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And your you you counsel that that's overland. And, essentially, you need to and sorry. You've got to model it. Is that right? Oh, okay. What what is it that they've been saying? Sorry. I'm just trying to so I'm what what I'm assuming has happened is that most of Melbourne has had new flood modeling come into most of Melbourne has done new flood modeling. And, essentially, the new flood modeling is showing a lot of places are floodplain. And so that modeling, I'm assuming, is now over your property. Is that right? Okay. Okay. So yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yes. Yes. Yep. Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. Interesting. Two five? Yeah. Yeah. It's well, essentially, what what you need to demonstrate is that the apex of the to to the entry to the basement is above the flood level. So then I don't know why you would need to do flood modeling if it is above that level. And the Apex needs to be 300 mil above the flood level. Yes. So then what what so what's cancels? I don't I don't fully understand why cancel would be pushy. Yep. K. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I guess that you've probably got two options then, which is which is, I guess, what Clark has said, which is do the flood modeling and demonstrate it, or a simpler version, which is if you've got survey, just present the survey of the of your your road compared sorry, your house property compared to the the the footpath, and then show that you are above it. And that's that that should be that should be the demonstration of that. If you can demonstrate that and say, if you if the flood level is within like, you've told us, the flood level is within the roadside reserve. The the for past this level, and this is what level we're building it, it means we've got we've achieved the free board that you're worried about. That's that's probably the cheapest way of doing it because that you could do all that yourself. If they yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I guess it's a it's an email. Well, sorry. It's a chat chat with them just or sit down with their council engineers because it'd probably give you a bit of a better idea of exactly what they're worried about. Look. My expectation is you probably you you council, like I said, can be a little bit apprehensive about accepting it without any modeling. So it's probably why why has said, you we need to do it. I it no. So it's yeah. So rain on grid, I'm not sure why you would need to do rain on grid because surely, I I would expect you to be able to grab the flows from also that should reduce the price of the quote. So usually, what I would do is I'd ask counsel for flows without because a rate of approach may basically is is saying they they're doing the hydrology as well, which I don't know why if you can get it for free, why not just get it from Council? And especially because if they're doing the rain on grid hydrology, it means they're knocking in the pit and pipe network look worse for your site. I don't know. It doesn't seem correct to me. But but, I mean, obviously, I don't haven't spoken to the engineers, and I don't really know what council wants to will provide. But I guess that's that's what that's probably the thing I'm pro I'd be most nervous about. So I honestly, if if it were me, I'd probably speak to the engineer the council engineer first. Say, look, this is these are the levels that we're dealing with shortly. I mean, it may anyway, we've got we've achieved the free board fine. They come back and they no. You need to have five models and them for a flow. Say that you want a hydrograph or a flow rate and then go to Park and say, can you update your quote? We're gonna use this flow rate, and this is and and overland flow, and it should be a bit cheaper. I've done a couple of assessments. I do I said, like, most councils pretty similar. You just need to, I guess, speak to them, kinda rationalize, try to get them on your side instead of unfortunately, I know how it can sometimes get people off put people offside. So I don't know. Hopefully, they haven't done that. But Yeah. I it seems it is it is a bit strange. Yeah. It doesn't seem so are you sorry. Could you do the hair growth modeling yourself? Oh, right. Okay. Alright. So I guess is that so for the councils and Melbourne Water don't accept heck raise anymore. It's which is why so just yeah. I guess up upfront, I don't really I I like that just I think it's brilliant for bridges. For complex flood plains, not the Yeah. If it's demonstrating it's not flooded, then, you know, it's not flooded. You can still get that, but I think that will also probably be again. So I guess it's that council will probably have in the back of their mind that other people don't use Hetcras anymore, and they probably don't know how to assess it. So they won't be able to like, they won't help you. I'm sorry. That that's probably been a bit too blunt, but that's that's really what I think. Yeah. I'm looking I I just yeah. They just don't know. I think that's probably part of yeah. It's just one of the issues with them that I've had for some time is that they they know enough to be annoying, which is always worse than not knowing anything. At least not knowing anything, you can kinda talk to them and, I don't know, try to get them out of thin. But if they know enough, but not the right stuff, it gets worse almost. Yeah. I look. I think that's the approach I would go for. Yeah. It is. