flat.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Okay. That's not a concern for us.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So that's that's the first one.\n\nChannel 1: The\n\nChannel 0: The\n\nChannel 1: only\n\nChannel 0: second\n\nChannel 1: concern\n\nChannel 0: and and what\n\nChannel 1: I've\n\nChannel 0: is\n\nChannel 1: got with that is the neighbor on the north boundary where the road trees are in the existing house there, he actually lives there, and he's been a pretty\n\nChannel 0: yep.\n\nChannel 1: strong objector all the way through. In saying that, he didn't turn up to the VCAT hearing that I went to back in June or July. So I don't know if it's all got too hard for him and he's walked away from it, but I don't know if he'd accept that. But anyhow, I suppose Melbourne Water is a determining factor, aren't they?\n\nChannel 0: Yes. And, also, he's done some dodgy stuff on his on his property, like, really\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: dodgy.\n\nChannel 1: I don't I don't doubt it. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: He he's got he's got a levy essentially around his property, which you can't do. So I don't know how he got away with what he's done, but he's\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: he's he's he's just as bad. He's he's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: he's yeah. He's just really bad.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, yeah. But that's okay. That's that's affecting other people, not him.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That's\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: fine.\n\nChannel 0: know. Yeah. Yeah. So I I think that that option is probably gonna work because I think it it means that, first of all, we won't just place a flood storage. And if anything, the flood storage would either just go on to the road or onto the the cemetery, which again isn't a problem because no one's building houses on the cemetery.\n\nSo we're we're okay to that perspective. And it means that the only detention that we probably will need is water quality style detention just from, you know, a a pesticides being sprayed on the trees.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: So that\n\nChannel 0: so\n\nChannel 1: was\n\nChannel 0: I think\n\nChannel 1: ops yep.\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: Sorry.\n\nChannel 0: that's that's option one,\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: which the one I I think is is always like a same dump from us, and I I can't see meltwater throwing up too many issues. Like, I mean, they can always find something, but I I think that's definitely arguable. The second one is keeping the swales, but changing the dis well, sorry. Having potentially two discharge points. So having a basin on the North sorry.\n\nNorthwest, so on the opposite side is where it is currently proposed,\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: and then having a whale that runs through the middle of sorry. Basically, cuts the site in half. So you know where there there's a fence there at the moment?\n\nChannel 1: Sorry. So half front to back, not down the middle.\n\nChannel 0: No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.\n\nFront to back. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: there's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: a fence in between the site where water naturally goes along it. If we\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: just keep that as a swale and then put a, you know, a a culvert so that the water go so you can drive over it, That means we can get all the water through the first the the existing basin, so that can start as a detention system and a water quality system and then a final basin at the top, which would act as a stormwater system. So that's the other option that we've got, and that means you keep the swales all the way through, but it it it will require a bit more effort because you'll be building up on either side and then trying to get the and then would have to make the water go through. It it is possible, but I guess the the biggest thing that comes from this is the proposed location of the basin doesn't it it hasn't got enough level to to provide enough storage. And so regardless of what we're proposing, the basin needs to go from the essentially, from the South to the north.\n\nChannel 1: So even with option one, we'd have to remove or, yeah, demolish or whatever existing retarding basin that's there or damage there.\n\nChannel 0: No. No. No. You can keep you can keep the retriding based on in option one as well.\n\nChannel 1: Right. So we keep that and put an additional one in towards the front of the property.\n\nChannel 0: That's right. Exactly. So it it's pretty much the exact same proposal, but it's moving in option one sorry. In option one and two, it's still moving it to the north. So instead it's on the south, the proposed one, it'd be on the north.\n\nThe existing would stay. In option one,\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: we'd be grading the whole site, so using the whole site with no swales. In option\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: two, the swale would have to cut through the whole site and then go along each boundary, and then we'd have to size a a probably a much larger basin.