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Yes. Yes. And and the the point behind that is, for example, if there was someone who brought their pets on, the flood came, and they were stuck and they had a heart attack, how could anyone essentially access them? And so it because it's 1.8 meters of flood depth, sorry, an ambulance won't be getting through, neither would a neither would an or realistically anything drivable. So that they would need to show that you either have evacuated long before the floods come or that there's an alternative route or that there's provisions on-site or whatever it is, but that's the risk management plan that look. My gut is they'll still require it. I don't know why they said they may not. If it's a shorter duration flood, then maybe we can not have to do it. But I think my expectation is that they're going to say, no. You have to do it. I'm just I'm surprised that the way that the the language they use sounds more unlikely that you have to do it. And so hence the reason why I think with the quote, we can have it as an optional. And then if they do say you have to do it, then at least you've you've got the whole quote in front of you. Okay. Perfect. Yes. Yes. Yes. We we need all the information from them. So I I would need them to provide as much as they possibly could before I before we could even progress. Well, that's right. Exactly. Just to clarify. Yes. Okay. Sure. Okay. Well, thankfully, the person who's I actually know Senget, who's the person who wrote the the letter, so I'll be able to speak to I I've got him on I've got his mobile, which usually isn't particularly easy, so I would yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well yes. And and I guess look. Even with what he has to say, I know there's at least part of it I can do absolutely. The the the second part, which is the flood emergency response plan, is the one that I will be pushing to say that why is that necessary, I guess. How can we not do this? And and yes. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. That's right. That's right. Look. It's still even with I I guess the one thing I would say is even with even if we do need to do both, it's still cheaper than flood modeling, I guess, is the good thing. So so in in general, it's still probably a pretty no. The yeah. The way that they've said I I look. I was surprised initially, but I had to read read through it, and then I did a little bit of research on what the last one of those was. And it it's essentially just making sure it's a data review. So it's reviewing all the planning protocols and comparing that against what is being proposed and then using their maps to decide where the flood level is and the flood depth and everything like that, and then comparing that against the guidelines as opposed to running a model ourselves, which I I think is great. I'm glad Melbourne would have said that because it's it's you know, a flood model ourselves, we're talking 15,000 rather than four. It's it's a it's a it's a pretty big difference in cost. You know? So and and, again, a flood response plan is typically anywhere between six and eight, but with this area, it should be a little bit cheaper because there is information for the waterway. So, yeah, I guess it is. It it's I'm glad that it's not flood modeling, but I would probably I'd send out the quote, and then I'd make sure to clarify everything first just so that we're a 100. But they would have said explicitly, hi. Find a hydraulic engineer and do a flood model, and they haven't at all. They've said a flood statement. So Yes. I I think it's an approval. I actually I genuinely think that they're not going to they're not gonna have a problem with this development because otherwise, they would have said explicitly. I think they would have been much more harsh on their letter. Their letter was nowhere near as harsh as my expectation. So I actually think it would it's but it's just basically doing the flood statement and then potentially a flood risk management plan, but that that seems to be acceptable because you're not proposing people living there. If it was living there, I would say they would have objected immediately, but not in this case. So I I I'd be very confident that you'd get an approval from Melbourne Water. That's yes. You would. Because in order to challenge that, we would have to build a flood model and then model the whole area, and it may very well be the exact same level that they've got. So you might spend all that money just to find out that you're at the exact same spot, and I would probably I'd recommend not doing that. Sure. That's yep. Absolutely. Yep. Will do. Alright. No. No worries at all. I'll it might be tomorrow to get the quote out. Sorry. I I I I gotta give that by the end of the day, but okay. Brilliant. Thank you very much. Alright. I'll speak to you soon. Bye. 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Speaking. It's Debbie with Hilton. Yes. How are you going?\n\nGood. I I'm assuming you've got my email return. Yes. Okay. Yes.\n\nOkay. Yes. That's exactly right. That's that's exactly right. Yes.