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look. We I do them every day. So I'm yeah. I'm I'm no problem with those whatsoever. I yeah. And if yeah. I mean, look. If they got if HAC oh, sorry. If if HAC is still stupidly expensive, I can also just review their quote for you and just be like, you you can challenge them on this and this. But, I mean, look, I'm not trying to talk myself out of work, but I'm just saying that, you know, if if if they are, you might as well. But anyway, yeah, give me really try the counseling angle. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Alright. Well, you look out and do stuff. No. No. Too. Cheers. 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Alex speaking. It's David. How are you doing, Jeff? Yes.\n\nHow are you going? Sounds good. Yes. He yes. So you're trying to build a and sorry.\n\nIt's a residential build. Is that right? Yeah. And your you you counsel that that's overland. And, essentially, you need to and sorry.\n\nYou've got to model it. Is that right? Oh, okay. What what is it that they've been saying? Sorry.\n\nI'm just trying to so I'm what what I'm assuming has happened is that most of Melbourne has had new flood modeling come into most of Melbourne has done new flood modeling. And, essentially, the new flood modeling is showing a lot of places are floodplain. And so that modeling, I'm assuming, is now over your property. Is that right? Okay.\n\nOkay. So yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.\n\nSorry. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yes.\n\nOkay. Yep. Yep. Yes. Yes.\n\nYep. Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. Interesting.\n\nTwo five? Yeah. Yeah. It's well, essentially, what what you need to demonstrate is that the apex of the to to the entry to the basement is above the flood level. So then I don't know why you would need to do flood modeling if it is above that level.\n\nAnd the Apex needs to be 300 mil above the flood level. Yes. So then what what so what's cancels? I don't I don't fully understand why cancel would be pushy. Yep.\n\nK. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I guess that you've probably got two options then, which is which is, I guess, what Clark has said, which is do the flood modeling and demonstrate it, or a simpler version, which is if you've got survey, just present the survey of the of your your road compared sorry, your house property compared to the the the footpath, and then show that you are above it.\n\nAnd that's that that should be that should be the demonstration of that. If you can demonstrate that and say, if you if the flood level is within like, you've told us, the flood level is within the roadside reserve. The the for past this level, and this is what level we're building it, it means we've got we've achieved the free board that you're worried about. That's that's probably the cheapest way of doing it because that you could do all that yourself. If they yeah.\n\nOh, sorry. Yeah. I guess it's a it's an email. Well, sorry. It's a chat chat with them just or sit down with their council engineers because it'd probably give you a bit of a better idea of exactly what they're worried about.\n\nLook. My expectation is you probably you you council, like I said, can be a little bit apprehensive about accepting it without any modeling. So it's probably why why has said, you we need to do it. I it no. So it's yeah.\n\nSo rain on grid, I'm not sure why you would need to do rain on grid because surely, I I would expect you to be able to grab the flows from also that should reduce the price of the quote. So usually, what I would do is I'd ask counsel for flows without because a rate of approach may basically is is saying they they're doing the hydrology as well, which I don't know why if you can get it for free, why not just get it from Council? And especially because if they're doing the rain on grid hydrology, it means they're knocking in the pit and pipe network look worse for your site. I don't know. It doesn't seem correct to me.\n\nBut but, I mean, obviously, I don't haven't spoken to the engineers, and I don't really know what council wants to will provide. But I guess that's that's what that's probably the thing I'm pro I'd be most nervous about. So I honestly, if if it were me, I'd probably speak to the engineer the council engineer first. Say, look, this is these are the levels that we're dealing with shortly. I mean, it may anyway, we've got we've achieved the free board fine.\n\nThey come back and they no. You need to have five models and them for a flow. 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Look. We I do them every day.\n\nSo I'm yeah. I'm I'm no problem with those whatsoever. I yeah. And if yeah. I mean, look.\n\nIf they got if HAC oh, sorry. If if HAC is still stupidly expensive, I can also just review their quote for you and just be like, you you can challenge them on this and this. But, I mean, look, I'm not trying to talk myself out of work, but I'm just saying that, you know, if if if they are, you might as well. But anyway, yeah, give me really try the counseling angle. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Awesome. Awesome. Alright. Well, you look out and do stuff.\n\nNo. No. Too. Cheers. 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I think my brother, Tim, who works for spoke to you today. Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I'm just trying to suss out what to do with we're trying to build. I'm not really knowledgeable about it. Yeah. Yeah. Residential. Yes. No. Hark Hark has started talking about stuff. They haven't been correct on a lot of things so far, so we're just we're just working out whether we should move because they're just they're saying things that every time it's always wrong. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Yep. Yeah. It actually got put in before then. I've burned out it in 2016, and so they the the new modeling hasn't hit Boroondara yet. So we're still on the old ones, but Boroondara is, I think, one of the early, you know, early adopters of doing their own thing. The the flood stuff is coming out. The we're trying to build a basement. Yeah. And so just to describe it quickly, you know, like, the the Overland flow comes in through that blocks that north to south. It comes in through the Northeast sorry. Yeah. Northeast Corner. And then they're happy that we run the the water down the eastern side of our block. Yeah. And then out on this out onto the eastern, you know, Southeastern corner. The base the the street falls the street falls like, that's the high point of the street, and then it it falls down west towards the west. And it also falls significantly down, down, same as our block, like, you know, north to south. So it's on a downhill slope as the water's coming out. Our basement entrance is at the, like, the far western bound. Like, it's it's essentially close to the western side of it. So it's, like, 15 meters away from where the water would discharge. And there's a big slope, downhill slope there. I would model the with the survey levels using, you know, like, heck RAF or whatever it's called. Yeah. And it shows that it doesn't matter what the flow is. None of it will ever go into the basement. But Hark saying that they wanna do what does she wanna do? 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It comes in through the Northeast sorry. Yeah. Northeast Corner. And then they're happy that we run the the water down the eastern side of our block.\n\nYeah. And then out on this out onto the eastern, you know, Southeastern corner. The base the the street falls the street falls like, that's the high point of the street, and then it it falls down west towards the west. And it also falls significantly down, down, same as our block, like, you know, north to south. So it's on a downhill slope as the water's coming out.\n\nOur basement entrance is at the, like, the far western bound. Like, it's it's essentially close to the western side of it. So it's, like, 15 meters away from where the water would discharge. And there's a big slope, downhill slope there. I would model the with the survey levels using, you know, like, heck RAF or whatever it's called.\n\nYeah. And it shows that it doesn't matter what the flow is. None of it will ever go into the basement. But Hark saying that they wanna do what does she wanna do? The like, the Hark people are saying that they wanna do, you know you know, existing conditions analysis using two flow, brain on grid modeling.\n\nThat would be the only question that we'd really need is, like, we're gonna put it out this east this point. Like, it doesn't it matter what the parts are doing or what the condition of the flood is? Because then there's just a volume out that thing and then see what happens once it hits the straight. Yeah. But it is.\n\nIt's easily above the phone level. Yeah. That's alright. Yeah. Because the yeah.\n\nThe flood, you know, the council hasn't given us the exact things. We'll sort of work backwards from what they've sent us and worked out the the level. Yeah. Like, I think, yeah, I think it is the flood level, it is that much above it. The council the council so I wasn't in this meeting with the council engineer, but apparently, they showed this model where the water is on the footpath in the gutter.\n\nYeah. And then rather than they didn't give us that gutter level, and they wouldn't give us a flood level. They've just used the footpath levels and then added 300 to that, which I think is just they're not not knowing that this the street is on a huge hill. And so they're thinking that it acts like a channel, and then they said, oh, that that's the full plus level plus 300 on that. Yes.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. We already got that. You know, we've we already got the server.\n\nBut yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYep. Yeah. If we have to do two flow, that's like trying to isn't that just trying to get the how much water's coming down? Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.\n\nMay I know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nOf course. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. And the process now.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Have you done much with Boerundar account? Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. I don't know. She keeps telling us she keeps saying, like, the rain's gonna go down your footpath, but it doesn't go down the footpath because it's just life. She won't explain why she thinks it does. We modeled, like, you know, we modeled a wall on the footpath, still goes over that.\n\nYeah. Like, a 100 millimeter wall on the footpath, 50 millimeter wall. Actually, put the power pole falling down 14 meters long, still doesn't go in the Apex. Now what's she got? Anyway Yep.\n\nOkay. Why is that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.\n\nNo. That's fair. Yeah. It's more just to model it for our own. Like, are we just being stupid, or is are they being stupid?\n\nYou know? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Awesome.\n\nCool. Let me start that with them. And if if if counsel isn't happy, and I might get in contact with you to organize a quote for all that stuff if that if you're happy to do. Awesome. That'd be great.\n\nThank you so much, Ali. Yeah. Yeah. No. No.\n\nThat's All day. Thanks, Alex. Yeah. Awesome. I really appreciate that.\n\nAlright. Yeah. Have a great day. Cheers, man. 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Ali.","start":768.11,"end":778.705,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09902984499931336},{"text":"Yeah.","start":791.35,"end":791.59,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.013522490859031676},{"text":"Yeah.","start":791.59,"end":791.91,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.015995781868696213},{"text":"No.","start":791.91,"end":792.07,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.05093184858560562},{"text":"No.","start":792.07,"end":792.23,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06371143460273743}],"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03899862989783287,"num_words":9,"start":768.11,"end":792.23},{"sentences":[{"text":"That's All day.","start":792.23,"end":798.755,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.011370172103246054},{"text":"Thanks, 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Alex speaking. It's David. How\n\nChannel 1: Alex, it's Jack Cain. I think my brother,\n\nChannel 0: are you doing, Jeff?\n\nChannel 1: Tim, who works for spoke to you today.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I'm good. I'm good.\n\nChannel 0: Sounds good.\n\nChannel 1: I'm just trying to suss out what to do with\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: we're trying to build.\n\nChannel 0: He yes.\n\nChannel 1: I'm not\n\nChannel 0: So you're\n\nChannel 1: really\n\nChannel 0: trying\n\nChannel 1: knowledgeable\n\nChannel 0: to build\n\nChannel 1: about\n\nChannel 0: a and sorry. It's a residential build. Is that\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: right?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Residential.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And your you you counsel that that's overland. And, essentially, you need to and sorry. You've got to model it. Is that right?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. No. Hark Hark has started talking about stuff. They haven't been correct on a lot of things so far, so we're just we're just working out whether we should move because they're just they're saying things that every time it's always wrong.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, okay. What what is it that they've been saying? Sorry. I'm just trying to\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. That's\n\nChannel 0: so I'm\n\nChannel 1: fine.\n\nChannel 0: what what I'm assuming has happened is that most of Melbourne has had new flood modeling come into most of Melbourne has done new flood modeling. And, essentially, the new flood modeling is showing a lot of places are floodplain.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And so that modeling, I'm assuming, is now over your property. Is that right?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. It actually got put in before then. I've\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: burned out it in 2016, and so they the the new modeling hasn't hit Boroondara yet.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: we're still on the old ones, but Boroondara is, I think, one of the early, you know, early adopters of doing their own thing.\n\nChannel 0: yes.\n\nChannel 1: The the flood stuff is coming out. The we're trying to build a basement.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And so\n\nChannel 0: Sorry.\n\nChannel 1: just to describe it quickly, you know, like, the the Overland flow comes in through that blocks that north to south.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: It comes in through the Northeast sorry. Yeah. Northeast Corner. And then\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: they're happy that we run the the water down the eastern side of our block.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And then out on this out onto the eastern, you know, Southeastern\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: corner. The base the the street falls the street falls like, that's the high point of the street, and then it it falls down west towards the west. And\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: it also falls significantly down, down, same as our block, like, you know, north to south. So it's on a downhill slope as the water's coming\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: out.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Our basement entrance is at the, like, the far western bound. Like, it's it's essentially close to the western side of it. So it's, like,\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: 15 meters away from where the water would discharge. And there's a big slope, downhill\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: slope there.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: I would model the with the survey levels using, you know, like, heck RAF or whatever it's called.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, yeah. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And it shows that it doesn't matter what the flow is. None of it will ever go into the basement.