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Mhmm. Yes. Yeah. No. Thank you very much. It's it's sad, but the matriarch of our big Italian extended family, Nona, she has yeah. The one that held us all together, she has yeah. It's look. It's a long time coming. She's this. She is a very strong and wise and powerful woman that went through a lot through her life, and she was just too stubborn today. She went through, like, three strokes in her time, and she's yeah, and just carried on kicking. She goes, they never take me. So so yeah. Yeah. Correct. She was in the whole Yugoslavia kind of debacle with Trieste and all that. So, yeah, she's been through a lot. But now I'm sure she is at peace. Yep. I'm sure she will. She will probably become a poltergeist knowing her and just mess with her. Absolutely. Yeah. There you go. Yep. Oh, is this insider trading? Surely. Is this insider trading? You're gonna make a announcement that's gonna affect the the price of of the managed funds? Okay. Okay. Perfect. Mhmm. Mhmm. Wow. Wow. Big news. Big news. Yeah. It's still the same. Correct. Yeah. I'm sure because of that commercial travel group thing that that old debacle, I'm sure they would have shaved a few numbers of the sale price. Yeah. Corporate travel. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. It would've been a it wouldn't have been a small number. Correct. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. So the all have been long all have been long gone. Is it gonna transition into a new kind of managed fund name under the new entity? Or Gotcha. Yep. Antipodes. Is it an Antipodes? Antipodes? The it Ah, there you go. I always thought of the other one. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Correct. Yep. Yeah. They listed. They've got they've got something like midi midi or mid mid mid something like that on the ASX. You can invest into their investment scheme. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. I think it's m I d s. It's an active, I believe, and I might be wrong here, but I looked into that. Correct. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. And the reason you know, it's crazy. It's the reason why we're looking into it is because we started, you know, 60% hedging all of our assets with the need back right back this May because of the currency because of foreign exchange. So, yeah, trying to find that global kinda hedged market. That's what a lot at least that's what we're looking for at the moment. So Oh. Well, does that mean that you are going to stay are you gonna say sorry to interrupt, but does that mean that you're gonna stay with Benelung under antipodes or antipodes? And yep. And then you're still gonna beat him. So you're gonna be able to beat him for all of it. Oh. Mhmm. Yep. Amazing. Very clever. Are you excited? Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. You would have been you would have been working very hard to try and convince people to with the performance of our I'd doff my hat too. Yeah. We have. Yeah. Correct. CTD. Yep. So what does that mean for the better long price? Two dollars 30 2¢. Yep. Looking at it now. Yeah. Gotcha. Still doesn't change. Yeah. I'm looking at so the the I still don't so on this first day back, the stock experienced a steep decline falling up to 80 to 85% on this pre suspension price of $16.07. So she's still down quite a bit. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Yep. Yep. Yep. Never thought they'll be trading again. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. See, EFI needs to go to jail. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Mhmm. Yep. And they would have just absolutely fine tooth combed it. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's probably the best. Wow. That's insane. Wow. Wow. K. I'm a pirate. Yep. Send it through. Yeah. If you can, that'd be amazing. Thank you. Oh, CEO is CEO is Anna Pedersen. Okay. So females. I love female CEOs. I think they I think females should run the world, to be honest. Yep. I think females feel like politicians. Yep. Presidents, stuff like that. And, so, yes, I think they make way better CEOs because they got their more a higher level of empathy and care. Oh, no. I wouldn't go that far. I I gave you that much. Don't push the boundaries around. Yeah. No. I put yeah. No. Absolutely. I'm sorry? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. When it comes to leading. Yep. Absolutely. Alright. So what do we do from here? You've got my email. You know where to send it? Thank you, Paul. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I don't need the fluff. I don't need none of that fluff. Just flick it through the information. I'll be happy. Thank you for your time in reaching out. Absolutely. Will do. Thanks. See you. Bye. Thanks. 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Shody. Very well. Thank you. Long time no speak.\n\nHow you been? That's good. How can I help? What can I do for you? What's going on in the world of Ben and Long?\n\nMhmm. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yes. Yeah.\n\nNo. Thank you very much. It's it's sad, but the matriarch of our big Italian extended family, Nona, she has yeah. The one that held us all together, she has yeah. It's look.\n\nIt's a long time coming. She's this. She is a very strong and wise and powerful woman that went through a lot through her life, and she was just too stubborn today. She went through, like, three strokes in her time, and she's yeah, and just carried on kicking. She goes, they never take me.\n\nSo so yeah. Yeah. Correct. She was in the whole Yugoslavia kind of debacle with Trieste and all that. So, yeah, she's been through a lot.\n\nBut now I'm sure she is at peace. Yep. I'm sure she will. She will probably become a poltergeist knowing her and just mess with her. Absolutely.\n\nYeah. There you go. Yep. 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How are you? Yes. Very good. Thank you. Very good. Yes. Oh, what's going on in the world of Bannalong? And before I tell you the the the good news, I would also like to offer my condolences for last week. I know you said that you had a passing in the family, so never easy. Oh. Oh. Yes. Yes. Oh my goodness. Yeah. They they they they built them strong back in the day. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yes. So that's nice. Hopefully, she will be resting in peace and watching over you all. So, yep. They they do the nonnas have their they do have their reputation, don't they? So I know we've got my sister's married to well, of course, you know, George, the Italian side there, and I was just having dinner with Nona last night, actually. So they they do glue the entire family together. So but so look, Shadi, I just wanted to give you the quick heads up. It's it's it's very positive news, and we're going to make a public announcement probably around 11:30 to midday. So if you could yeah. What was that? Sorry? That no. No. Unfortunately, it won't be moving a dial. But in having said that, if you could, we'll just ask for discretion until about that time around 11:30 midday, but I wanted you to hear it from me because you're a, you know, a very good client of mine. So Bangara Group is Bennelong Fund Management parent company. We last night signed agreements for Antipodes Partners to take full ownership of Bennelong Fund Management. So yes. So they've we've sold our entire platform, which includes all of the boutiques, so they all go across. It is very big news. And but from, you know, in terms of operations and everything going forward, there is absolutely yeah. There is no change. So Bennelong Funds Management will remain the RE for all of the boutiques. You know, everything will continue as per new normal. There is no change to, obviously, the teams because they are all independent businesses in their own right. So investment philosophy pro everything remains the same, unchanged. Effectively, we just come across and we sit now as a part of the Antipodes partner's platform. There will be a transition period over the course of the next, you know, two to three months, I would say, where we look at, you know, plugging in back office systems and all of those sorts of things. But they will corporate travel? Yeah. Yeah. Corporate travel. I'm not sure. That's something I'm actually not privy to in terms of the the the price mechanics, but I know I've I've been working on the sale over the last eighteen months because we've had a few interested parties. And I know that, you know, our founder felt that Antipodes was the, you know, better alignment, if you