\n\nYes. And and the the point behind that is, for example, if there was someone who brought their pets on, the flood came, and they were stuck and they had a heart attack, how could anyone essentially access them? And so it because it's 1.8 meters of flood depth, sorry, an ambulance won't be getting through, neither would a neither would an or realistically anything drivable. So that they would need to show that you either have evacuated long before the floods come or that there's an alternative route or that there's provisions on-site or whatever it is, but that's the risk management plan that look. My gut is they'll still require it.\n\nI don't know why they said they may not. If it's a shorter duration flood, then maybe we can not have to do it. 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Even with what he has to say, I know there's at least part of it I can do absolutely. The the the second part, which is the flood emergency response plan, is the one that I will be pushing to say that why is that necessary, I guess. How can we not do this? And and yes.\n\nThat's right. Exactly. Exactly. That's right. That's right.\n\nLook. It's still even with I I guess the one thing I would say is even with even if we do need to do both, it's still cheaper than flood modeling, I guess, is the good thing. So so in in general, it's still probably a pretty no. The yeah. The way that they've said I I look.\n\nI was surprised initially, but I had to read read through it, and then I did a little bit of research on what the last one of those was. And it it's essentially just making sure it's a data review. 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But they would have said explicitly, hi.\n\nFind a hydraulic engineer and do a flood model, and they haven't at all. They've said a flood statement. So Yes. I I think it's an approval. I actually I genuinely think that they're not going to they're not gonna have a problem with this development because otherwise, they would have said explicitly.\n\nI think they would have been much more harsh on their letter. Their letter was nowhere near as harsh as my expectation. So I actually think it would it's but it's just basically doing the flood statement and then potentially a flood risk management plan, but that that seems to be acceptable because you're not proposing people living there. If it was living there, I would say they would have objected immediately, but not in this case. So I I I'd be very confident that you'd get an approval from Melbourne Water.\n\nThat's yes. You would. Because in order to challenge that, we would have to build a flood model and then model the whole area, and it may very well be the exact same level that they've got. So you might spend all that money just to find out that you're at the exact same spot, and I would probably I'd recommend not doing that. Sure.\n\nThat's yep. Absolutely. Yep. Will do. Alright.\n\nNo. No worries at all. I'll it might be tomorrow to get the quote out. Sorry. I I I I gotta give that by the end of the day, but okay.\n\nBrilliant. Thank you very much. Alright. I'll speak to you soon. 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It's Catherine Hyde calling from Advanced Vetcare. Good. How are you? Yes. And I have read it. And that's that's pretty much exactly how I sort of am mapping the whole thing. That's what you said in my simplistic world. But are you saying just one I was actually just writing back to you, and I thought, no. You you've caught me on the one of your last sentences. Do you think that they're going to make want a management plan just because even if we'd lift the floor, if there's a flood, we still gotta get there. It's all very well that it I mean, yeah, we I mean, we're all now on the island. We gotta get off the island. Yes. Okay. So could you please there's no point in me putting this forward to the team without a number. So if I could have some if I can have a quote, please, for liaising with Melbourne Water? Because it sounds like that's the first thing you're gonna do is pick up the phone. Yes? And say, okay. And then yes. And also explain me explain me later a little bit better than more than what we have now. Yes. Because we we've had no contact with him at all on purpose other than this came from Daniel Melbourne City Council to UPCO who are planning consultants and sent to us. Okay? Right. So you would call him and go, mate, what's going on? What what's your story? Okay. So and you will you you obviously don't want me to do that until you're in if unless we engage you. So Yes. Right. Other than having a a rubber ducky ready to go, you know. You know, so that we can get the person with the heart attack or the dog or whatever. Yeah. Okay. Alright. So it's interesting. You say you don't we don't need flood modeling. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. No. They haven't. Yes. Yes. They haven't. And they just no. We they haven't. Now and also just in your quote is your view on if we do accept the raising of the floor, you know, what are our chances? And I guess that could be your question. Okay. And by by accepting the raising of the floor, if we were to challenge that, then we would have a a bigger fight on our hands. Is that right? Yes. Yes. K. Could you put that in your quote too? That if we were to challenge that, that you would imagine we need a flood model, and this is what it would cost. Yep. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. Okay then. Okay. Bye. Yeah. That that's fine. No. No problem. Thank okay. 