\n\nChannel 0: Interesting.\n\nChannel 1: But Hark saying that they wanna do what does she wanna do?\n\nChannel 0: Two five?\n\nChannel 1: The like, the Hark people are saying\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: that they wanna do, you know you know, existing conditions analysis using two flow, brain\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: on grid modeling. That would be the only question that we'd really need is, like, we're gonna put it out this east this point. Like, it doesn't it matter what the parts are doing or what the condition of the flood is? Because then there's just a volume out that thing and then see what happens once it hits the straight.\n\nChannel 0: It's well, essentially, what what you need to demonstrate is that the apex of the to to the entry to the basement is above the flood level.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. But it is. It's easily above the phone level.\n\nChannel 0: So then I don't know why you would need to do flood modeling if it is above that level.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And the\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: Apex\n\nChannel 1: alright.\n\nChannel 0: needs to be 300 mil above\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: the flood level.\n\nChannel 1: Because the yeah. The flood, you know, the council hasn't given us the exact things. We'll sort of work backwards from what they've sent us and worked out the the level.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Like, I think, yeah, I think it is the flood level, it is that much above it.\n\nChannel 0: So then what what so what's cancels? I don't I don't fully understand\n\nChannel 1: The\n\nChannel 0: why\n\nChannel 1: council\n\nChannel 0: cancel\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: would be pushy.\n\nChannel 1: council so I wasn't in this meeting with the council engineer, but apparently, they showed this model where the water is on the footpath in the gutter.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And then rather than they didn't give us that gutter level, and they wouldn't give us a flood level. They've just\n\nChannel 0: K.\n\nChannel 1: used the footpath levels\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and then added 300 to that, which I think is just they're not not knowing that this the street is on a huge hill. And so they're thinking that it acts like a channel, and then they said, oh, that that's the full plus level plus 300 on that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay. So I guess that you've probably got two options then, which is which is, I guess, what Clark has said, which is do the flood modeling and demonstrate it, or a simpler version, which is if you've got survey,\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: just present the survey of the of your your road compared sorry, your house property compared to the the the footpath, and then show that you are above it. And that's that that should be that should be the demonstration of that. If you can demonstrate that and say, if you if the flood level is within like, you've told us, the flood level is within the roadside reserve. The the for past this level, and this is what level we're building it, it means we've got we've achieved the free board that you're worried about.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: That's that's probably the cheapest way of doing it because that you could do all that\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: yourself.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. We already got\n\nChannel 0: If\n\nChannel 1: that.\n\nChannel 0: they\n\nChannel 1: You know, we've we already got the server.\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I guess it's a it's an email.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: Well, sorry.\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: It's a chat chat with them just or sit down with their council engineers because\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it'd probably give you a bit of a better idea of exactly what they're worried about. Look.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: My expectation is you probably you you council, like I said, can be a little bit\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: apprehensive about accepting it without any\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: modeling. So it's probably why\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: why has said,\n\nChannel 1: If we have to do\n\nChannel 0: you\n\nChannel 1: two\n\nChannel 0: we need\n\nChannel 1: flow,\n\nChannel 0: to do it.\n\nChannel 1: that's like trying to isn't that just trying to get the how much water's coming down?\n\nChannel 0: I it no. So it's yeah. So rain on grid, I'm not sure why you would need to do rain on grid because surely, I I would expect you to be able to grab the flows from also that should\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: reduce the price of the quote. So usually,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: what I would do is I'd ask counsel for flows without because a rate of approach may basically is is saying they they're doing the hydrology as well, which\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I don't know why if you can get it for free, why not\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: just get it from Council? And especially because if they're doing the rain on grid hydrology, it means they're knocking in the pit and pipe network look\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: worse for your site.