like, between, you know, some of the other people who'd who'd, you know, wanted to buy the business as well. But, yeah, I couldn't tell you on the price of things. But, thankfully, corporate travel yeah. No. It wouldn't have been too small because we we do have all of the other boutiques as well that plug into the business. Like, we've got, you know, there's g rates, there's infrastructure, we've got the Aussie Equity, we've got Long Short, we've there's emerging market. So they're the businesses we've got. Yeah. And then we've got a couple of yeah. So for the moment, everything remains unchanged. Like so Antipodes, if you recall, I I believe it was very early last year or maybe late the year before. They purchased Maple Brown Abbott, so that was another boutique business. So, basically and and and they're still branded Maple Brown. But, look, I don't know, you know, in time, whether it be six months, twelve months, or whatever that might look like, whether the BFM name, you know, comes into Antipodes Partners. Yes. Antipodes. Antipodes. Yeah. It's a yeah. No. It's Antipodes. Yeah. So and so they are so Pinnacle own a very small equity stake in Antipodes, but Antipodes is a separate and independent business in its own right. So Yeah. Yeah. And and so what's happening is Antipodes are building out their, you know, service offering, if you like. They're diversifying their business across different strategies that they have to offer to the market, and and it also gives them sales. Mid oh, that yeah. That's I believe they've got their their global, yeah, their their global I don't know too much about the Antipodes funds at this minute, but I'm definitely gonna have to get up to speed. But I yeah. It's it will be their global global value fund, which is the activity, and they've they've got an ETF both, I believe, it's both hedged and unhedged. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, right. Okay. Okay. Right. Well, I'll be able to pop out and have a chat to you at some point about all of that. I'll just get myself right up to speed on it. Yes. Antipodes? Yes. Yes. Yeah. My understanding so yeah. So Antipodes are going to take a number of our distribution team across. So we will, effectively, we will be sitting across Bennelong or and and our products, and we will also it's my understanding that we will we will be talking with the about the Antipodes products as well. So, effectively, we're we're going to be the same business. It's just, you know, for this, you know, transition period, things will, you know, look a little bit different. Like, Benelon funds management will be, you know, wholly still in its own right, but owned by Antipodes. And we will integrate the two businesses so it becomes one platform. Yeah. Yes. So oh, I you know what? The the workload, I'm not so sure I'm I'm excited about that, but I've been doing about sixty hours a week for the last, you know, two years. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And just talking through, yeah, the Aussie stuff and all of that. Absolutely. Yeah. So and but, hopefully, you'll see you've seen some positive, you know, come through in the numbers for b a e p. And I know corporate travel we listed Thursday a week ago, like, not Thursday last week. I believe it was the week before. And we've seen some good upside there. I think it's it's back to trading. I don't know. Yes, sir. It was about oh god. It's $2.40 something. Hang on. Let me just have a quick look. So, yeah, you've seen because if you recall, we we wrote it down to zero. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So so that so, yeah, $22.32 is what it's planning at. So yeah. So that gives us up uptick. I think for every dollar, I'd I'd I'd need to double check my numbers. For every dollar, it gives us about a 200 basis point uptick. Yeah. So we wrote it down to zero. Yes. So that was the it is still down quite a bit. Yes. But we if if you recall, we actually took that hit early. So we wrote the down we wrote that stock down significantly about to the tune of about 85% in, you know, October, November of last year. And then we wrote it down entirely. We wrote that other yeah. Yeah. Well, it it turns out, obviously, that, you know, it there was fraud. There was clear fraud within business and it was yeah. That's it. But but it was at the end point of it was one employee. It was one employee who looked after The UK government contracts, and and corporate travel picked up The UK government contracts after they did a lot of work through that COVID period where they were rehoming, if you like, asylum seekers and all of that. So and then this one particular employee who I would expect is probably, you know, remunerated or bonuses, you know, based on volume and and money coming into the business. When they they they had their auditors who originally were PWC, and then they put out the tender to have new auditors, which were Deloitte. Deloitte kind of picked up a few things and said, look, we think you've underestimated the earnings for corporate travel. We we think oh, sorry. For the business and the you you with The UK government contracts, and they were intending they were advising corporate travel to uplift their guidance in terms of earnings, etcetera. And then they bought KPMG in to do another sweep over the audit, and it was KPMG yeah. That's it. It was KPMG who picked up this anomaly. And what it was basically is Deloitte said through that process, look, it it's a little bit vague of the the contracts with the UK government in, you know, what they're paying for, what they're not. We wanna make sure that they have a the UK government have a clear understanding on what they're paying for. And so they provided a letter for the UK government to sign off on. It was the employee who actually signed the letter, the corporate travel yep. And submitted it. And it that anomaly was picked up by KPMG when they went, you know, to speak to the UK government, and they put, you know, documents in front of them, and and the UK government said, we've never seen this letter, and that's not us. That's not our signature. So that's how it was picked up. So it was really, you know, focused and quarantined to that one. Mhmm. A client, one employee. It is. Yeah. But since then as well, they believe it or not, the corporate travel have actually continued to I think the client retention is sitting at 97%. The UK government has actually given them additional contracts since all of this has happened. So yeah. Yeah. Well, it's possible. I don't know. But well, when you think about it, you've got all of the training. What we've seen is that's all of the the big index funds, you know, and obviously, you know, any of those fund managers who have mandates where they need to be mindful of index, they've had to mass sell the fund. Oh, sorry. Mass sell the stock because it has fallen out of, you know, the ASX 100, 200, etcetera. And so that's a lot of the selling that you've you've seen. We think that in you know, we'll we'll start to settle at at a point in time, and you may start to see things change. But, look, I've I've got some information on it that I've got from Ron yesterday. I can send that through to you. Yeah. Absolutely. I know I sent to or did I send it yesterday already? Because I know I sent Louisa some holdings data. Did I put corporate travel in there? And I think I copied you in. Let me just go through this. Hang on. If I haven't, I will send that to you. No. I no. I no. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. That emotional intelligence that some of us young babies have. You know what, Debbie? You've got a good beard out up here. Are you female? Yeah. No. I'm an advocate, male and female, but I I I do hear you clearly on that one. I think, yeah, the females have that extra little edge if you like. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Alright. Yes. I do. So I will send that to you right away. It will be very crude. I'll just flick quickly send it through. So I've got another couple of calls to make before I'll I'll send it through. Okay. And so anything to keep this information in house until about 11:30 midday if you can. That would be very helpful. Thanks, Debbie. Start chatting. I'll see you soon. Okay. 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How are you? Yes. Very good. Thank you.\n\nVery good. Yes. Oh, what's going on in the world of Bannalong? And before I tell you the the the good news, I would also like to offer my condolences for last week. I know you said that you had a passing in the family, so never easy.