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Can you I need to talk to the owner about this and present something through him. Is there a way you could do some sort of summary for me that I I'm I'm leaning towards option one from what you've said already, and I think you\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: are as well. 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testing a new design, including grading the whole site and changing the design from east to west without the swells. They also discuss options for a flood storage system in Melbourne Water's property, including the use of swells and a culvert to prevent damage to existing basements. The process of obtaining a design and setting up work with the owner is discussed, and they plan to follow up with the owner and communicate soon."},"intents":{"segments":[{"text":"Because, essentially, what's happening is you don't have heaps of grade, first of all, to create a big enough basin to capture the water that's coming through the swales. Yes.","start_word":89,"end_word":118,"intents":[{"intent":"Improve drainage systems","confidence_score":0.00001059906}]},{"text":"It would also mean that we get rid of the swales, which are essentially causing too much water to come through.","start_word":406,"end_word":426,"intents":[{"intent":"Address water concerns","confidence_score":0.085684665}]},{"text":"So having a basin on the North sorry. Northwest, so on the opposite side is where it is currently proposed, Right.","start_word":852,"end_word":872,"intents":[{"intent":"Evaluate proposed options","confidence_score":0.0024186727}]},{"text":"So it it's pretty much the exact same proposal, but it's moving in option one sorry. In option one and two, it's still moving it to the north.","start_word":1179,"end_word":1206,"intents":[{"intent":"Update proposal","confidence_score":0.0029148168}]},{"text":"we'd be grading the whole site, so using the whole site with no swales. In option Yes.","start_word":1229,"end_word":1245,"intents":[{"intent":"Resolve grading and swales issues","confidence_score":0.0000013004199}]},{"text":"The the the modeling we've done is pretty much like, we're we're we're pretty much at a point where we need to get the design.","start_word":1534,"end_word":1558,"intents":[{"intent":"Discuss design process","confidence_score":0.0163188}]},{"text":"the owner on, I'll have a chat to him. We're sort of in your hands with this. We're not experts on this. And from what you said, option one sounds to make the most sense. If there's any yeah. As soon as you get that through, I'll have a chat to him, and we'll come back to you very quickly on it so we can keep it moving forward. Yeah.","start_word":1861,"end_word":1930,"intents":[{"intent":"Have a chat with the owner and progress with the plan.","confidence_score":3.528825e-9}]},{"text":"And from what you said, option one sounds to make the most sense. If there's any yeah.","start_word":1883,"end_word":1899,"intents":[{"intent":"Discuss option one and discuss options.","confidence_score":0.0000016509244}]},{"text":"And then just some sort of time frame on the Earthworks plan because the other consultants are asking me as well if I had an indication on that. 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How are you going?","start_word":0,"end_word":18,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06588823348283768},{"text":"Good. Thanks.","start_word":19,"end_word":20,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.48937249183654785},{"text":"How are you? Yeah.","start_word":21,"end_word":24,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2568371295928955},{"text":"Good. Thank you.","start_word":25,"end_word":27,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4596159160137177},{"text":"That's Is this okay, Tom? good. Yes.","start_word":28,"end_word":34,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2300514578819275},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":35,"end_word":35,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4428078532218933},{"text":"Yep.","start_word":36,"end_word":36,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2532980144023895},{"text":"Great.","start_word":37,"end_word":37,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3742246329784394},{"text":"So we went on-site, and we look. Basically, we we've done all the raw and two flow modeling, and it's just the current design has just not worked. And so we thought if we went out on-site, try to figure out what would work, Yes. it would it would help us. Because, essentially, what's happening is you don't have heaps of grade, first of all, to create a big enough basin to capture the water that's coming through the swales. Yes. And so we have come up with two really well, one idea that's concrete, the other one that's not so that that we can test. But Right. the first one is that instead of having so so sorry. The the the other I might just say everything, all the limitations first. So you got the stormwater capacity of the basin downstream is not big enough, and we we can't size it big enough to compensate for the swales because the water comes in through quickly. And the other thing that we're finding difficult is the raised level of the bench level, essentially, of the fill is taking out far too much of the flood storage and and Melbourne Water won't accept it? For the proposed level of fill? That's right. Right. Yep. So we have come up with two ideas that we can test. The Right. first idea is is grading the whole site Yes. from from east to west without the swales so you can build out oh, sorry. You can plant all