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It's Catherine Hyde calling from Advanced Vetcare. Good. How are you? Yes.\n\nAnd I have read it. And that's that's pretty much exactly how I sort of am mapping the whole thing. That's what you said in my simplistic world. But are you saying just one I was actually just writing back to you, and I thought, no. You you've caught me on the one of your last sentences.\n\nDo you think that they're going to make want a management plan just because even if we'd lift the floor, if there's a flood, we still gotta get there. It's all very well that it I mean, yeah, we I mean, we're all now on the island. We gotta get off the island. Yes. Okay.\n\nSo could you please there's no point in me putting this forward to the team without a number. So if I could have some if I can have a quote, please, for liaising with Melbourne Water? Because it sounds like that's the first thing you're gonna do is pick up the phone. Yes? And say, okay.\n\nAnd then yes. 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Speaking. It's Debbie with Hilton.\n\nChannel 1: Hi, Alex. It's Catherine Hyde calling from Advanced Vetcare.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. How are you going?\n\nChannel 1: Good. How are you?\n\nChannel 0: Good. I I'm assuming you've got my email return.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. And I have read it. And that's that's pretty much exactly how I sort of am mapping the whole thing. That's\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: what\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: you said\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: in my simplistic world. But are you saying just one I was actually just writing back to you, and I thought, no. You you've caught me on the one of your last sentences.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Do you think that they're going to make want a management plan just because even if we'd lift the floor, if there's a flood, we still gotta get there.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. That's exactly right. That's that's\n\nChannel 1: It's all\n\nChannel 0: exactly\n\nChannel 1: very well\n\nChannel 0: right.\n\nChannel 1: that it I mean, yeah, we I mean, we're all now on the island. We gotta\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: get off the island. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Yes. And and the the point behind that is, for example, if there was someone who brought their pets on, the flood came, and they were stuck and they had a heart attack, how could anyone essentially access them? And so it because it's 1.8 meters of flood depth, sorry, an ambulance won't be getting through, neither would a neither would an or realistically anything drivable. So that they would need to show that you either have evacuated long before the floods come or that there's an alternative route or that there's provisions on-site or whatever it is, but that's the risk management plan that look. My gut is they'll still require it.\n\nI don't know why they said they may not. If it's a shorter duration flood, then maybe we can not have to do it. But I think my expectation is that they're going to say, no. You have to do it. I'm just I'm surprised that the way that the the language they use sounds more unlikely that you have to do it.\n\nAnd so hence the reason why I think with the quote, we can have it as an optional. And then if they do say you have to do it, then at least you've you've got the whole quote in front of you.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. So could you please there's no point in me putting this forward to the team without a number.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: if I could have some if I can have a quote, please, for liaising with Melbourne Water? Because it sounds like that's the first thing you're gonna do is pick up the phone. Yes?\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yes.\n\nChannel 1: And say, okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: We we need\n\nChannel 1: then\n\nChannel 0: all the information from them. So I\n\nChannel 1: yes.\n\nChannel 0: I would need them to provide as much as they possibly could before I before\n\nChannel 1: And also\n\nChannel 0: we could\n\nChannel 1: explain\n\nChannel 0: even progress.\n\nChannel 1: me explain me later a little bit better than more than what we have now. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Well, that's right. Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: Because we\n\nChannel 0: Just\n\nChannel 1: we've\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: had no contact\n\nChannel 0: clarify.\n\nChannel 1: with him at all on purpose other\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: than\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: this came from Daniel Melbourne City Council to UPCO who are planning consultants and sent to us.\n\nChannel 0: Sure. Okay.\n\nChannel 1: Okay?\n\nChannel 0: Well, thankfully, the person who's I actually know Senget, who's the person who wrote the the letter, so I'll be able to speak to I I've got him on I've got his mobile, which usually\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: isn't\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: particularly\n\nChannel 1: you would\n\nChannel 0: easy,\n\nChannel 1: call him\n\nChannel 0: so\n\nChannel 1: and go, mate,\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: what's\n\nChannel 0: would\n\nChannel 1: going on?