\n\nOh. Oh. Yes. Yes. Oh my goodness.\n\nYeah. They they they they built them strong back in the day. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yes.\n\nSo that's nice. Hopefully, she will be resting in peace and watching over you all. So, yep. They they do the nonnas have their they do have their reputation, don't they? So I know we've got my sister's married to well, of course, you know, George, the Italian side there, and I was just having dinner with Nona last night, actually.\n\nSo they they do glue the entire family together. So but so look, Shadi, I just wanted to give you the quick heads up. It's it's it's very positive news, and we're going to make a public announcement probably around 11:30 to midday. So if you could yeah. What was that?\n\nSorry? That no. No. Unfortunately, it won't be moving a dial. But in having said that, if you could, we'll just ask for discretion until about that time around 11:30 midday, but I wanted you to hear it from me because you're a, you know, a very good client of mine.\n\nSo Bangara Group is Bennelong Fund Management parent company. We last night signed agreements for Antipodes Partners to take full ownership of Bennelong Fund Management. So yes. So they've we've sold our entire platform, which includes all of the boutiques, so they all go across. It is very big news.\n\nAnd but from, you know, in terms of operations and everything going forward, there is absolutely yeah. There is no change. So Bennelong Funds Management will remain the RE for all of the boutiques. You know, everything will continue as per new normal. There is no change to, obviously, the teams because they are all independent businesses in their own right.\n\nSo investment philosophy pro everything remains the same, unchanged. Effectively, we just come across and we sit now as a part of the Antipodes partner's platform. There will be a transition period over the course of the next, you know, two to three months, I would say, where we look at, you know, plugging in back office systems and all of those sorts of things. But they will corporate travel? Yeah.\n\nYeah. Corporate travel. I'm not sure. That's something I'm actually not privy to in terms of the the the price mechanics, but I know I've I've been working on the sale over the last eighteen months because we've had a few interested parties. And I know that, you know, our founder felt that Antipodes was the, you know, better alignment, if you like, between, you know, some of the other people who'd who'd, you know, wanted to buy the business as well.\n\nBut, yeah, I couldn't tell you on the price of things. But, thankfully, corporate travel yeah. No. It wouldn't have been too small because we we do have all of the other boutiques as well that plug into the business. Like, we've got, you know, there's g rates, there's infrastructure, we've got the Aussie Equity, we've got Long Short, we've there's emerging market.\n\nSo they're the businesses we've got. Yeah. And then we've got a couple of yeah. So for the moment, everything remains unchanged. Like so Antipodes, if you recall, I I believe it was very early last year or maybe late the year before.\n\nThey purchased Maple Brown Abbott, so that was another boutique business. So, basically and and and they're still branded Maple Brown. 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I think for every dollar, I'd I'd I'd need to double check my numbers. For every dollar, it gives us about a 200 basis point uptick.\n\nYeah. So we wrote it down to zero. Yes. So that was the it is still down quite a bit. Yes.\n\nBut we if if you recall, we actually took that hit early. So we wrote the down we wrote that stock down significantly about to the tune of about 85% in, you know, October, November of last year. And then we wrote it down entirely. We wrote that other yeah. Yeah.\n\nWell, it it turns out, obviously, that, you know, it there was fraud. There was clear fraud within business and it was yeah. That's it. But but it was at the end point of it was one employee. 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That's it. It was KPMG who picked up this anomaly. And what it was basically is Deloitte said through that process, look, it it's a little bit vague of the the contracts with the UK government in, you know, what they're paying for, what they're not. We wanna make sure that they have a the UK government have a clear understanding on what they're paying for.\n\nAnd so they provided a letter for the UK government to sign off on. It was the employee who actually signed the letter, the corporate travel yep. And submitted it. And it that anomaly was picked up by KPMG when they went, you know, to speak to the UK government, and they put, you know, documents in front of them, and and the UK government said, we've never seen this letter, and that's not us. That's not our signature.\n\nSo that's how it was picked up. So it was really, you know, focused and quarantined to that one. Mhmm. A client, one employee. It is.\n\nYeah. 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How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Shody. Very well. Thank you. Long time no speak. How you been?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Very good. Thank you. Very good.\n\nChannel 0: That's good. How can I help?\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: What can I do for you? What's going on in the world\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: of Ben and Long? Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: what's going on in the world of Bannalong? And before\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: I tell you the the the good news, I would also like to offer my condolences for last week. I know you said that you had a passing\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: in the family, so\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yeah. No. Thank\n\nChannel 1: never\n\nChannel 0: you very\n\nChannel 1: easy.\n\nChannel 0: much. It's it's sad, but the matriarch of our big Italian extended family, Nona,\n\nChannel 1: Oh.\n\nChannel 0: she has yeah. The one that held us all together, she has\n\nChannel 1: Oh.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. It's look. It's a long time coming. She's this.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: She is a very strong and wise and powerful woman that\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: went through a lot through her life, and she was just too stubborn today. She went through, like, three strokes in her time,\n\nChannel 1: Oh\n\nChannel 0: and she's\n\nChannel 1: my goodness.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, and just carried on kicking. She goes, they never take me.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So so\n\nChannel 1: They they\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: they they built them strong back in the day.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Correct. She was in the whole Yugoslavia kind of debacle with Trieste and all that. So, yeah, she's been through a lot. But\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Oh,\n\nChannel 0: now\n\nChannel 1: wow.\n\nChannel 0: I'm sure she is at peace.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. So that's nice. Hopefully, she will be resting in peace and watching over you all. So,\n\nChannel 0: Yep. I'm sure she\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: will. She will probably become a poltergeist knowing her and just mess with her.\n\nChannel 1: They they do the nonnas have their they do have their reputation, don't they? So I know we've got\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: my sister's married to well, of course, you know, George, the Italian side there, and I was just having dinner with Nona last night, actually.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: There you go.\n\nChannel 1: they they do glue the entire family together. So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: but so look, Shadi, I just wanted to give you the quick heads up. It's it's it's very positive news, and we're going to make a public announcement probably around 11:30 to midday. So\n\nChannel 0: Oh, is\n\nChannel 1: if\n\nChannel 0: this\n\nChannel 1: you could\n\nChannel 0: insider trading? Surely.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. What was that? Sorry? That\n\nChannel 0: Is this insider trading? You're gonna make a announcement that's gonna affect the the price of of the managed funds?\n\nChannel 1: no. No. Unfortunately,\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: it won't be moving a dial.