the way up to each of the boundaries and just Right. grade it so it it discharges naturally through the slope and then have a basin at the Northwest Northwest. instead of the South Southwest. Is it that's Okay. the Northwest. So at the front of the property on Fern closer to Fernside. That's right. Exactly. And so that Right. that and it would be on the other side, which is actually the main discharge point for the site. Right. Okay. So we'll be able to go back to Melbourne Water and say, look. This is the primary one. We've actually we're discharging to the primary point. So it would tick that box. It would also mean that we get rid of the swales, which are essentially causing too much water to come through. And, honestly, it would pretty much mean from a stormwater and a flood perspective, it's a no it's it's almost a no brainer. It kinda works. I mean but it does mean that you won't have a bench. Like, it's gonna be pretty flat. Okay. Okay. That's not a concern for us. Okay. So that's that's the first one. The The only second concern and and what I've is got with that is the neighbor on the north boundary where the road trees are in the existing house there, he actually lives there, and he's been a pretty yep.","start_word":38,"end_word":525,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.025819078738587437},{"text":"strong objector all the way through.","start_word":526,"end_word":531,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.38747942447662354},{"text":"In saying that, he didn't turn up to the VCAT hearing that I went to back in June or July.","start_word":532,"end_word":551,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2713359296321869},{"text":"So I don't know if it's all got too hard for him and he's walked away from it, but I don't know if he'd accept that.","start_word":552,"end_word":577,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.40065428614616394},{"text":"But anyhow, I suppose Melbourne Water is a determining factor, aren't they? 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But that's okay.","start_word":659,"end_word":663,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.13977621495723724},{"text":"That's that's affecting other people, not him.","start_word":664,"end_word":670,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.37682440876960754},{"text":"So Yeah. That's I fine. know. Yeah. Yeah. So I I think that that option is probably gonna work because I think it it means that, first of all, we won't just place a flood storage. And if anything, the flood storage would either just go on to the road or onto the the cemetery, which again isn't a problem because no one's building houses on the cemetery. So we're we're okay to that perspective. And it means that the only detention that we probably will need is water quality style detention just from, you know, a a pesticides being sprayed on the trees. Okay. Okay. So So that so was I think ops yep. that Sorry. that's that's option one, Right. which the one I I think is is always like a same dump from us, and I I can't see meltwater throwing up too many issues. Like, I mean, they can always find something, but I I think that's definitely arguable. The second one is keeping the swales, but changing the dis well, sorry. Having potentially two discharge points. So having a basin on the North sorry. Northwest, so on the opposite side is where it is currently proposed, Right. and then having a whale that runs through the middle of sorry. Basically, cuts the site in half. So you know where there there's a fence there at the moment? Sorry. So half front to back, not down the middle. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Front to back. Yeah. Yep. So Yep. there's Yep. a fence in between the site where water naturally goes along it. If we Yes. just keep that as a swale and then put a, you know, a a culvert so that the water go so you can drive over it, That means we can get all the water through the first the the existing basin, so that can start as a detention system and a water quality system and then a final basin at the top, which would act as a stormwater system. So that's the other option that we've got, and that means you keep the swales all the way through, but it it it will require a bit more effort because you'll be building up on either side and then trying to get the and then would have to make the water go through. It it is possible, but I guess the the biggest thing that comes from this is the proposed location of the basin doesn't it it hasn't got enough level to to provide enough storage. And so regardless of what we're proposing, the basin needs to go from the essentially, from the South to the north. So even with option one, we'd have to remove or, yeah, demolish or whatever existing retarding basin that's there or damage there. No. No. No. You can keep you can keep the retriding based on in option one as well. Right. So we keep that and put an additional one in towards the front of the property. That's right. Exactly. So it it's pretty much the exact same proposal, but it's moving in option one sorry. In option one and two, it's still moving it to the north. So instead it's on the south, the proposed one, it'd be on the north. The existing would stay. In option one, Right. we'd be grading the whole site, so using the whole site with no swales. In option Yes. two, the swale would have to cut through the whole site and then go along each boundary, and then we'd have to size a a probably a much larger basin. Okay. Can you I