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Well, thank you for spending a bit of time with me. Fantastic. Fantastic. Well, am I on speakerphone? Can I say hi to Natasha? How are you doing, Tash? How you been? I'm not actually in Google Meet at the moment. I was just giving you guys a quick phone call. Do you want me to jump on on there now? I can switch across. Yeah. Cool. Well, while I've got you guys, I just wanted to have a bit of an introductory chat and get a bit of an idea of what's going on because you're in a very interesting situation, if I if I may say so myself. Yep. Did it? What happened? Okay. Right. So you might have something to sort of tie you over for a few years between now and when you go overseas. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And that's just your home in Kingaroy? Okay. What ideas did you guys come up with, if you don't mind me asking? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All of the arm's length rules and all the fun regulations around it. Right? Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. That's an interesting idea. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's just from your your personal assets, not not counting anything in the self managed super funds. Right? That's the US stocks. Yeah. Right. Okay. So let me get a bit of a lay of the land then because I I thought it was a bit more kind of clean-cut split between that. So you've got the the three cell phone and super funds. You don't have any kind of standard super accounts floating around outside it as a satellite, do you? Perfect. Alright. So I'm just gonna do a bit of an asset breakdown for a second, and I might even get a bit of information from you guys after this. But you've got the three. One of them is joint. Two of them are solo. K. Do you guys have one H solo, or are they both underused, Steve? One h. Okay. So you've got one H, one joint. So the joint one, that's where you've got the Harvey Bay property. Okay. What's the value in owing on that one? Yep. Yep. K. So you're a little bit there with a bit of a loan attached to it, and that one's got a bit of US stocks as well. And that's the dividends just coming straight in to that cash account. Both of your contributions go in there? Contribution funds. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. So with the the account structure, you've obviously got a bank account that's flowing through all of the rents and payments and dividends and everything. To purchase The US stocks, did you just go through a brokerage account? Like, did you set up a Comsec, or what what platform are you using? CMC. Yeah. For the stock purchases. And what's the value of the stocks in in that SMSF? Yep. K. So nothing too crazy there. Just a little bit that's well, I guess you're investing the excess from the contributions. Right? Whatever's not been used for the property is just kind of buying into a few stocks. Yeah. Yeah. And the contributions are kind of holding that up at the moment. Yep. Yeah. So when it comes to The US shares, one of the things that I'm kind of worried about at the moment with a lot of clients is the exchange rate between US dollars and Australian dollars. So you've got to be really careful there. It's taken a bit of a dive since January 2025. So even if you were trying to sell them, your exchange getting them across into the country is gonna chop a bit off of your returns too. Yeah. So it's one of the things where timing is gonna be big for that one, for when you sell those or if you just use them for dividends. K. And with the other two SMSFs, what's what's in those? Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's currently sitting at $2.50 at the moment. K. That's a bit rough. You're in a bit of a bit of a spot there where you've got all these assets tied up, but not really much wiggle room to do anything with them. Yeah. And, Tash, what about your SMSF? Is that similar in US stocks, or what's that invested in? Yep. Yep. Okay. So that'll be crystallizing quite a bit of losses to do anything with those at this point. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. I get you. So that's a bit painful. Does that mean you guys have three different trust set up, and are you just individual trustees for these? So joint on one, you're not using any companies or anything? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. For the property? Yeah. Because you'd need that for that the loan for the property. So, technically, you're floating around with essentially four trusts and four trustees, really. Yeah. Two for the joint one and then one each for the solo. That must be costing you guys a bit in audit fees and tax returns, wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah. That's the painful part because it would be really ideal to even be able to offset like, let's say you were to sell that Harvey Bay property, being able to offset those gains with the losses from the shares would be really good, but I'm not actually certain whether you could actually get the shares across without crystallizing a CGT event. I'm not have you checked into that so far? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. It's kind of it's gotten you that leg up into that next position, allow you to borrow, get on to that next asset, and they're kind of offsetting each other just in terms of growth, I guess. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So one thing that may be a bit of an accounting trick that I would want to look into for you guys is whether you can do an in specie transfer of your US stocks from one SMSF to the other where it can kind of be captured between trustee to trustee, and then you've got the ability to have that option to sell them and offset within that one if you want to. So it's I think it's possible because the the last time I I tried doing this a few years ago, I had someone who was trying to get the shares into super. So once you have that change of beneficial ownership, you trigger your CGT event, you kind of upshits creek if you don't mind me saying. But if it's already in super, I have seen self funded super funds or even other platforms capture shares and in specie transfer them across. It just took a lot of paperwork to do the cost base to actually do that transfer. So that's one possibility to try and get the three into the one. I I would definitely investigate it. Yeah. Correct. Because it's one member's trustee to another member's trustee. Because it's it's under your name as a member. It's your asset. So if you move your asset into an SMSF or change of trustees, let's say you own two super funds, you're essentially rolling over funds between one of your super funds to another. They are supposed to, with the accounting, keep your assets separate and accounted for underneath. Yeah. Inspecie transfer. Yeah. It's I n s p e c I e, in spaCy transfer. And it's also yeah. It's a bit more painful for the platform side of things because I used a lot of Macquarie for self managed super funds, and they're very good for those in spaCy transfers, and they they tend to use because it's a wrap platform. They were actually created to wrap people's individual assets together. So you were able to basically capture anything that they had on menu or available within the funds. So that's even switching to a platform might be possible where you could even set up, like, a platform account and potentially grab everything across from CMC or state as well. Yeah. Okay. So one of the things that may be worth doing is it's just an option is maybe a Macquarie rep account may be beneficial to kind of pull all of those assets together. The forms to to do those cost bases, they can take a little bit of time and accounting to do it, but it's an option there. If we wanna get it all into one and have this flexibility to offset the losses and gains, maybe worth just having a linked up Macquarie Bank account with a Macquarie investment account. You just be you have to be careful which one you pick because they've got three. One of them is very good for having lots of different individual holdings in terms of fakes, and some of the other ones are a bit more if you have one investment option. So it's just about getting the right one as well. Yeah. The other option is that if you wait until you hit your retirement phase and you sell them off with the sort of pension phase, you don't have to pay CGT there. It'll be tax free. But if you're kind of joint owning the asset, you'd both wanna be above 60 for that. Do it at the same time. That's right. Because, Natasha, you're nineteen seventy, aren't you? Yeah. K. So it's one of those things about the short term strategy is either you hold on to it until you're both able to retire. And and, honestly, that that job that you're mentioning, to be able to tie over for an extra couple of years might be a bit of a blessing. Because if you can just hold on to everything until you can both hit pension phase, You can just roll it all across, avoid the CGT issues. Hopefully, the stocks have bounced back by then, and then you can transition all these assets into a bit of a pension phase. Even if you change them then into something a bit safer to live off, you might be better off doing that, or the short term is trying to get all of this sold and moved around now. Yeah. Yep. So it would be really interesting If you can potentially get them all together, then at least if it's all in the one SMSF, you can still hold on to all of them until pension phase or decide to sell small amounts if you need to? Like, at least you can choose whether it's some, all partial, and and so on. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing is once you get to that late fifties, high income earning, you're pretty much in the worst bracket for copying tax from all angles. All of your your hard earned assets, your your income level, everything cops it. You're in the kind of wrong end of town for the tax side, unfortunately. Yeah. Absolutely. So yeah. You got those people who have the businesses and things like that that have more tax breaks, or you've got people at the lower end of town who get all the concessions, and you're in that you know, they call you the the mega rich, but you're not, but they put you in that same category to copy you with the taxes. Yeah. I'm with you. And there, the most attractive thing is the super because you'll be able to access it pretty soon if you needed to even if you were doing a transition to retirement. So you can get a little bit extra in there, have the ability to draw a bit of it back out if you needed to. Okay. Yep. Yeah. It's that sequencing risk that happens at this age too where one of those global events happens and all of a sudden you're you're faced with, I guess, waiting a number of years for things to clear out. And the question is how long can you hold on for for it to recover and and get what you need. Luckily, like you said, you got that property there, so at least there's some assets to draw from. And the income side Yeah. It'd be nice to have the full value of the shares that you had just to borrow off of those in the SMSFs. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. And like you said, if it's sitting at $8.50, it's pretty good. And then you've got the increase in the other one. It's not looking too bad. So let me ask you guys this then. When it comes to the self funded super funds, do you want me to investigate a way to kind of tie it together and see what the options are there, at least so you can know with some certainty? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The auditing fees, tax returns, which parcels have gone into what. Yeah. So that'll be my main thing then is I'll investigate that for you guys. If there's something where it's just a real simple yes or no, I'll let you know straight away. If there's a way that we can kind of do an overall tightening and cleanup as you lead into retirement, then we'll kind of proceed through the advice process and and go through that route, and I'll just kind of help pull it all together for you guys. So you seem pretty confident in your investing side of things. Do you want any suggestions on investment options, or you really just wanna simplify the structure? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the type of things that I was sort of leaning towards is as you as you enter into that transition to retirement age bracket, do you wanna put together some sort of a little bit more conservative portfolio where you just diversify a bit, have a bit of metals in there, a bit of gold and silver, a bit of high interest, fixed interest options there too? Because, like, as an example, if you were to utilize a a wrap platform like Macquarie to hold the shares, you then got access to all those managed funds and ETFs as well. And if you wanted to put a bit into gold, I've been into some high high yielding fixed interest where you're getting 6% somewhat guaranteed, you can kind of just fix up your asset allocation a little bit as well. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. No. No. I understand. Congratulations. There you go. A bit of a side hustle going on. That's fantastic. Oh, look. I'm not gonna lie. This is one of the most exotic setups I've ever seen when it comes to retirement planning, so I love it. I'm here for it. Yeah. Yeah. That too. Absolutely. So what I'll do is just to keep it nice and easy for you guys, Tash, if you're comfortable to reach out to to stake and see if you can do that in specie transfer, that kind of that'll help because that simplifies everything. I'll investigate on the Macquarie side and see if you need to use a platform for it. And then, like, if you if you can do it with your your current platforms and even if CMC would offer taking over those, like, if they will let you do it and bring it across, that might be good too. So if you guys can investigate that side, I'll contact the Macquarie BDMs and figure out a few options for you as a bit of a plan b. How's that sound? Cool. So Yeah. Go for it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see what you mean. It's a bit of a split where the redundancy picks you up quite high, but only that baseline is copying the tax, but you're still in that bracket anyway. Okay. What I might do then just to take a quick step back is let me just go through a couple of details with you guys, and that way I can I've got a clear picture in my mind. So, Steve, what's the current salary? So it's about the $1.50 mark at the moment. Yep. Okay. Okay, sir. That $1.66 is a package. And this other job that you're looking at is possibly starting you off as a manufacturing manager at $1.75? K. And the site lady you think could go upwards of 200? Perfect. K. When will you find out about the redundancies, Steve? Okay. Yeah. Absolutely. And so is Melinda the employer? Vega. As in bigger stringers? Cheese? Yep. Perfect. Perfect. What about your side of things, Tash? How much has has Luke got you on? I'm I'm not sure what your specific role and income is at the moment. I won't I won't bring you into the conversation, but of course, he's got you under 6 figures. No worries. Fair enough. 95 there. And you're doing, like, the the credit analyst side of things or bookkeeping and accounting. That's it. Bookkeeping and accounting. What about okay. So in terms of, like, goals for you guys, you've got a lot of different assets with the the house and the shares generating income sort of things. When you go overseas, you sell off and you move overseas, what what country are you guys going to? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. Yeah. You might do a bit of a partial retirement for a while. Wow. That'd be fun. That's kind of working from home enhanced. It's just, you know, overseas working holiday almost. Cool. Yeah. Steve is old school, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I was actually yeah. Ollie helped me do my refinance just recently. I think he might be Croatian, similar to to my family, I think. Oh, yeah. I cop it all the time. People all the time saying, are you Serbian? I was like, you can't say that. That just starts to fight and a brawl at the soccer match with some flares and things like that. Pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah. As in, like, sort of like a yep. Good day. Kind of thing. Yep. Absolutely. No. I am still I decided to have a few kids instead, so I'm still planning my trip to Croatia with the family. Yeah. So it's kind of delayed things for a few years, so that's next on my bucket list is to go over there and see the family. Okay. Perfect. So what I might do too, I just wanted to ask you guys, like, in terms of obviously, even if you're doing a bit of work from The Philippines, have you got a figure of, like, the yearly income you're gonna wanna have when you finally kind of both hang up the boots? Yeah. Yeah. Right. So technically, 7,000 to 10,000 a month combined from the super and maybe a bit of part time work and some side hustles, and you guys should be okay. Who knows? It might come in in the right time. Might come in at the right time. It may just sort of kick off right when you need it. Who knows? Yeah. And what did you say, Steve? It's more size than hustle at the moment. Not yet. Cool. Guys, I might just a t shirt or will I get a photo of this, or do I get a few different choices? Yeah. You know what you should do, if you could for me, is part of the process is we do certified ID, and we usually get the clients to take a photo, bit of a selfie with the license there as well. If you can wear one of those shirts when you do it, I'd appreciate that. Perfect. Perfect. So Yeah. Test them out a little bit, see how they go in the wash. Yeah. Can't see why not. If they're the mates. Absolutely. Steve. Not on TikTok, are you? TikTok and YouTube. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Oh, awesome. Yeah. I found the armchair amigos travel gurus. I'll have a little bit of a look at that when I get home. Absolutely. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe. Don't worry. So fantastic. So I've got a baby on the way into the lullabies. Yeah. Do you look back and sort of cringe a little bit, do you? I guess it's all just trial and error. Right? Similar with the shirts. Actually, speaking of careers, I forgot to ask you before. For Vega, what's your your current role, Steve? Supply chain manager. That's right. I've got the the next roles, but Scott actually asked you that one. You're on. Been everywhere. Just like that TV Fair enough. Fair enough. Guys, I'm just gonna grab a couple more details before I let you dart off for Ace of there. Would you be okay to I'll I'll do that investigation with Macquarie first, but would you be okay to send through some of the, like, the trust deeds and company constitutions for the SMSF at some point as well? Well, it'll have to be for all three because if I'm gonna advise a possible three to one kind of cleanup, I I just wanna make sure I can identify all the funds and everything, Trustees, trust owners, members, and so on. And maybe a couple of statements would be good too, but that may just take us a bit of time. I'll do the investigations and research first, but that will be needed before the end as well. Oh, no. I'll send you it. No. So we trustees and statements would be good and company constitutions, but I'll send through just a reminder email next week as well just as a refresher. To with Jordan? So, yeah, you would have got that from Jordan. What I'll do is I'll send you through you would have received our financial services guide from hopefully, it should have been our research or info email, and anything that you send through today kind of automatically tags to your client profile. So best to keep it central there rather than if you send it to me directly and I'm away, the team won't have access to that until I'm there, if that makes sense. Cool. We were talking about potentially looking at the whole end of financial year contributions down the line, but you're not currently doing any extras at the moment, Salary sacrifice or anything? Perfect. I'm assuming you both haven't gone through any bankruptcy or debt agreements before? Gotcha. So it's not like a formal part nine debt agreement. It was just kind of some some assistance there on the budgeting side. They didn't take over the debt yet. Yep. Perfect. Can you guys just quickly run me through the yeah. Yeah. It's all just kind of security in the back end, and it does impact loans, of course, which you guys would know very much about. But it's just one of those little checks that we do as well. That and another very strange question, which you may not get often, but are you guys a member of any foreign tax residency? No. Probably down the line once you go to The Philippines, but not right now, which is good. And last couple of questions I've got for you guys is just on the, like, the health and insurance side of things. Have you got insurances attached through the SMSF? Did you cancel them all when you set it up? Or Yeah. Life TPD income protection. K. Now that's that's up to you guys, but, obviously, at your ages, trying to obtain some life insurance at this point would be quite expensive. Do you want me to look into that or just keep this strictly to the SMSF? Yeah. That was my next question. Yeah. So no