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: But in having said that, if you could, we'll just ask for discretion until about that time around 11:30 midday,\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: but I wanted you to hear it from me because you're a, you know, a very good client of mine. So Bangara Group is Bennelong Fund Management parent company. We\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: last night signed agreements for Antipodes Partners to take full ownership of Bennelong Fund Management. So yes. So they've we've sold our entire platform, which includes all of the boutiques, so they\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: all go across.\n\nChannel 0: Wow. Big news. Big news.\n\nChannel 1: It is very big news. And but from, you know, in terms of operations and everything\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It's\n\nChannel 1: going\n\nChannel 0: still the\n\nChannel 1: forward,\n\nChannel 0: same.\n\nChannel 1: there is absolutely yeah. There is no change. So Bennelong Funds Management will remain the RE for all of the boutiques. You know, everything will continue as per new normal. There is no change to, obviously, the teams because they are all independent businesses in their own right.\n\nChannel 0: Correct. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So investment philosophy pro everything remains the same, unchanged. Effectively, we just come across and we sit now as a part of the Antipodes partner's platform. There will be a transition period over the course of the next, you know, two to three months, I would say, where we look at, you know, plugging in back office systems and all of those sorts of things. But\n\nChannel 0: I'm\n\nChannel 1: they\n\nChannel 0: sure\n\nChannel 1: will\n\nChannel 0: because of that commercial travel group thing that that old debacle, I'm sure they would have shaved a few numbers of the sale price.\n\nChannel 1: corporate travel?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Corporate travel. Sorry.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Corporate travel. I'm not sure. That's something I'm actually not privy to in terms of the the the price mechanics, but I know I've I've been working on the sale over the last eighteen months because we've had a few interested parties.\n\nAnd I know that, you know, our founder felt that Antipodes was the, you know, better alignment, if you like, between,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: you know, some of the other people who'd who'd, you know, wanted to buy the business as well. But, yeah, I couldn't tell you on the price of things. But, thankfully,\n\nChannel 0: It would've been a it wouldn't have been\n\nChannel 1: corporate\n\nChannel 0: a small\n\nChannel 1: travel\n\nChannel 0: number.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. No. It wouldn't have been too small because we we do have all of the other boutiques as well that plug into the business. Like, we've got, you know, there's g rates, there's infrastructure, we've got\n\nChannel 0: Correct.\n\nChannel 1: the Aussie Equity, we've got Long Short, we've there's emerging\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: market.\n\nChannel 0: I remember\n\nChannel 1: So they're\n\nChannel 0: that.\n\nChannel 1: the businesses\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we've got. Yeah. And then we've got a\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: couple\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: of\n\nChannel 0: all have been\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: long all have been long gone. Is it gonna transition into a new kind of\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: managed fund name under the new entity? Or\n\nChannel 1: for the moment, everything remains unchanged.\n\nChannel 0: Gotcha.\n\nChannel 1: Like so Antipodes, if you recall, I I believe it was very early last year or maybe late the year before. They purchased Maple Brown Abbott, so that was another boutique business. So, basically\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: and and and they're still branded Maple Brown. But, look, I don't know, you know, in time, whether it be six months, twelve months, or whatever that might look like, whether the BFM name, you know, comes into\n\nChannel 0: Antipodes.\n\nChannel 1: Antipodes\n\nChannel 0: Is it an\n\nChannel 1: Partners.\n\nChannel 0: Antipodes? Antipodes?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Antipodes.\n\nChannel 0: The it\n\nChannel 1: Antipodes. Yeah. It's\n\nChannel 0: Ah,\n\nChannel 1: a yeah.\n\nChannel 0: there you go. I always thought of the other one. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha.\n\nChannel 1: No. It's Antipodes. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: and so they are so Pinnacle own a very small equity stake in Antipodes, but Antipodes is a separate and independent business in its own right. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Correct.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And and so what's happening is Antipodes are building out their, you know, service offering, if you like. They're diversifying their business across different strategies that they have to offer to the market, and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and it also\n\nChannel 0: They listed.\n\nChannel 1: gives them\n\nChannel 0: They've got they've\n\nChannel 1: sales.\n\nChannel 0: got something like midi midi or mid mid mid something like that on the ASX.\n\nChannel 1: Mid oh, that yeah. That's I believe they've got\n\nChannel 0: You\n\nChannel 1: their\n\nChannel 0: can invest into\n\nChannel 1: their\n\nChannel 0: their\n\nChannel 1: global,\n\nChannel 0: investment scheme. Yeah. Something like\n\nChannel 1: yeah,\n\nChannel 0: that.\n\nChannel 1: their their global I don't know too much about the Antipodes funds at this minute, but I'm definitely gonna have to get up to speed.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I think it's\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: m\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: I d s. It's an active, I believe, and I might be wrong here,\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: but\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: I looked\n\nChannel 1: it will\n\nChannel 0: into\n\nChannel 1: be\n\nChannel 0: that.\n\nChannel 1: their global global value fund, which is the\n\nChannel 0: Correct.\n\nChannel 1: activity,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and they've they've got an ETF\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: both, I believe, it's both hedged and unhedged.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: the reason you know, it's crazy. It's the reason why we're looking into it is because we started, you know, 60% hedging all of our assets with the need back right back this May because of the currency because of foreign exchange. So,\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: yeah,\n\nChannel 1: right.\n\nChannel 0: trying to\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: find that global kinda hedged market. That's what a lot at least that's what we're looking for at the moment.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: So Oh.\n\nChannel 1: Right. Well, I'll be able to pop out and have a chat to you at some point about all of that. I'll\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: does\n\nChannel 1: get\n\nChannel 0: that\n\nChannel 1: myself\n\nChannel 0: mean that\n\nChannel 1: right\n\nChannel 0: you\n\nChannel 1: up to\n\nChannel 0: are\n\nChannel 1: speed\n\nChannel 0: going\n\nChannel 1: on\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: stay are you gonna say sorry to interrupt, but does\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: that mean that you're gonna stay with Benelung under antipodes or antipodes? And\n\nChannel 1: Antipodes?\n\nChannel 0: yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: And then you're still gonna beat him. So you're gonna be able to beat him for all of it.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yeah. My understanding\n\nChannel 0: Oh.\n\nChannel 1: so yeah. So Antipodes are going to take a number of our distribution team across.