\n\nChannel 0: yes.\n\nChannel 1: What what's your story? Okay. So and you will you you obviously don't want me to do that until you're in if unless we engage you.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: Oh, yeah. Well yes. And and I guess look. Even with what he has to say, I know there's at least part of it I can do absolutely. The the the second part, which is the flood emergency response plan, is the one that I will be pushing to say that why is that necessary, I guess.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: How can we not do this? And and\n\nChannel 1: Right.\n\nChannel 0: yes.\n\nChannel 1: Other than having a a rubber ducky ready to go,\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: you know.\n\nChannel 0: right. Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: You know, so that we can get the person with the\n\nChannel 0: Exactly.\n\nChannel 1: heart attack or the dog or whatever. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: right. That's right. Look.\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: It's still even with I I guess the one thing I would say is even with even if we do need to do both, it's still cheaper than flood modeling, I guess, is the good thing. So so in in general, it's still\n\nChannel 1: So it's\n\nChannel 0: probably\n\nChannel 1: interesting.\n\nChannel 0: a pretty\n\nChannel 1: You say you don't we don't need flood modeling.\n\nChannel 0: no. The yeah. The way that they've said I I look. I was surprised initially, but I had to read read through it, and then I did a little bit of research on what the last one of those was. And it it's essentially just making sure it's a data review.\n\nSo it's reviewing all the planning protocols and comparing that against what is being proposed and then using their maps to decide where the flood level is and the flood depth and everything like that, and then comparing that against the guidelines as opposed to running a model ourselves, which I I\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: think is great. I'm glad Melbourne would have said that because it's it's you know, a flood model ourselves, we're talking 15,000 rather than four. It's it's a it's a it's a pretty big difference\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: in cost. You know? So and and, again, a flood response plan is typically anywhere between six and eight, but with this area, it should be a little bit cheaper because there is information for\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: the waterway. So, yeah, I guess it is. It it's I'm glad that it's not flood modeling, but I would probably I'd send out the quote, and then I'd\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: make sure to clarify everything first just so that we're a 100. But they would have said explicitly, hi. Find a hydraulic engineer and do a flood model, and they haven't at all. They've said\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: a flood\n\nChannel 1: They haven't.\n\nChannel 0: statement.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yes. They haven't. And\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: they just no. We they haven't. 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And by by accepting the raising of the floor, if we were to challenge\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: that, then we would have a a bigger fight on our hands. Is that right?\n\nChannel 0: yes. You would. Because in order to challenge that, we would have to build a flood model and then model the whole area, and it may very well be the exact same level that they've got.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: So you\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: might spend all that money just to find out that you're at the exact same spot, and I would probably\n\nChannel 1: K.\n\nChannel 0: I'd recommend not doing that.\n\nChannel 1: Could you put that in your quote too? That if we were to challenge that, that you would imagine we\n\nChannel 0: Sure.\n\nChannel 1: need a flood model, and this is what it\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: would\n\nChannel 0: yep. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: cost. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Will do.\n\nChannel 1: Great. Thank you so much.\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Okay then.\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: No worries\n\nChannel 1: Bye.\n\nChannel 0: at all. I'll it might be tomorrow to get the quote out.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Sorry.\n\nChannel 1: That\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: that's\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: fine.\n\nChannel 0: I I gotta give that by the end of the day, but okay. Brilliant.\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: Thank you\n\nChannel 1: No\n\nChannel 0: very\n\nChannel 1: problem.\n\nChannel 0: much. Alright. I'll speak to\n\nChannel 1: Thank\n\nChannel 0: you soon. 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