insurances, but the estates. Do you have what what's the family structure like then? You've got Tash, you've got a few adult children now? Or yep. Fantastic. And, Steve, do you have any? K. The beneficiary to the cat and the dog. Oh, I can't wait to see that. That'll be fantastic. I know I did an Optimus Prime transformers super fun for somebody a few years back. Yeah. Creative names. So we've got Okay. And what's that one? Oh, not the way. This is the one I'm thinking of. And they're yelling at each other across the yep. Yeah. What's your name? Oh, no way. Yeah. Yep. Okay. No. That's not even a member or a director or anything. It's no one in oh, that's funny. Okay. So the cell phone and super fund details we'll get just quickly on the estate planning side of things. So are you guys gonna go obviously, a will is a must. You're gonna set up a bit of a power of attorney as well, maybe a testamentary trust will, something like that, if you consider those. Yep. So the the quick reminder and refresher is that your power of attorney is when you're still here. And if you're in hospital, it means it's much easier for someone to in Queensland, it incorporates, like, the the health and financial side. So someone to use the bank accounts, talk to the doctors without having to go to, you know, the courts for probate and everything. So that's even the $25 power of attorney kit from the post office is something. But, of course, you can talk to the public trustee or a solicitor, whichever way you guys wanna go. The only reason why I mentioned testamentary trust, Will, is because you've got the adult children as well. You can be a bit more specific in, you know, trust gets created when you pass away, and you can be a bit more specific in how that gets distributed across everybody. Unless you all just wanted to go to Steve, but allows for a bit more filtering down as well. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of why you do those sets of structures because what it does is, like, it does the same thing as if you had a trust or a family trust set up now is when you pass away, it can move the asset into a trust that gets created. And then you've got all that flexibility to hold on to the assets, distribute that income, allow them to access some or all of it at different ages and things like that so you can be a little bit more future planning with it. So, yeah, absolutely talk to a solicitor about that. Yeah. It's it's trying to avoid that, and it does avoid little things like stamp not stamp duty, Medicare levy on, like, super death benefits and things like that. Because, obviously, when it comes to the super side of things, if you leave it to a spouse, they're considered tax dependent, so it's tax free. If you leave it to an adult child, they are a valid beneficiary, but not a tax beneficiary. So, yeah, so certain things that we do for people who are, like, 65 or retired before 65 is they pull money out of super and put it back in again as non concessional and just kind of try and rinse as much of it as they can into their tax free portion. Because you pull that tax free, you get it back in. So recontributions are an option, especially once you start ceasing employment arrangements and things like that after 60. Yes. Yeah. Because the the caps, you can do that, like, the bring forward rule and everything. You could do essentially 360,000 back in. Plus if you time it around the end of financial year, another 120,000 in that each. So the minimums, it's four to 5% minimum out. But, again, once you've retired, you can pull out big lump sum, put it back in again. You can do all kinds of things. Yeah. Yeah. Just have them all prepared there, and it's one of those things too. Like, transitioning, like, SMSF into pension phase is one thing. Trying to transition three of them into pension phase can be quite painful. Yeah. And still try and keep all the accounting separate and everything. So I think that'll be the main thing that I'll try and help with is just restructure those a little bit. And then you've got already, you've got three or four different options and plans a, b, c, and d. And then you will find over the next few years which one becomes right If you take this new role and then things pick up with the stocks, then that kind of illuminates for you. And if not, then you've got those options to sell the the property and the shares and offset each other. If not, borrow off of them and buy the next one. There's there's a few options there. We just need to get you in that cleanup. I think last thing I'm just gonna grab from you guys as well is just around the personal assets. We have all the SMS upside. You mentioned you had a little bit in savings at the moment. Can I just take down a bit of an estimate, please? Yep. And that's sitting in offset? Yep. K. And did you say you had two properties personally? Just the one, and that's the one that you're trying to sell for the around about 200,000 profit area. Can I just quickly grab the value and amount selling for that one? Yep. 150 after the cash. And are there any other assets or liabilities loans floating around? Yeah. So it's six on the personal loan. Yep. Yep. Perfect. Yeah. Right. Are we talking five, ten, 20? So, Steve, you're 30. Is that the split between crypto and shares, or is it just the shares? Yep. Yep. And that's the shares. No. That's okay. That is okay. I pretty much have everything I need, to be honest. Alright, guys. Well, what I'll do Absolutely, Josh. Have a great Easter, man. Alright. Steve. Bye. Perfect. Perfect. The only last thing I didn't capture before, Tash Wren, was just her car value. Yep. So six for Tasha's car. You've got your leased car, and then you've got a Yoot as well? Yep. Perfect. Alrighty. Do you reckon you're clear about 20 if you sold it in a year? Yeah. Okay. Not bad. So I think I've got all the assets, liabilities. We've got all of that information, estate planning sorted. That's pretty much it, mate. I've we've talked about quite a few different things. Any thoughts so far, Steve, before I let you go? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a kind of last resort, but it will keep you going for most of the years. Yeah. So what I need to do as well is I'll do that investigation first around whether we can clean up and restructure the SMSFs a little bit before we go too far down the process. If it is promising, one thing I might do because like I said, if we do go that route and if we do have to use, like, one of the Macquarie accounts, we can tie it all together. I'll do a little bit of a risk profile questionnaire with you guys, which takes about ten minutes, And I'll come up with some options for you and say, hey. If we were to try and balance this a little bit, here's a few other investment options you can add into the mix. And then if you want, you could pretty much manage them yourself as well. Like, you'd have a short list of, you know, here's this gold ETF. Here's this fixed interest fund, credit funds, different types of options, and then you can pretty much invest the excess. Like, you know how you've been doing that with the shares? You've got your contributions, maintaining the property. Anything else apart from that can go into the the shares in the portfolio. Once you set up, like, a a model portfolio on the account, you can pretty much just put it all in, and it'll split it between the proportions if you wanna go that way or do a bit of day trading, buying, and selling specific ones. Yeah. Right. Okay. That'll set you up pretty nicely. Do you do you reckon you'd always carry on doing a bit of trading once you've once you've hung up the boots? Tash will be working in The Philippines, and you'll be doing a bit of day trading? Yeah. That'd be fun. You're right. Goodbye, you reckon? Yeah. Right. Jeez. Yeah. Yep. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's kind of caught you up a little bit, hasn't it? Yeah. Yep. So the income's still strong out of it. Yeah. Have you ever worked out what that works out to be as a percentage, like as a percentage income return? Wow. I didn't expect it to be that high, but that's a pretty good portion. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Jeez. At least you got a couple of the safer place that you're kind of trying to build into as well. Nah. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been a big percentage of a small parcel, but I guess it all stacked eventually too. Yeah. See, before I start off, I forgot to ask Natasha for her date of birth. Do you That's it. I knew it was '70, and you were '68. Right? And you're what what day of month of year? Twenty first September. Fantastic. Thank you very much. That was the last little thing I was just looking through. The data I caption went out. There's a blank box there. Date of birth. Whoops. Awesome, mate. Is there anything else that I mean, besides the the self managed super fund, anything else besides the estate planning that I've I've missed so far? Yeah. There's a few things you guys need to come back to down the line. Like I said, once you hit that 60 plus, your contribution strategy is gonna be pretty important, and just getting everything into pension phase and optimizing it with the taxes and the jobs and everything, but that's that's not for a few years yet. Yeah. Yep. K. What I might do too is, like I said, I'll do the research first, but I'll probably send through, like, a bit of a if we if there's a bit of an idea and plan on what we can do and there's gonna be an actual benefit from it, I'll put together, like, a statement of advice and just outline here's everything that you should do, here's the pros and cons, here's everything in paper, what you what you stand to gain and save. And then I was gonna let Natasha know as well just with our phase to go through the advice is we usually cap the SMSF advice at four nine five o, but that's obviously incumbent on the benefit that you get as well. So I need to make sure I can actually save you that. Otherwise, that wouldn't be worth going through all the rigmarole. Absolutely. Awesome. Cool. I'm glad to have had this chat. This is, again, one of the most exotic setups I've seen, and it's actually pretty fun. I I told the guys this before because they all left at five because, you know, clock watches and the rest. I said, I've got a couple of them about to talk to with three self managed super funds. They said, wow. Can't wait to see what you do with that. I said, first, I gotta get some information first. I can't just come up with it out of nowhere, but, no, we're starting to paint a bit of a picture, aren't we? No. But the cool thing too is you as you've noticed is once we break it down into smaller chunks, it starts getting clearer what the options are for each chunk. And then once you've got two or three options for each bit and you split out what the time frames are, what's immediate, what's in three years' time, what's in five years' time, all of a sudden, you can make some choices. Yeah. And that's the thing too, is it could very quickly be, yes, you've gotten an extra asset out of it. So fantastic for building it up and then being able to leverage into another asset. That's fantastic, number one. And then number two, if those stocks rebound as well, you've got a pretty healthy balance. You're still on a healthy income level. You're not in a bad spot compared to a lot of people. Yeah. Yep. Same. Yeah. Yeah. The amount of shares and things you've got and trading at your age, yeah, absolutely. No. No. Yeah. No. I think it's, like you said, you've you've flipped the script a little bit, and good on you for catching it up so quick and in such a short period of time. And it's not, you know, it's it can be scary to to jump in and and do that, but it's it's paid off pretty well so far. So far, it's gonna keep the momentum going, make a few right choices, and you should be sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Right. If not, $3.60. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what a lot of these guys are doing is they're they're buying a few through the super and then holding them until that 60 plus range and then selling them off so they can avoid the capital gains tax. So it's an option. I'm actually writing this down to potentially buy another two properties with that. Like you said, contributors in, potentially leverage off of those. Absolutely. Yep. Or at least have the cash there or offset on the next property that you get, whatever it is. Oh, well, that's one of those ones where I've just been chipping away at it since, well, 2012 now. I'm I'm always every week, every month, but it would be nice for a bit of a pullback. That's for sure. Yes. Yes. It is. Yeah. No. There was yeah. There was a few that were sitting there under just under 2, I think, at the time, and was sitting at 30. I mean, I went down to 16 at one point two. Good fun. No. For all gold sitting at $6.07. US. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Alright. Safe, mate. I'm gonna get going. My my missus just texted me to get home. But it was really lovely meeting you both of you. And when we get through to the other end, I'll I'll jump on the old the video call next time and say hello. And I will I'll be sending you a pretty big email with a few things to get. Once we get the info, I'll probably book in for a bit of a follow-up with you first because there's a couple of other things I wanna run by you first before we go through to the endpoint. Awesome, mate. Well, you guys have a fantastic Easter. Have you got much on for the Easter weekend? Is it gonna be a quiet one or you zipping around? Yeah. Right. I'll I'll factor that into the plan once you come back with the winnings. Oh, that's gold. Yeah. So when I'm gonna hide it the entire time, and I'll put in as a long term goal professional roulette player and self funded retiree from it. And then that'll be your personal goal. And so when she sees that in the SOA, she'll have a laugh. Off you went. And you're gonna try it out this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. I'll try and avoid the casino this weekend because I'm bad for it. I'll just be staying with the kids and eating some chalky. Yes. That's what I'm gonna do is go around and put all that around the yard, put in some spots where the dog won't get it. Yes. Yeah. I've got six and three, and then I've got another one on the way in June. So two boys and a daughter on the way. Yes. That is absolutely enough. That is. She convinced me to have just that one more. She goes, I'm not quite done yet, Michael. I am, and I wanna sleep again. But last one and happy days after that. And I'll appreciate it one day. I'll be sitting around hopefully at a big big family table with decades time, and we'll we'll see. Yeah. Well, three rolls of the dice. I'll see how we go. I look sometimes it's it's three in a row. Sometimes it's three in a row. You see? The odds the odds are I remember last time at the casino, it was three zeros came up, and I was just like, you gotta be kidding on the roulette. And I was like, no. I'm done. Three zeros because I never go on zero, and I lost quite a bit on that and was just like, no. I'm going for a drink. Oh, that'd be good. Of course. Yeah. I have seen that one. I haven't tried it, but yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Just stack it up. Yeah. Yeah. Double or nothing. Yeah. And that's the nature of gambling. Yeah. Yeah. Far out. No. Not the other way around. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And that's the thing. It's just gone against the long term trend, and it's only been the last since, again, January. Otherwise, you would have been gone most of the year after that, before that. Yeah. And, again, it's not doesn't usually take that long, especially for the currencies to fix up. So hopefully, year or two max will be good. Steve, what's your what's your availability like next couple of weeks just when the team gives you a call? Is it like mornings or arbos or just text you first? Yep. Okay. Afternoon. And we usually because we've got that, like, digital phone system. Sometimes it'll come through from the main number. Sometimes it might call through from, like, a mobile. We'll always leave you a voice message, send you a text so you know it's us. Mate, I don't think I've answered a phone call in two years. I don't blame you. Awesome. Easy done, mate. Well, thank you very much for tonight, and have a happy Easter. You too. And I should Yep. I should talk to you in the next sort of week or two. I'll give you a bit of an update next week, but there'll be a few more things a week after once we've got a bit of info for you. Awesome, Steve. Take it easy, mate. 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It's Tommy here from Oakview Financial, mate. How are you doing? Living the dream so far. It's Easter in a couple of hours.\n\nHow are you going? Oh, fantastic, mate. Well, thank you for spending a bit of time with me. Fantastic. Fantastic.\n\nWell, am I on speakerphone? Can I say hi to Natasha? How are you doing, Tash? How you been? I'm not actually in Google Meet at the moment.\n\nI was just giving you guys a quick phone call. Do you want me to jump on on there now? I can switch across. Yeah. Cool.\n\nWell, while I've got you guys, I just wanted to have a bit of an introductory chat and get a bit of an idea of what's going on because you're in a very interesting situation, if I if I may say so myself. Yep. Did it? What happened? Okay.\n\nRight. So you might have something to sort of tie you over for a few years between now and when you go overseas. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.\n\nYeah. And that's just your home in Kingaroy? Okay. What ideas did you guys come up with, if you don't mind me asking? Yep.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. All of the arm's length rules and all the fun regulations around it. Right?\n\nMhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Right. Okay. That's an interesting idea. Absolutely.\n\nYeah. Absolutely. And that's just from your your personal assets, not not counting anything in the self managed super funds. Right? That's the US stocks.\n\nYeah. Right. Okay. So let me get a bit of a lay of the land then because I I thought it was a bit more kind of clean-cut split between that. So you've got the the three cell phone and super funds.\n\nYou don't have any kind of standard super accounts floating around outside it as a satellite, do you? Perfect. Alright. So I'm just gonna do a bit of an asset breakdown for a second, and I might even get a bit of information from you guys after this. But you've got the three.\n\nOne of them is joint. Two of them are solo. K. Do you guys have one H solo, or are they both underused, Steve? One h.\n\nOkay. So you've got one H, one joint. So the joint one, that's where you've got the Harvey Bay property. Okay. What's the value in owing on that one?\n\nYep. Yep. K. So you're a little bit there with a bit of a loan attached to it, and that one's got a bit of US stocks as well. And that's the dividends just coming straight in to that cash account.\n\nBoth of your contributions go in there? Contribution funds. Okay. Perfect. Perfect.\n\nSo with the the account structure, you've obviously got a bank account that's flowing through all of the rents and payments and dividends and everything. To purchase The US stocks, did you just go through a brokerage account? Like, did you set up a Comsec, or what what platform are you using? CMC. Yeah.\n\nFor the stock purchases. And what's the value of the stocks in in that SMSF? Yep. K. So nothing too crazy there.\n\nJust a little bit that's well, I guess you're investing the excess from the contributions. Right? Whatever's not been used for the property is just kind of buying into a few stocks. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nAnd the contributions are kind of holding that up at the moment. Yep. Yeah. So when it comes to The US shares, one of the things that I'm kind of worried about at the moment with a lot of clients is the exchange rate between US dollars and Australian dollars. So you've got to be really careful there.\n\nIt's taken a bit of a dive since January 2025. So even if you were trying to sell them, your exchange getting them across into the country is gonna chop a bit off of your returns too. Yeah. So it's one of the things where timing is gonna be big for that one, for when you sell those or if you just use them for dividends. K.\n\nAnd with the other two SMSFs, what's what's in those? Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's currently sitting at $2.50 at the moment.\n\nK. That's a bit rough. You're in a bit of a bit of a spot there where you've got all these assets tied up, but not really much wiggle room to do anything with them. Yeah. And, Tash, what about your SMSF?\n\nIs that similar in US stocks, or what's that invested in? Yep. Yep. Okay. So that'll be crystallizing quite a bit of losses to do anything with those at this point.\n\nMhmm. Yeah. Yeah. I get you. So that's a bit painful.\n\nDoes that mean you guys have three different trust set up, and are you just individual trustees for these? So joint on one, you're not using any companies or anything? Okay. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nPerfect. For the property? Yeah. Because you'd need that for that the loan for the property. So, technically, you're floating around with essentially four trusts and four trustees, really.\n\nYeah. Two for the joint one and then one each for the solo. That must be costing you guys a bit in audit fees and tax returns, wouldn't it? Yeah. Yeah.\n\nThat's the painful part because it would be really ideal to even be able to offset like, let's say you were to sell that Harvey Bay property, being able to offset those gains with the losses from the shares would be really good, but I'm not actually certain whether you could actually get the shares across without crystallizing a CGT event. I'm not have you checked into that so far? Yeah. Yeah. Yep.\n\nIt's kind of it's gotten you that leg up into that next position, allow you to borrow, get on to that next asset, and they're kind of offsetting each other just in terms of growth, I guess. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So one thing that may be a bit of an accounting trick that I would want to look into for you guys is whether you can do an in specie transfer of your US stocks from one SMSF to the other where it can kind of be captured between trustee to trustee, and then you've got the ability to have that option to sell them and offset within that one if you want to.\n\nSo it's I think it's possible because the the last time I I tried doing this a few years ago, I had someone who was trying to get the shares into super. So once you have that change of beneficial ownership, you trigger your CGT event, you kind of upshits creek if you don't mind me saying. But if it's already in super, I have seen self funded super funds or even other platforms capture shares and in specie transfer them across. It just took a lot of paperwork to do the cost base to actually do that transfer. So that's one possibility to try and get the three into the one.\n\nI I would definitely investigate it. Yeah. Correct. Because it's one member's trustee to another member's trustee. Because it's it's under your name as a member.\n\nIt's your asset. So if you move your asset into an SMSF or change of trustees, let's say you own two super funds, you're essentially rolling over funds between one of your super funds to another. They are supposed to, with the accounting, keep your assets separate and accounted for underneath. Yeah. Inspecie transfer.\n\nYeah. It's I n s p e c I e, in spaCy transfer. And it's also yeah. It's a bit more painful for the platform side of things because I used a lot of Macquarie for self managed super funds, and they're very good for those in spaCy transfers, and they they tend to use because it's a wrap platform. They were actually created to wrap people's individual assets together.\n\nSo you were able to basically capture anything that they had on menu or available within the funds. So that's even switching to a platform might be possible where you could even set up, like, a platform account and potentially grab everything across from CMC or state as well. Yeah. Okay. So one of the things that may be worth doing is it's just an option is maybe a Macquarie rep account may be beneficial to kind of pull all of those assets together.\n\nThe forms to to do those cost bases, they can take a little bit of time and accounting to do it, but it's an option there. If we wanna get it all into one and have this flexibility to offset the losses and gains, maybe worth just having a linked up Macquarie Bank account with a Macquarie investment account. You just be you have to be careful which one you pick because they've got three. One of them is very good for having lots of different individual holdings in terms of fakes, and some of the other ones are a bit more if you have one investment option. So it's just about getting the right one as well.\n\nYeah. The other option is that if you wait until you hit your retirement phase and you sell them off with the sort of pension phase, you don't have to pay CGT there. It'll be tax free. But if you're kind of joint owning the asset, you'd both wanna be above 60 for that. Do it at the same time.\n\nThat's right. Because, Natasha, you're nineteen seventy, aren't you? Yeah. K. So it's one of those things about the short term strategy is either you hold on to it until you're both able to retire.\n\nAnd and, honestly, that that job that you're mentioning, to be able to tie over for an extra couple of years might be a bit of a blessing. Because if you can just hold on to everything until you can both hit pension phase, You can just roll it all across, avoid the CGT issues. Hopefully, the stocks have bounced back by then, and then you can transition all these assets into a bit of a pension phase. Even if you change them then into something a bit safer to live off, you might be better off doing that, or the short term is trying to get all of this sold and moved around now. Yeah.\n\nYep. So it would be really interesting If you can potentially get them all together, then at least if it's all in the one SMSF, you can still hold on to all of them until pension phase or decide to sell small amounts if you need to? Like, at least you can choose whether it's some, all partial, and and so on. What do you think? Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing is once you get to that late fifties, high income earning, you're pretty much in the worst bracket for copying tax from all angles. All of your your hard earned assets, your your income level, everything cops it.\n\nYou're in the kind of wrong end of town for the tax side, unfortunately. Yeah. Absolutely. So yeah. You got those people who have the businesses and things like that that have more tax breaks, or you've got people at the lower end of town who get all the concessions, and you're in that you know, they call you the the mega rich, but you're not, but they put you in that same category to copy you with the taxes.\n\nYeah. I'm with you. And there, the most attractive thing is the super because you'll be able to access it pretty soon if you needed to even if you were doing a transition to retirement. So you can get a little bit extra in there, have the ability to draw a bit of it back out if you needed to. Okay.\n\nYep. Yeah. It's that sequencing risk that happens at this age too where one of those global events happens and all of a sudden you're you're faced with, I guess, waiting a number of years for things to clear out. And the question is how long can you hold on for for it to recover and and get what you need. Luckily, like you said, you got that property there, so at least there's some assets to draw from.\n\nAnd the income side Yeah. It'd be nice to have the full value of the shares that you had just to borrow off of those in the SMSFs. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely.\n\nAnd like you said, if it's sitting at $8.50, it's pretty good. And then you've got the increase in the other one. It's not looking too bad. So let me ask you guys this then. When it comes to the self funded super funds, do you want me to investigate a way to kind of tie it together and see what the options are there, at least so you can know with some certainty?\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. The auditing fees, tax returns, which parcels have gone into what. Yeah.\n\nSo that'll be my main thing then is I'll investigate that for you guys. If there's something where it's just a real simple yes or no, I'll let you know straight away. If there's a way that we can kind of do an overall tightening and cleanup as you lead into retirement, then we'll kind of proceed through the advice process and and go through that route, and I'll just kind of help pull it all together for you guys. So you seem pretty confident in your investing side of things. Do you want any suggestions on investment options, or you really just wanna simplify the structure?\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the type of things that I was sort of leaning towards is as you as you enter into that transition to retirement age bracket, do you wanna put together some sort of a little bit more conservative portfolio where you just diversify a bit, have a bit of metals in there, a bit of gold and silver, a bit of high interest, fixed interest options there too? Because, like, as an example, if you were to utilize a a wrap platform like Macquarie to hold the shares, you then got access to all those managed funds and ETFs as well.\n\nAnd if you wanted to put a bit into gold, I've been into some high high yielding fixed interest where you're getting 6% somewhat guaranteed, you can kind of just fix up your asset allocation a little bit as well. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah.\n\nNo. No. I understand. Congratulations. There you go.\n\nA bit of a side hustle going on. That's fantastic. Oh, look. I'm not gonna lie. This is one of the most exotic setups I've ever seen when it comes to retirement planning, so I love it.\n\nI'm here for it. Yeah. Yeah. That too. Absolutely.\n\nSo what I'll do is just to keep it nice and easy for you guys, Tash, if you're comfortable to reach out to to stake and see if you can do that in specie transfer, that kind of that'll help because that simplifies everything. I'll investigate on the Macquarie side and see if you need to use a platform for it. And then, like, if you if you can do it with your your current platforms and even if CMC would offer taking over those, like, if they will let you do it and bring it across, that might be good too. So if you guys can investigate that side, I'll contact the Macquarie BDMs and figure out a few options for you as a bit of a plan b. How's that sound?\n\nCool. So Yeah. Go for it. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nRight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nI can see what you mean. It's a bit of a split where the redundancy picks you up quite high, but only that baseline is copying the tax, but you're still in that bracket anyway. Okay. What I might do then just to take a quick step back is let me just go through a couple of details with you guys, and that way I can I've got a clear picture in my mind. So, Steve, what's the current salary?\n\nSo it's about the $1.50 mark at the moment. Yep. Okay. Okay, sir. That $1.66 is a package.\n\nAnd this other job that you're looking at is possibly starting you off as a manufacturing manager at $1.75? K. And the site lady you think could go upwards of 200? Perfect. K.\n\nWhen will you find out about the redundancies, Steve? Okay. Yeah. Absolutely. And so is Melinda the employer?\n\nVega. As in bigger stringers? Cheese? Yep. Perfect.