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I don't know. It doesn't seem correct\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: to me.\n\nChannel 1: May\n\nChannel 0: But\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: but, I mean, obviously, I don't haven't spoken to the engineers, and I don't\n\nChannel 1: know?\n\nChannel 0: really\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: know what\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: council\n\nChannel 1: Of course.\n\nChannel 0: wants\n\nChannel 1: Of\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: course.\n\nChannel 0: will provide. But\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I guess that's that's what that's probably the thing I'm pro I'd be most nervous about. So I honestly, if if it were me, I'd probably speak to the engineer the council engineer first.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And\n\nChannel 0: Say, look, this is\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: these are the levels\n\nChannel 1: process\n\nChannel 0: that we're dealing with shortly.\n\nChannel 1: now.\n\nChannel 0: I mean,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it may anyway, we've got we've achieved the free board fine. They\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: come back\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: and they no. You need to have five models and them for a flow. Say that you want a hydrograph or a flow rate\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: and then go to Park and say, can you update your quote? We're gonna use this flow rate, and this is and and overland flow, and it should be a bit cheaper.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Have you done much with Boerundar account?\n\nChannel 0: I've done a couple of assessments. I do I said, like, most councils\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: pretty similar. You just need to, I guess, speak to them, kinda rationalize, try to get them on your\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: side instead of\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: unfortunately,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I know how it\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: can sometimes\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: get people off put people offside. So I don't know. Hopefully,\n\nChannel 1: I don't\n\nChannel 0: they\n\nChannel 1: know.\n\nChannel 0: haven't\n\nChannel 1: She\n\nChannel 0: done\n\nChannel 1: keeps\n\nChannel 0: that.\n\nChannel 1: telling\n\nChannel 0: But\n\nChannel 1: us she keeps saying, like, the rain's gonna go down your footpath, but it doesn't go down the footpath because it's just life. She won't explain why she thinks it\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: does.\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: We modeled, like, you know, we modeled\n\nChannel 0: it seems\n\nChannel 1: a wall on the footpath, still goes over that. Yeah. Like, a 100 millimeter wall on the footpath, 50 millimeter wall. Actually, put the power pole falling down 14 meters long, still doesn't go in the Apex. Now what's she got?\n\nAnyway\n\nChannel 0: it is it is a bit strange. Yeah. It doesn't seem so are you sorry. Could you do the hair growth modeling yourself?\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, right. Okay. Alright. So I guess is that so for the councils and Melbourne Water don't accept heck raise anymore.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: It's\n\nChannel 1: Why is that?\n\nChannel 0: which is why\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: so just yeah. I guess up upfront, I don't really I I like that\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: just I think it's brilliant for bridges. For complex\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: flood plains, not the Yeah. If it's demonstrating it's not flooded, then, you know, it's not flooded. You can still get that, but\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I think that will also probably be again. So I guess it's that council will probably have in the back of their mind that other people don't use Hetcras anymore, and they\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: probably don't know how to assess it. So they won't be able to like, they won't\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: help\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you. I'm sorry. That that's probably been a bit too blunt, but\n\nChannel 1: No. No. That's\n\nChannel 0: that's that's\n\nChannel 1: fair.\n\nChannel 0: really what I think.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. It's more just to model it for our own. Like, are we just being stupid, or is are they being stupid? You know?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I'm looking I I just yeah. They just don't know. I think that's probably part of yeah. It's just one of the issues with them that I've had for some time is that they they know enough to be annoying, which is\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: always worse than not knowing anything. At least not knowing anything, you can kinda\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: talk\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: to them and, I don't know, try to get them out of thin. But if they\n\nChannel 1: Awesome.