\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: So we will, effectively, we will be sitting across Bennelong or and and our products, and we will also it's my understanding that we will we will be talking with the about the Antipodes products as well. So, effectively, we're we're going to be the same business. It's just, you know, for this, you know, transition period, things will, you know, look a little bit different. Like, Benelon\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: funds management will be, you know, wholly still in its own right, but owned by Antipodes. And we will integrate the two businesses so it becomes one platform.\n\nChannel 0: Amazing. Very clever.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Are you excited?\n\nChannel 1: So oh, I you know what? The the workload, I'm not so sure I'm I'm excited about that, but I've been\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: doing about sixty hours a week for the last, you know, two years.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Absolutely. You would have been you would have been working very hard to try and convince people to with the performance of our\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: I'd doff\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: my hat\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: too.\n\nChannel 1: just talking through, yeah, the Aussie stuff and all of that. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So and but, hopefully, you'll see you've seen some positive, you know, come through\n\nChannel 0: We have.\n\nChannel 1: in the numbers for b a e p. And I know corporate travel we listed Thursday a week ago, like, not Thursday last week. I believe it was the week before. And we've seen some good upside there. I think it's it's back to trading.\n\nI don't know. Yes, sir. It was about oh god. It's $2.40 something. Hang on.\n\nLet me just have a quick look. So, yeah, you've seen because if you recall, we we wrote it down to zero.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Correct. CTD. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So\n\nChannel 0: So what does that mean for the better long price?\n\nChannel 1: so that so, yeah, $22.32\n\nChannel 0: Two dollars\n\nChannel 1: is what\n\nChannel 0: 30\n\nChannel 1: it's\n\nChannel 0: 2¢.\n\nChannel 1: planning\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: at.\n\nChannel 0: Looking\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: at\n\nChannel 1: yeah. So that gives us up uptick. I think for every\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: dollar, I'd I'd I'd need to double check\n\nChannel 0: now.\n\nChannel 1: my numbers. For every dollar, it gives us about a 200 basis point uptick.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Gotcha.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So we wrote it down\n\nChannel 0: Still\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: doesn't\n\nChannel 1: zero.\n\nChannel 0: change. Yeah. I'm looking at so the the I still don't so on this first day back, the stock experienced a steep decline falling up to 80 to 85% on this pre suspension price of $16.07.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. So\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: she's\n\nChannel 1: was\n\nChannel 0: still\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: down quite a bit. But\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: is still down quite a bit. Yes. But we if if you recall, we actually took that hit early. So we wrote the down we wrote that\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: stock\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: down significantly about to the tune of about 85% in, you know, October, November of last year.\n\nChannel 0: Correct.\n\nChannel 1: And then we wrote it down entirely. We wrote that other\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep. Yep. Never thought they'll be trading\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Yeah. Well, it it turns out,\n\nChannel 0: again.\n\nChannel 1: obviously, that, you know, it there was fraud. There was clear fraud within\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Correct.\n\nChannel 1: business\n\nChannel 0: See,\n\nChannel 1: and it\n\nChannel 0: EFI\n\nChannel 1: was\n\nChannel 0: needs to go to jail.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. That's it. But but it was at the end point of it was one employee. It\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: was one employee who looked after The UK government contracts, and and corporate travel picked up The UK government contracts after they did a lot of work through that COVID period where they were\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: rehoming, if you like, asylum seekers and all of that. So and then this one particular employee who I would expect is probably, you know, remunerated or bonuses, you know, based on\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: volume and and money coming into the business.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: When they they they had their auditors who originally were PWC, and then they put out the tender to have new auditors, which were Deloitte. Deloitte kind of picked up a few things and said, look, we think you've underestimated the earnings for corporate travel. We we think oh, sorry. For the\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: business and the you you with\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: The UK government contracts, and they were intending they were advising corporate travel to uplift their guidance in terms of earnings, etcetera. And then they bought KPMG in to do another sweep over the\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: audit,\n\nChannel 0: they\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: would have\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: was KPMG\n\nChannel 0: absolutely fine tooth combed it.\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: That's it. It was KPMG who picked up this anomaly. And what it was basically is Deloitte said through that process, look, it it's a little bit vague of the the contracts with the UK government in, you know, what they're paying for, what they're not. We wanna make sure that they have a the UK government have a clear understanding on what they're paying for. And so they provided a letter for the UK government to sign off on.\n\nIt was the employee who actually signed the letter, the corporate travel\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: submitted it. And it that anomaly was picked up by KPMG when they went, you know, to speak to the UK government, and they\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: put,\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: know, documents\n\nChannel 0: probably the\n\nChannel 1: in\n\nChannel 0: best.\n\nChannel 1: front of them, and and the UK government said, we've never seen this letter, and that's not us. That's not our signature.\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: So that's how it was picked up. So it was really, you know, focused and quarantined to that one. Mhmm. A client, one\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: employee.\n\nChannel 0: insane.\n\nChannel 1: It is. Yeah. But since then as\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: well, they believe it or not, the corporate travel have actually continued to I think the client retention is sitting at 97%. The\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: UK government has actually given them additional contracts since all of this has happened.\n\nChannel 0: K.\n\nChannel 1: So yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I'm a pirate.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Well, it's possible. I don't know. But well, when you think about it, you've got all of the training. What we've seen is that's all of the the big index funds, you know, and obviously, you know, any of those fund managers who have mandates where they need to be mindful of index, they've had to mass sell the fund.\n\nOh, sorry. Mass sell the stock because it has fallen out of, you know, the ASX 100, 200, etcetera.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: And so that's a lot of the selling that you've you've seen. We think that in you know, we'll we'll start to settle at at a point in time, and you may start to see things change. But, look, I've I've got some information on it that I've got from Ron yesterday. I\n\nChannel 0: Send\n\nChannel 1: can\n\nChannel 0: it\n\nChannel 1: send\n\nChannel 0: through.\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: through\n\nChannel 0: If\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: you can,\n\nChannel 1: you. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that'd be amazing.\n\nChannel 1: Absolutely. I know\n\nChannel 0: Thank\n\nChannel 1: I sent\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: to or did I send it yesterday already? Because I know I sent Louisa some holdings data. Did I put corporate travel in there? And I think I copied you in. Let me just go through this.\n\nHang on. If I haven't, I will send that to you. No. I\n\nChannel 0: Oh, CEO\n\nChannel 1: no. I\n\nChannel 0: is CEO\n\nChannel 1: no.\n\nChannel 0: is Anna Pedersen. Okay. So females. I love female CEOs. I think they I think females should run the world, to be honest.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. I think females feel like politicians. Yep. Presidents, stuff like that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And, so, yes, I think they make way better CEOs because they got their more a higher level of empathy and care.\n\nChannel 1: Exactly. That emotional intelligence that some\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: of\n\nChannel 0: no.\n\nChannel 1: us\n\nChannel 0: I wouldn't\n\nChannel 1: young babies\n\nChannel 0: go that\n\nChannel 1: have.\n\nChannel 0: far. I I gave you that much. Don't push the boundaries around.\n\nChannel 1: You know what, Debbie? You've got a good beard out up here.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. No.\n\nChannel 1: Are\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: put\n\nChannel 1: female?\n\nChannel 0: yeah. No. Absolutely. I'm sorry?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. No. I'm an advocate, male and female, but I I I do hear you clearly on that one. I think,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, the females have that extra little edge if you like.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. When it\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: comes to leading. Yep. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Exactly.\n\nChannel 0: Alright. So what\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: do we do from here? You've got my email. You know where to send it?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. I do. So I will send that to you right away. It will be very\n\nChannel 0: Thank you, Paul.\n\nChannel 1: crude. I'll\n\nChannel 0: Thank\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: you.\n\nChannel 1: flick quickly\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: send it through. So I've got another couple of calls to make\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That's\n\nChannel 1: before\n\nChannel 0: why I don't need the fluff. I don't need none of that fluff. Just flick it through the\n\nChannel 1: I'll\n\nChannel 0: information.\n\nChannel 1: I'll send\n\nChannel 0: I'll be\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: happy.\n\nChannel 1: through. Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Thank you for\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: your time\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: in\n\nChannel 1: anything\n\nChannel 0: reaching out.\n\nChannel 1: to keep this information in house until about 11:30 midday if you can.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: That would be very helpful. Thanks, Debbie.\n\nChannel 0: Will do. Thanks. See you. Bye.\n\nChannel 1: Start chatting. I'll see you soon.\n\nChannel 0: Thanks. Bye.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. 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That's what a lot at least that's what we're looking for at the moment. Okay.","start_word":1229,"end_word":1292,"intents":[{"intent":"Discuss and integrate","confidence_score":0.006318841}]},{"text":"You would have been you would have been working very hard to try and convince people to with the performance of our Yeah. Exactly.","start_word":1544,"end_word":1567,"intents":[{"intent":"Assess stock performance","confidence_score":0.024150617}]},{"text":"We wanna make sure that they have a the UK government have a clear understanding on what they're paying for.","start_word":2174,"end_word":2193,"intents":[{"intent":"Clarify pay understanding","confidence_score":0.0013567273}]},{"text":"put, Well, you that's know, documents probably the in best. front of them, and and the UK government said, we've never seen this letter, and that's not us. That's not our signature. Wow.","start_word":2250,"end_word":2282,"intents":[{"intent":"Document documents","confidence_score":0.0014542247}]},{"text":"to or did I send it yesterday already? Because I know I sent Louisa some holdings data. Did I put corporate travel in there? And I think I copied you in. Let me just go through this. Hang on. If I haven't, I will send that to you. No.","start_word":2520,"end_word":2568,"intents":[{"intent":"Sending data","confidence_score":0.12538005}]},{"text":"Because I know I sent Louisa some holdings data. Did I put corporate travel in there? And I think I copied you in. Let me just go through this. Hang on. If I haven't, I will send that to you. No.","start_word":2527,"end_word":2567,"intents":[{"intent":"Reviewing information","confidence_score":0.0070627127}]},{"text":"I I gave you that much. Don't push the boundaries around. You know what, Debbie?","start_word":2653,"end_word":2667,"intents":[{"intent":"Giving advice","confidence_score":0.0023231744}]},{"text":"It will be very Thank you, Paul. crude.","start_word":2764,"end_word":2771,"intents":[{"intent":"Expressing appreciation","confidence_score":0.18479007}]},{"text":"That's before why I don't need the fluff. I don't need none of that fluff. Just flick it through the I'll information. I'll send I'll be it happy. through.","start_word":2793,"end_word":2821,"intents":[{"intent":"Expressing frustration","confidence_score":0.0006111816}]}]},"sentiments":{"segments":[{"text":"Chevy's not a speak. Young City, it's Jody calling. How are you? Shody. Very well.","start_word":0,"end_word":14,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04714290797710419},{"text":"Thank you.","start_word":15,"end_word":16,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3548837900161743},{"text":"Long time no speak. How you been? Yes.","start_word":17,"end_word":24,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.035249385982751846},{"text":"Very good. Thank you. Very That's good. good.","start_word":25,"end_word":32,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.43754518032073975},{"text":"How can I help? Yes. What can I do for you? What's going on in the world Oh, of Ben and Long? Mhmm. what's going on in the world of Bannalong? And before Mhmm. I tell you the the the good news, I would also like to offer my condolences for last week. I know you said that you had a passing Mhmm. in the family, so Yes. Yeah. No. Thank never you very easy. much. It's it's sad, but the matriarch of our big Italian extended family, Nona, Oh. she has yeah. The one that held us all together, she has Oh. yeah. It's look. It's a long time coming. She's this. Yes. She is a very strong and wise and powerful woman that Yes. went through a lot through her life, and she was just too stubborn today. She went through, like, three strokes in her time, Oh and she's my goodness. yeah, and just carried on kicking. She goes, they never take me. Yeah. So so They they yeah. they they built them strong back in the day. Yeah. Correct. She was in the whole Yugoslavia kind of debacle with Trieste and all that. So, yeah, she's been through a lot. But Yeah. Oh, now wow. I'm sure she is at peace. Yes.","start_word":33,"end_word":248,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.055872153490781784},{"text":"So that's nice. Hopefully, she will be resting in peace and watching over you all.","start_word":249,"end_word":263,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3728000223636627},{"text":"So, Yep. I'm sure she yep. will. She will probably become a poltergeist knowing her and just mess with her. They they do the nonnas have their they do have their reputation, don't they? So I know we've Absolutely. got my sister's married to well, of course, you know, George, the Italian side there, and I was just having dinner with Nona last night, actually. Yeah. So There you go.","start_word":264,"end_word":333,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03647697142192296},{"text":"they they do glue the entire family together.","start_word":334,"end_word":341,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5867276787757874},{"text":"So