\n\nPerfect. What about your side of things, Tash? How much has has Luke got you on? I'm I'm not sure what your specific role and income is at the moment. I won't I won't bring you into the conversation, but of course, he's got you under 6 figures.\n\nNo worries. Fair enough. 95 there. And you're doing, like, the the credit analyst side of things or bookkeeping and accounting. That's it.\n\nBookkeeping and accounting. What about okay. So in terms of, like, goals for you guys, you've got a lot of different assets with the the house and the shares generating income sort of things. When you go overseas, you sell off and you move overseas, what what country are you guys going to? Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. Yeah.\n\nYou might do a bit of a partial retirement for a while. Wow. That'd be fun. That's kind of working from home enhanced. It's just, you know, overseas working holiday almost.\n\nCool. Yeah. Steve is old school, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nThat's crazy. I was actually yeah. Ollie helped me do my refinance just recently. I think he might be Croatian, similar to to my family, I think. Oh, yeah.\n\nI cop it all the time. People all the time saying, are you Serbian? I was like, you can't say that. That just starts to fight and a brawl at the soccer match with some flares and things like that. Pretty much.\n\nPretty much. Yeah. As in, like, sort of like a yep. Good day. Kind of thing.\n\nYep. Absolutely. No. I am still I decided to have a few kids instead, so I'm still planning my trip to Croatia with the family. Yeah.\n\nSo it's kind of delayed things for a few years, so that's next on my bucket list is to go over there and see the family. Okay. Perfect. So what I might do too, I just wanted to ask you guys, like, in terms of obviously, even if you're doing a bit of work from The Philippines, have you got a figure of, like, the yearly income you're gonna wanna have when you finally kind of both hang up the boots? Yeah.\n\nYeah. Right. So technically, 7,000 to 10,000 a month combined from the super and maybe a bit of part time work and some side hustles, and you guys should be okay. Who knows? It might come in in the right time.\n\nMight come in at the right time. It may just sort of kick off right when you need it. Who knows? Yeah. And what did you say, Steve?\n\nIt's more size than hustle at the moment. Not yet. Cool. Guys, I might just a t shirt or will I get a photo of this, or do I get a few different choices? Yeah.\n\nYou know what you should do, if you could for me, is part of the process is we do certified ID, and we usually get the clients to take a photo, bit of a selfie with the license there as well. If you can wear one of those shirts when you do it, I'd appreciate that. Perfect. Perfect. So Yeah.\n\nTest them out a little bit, see how they go in the wash. Yeah. Can't see why not. If they're the mates. Absolutely.\n\nSteve. Not on TikTok, are you? TikTok and YouTube. Oh, wow. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Gotcha. Oh, awesome. Yeah. I found the armchair amigos travel gurus.\n\nI'll have a little bit of a look at that when I get home. Absolutely. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe. Don't worry. So fantastic.\n\nSo I've got a baby on the way into the lullabies. Yeah. Do you look back and sort of cringe a little bit, do you? I guess it's all just trial and error. Right?\n\nSimilar with the shirts. Actually, speaking of careers, I forgot to ask you before. For Vega, what's your your current role, Steve? Supply chain manager. That's right.\n\nI've got the the next roles, but Scott actually asked you that one. You're on. Been everywhere. Just like that TV Fair enough. Fair enough.\n\nGuys, I'm just gonna grab a couple more details before I let you dart off for Ace of there. Would you be okay to I'll I'll do that investigation with Macquarie first, but would you be okay to send through some of the, like, the trust deeds and company constitutions for the SMSF at some point as well? Well, it'll have to be for all three because if I'm gonna advise a possible three to one kind of cleanup, I I just wanna make sure I can identify all the funds and everything, Trustees, trust owners, members, and so on. And maybe a couple of statements would be good too, but that may just take us a bit of time. I'll do the investigations and research first, but that will be needed before the end as well.\n\nOh, no. I'll send you it. No. So we trustees and statements would be good and company constitutions, but I'll send through just a reminder email next week as well just as a refresher. To with Jordan?\n\nSo, yeah, you would have got that from Jordan. What I'll do is I'll send you through you would have received our financial services guide from hopefully, it should have been our research or info email, and anything that you send through today kind of automatically tags to your client profile. So best to keep it central there rather than if you send it to me directly and I'm away, the team won't have access to that until I'm there, if that makes sense. Cool. We were talking about potentially looking at the whole end of financial year contributions down the line, but you're not currently doing any extras at the moment, Salary sacrifice or anything?\n\nPerfect. I'm assuming you both haven't gone through any bankruptcy or debt agreements before? Gotcha. So it's not like a formal part nine debt agreement. It was just kind of some some assistance there on the budgeting side.\n\nThey didn't take over the debt yet. Yep. Perfect. Can you guys just quickly run me through the yeah. Yeah.\n\nIt's all just kind of security in the back end, and it does impact loans, of course, which you guys would know very much about. But it's just one of those little checks that we do as well. That and another very strange question, which you may not get often, but are you guys a member of any foreign tax residency? No. Probably down the line once you go to The Philippines, but not right now, which is good.\n\nAnd last couple of questions I've got for you guys is just on the, like, the health and insurance side of things. Have you got insurances attached through the SMSF? Did you cancel them all when you set it up? Or Yeah. Life TPD income protection.\n\nK. Now that's that's up to you guys, but, obviously, at your ages, trying to obtain some life insurance at this point would be quite expensive. Do you want me to look into that or just keep this strictly to the SMSF? Yeah. That was my next question.\n\nYeah. So no insurances, but the estates. Do you have what what's the family structure like then? You've got Tash, you've got a few adult children now? Or yep.\n\nFantastic. And, Steve, do you have any? K. The beneficiary to the cat and the dog. Oh, I can't wait to see that.\n\nThat'll be fantastic. I know I did an Optimus Prime transformers super fun for somebody a few years back. Yeah. Creative names. So we've got Okay.\n\nAnd what's that one? Oh, not the way. This is the one I'm thinking of. And they're yelling at each other across the yep. Yeah.\n\nWhat's your name? Oh, no way. Yeah. Yep. Okay.\n\nNo. That's not even a member or a director or anything. It's no one in oh, that's funny. Okay. So the cell phone and super fund details we'll get just quickly on the estate planning side of things.\n\nSo are you guys gonna go obviously, a will is a must. You're gonna set up a bit of a power of attorney as well, maybe a testamentary trust will, something like that, if you consider those. Yep. So the the quick reminder and refresher is that your power of attorney is when you're still here. And if you're in hospital, it means it's much easier for someone to in Queensland, it incorporates, like, the the health and financial side.\n\nSo someone to use the bank accounts, talk to the doctors without having to go to, you know, the courts for probate and everything. So that's even the $25 power of attorney kit from the post office is something. But, of course, you can talk to the public trustee or a solicitor, whichever way you guys wanna go. The only reason why I mentioned testamentary trust, Will, is because you've got the adult children as well. You can be a bit more specific in, you know, trust gets created when you pass away, and you can be a bit more specific in how that gets distributed across everybody.\n\nUnless you all just wanted to go to Steve, but allows for a bit more filtering down as well. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of why you do those sets of structures because what it does is, like, it does the same thing as if you had a trust or a family trust set up now is when you pass away, it can move the asset into a trust that gets created. And then you've got all that flexibility to hold on to the assets, distribute that income, allow them to access some or all of it at different ages and things like that so you can be a little bit more future planning with it.\n\nSo, yeah, absolutely talk to a solicitor about that. Yeah. It's it's trying to avoid that, and it does avoid little things like stamp not stamp duty, Medicare levy on, like, super death benefits and things like that. Because, obviously, when it comes to the super side of things, if you leave it to a spouse, they're considered tax dependent, so it's tax free. If you leave it to an adult child, they are a valid beneficiary, but not a tax beneficiary.\n\nSo, yeah, so certain things that we do for people who are, like, 65 or retired before 65 is they pull money out of super and put it back in again as non concessional and just kind of try and rinse as much of it as they can into their tax free portion. Because you pull that tax free, you get it back in. So recontributions are an option, especially once you start ceasing employment arrangements and things like that after 60. Yes. Yeah.\n\nBecause the the caps, you can do that, like, the bring forward rule and everything. You could do essentially 360,000 back in. Plus if you time it around the end of financial year, another 120,000 in that each. So the minimums, it's four to 5% minimum out. But, again, once you've retired, you can pull out big lump sum, put it back in again.\n\nYou can do all kinds of things. Yeah. Yeah. Just have them all prepared there, and it's one of those things too. Like, transitioning, like, SMSF into pension phase is one thing.\n\nTrying to transition three of them into pension phase can be quite painful. Yeah. And still try and keep all the accounting separate and everything. So I think that'll be the main thing that I'll try and help with is just restructure those a little bit. And then you've got already, you've got three or four different options and plans a, b, c, and d.