need to talk to the owner about this and present something through him. Is there a way you could do some sort of summary for me that I I'm I'm leaning towards option one from what you've said already, and I think you Yep. are as well. So is Yep. there something we can put together that I can talk to him about next week Absolutely. or send to him and then talk to him about it next week, and if we need to have a discussion with yourself over the phone.","start_word":671,"end_word":1371,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.010516131573094962},{"text":"Absolutely. And Perfect.","start_word":1372,"end_word":1374,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4754255414009094},{"text":"is if we led towards option one, can we get some sort of indication from Melbourne Water Price doing all the works, or we have to just run the risk of doing all the works and hoping that they're going to like it? We've had we've we've been having regular correspondence with them, Yes. and I haven't proposed these solutions to them yet because I wanted to make sure that the client was happy first. But I would probably say we if you're happy with the option one, then we'd Yes. bring it to the to Melbourne Water First, sit down with them and saying, this is what we're proposing, and then Okay. see what they say. Okay. And how quick could that happen being that we're on time constraints for the November 20? Not not it's it's it's more how long it takes to get Mountain Water to sit down with us. That's Yes. probably the limitation. The the the modeling we've done is pretty much like, we're we're we're pretty much at a point where we need to get the design. We've tested all the design that we've got at the moment. Can't get a solution. So we're we're it's just now, like, the final little bit of iterative stuff, and and, realistically, it's the go ahead from you and and model of water. And we also from a in the background, we need the weed management plan and the landscape plan done, which all hinges on the Earthworks plan from yourself as well. So Exactly. that Exactly. yeah. And the landscape the landscape plan would probably be pretty easy if we did option one because you're literally just grading from one end to the other. Quantity of fill, are you seeing a great difference in the option one? Option one would be less, Phil, for sure, Okay. than the than the option than the current option. The current design has we went outside and we did a a bit of a level calc. And, essentially, at the front of that property, it's raised by almost four hundred four hundred millimeters. In the current And in proposal? option one, in the current Sorry. proposal. That's right. Yeah. Yes. So it's it's Yep. almost 400 above whilst the our option would be at the level that it it exits the site. So you would be yes. You would have to still back back still a little bit, but it would be, you know, when well, you're not filling up in some areas, you'd be almost up past the meter or it can in the current design.","start_word":1375,"end_word":1811,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.013161863707718857},{"text":"So the current design is just too high.","start_word":1812,"end_word":1819,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5835733413696289},{"text":"So much feel. Yeah. I thought it was between 600 and a meter over the site, but, no, that's fine. If you could put some sort of summary It probably together is. for me Yep. That I can talk to Yeah. the owner on, I'll have a chat to him. We're sort of in your hands with this. We're not experts on this. And from what you said, option one sounds to make the most sense. If there's any yeah. As soon as you get that through, I'll have a chat to him, and we'll come back to you very quickly on it so we can keep it moving forward. Yeah.","start_word":1820,"end_word":1930,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.051048691141175793},{"text":"Great. And then we'll get on to Melbourne Water as soon as you they they've been super easy to get on to and and keen to work with us, so I imagine they'll get back to us pretty quick. Excellent.","start_word":1931,"end_word":1970,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5040547847747803},{"text":"And then just some sort of time frame on the Earthworks plan because the other consultants are asking me as well if I had an indication on that. So for example, if we Yeah. said to you Monday, Tuesday, yes, let's proceed with option one, when would we have something that we can give to them so they can start their works? We'd have to grade the site and then check. But if it works, then you know? I mean, best case scenario, we could have it, but within that week. Okay. No. That's fine. That's fine. Yep. But but if if it does require a so so we still need to, obviously, we we're still figuring out how we can manage the flood storage, and that Yes. might take a few iterations. But, again, you know, we're not we're not talking three, four weeks. We're talking, like, one or two. Excellent. No. That sounds good. Okay. Yeah. Alright. I'll wait for your Brilliant. email, Alex. I'll talk to the owner, Yep. and I'll come Done. back to you quickly on it.","start_word":1971,"end_word":2152,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08073461055755615},{"text":"Perfect. Thanks, Travis. Excellent. Thank you. Appreciate the feedback, and Yep. thanks, Madeline, as Thanks. well. No worries. Thank you. I will do. Thank you. 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