Yep.","start_word":342,"end_word":343,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.29392269253730774},{"text":"but so look, Shadi, I just wanted to give you the quick heads up. It's it's it's very positive news, and we're going to make a public announcement probably around 11:30 to midday.","start_word":344,"end_word":376,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5216778516769409},{"text":"So Oh, is if this you could insider trading? Surely. yeah. What was that? Sorry? That Is this insider trading? You're gonna make a announcement that's gonna affect the the price of of the managed funds? no. No. Unfortunately, Okay. it won't be moving a dial. Okay. Perfect. But in having said that, if you could, we'll just ask for discretion until about that time around 11:30 midday, Mhmm. but I wanted you to hear it from me because you're a, you know, a very good client of mine. So Bangara Group is Bennelong Fund Management parent company. We Mhmm. last night signed agreements for Antipodes Partners to take full ownership of Bennelong Fund Management. So yes. So they've we've sold our entire platform, which includes all of the boutiques, so they Wow. all go across. Wow. Big news. Big news. It is very big news. And but from, you know, in terms of operations and everything Yeah. It's going still the forward, same. there is absolutely yeah. There is no change. So Bennelong Funds Management will remain the RE for all of the boutiques. You know, everything will continue as per new normal. There is no change to, obviously, the teams because they are all independent businesses in their own right. Correct. Yeah. So investment philosophy pro everything remains the same, unchanged. Effectively, we just come across and we sit now as a part of the Antipodes partner's platform. There will be a transition period over the course of the next, you know, two to three months, I would say, where we look at, you know, plugging in back office systems and all of those sorts of things.","start_word":377,"end_word":655,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08368454797453778},{"text":"But I'm they sure will because of that commercial travel group thing that that old debacle, I'm sure they would have shaved a few numbers of the sale price.","start_word":656,"end_word":684,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34529241919517517},{"text":"corporate travel? Yeah. Corporate travel. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Corporate travel. I'm not sure. That's something I'm actually not privy to in terms of the the the price mechanics, but I know I've I've been working on the sale over the last eighteen months because we've had a few interested parties. And I know that, you know, our founder felt that Antipodes was the, you know, better alignment, if you like, between, Yeah. Yeah. you know, some of the other people who'd who'd, you know, wanted to buy the business as well. But, yeah, I couldn't tell you on the price of things. But, thankfully, It would've been a it wouldn't have been corporate a small travel number. yeah. No. It wouldn't have been too small because we we do have all of the other boutiques as well that plug into the business. Like, we've got, you know, there's g rates, there's infrastructure, we've got Correct. the Aussie Equity, we've got Long Short, we've there's emerging Yeah. market. I remember So they're that. the businesses Yeah. we've got. Yeah. And then we've got a So couple the of all have been yeah. long all have been long gone. Is it gonna transition into a new kind of So managed fund name under the new entity? Or for the moment, everything remains unchanged. Gotcha. Like so Antipodes, if you recall, I I believe it was very early last year or maybe late the year before. They purchased Maple Brown Abbott, so that was another boutique business. So, basically Yep. and and and they're still branded Maple Brown. But, look, I don't know, you know, in time, whether it be six months, twelve months, or whatever that might look like, whether the BFM name, you know, comes into Antipodes. Antipodes Is it an Partners. Antipodes? Antipodes? Yes. Antipodes. The it Antipodes. Yeah. Ah, It's a there yeah. you go. I always thought of the other one. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. No. It's Antipodes. Yeah. Yep. So Yep. and so they are so Pinnacle own a very small equity stake in Antipodes, but Antipodes is a separate and independent business in its own right. So Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And and so what's happening is Antipodes are building out their, you know, service offering, if you like. They're diversifying their business across different strategies that they have to offer to the market, and Yeah. and it also They listed. gives them They've got they've sales. got something like midi midi or mid mid mid something like that on the ASX. Mid oh, that yeah. That's I believe they've got You their can invest into their their global, investment scheme. Yeah. Something like yeah, that. their their global I don't know too much about the Antipodes funds at this minute, but I'm definitely gonna have to get up to speed. Yeah. I think it's But m I I d s. It's an active, I believe, and I might be wrong here, yeah. but It's I looked it will into be that. their global global value fund, which is the Correct. activity, Yeah. and they've they've got an ETF Yep. both, I believe, it's both hedged and unhedged. Yep. Yep. Yeah. And Yeah. the reason you know, it's crazy. It's the reason why we're looking into it is because we started, you know, 60% hedging all of our assets with the need back right back this May because of the currency because of foreign exchange. So, Oh, yeah, right. trying to Okay. find that global kinda hedged market. That's what a lot at least that's what we're looking for at the moment. Okay. So Oh. Right. Well, I'll be able to pop out and have a chat to you at some point about all of that. I'll Well, just does get that myself mean that right you up to are speed going on to it. stay are you gonna say sorry to interrupt, but does Yes. that mean that you're gonna stay with Benelung under antipodes or antipodes? And Antipodes? yep. Yes. And then you're still gonna beat him. So you're gonna be able to beat him for all of it. Yes. Yeah. My understanding Oh. so yeah. So Antipodes are going to take a number of our distribution team across. Mhmm. So we will, effectively, we will be sitting across Bennelong or and and our products, and we will also it's my understanding that we will we will be talking with the about the Antipodes products as well. So, effectively, we're we're going to be the same business. It's just, you know, for this, you know, transition period, things will, you know, look a little bit different. Like, Benelon Yep. funds management will be, you know, wholly still in its own right, but owned by Antipodes. And we will integrate the two businesses so it becomes one platform.","start_word":685,"end_word":1497,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03571972880297115},{"text":"Amazing. Very clever.","start_word":1498,"end_word":1500,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.636457622051239},{"text":"Yeah. Yes. Are you excited? So oh, I you know what? The the workload, I'm not so sure I'm I'm excited about that, but I've been Yeah. doing about sixty hours a week for the last, you know, two years. Yep. Absolutely. You would have been you would have been working very hard to try and convince people to with the performance of our Yeah. Exactly. I'd doff Yeah. my hat And too. just talking through, yeah, the Aussie stuff and all of that.","start_word":1501,"end_word":1584,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.053703440353274345},{"text":"Absolutely.","start_word":1585,"end_word":1585,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.35941097140312195},{"text":"Yeah. Yeah.","start_word":1586,"end_word":1587,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24264000356197357},{"text":"So and but, hopefully, you'll see you've seen some positive, you know, come through We have.","start_word":1588,"end_word":1603,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3347843885421753},{"text":"in the numbers for b a e p. And I know corporate travel we listed Thursday a week ago, like, not Thursday last week. I believe it was the week before.","start_word":1604,"end_word":1634,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06941775977611542},{"text":"And we've seen some good upside there.","start_word":1635,"end_word":1641,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.40519094467163086},{"text":"I think it's it's back to trading. I don't know. Yes, sir. It was about oh god. It's $2.40 something. Hang on. Let me just have a quick look. So, yeah, you've seen because if you recall, we we wrote it down to zero. Yeah. Correct. CTD. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So So what does that mean for the better long price? so that so, yeah, $22.32 Two dollars is what 30 it's 2<unk>. planning Yep. at. Looking So at yeah. So that gives us up uptick. I think for every it dollar, I'd I'd I'd need to double check now. my numbers. For every dollar, it gives us about a 200 basis point uptick. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. So we wrote it down Still to doesn't zero. change. Yeah. I'm looking at so the the I still don't so on this first day back, the stock experienced a steep decline falling up to 80 to 85% on this pre suspension price of $16.07. Yes. So So she's that was still the down quite a bit. But it Yeah. is still down quite a bit. Yes. But we if if you recall, we actually took that hit early. So we wrote the down we wrote that Yeah. stock Yeah. down significantly about to the tune of about 85% in, you know, October, November of last year. Correct. And then we wrote it down entirely. We wrote that other Yep. Yep. Yep. Never thought they'll be trading yeah. Yeah. Well, it it turns out, again.","start_word":1642,"end_word":1894,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04858402040577218},{"text":"obviously, that, you know, it there was fraud. There was clear fraud within Yeah.","start_word":1895,"end_word":1908,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4327752888202667},{"text":"Yeah. Correct. business See, and it EFI was needs to go to jail. yeah. That's it. But but it was at the end point of it was one employee. It Yeah. was one employee who looked after The UK government contracts, and and corporate travel picked up The UK government contracts after they did a lot of work through that COVID period where they were Yep. rehoming, if you like, asylum seekers and all of that. So and then this one particular employee who I would expect is probably, you know, remunerated or bonuses, you know, based Yeah. on volume and and money coming into the business. Yep. When they they they had their auditors who originally were PWC, and then they put out the tender to have new auditors, which were Deloitte. Deloitte kind of picked up a few things and said, look, we think you've underestimated the earnings for corporate travel. We we think oh, sorry. For the Mhmm. business and the you you with Yep. The UK government contracts, and they were intending they were advising corporate travel to uplift their guidance in terms of earnings, etcetera. And then they bought KPMG in to do another sweep over the And audit, they would and have it just was KPMG absolutely fine tooth combed it. yeah. Yeah. That's it. It was KPMG who picked up this anomaly. And what it was basically is Deloitte said through that process, look, it it's a little bit vague of the the contracts with the UK government in, you know, what they're paying for, what they're not. We wanna make sure that they have a the UK government have a clear understanding on what they're paying for. And so they provided a letter for the UK government to sign off on. It was the employee who actually signed the letter, the corporate travel Wow. yep. Wow. And Okay. submitted it. And it that anomaly was picked up by KPMG when they went, you know, to speak to the UK government, and they Yeah. put, Well, you that's know, documents probably the in best. front of them, and and the UK government said, we've never seen this letter, and that's not us. That's not our signature. Wow. So that's how it was picked up. So it was really, you know, focused and quarantined to that one. Mhmm. A client, one That's employee. insane. It is. Yeah. But since then as Wow. well, they believe it or not, the corporate travel have actually continued to I think the client retention is sitting at 97%. The Wow. UK government has actually given them additional contracts since all of this has happened. K. So yeah. I'm a pirate. Yeah. Well, it's possible. I don't know. But well, when you think about it, you've got all of the training. What we've seen is that's all of the the big index funds, you know, and obviously, you know, any of those fund managers who have mandates where they need to be mindful of index, they've had to mass sell the fund. Oh, sorry. Mass sell the stock because it has fallen out of, you know, the ASX 100, 200, etcetera. Yep. And so that's a lot of the selling that you've you've seen. We think that in you know, we'll we'll start to settle at at a point in time, and you may start to see things change. But, look, I've I've got some information on it that I've got from Ron yesterday. I Send can it send through. that Yeah. through If to you can, you.","start_word":1909,"end_word":2507,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.08997930027855458},{"text":"Yeah. that'd be amazing. Absolutely. I know Thank I sent you.","start_word":2508,"end_word":2518,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4347499907016754},{"text":"to or did I send it yesterday already? Because I know I sent Louisa some holdings data. Did I put corporate travel in there? And I think I copied you in. Let me just go through this. Hang on. If I haven't, I will send that to you. No. I Oh, CEO no. I is CEO no. is Anna Pedersen. Okay. So females.","start_word":2519,"end_word":2581,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.036041710525751114},{"text":"I love female CEOs. I think they I think females should run the world, to be honest.","start_word":2582,"end_word":2598,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3970492780208587},{"text":"Yes. Yep. I think females feel like politicians. Yep. Presidents, stuff like that. Yeah.","start_word":2599,"end_word":2612,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.11487419158220293},{"text":"And, so, yes, I think they make way better CEOs because they got their more a higher level of empathy and care.","start_word":2613,"end_word":2634,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4565302729606629},{"text":"Exactly. That emotional intelligence that some Oh, of no. us I wouldn't young babies go that have. far. I I gave you that much. Don't push the boundaries around. You know what, Debbie? You've got a good beard out up here. Yeah. No. Are I you put female? yeah. No. Absolutely. I'm sorry? Yeah. No. I'm an advocate, male and female, but I I I do hear you clearly on that one. I think, Yep. yeah, the females have that extra little edge if you like. Yeah. Yeah. When it Yeah. comes to leading. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Exactly. Alright. So what Alright. do we do from here? You've got my email. You know where to send it? Yes. I do. So I will send that to you right away.","start_word":2635,"end_word":2763,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08104003220796585},{"text":"It will be very Thank you, Paul.","start_word":2764,"end_word":2770,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.34484753012657166},{"text":"crude. I'll Thank just you. flick quickly Yeah. Yeah. send it through. So I've got another couple of calls to make Yeah. That's before why I don't need the fluff. I don't need none of that fluff. Just flick it through the I'll information.","start_word":2771,"end_word":2814,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09246589988470078},{"text":"I'll send I'll be it happy.","start_word":2815,"end_word":2820,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3941604495048523},{"text":"through. Okay.","start_word":2821,"end_word":2822,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.20283199846744537},{"text":"Thank you for And your time so in anything reaching out.","start_word":2823,"end_word":2833,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4814048707485199},{"text":"to keep this information in house until about 11:30 midday if you can.","start_word":2834,"end_word":2846,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10984458774328232},{"text":"Absolutely. That would be very helpful. Thanks, Debbie. Will do. Thanks. See you. Bye. Start chatting. I'll see you soon. Thanks.","start_word":2847,"end_word":2867,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5837146043777466},{"text":"Bye. Okay. Bye.","start_word":2868,"end_word":2870,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.21874161064624784}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.026393372069853375}}}}