\n\nAnd then you will find over the next few years which one becomes right If you take this new role and then things pick up with the stocks, then that kind of illuminates for you. And if not, then you've got those options to sell the the property and the shares and offset each other. If not, borrow off of them and buy the next one. There's there's a few options there. We just need to get you in that cleanup.\n\nI think last thing I'm just gonna grab from you guys as well is just around the personal assets. We have all the SMS upside. You mentioned you had a little bit in savings at the moment. Can I just take down a bit of an estimate, please? Yep.\n\nAnd that's sitting in offset? Yep. K. And did you say you had two properties personally? Just the one, and that's the one that you're trying to sell for the around about 200,000 profit area.\n\nCan I just quickly grab the value and amount selling for that one? Yep. 150 after the cash. And are there any other assets or liabilities loans floating around? Yeah.\n\nSo it's six on the personal loan. Yep. Yep. Perfect. Yeah.\n\nRight. Are we talking five, ten, 20? So, Steve, you're 30. Is that the split between crypto and shares, or is it just the shares? Yep.\n\nYep. And that's the shares. No. That's okay. That is okay.\n\nI pretty much have everything I need, to be honest. Alright, guys. Well, what I'll do Absolutely, Josh. Have a great Easter, man. Alright.\n\nSteve. Bye. Perfect. Perfect. The only last thing I didn't capture before, Tash Wren, was just her car value.\n\nYep. So six for Tasha's car. You've got your leased car, and then you've got a Yoot as well? Yep. Perfect.\n\nAlrighty. Do you reckon you're clear about 20 if you sold it in a year? Yeah. Okay. Not bad.\n\nSo I think I've got all the assets, liabilities. We've got all of that information, estate planning sorted. That's pretty much it, mate. I've we've talked about quite a few different things. Any thoughts so far, Steve, before I let you go?\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a kind of last resort, but it will keep you going for most of the years.\n\nYeah. So what I need to do as well is I'll do that investigation first around whether we can clean up and restructure the SMSFs a little bit before we go too far down the process. If it is promising, one thing I might do because like I said, if we do go that route and if we do have to use, like, one of the Macquarie accounts, we can tie it all together. I'll do a little bit of a risk profile questionnaire with you guys, which takes about ten minutes, And I'll come up with some options for you and say, hey. If we were to try and balance this a little bit, here's a few other investment options you can add into the mix.\n\nAnd then if you want, you could pretty much manage them yourself as well. Like, you'd have a short list of, you know, here's this gold ETF. Here's this fixed interest fund, credit funds, different types of options, and then you can pretty much invest the excess. Like, you know how you've been doing that with the shares? You've got your contributions, maintaining the property.\n\nAnything else apart from that can go into the the shares in the portfolio. Once you set up, like, a a model portfolio on the account, you can pretty much just put it all in, and it'll split it between the proportions if you wanna go that way or do a bit of day trading, buying, and selling specific ones. Yeah. Right. Okay.\n\nThat'll set you up pretty nicely. Do you do you reckon you'd always carry on doing a bit of trading once you've once you've hung up the boots? Tash will be working in The Philippines, and you'll be doing a bit of day trading? Yeah. That'd be fun.\n\nYou're right. Goodbye, you reckon? Yeah. Right. Jeez.\n\nYeah. Yep. Wow. Wow. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Absolutely. That's kind of caught you up a little bit, hasn't it? Yeah. Yep.\n\nSo the income's still strong out of it. Yeah. Have you ever worked out what that works out to be as a percentage, like as a percentage income return? Wow. I didn't expect it to be that high, but that's a pretty good portion.\n\nYeah. Okay. Yeah. Jeez. At least you got a couple of the safer place that you're kind of trying to build into as well.\n\nNah. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been a big percentage of a small parcel, but I guess it all stacked eventually too. Yeah.\n\nSee, before I start off, I forgot to ask Natasha for her date of birth. Do you That's it. I knew it was '70, and you were '68. Right? And you're what what day of month of year?\n\nTwenty first September. Fantastic. Thank you very much. That was the last little thing I was just looking through. The data I caption went out.\n\nThere's a blank box there. Date of birth. Whoops. Awesome, mate. Is there anything else that I mean, besides the the self managed super fund, anything else besides the estate planning that I've I've missed so far?\n\nYeah. There's a few things you guys need to come back to down the line. Like I said, once you hit that 60 plus, your contribution strategy is gonna be pretty important, and just getting everything into pension phase and optimizing it with the taxes and the jobs and everything, but that's that's not for a few years yet. Yeah. Yep.\n\nK. What I might do too is, like I said, I'll do the research first, but I'll probably send through, like, a bit of a if we if there's a bit of an idea and plan on what we can do and there's gonna be an actual benefit from it, I'll put together, like, a statement of advice and just outline here's everything that you should do, here's the pros and cons, here's everything in paper, what you what you stand to gain and save. And then I was gonna let Natasha know as well just with our phase to go through the advice is we usually cap the SMSF advice at four nine five o, but that's obviously incumbent on the benefit that you get as well. So I need to make sure I can actually save you that. Otherwise, that wouldn't be worth going through all the rigmarole.\n\nAbsolutely. Awesome. Cool. I'm glad to have had this chat. This is, again, one of the most exotic setups I've seen, and it's actually pretty fun.\n\nI I told the guys this before because they all left at five because, you know, clock watches and the rest. I said, I've got a couple of them about to talk to with three self managed super funds. They said, wow. Can't wait to see what you do with that. I said, first, I gotta get some information first.\n\nI can't just come up with it out of nowhere, but, no, we're starting to paint a bit of a picture, aren't we? No. But the cool thing too is you as you've noticed is once we break it down into smaller chunks, it starts getting clearer what the options are for each chunk. And then once you've got two or three options for each bit and you split out what the time frames are, what's immediate, what's in three years' time, what's in five years' time, all of a sudden, you can make some choices. Yeah.\n\nAnd that's the thing too, is it could very quickly be, yes, you've gotten an extra asset out of it. So fantastic for building it up and then being able to leverage into another asset. That's fantastic, number one. And then number two, if those stocks rebound as well, you've got a pretty healthy balance. You're still on a healthy income level.\n\nYou're not in a bad spot compared to a lot of people. Yeah. Yep. Same. Yeah.\n\nYeah. The amount of shares and things you've got and trading at your age, yeah, absolutely. No. No. Yeah.\n\nNo. I think it's, like you said, you've you've flipped the script a little bit, and good on you for catching it up so quick and in such a short period of time. And it's not, you know, it's it can be scary to to jump in and and do that, but it's it's paid off pretty well so far. So far, it's gonna keep the momentum going, make a few right choices, and you should be sweet. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Right. If not, $3.60. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nWell, that's what a lot of these guys are doing is they're they're buying a few through the super and then holding them until that 60 plus range and then selling them off so they can avoid the capital gains tax. So it's an option. I'm actually writing this down to potentially buy another two properties with that. Like you said, contributors in, potentially leverage off of those. Absolutely.\n\nYep. Or at least have the cash there or offset on the next property that you get, whatever it is. Oh, well, that's one of those ones where I've just been chipping away at it since, well, 2012 now. I'm I'm always every week, every month, but it would be nice for a bit of a pullback. That's for sure.\n\nYes. Yes. It is. Yeah. No.\n\nThere was yeah. There was a few that were sitting there under just under 2, I think, at the time, and was sitting at 30. I mean, I went down to 16 at one point two. Good fun. No.\n\nFor all gold sitting at $6.07. US. Yeah. Yeah. You're right.\n\nAlright. Safe, mate. I'm gonna get going. My my missus just texted me to get home. But it was really lovely meeting you both of you.\n\nAnd when we get through to the other end, I'll I'll jump on the old the video call next time and say hello. And I will I'll be sending you a pretty big email with a few things to get. Once we get the info, I'll probably book in for a bit of a follow-up with you first because there's a couple of other things I wanna run by you first before we go through to the endpoint. Awesome, mate. Well, you guys have a fantastic Easter.\n\nHave you got much on for the Easter weekend? Is it gonna be a quiet one or you zipping around? Yeah. Right. I'll I'll factor that into the plan once you come back with the winnings.\n\nOh, that's gold. Yeah. So when I'm gonna hide it the entire time, and I'll put in as a long term goal professional roulette player and self funded retiree from it. And then that'll be your personal goal. And so when she sees that in the SOA, she'll have a laugh.\n\nOff you went. And you're gonna try it out this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.\n\nI'll try and avoid the casino this weekend because I'm bad for it. I'll just be staying with the kids and eating some chalky. Yes. That's what I'm gonna do is go around and put all that around the yard, put in some spots where the dog won't get it. Yes.\n\nYeah. I've got six and three, and then I've got another one on the way in June. So two boys and a daughter on the way. Yes. That is absolutely enough.\n\nThat is. She convinced me to have just that one more. She goes, I'm not quite done yet, Michael. I am, and I wanna sleep again. But last one and happy days after that.\n\nAnd I'll appreciate it one day. I'll be sitting around hopefully at a big big family table with decades time, and we'll we'll see. Yeah. Well, three rolls of the dice. I'll see how we go.