\n\nChannel 0: know enough, but not the right stuff, it gets worse almost.\n\nChannel 1: Cool. Let me\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I look. I think\n\nChannel 1: start\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: with\n\nChannel 0: approach I\n\nChannel 1: them.\n\nChannel 0: would go\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: for.\n\nChannel 1: if if if counsel isn't happy, and I might get in contact with you to organize a quote for all that stuff if that if you're happy\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: It\n\nChannel 1: do.\n\nChannel 0: is.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome. That'd\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: be great.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Thank\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: Look.\n\nChannel 1: so\n\nChannel 0: We I do them every day. So I'm yeah. I'm I'm no problem with those whatsoever. I yeah. And if yeah.\n\nChannel 1: much,\n\nChannel 0: I mean, look. If they got if\n\nChannel 1: Ali.\n\nChannel 0: HAC oh, sorry. If if HAC is still stupidly expensive, I can also just review their quote for you and just be like, you you can challenge them on this and this. But, I mean, look, I'm not trying to talk myself out of work, but I'm just saying that, you know, if\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: if if\n\nChannel 1: No. No.\n\nChannel 0: they\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: are, you might as well. But anyway, yeah, give me\n\nChannel 1: All day.\n\nChannel 0: really\n\nChannel 1: Thanks,\n\nChannel 0: try\n\nChannel 1: Alex.\n\nChannel 0: the counseling angle. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Awesome.\n\nChannel 1: Awesome. I really\n\nChannel 0: Awesome.\n\nChannel 1: appreciate\n\nChannel 0: Alright. Well,\n\nChannel 1: that.\n\nChannel 0: you look out\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: and do stuff.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Have a great day.\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: Cheers,\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: man. Bye.\n\nChannel 0: Too. Cheers. 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And then rather than they didn't give us that gutter level, and they wouldn't give us a flood level. They've just K. used the footpath levels Yeah. and then added 300 to that, which I think is just they're not not knowing that this the street is on a huge hill. And so they're thinking that it acts like a channel, and then they said, oh, that that's the full plus level plus 300 on that. Yeah. Okay. So I guess that you've probably got two options then, which is which is, I guess, what Clark has said, which is do the flood modeling and demonstrate it, or a simpler version, which is if you've got survey, Yes. just present the survey of the of your your road compared sorry, your house property compared to the the the footpath, and then show that you are above it. And that's that that should be that should be the demonstration of that. If you can demonstrate that and say, if you if the flood level is within like, you've told us, the flood level is within the roadside reserve. The the for past this level, and this is what level we're building it, it means we've got we've achieved the free board that you're worried about. Yeah. That's that's probably the cheapest way of doing it because that you could do all that Yeah. yourself. Yeah. We already got If that. they You know, we've we already got the server. yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I guess it's a it's an email. But Well, sorry. yeah. It's a chat chat with them just or sit down with their council engineers because Yeah. it'd probably give you a bit of a better idea of exactly what they're worried about. Look. Yeah. My expectation is you probably you you council, like I said, can be a little bit Yeah.","start_word":753,"end_word":1095,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03936564648637966},{"text":"apprehensive about accepting it without any Yeah.","start_word":1096,"end_word":1102,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.41179704666137695},{"text":"modeling. So it's probably why Yep. Yeah. why has said, If we have to do you we two need flow, to do it. that's like trying to isn't that just trying to get the how much water's coming down? I it no. So it's yeah. So rain on grid, I'm not sure why you would need to do rain on grid because surely, I I would expect you to be able to grab the flows from also that should Yeah. reduce the price of the quote. So usually, Yeah. what I would do is I'd ask counsel for flows without because a rate of approach may basically is is saying they they're doing the hydrology as well, which Yeah. I don't know why if you can get it for free, why not Yeah. just get it from Council? And especially because if they're doing the rain on grid hydrology, it means they're knocking in the pit and pipe network look Yeah.","start_word":1103,"end_word":1263,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.07232634723186493},{"text":"worse for your site.","start_word":1264,"end_word":1267,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5342893600463867},{"text":"Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't seem correct Okay. to me. May But I but, I mean, obviously, I don't haven't spoken to the engineers, and I don't know? really Yeah. Yeah. know what Yeah. Yeah. council Of course. wants Of to course. will provide. But Yeah. I guess that's that's what that's probably the thing I'm pro I'd be most nervous about. So I honestly, if if it were me, I'd probably speak to the engineer the council engineer first. Yeah. And Say, look, this is the these are the levels process that we're dealing with shortly. now. I mean, Yeah. it may anyway, we've got we've achieved the free board fine. They Yeah. come back Yeah. and they no. You need to have five models and them for a flow. Say that you want a hydrograph or a flow rate Yeah. Yeah. and then go to Park and say, can you update your quote? We're gonna use this flow rate, and this is and and overland flow, and it should be a bit cheaper. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Have you done much with Boerundar account? I've done a couple of assessments. I do I said, like, most councils Yeah. Yeah. pretty similar. You just need to, I guess, speak to them, kinda rationalize, try to get them on your Yeah. side instead of Yeah. unfortunately, Yeah. I know how it Yeah. can sometimes Yeah. get people off put people offside. So I don't know. Hopefully, I don't they know. haven't She done keeps that. telling But us she keeps saying, like, the rain's gonna go down your footpath, but it doesn't go down the footpath because it's just life. She won't explain why she thinks it Yeah. does. I We modeled, like, you know, we modeled it seems a wall on the footpath, still goes over that. Yeah. Like, a 100 millimeter wall on the footpath, 50 millimeter wall. Actually, put the power pole falling down 14 meters long, still doesn't go in the Apex. Now what's she got? Anyway it is it is a bit strange. Yeah. It doesn't seem so are you sorry. Could you do the hair growth modeling yourself? Yep. Oh, right. Okay. Alright. So I guess is that so for the councils and Melbourne Water don't accept heck raise anymore. Okay. It's Why is that? which is why Yeah. so just yeah. I guess up upfront, I don't really I I like that Yeah.","start_word":1268,"end_word":1678,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06712275109913228},{"text":"just I think it's brilliant for bridges.","start_word":1679,"end_word":1685,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3632437288761139},{"text":"For complex Yeah. flood plains, not the Yeah. If it's demonstrating it's not flooded, then, you know, it's not flooded. You can still get that, but Yeah. I think that will also probably be again. So I guess it's that council will probably have in the back of their mind that other people don't use Hetcras anymore, and they Yeah. probably don't know how to assess it. So they won't be able to like, they won't Yeah. help Yeah. you. I'm sorry. That that's probably been a bit too blunt, but No. No. That's that's that's fair. really what I think. Yeah. It's more just to model it for our own. Like, are we just being stupid, or is are they being stupid? You know? Yeah. I'm looking I I just yeah. They just don't know. I think that's probably part of yeah. It's just one of the issues with them that I've had for some time is that they they know enough to be annoying, which is Yeah. always worse than not knowing anything. At least not knowing anything, you can kinda Yeah. talk Alright. to them and, I don't know, try to get them out of thin. But if they Awesome.","start_word":1686,"end_word":1888,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1112304755803106},{"text":"know enough, but not the right stuff, it gets worse almost.","start_word":1889,"end_word":1899,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3495275378227234},{"text":"Cool. Let me Yeah. I look. I think start that's that the with approach I them. would go And for. if if if counsel isn't happy, and I might get in contact with you to organize a quote for all that stuff if that if you're happy Yeah. to It do. is.","start_word":1900,"end_word":1951,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.01122022233903408},{"text":"Awesome. That'd Absolutely. be great.","start_word":1952,"end_word":1956,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3527677059173584},{"text":"Yeah. Yeah. Thank Yeah. you Look. so We I do them every day. So I'm yeah. I'm I'm no problem with those whatsoever. I yeah. And if yeah. much, I mean, look. If they got if Ali. HAC oh, sorry. If if HAC is still stupidly expensive, I can also just review their quote for you and just be like, you you can challenge them on this and this. But, I mean, look, I'm not trying to talk myself out of work, but I'm just saying that, you know, if Yeah. Yeah. if if No. No. they That's are, you might as well. But anyway, yeah, give me All day. really Thanks, try Alex. the counseling angle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.","start_word":1957,"end_word":2076,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.026811746880412105},{"text":"Awesome. Awesome. I really Awesome. appreciate Alright.","start_word":2077,"end_word":2083,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4656006693840027},{"text":"Well, that. you look out Alright. and do stuff. Yeah.","start_word":2084,"end_word":2093,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2076560854911804},{"text":"Have a great day.","start_word":2094,"end_word":2097,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7192821502685547},{"text":"No. Cheers, No. man. Bye. Too. Cheers. Bye.","start_word":2098,"end_word":2105,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0236368291079998}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.02374584468330924}}}}