\n\nI look sometimes it's it's three in a row. Sometimes it's three in a row. You see? The odds the odds are I remember last time at the casino, it was three zeros came up, and I was just like, you gotta be kidding on the roulette. And I was like, no.\n\nI'm done. Three zeros because I never go on zero, and I lost quite a bit on that and was just like, no. I'm going for a drink. Oh, that'd be good. Of course.\n\nYeah. I have seen that one. I haven't tried it, but yeah. Yeah. Right.\n\nYeah. Just stack it up. Yeah. Yeah. Double or nothing.\n\nYeah. And that's the nature of gambling. Yeah. Yeah. Far out.\n\nNo. Not the other way around. Yeah. Yeah. Right.\n\nAnd that's the thing. It's just gone against the long term trend, and it's only been the last since, again, January. Otherwise, you would have been gone most of the year after that, before that. Yeah. And, again, it's not doesn't usually take that long, especially for the currencies to fix up.\n\nSo hopefully, year or two max will be good. Steve, what's your what's your availability like next couple of weeks just when the team gives you a call? Is it like mornings or arbos or just text you first? Yep. Okay.\n\nAfternoon. And we usually because we've got that, like, digital phone system. Sometimes it'll come through from the main number. Sometimes it might call through from, like, a mobile. We'll always leave you a voice message, send you a text so you know it's us.\n\nMate, I don't think I've answered a phone call in two years. I don't blame you. Awesome. Easy done, mate. Well, thank you very much for tonight, and have a happy Easter.\n\nYou too. And I should Yep. I should talk to you in the next sort of week or two. I'll give you a bit of an update next week, but there'll be a few more things a week after once we've got a bit of info for you. Awesome, Steve.\n\nTake it easy, mate. Thank you so much. 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Yourself? That's it. Yeah. Well, I had took today off, so I'm good. I just Good. No worries. We actually we're just sitting here with our beach backdrop on the on Google. Yep. Certainly can. Yeah. Hi, Tommy. Good. Thanks. So so are we supposed to be in the Google Meet? We don't really care, to be fair. Like, phone's fine or or that. Yes. Well, it got since Monday, it actually got a bit more interesting. Well so the first phase was we were looking at the redundancy part, but since then, there's a position that's actually opened up at Melinda for a manufacturing manager that potentially will then escalate out or will cascade up to the site leader because, apparently, the current site leader wants to head back south for for family reasons. Yeah. So whereas we were sort of originally looking at, you know, maximum of two years and trying to probably tie everything in before June in that time frame for tax stuff, we we now potentially will look to push you know, that is depending on its role. Could you look to push the other out an extra couple of years even because the potential benefits may well be there. But we've also since we talked to the girls on Monday, we've sort of gone back and rehashed what we wanted to do. We think we know a couple of things because we did ask chat GBT, and they were pretty adamant. But and we think you'll confirm that, but we sort of had a couple of other ideas around what we do with the current property that we've got as well and how we change that up. Yeah. Correct. Well, originally, we thought could because we've actually got we currently got three SMS, two individuals, which we can't do much with because of the massive erosion that we've suffered, but the dividend still is producing. So we're happy to do that. Then we've got the third joint one that's got Harley Bay property tied into it, and we were wondering if we thought we might be able to buy this place as part of the SMSF. And then from the proceeds, put that towards the new property when we if I was to get this job. But Chat was very adamant that we can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. So I've come up with a plan b if we can't do that because we're not overly keen on staying in anyway. So, I mean, it was just an easy outcome if we could do it that way. And we would save, you know, stamp duty not stamp duty, but save, you know, agent fees and all that sort of shit. But plan b was and sort of plan b is evolving as well is that if we were to sell this place, we we think we should net about $200. We one of the things we're looking at is should we could we divvy that up, drop, you know, a percentage keep a percentage to purchase a house? So it does not necessarily 20% because we need 20% during that and then drop the balance into our joint super between us and use that then as the deposit to get either one or two more properties in the joint super. So because I I know that, you know, the more money we put onto the the initial house, the less interest you pay. But currently, the two properties that we own, the the amount they seem to be going up far outweighs what we'd be copping in interest in. You know, if they're investments, we've got someone else paying, you know, a fair proportion. The investment property, we've also got dividends that flow in. So we we also generate at this stage around 1,200 a month in dividends, dropping into that investment property as well. No. No. No. Sorry. We purchased shares in in we've also put in that self managed super fund, that third one. We've also purchased shares in that to generate dividends. That's that's the dividend he's talking about, the joint in the joint super pay. Yeah. So we've got US stocks in all three in all three supers. No. No. Just self managed. Yep. Correct. 9I1H. Yep. Correct. Well, we are about, let's say, $5.10. According we purchased it for $6.41, but realestate.com at the moment has it at I think I thought it said the latest one was $8.50. Yes. That's the one that's that's generating about 1,200 a month in US stocks, about 300 a week. Yep. And as currently, our super also goes into that account. Yep. At this stage. Yep. Yeah. Through all all my stuff through CMC. I haven't looked recently, probably 20 or $30. No. Yeah. And the aim was because we were going to retire in, you know, within that two year, we wanted once our super stopped going into it, we wanted to make sure because we currently receive about 2,400 in rent, and we the contribute we have to pay about 3,600. So the the 1,200, the egg, we always wanted to set it up so that we once we stop working, we didn't have to contribute. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with with the aim as always, we need a few more, but at this stage with the way the markets have been and and the fact that some of these shares have taken a beating because we're we're sitting pretty I've also got a a small amount of growth shares in there like SoFi and Big Bear, but obviously, they're also taking a bit of a pounding, or that's a good time to get back into SoFi. Yes. Yes. Yeah. About 20¢ at least a share. And so some for cases, it was about 30¢ a share. That's only 30¢ a dollar. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the well, mine's sitting on about $2.50, but the book value is about $5.70. But currently, mine's down about 5053%, I think. But it's still it's still generating around $6 a 4 to $6 a month in dividends. Although, the last three months or what, and that was setting up around $14 a month. But, obviously, everything's taken a pounding at the moment. So but we'll yep. No. Correct. Yeah. It's all US. So the current capital is up 73,000, but it the initial capital was 174,000. Yes. And it's been that way since we looked at because when we when we went over to the joint SMS set, the dividends were flowing in a lot better, but the capital had already started to dwindle. And so, yeah, we didn't we didn't wanna sort of sell off to move it across at that time even though we know we're paying, you know, triple the fees. They're all they've all got so they've all been set up properly. I had my SMS since about 2013, maybe 2015. And then Steve got his about 2022. That yeah. 2223. So they've been done, like so mine's got, like, the holding, the entire White Holdings as the trustee for the entire White Superfund. The only one that's got the the bare the bare was it bare trust and the and the acquisition type entity involved is the joint one. That's the one that we pay the higher fees on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you've got two for the to for the property one. Yeah. A little it's not too bad. It the it's so the individuals are worth 12 to 1,300. I think yours was a bit higher because you've got Shit going on. Even more than going on than me. So I think oh, maybe not. That's 700 for the individually for the tax returns for our individual super funds. $2. Plus, of course, the order to fees are, what, $3.85 each a pop. So, yeah, there is some additional fees in there that do. And and maybe maybe it is more worthwhile taking the losses that are in those funds and moving them over. I don't know. Like but, you know, the fees kinda haven't yet overtaken. Do you know what I mean? Like, our biggest concern in that first year, which was 2025, was that we were gonna have profits in our individual ones because that's where we moved all the funds across into the joint one. And then we would have losses that we couldn't actually so we've paid you know, we've now paid tax on these profits that we couldn't offset with the losses in the joint one with, you know, with the setup and everything. Well, I don't know. No. We did ask we asked Carrie Ridgeland, but I'm not I'm not sure, like, while she can set up and do the accounting. I don't know that she's all over SMSF either. So it yeah. And and and probably the biggest concern is, yeah, you know, not being able to offset the the the losses from those other ones anywhere potentially. Like, I don't like, I'm not sure that we can if if we take a well, I guess if we take a loss with the I don't know. I don't know. Well, instead of taking souls in the fact that while they're losing, they're still generating the dividends, which is catching up, and it's at the end. Without the gains they did in the first place, we wouldn't actually have the property. And it's it's sort of climbing at a rate now that's almost keeping pace with what we're losing on one side. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, what well, I guess the hope is that once all this tariff crap takes gets gets passed, we'll get back to some form of normality, and and a number of these shares will start to recover. I think some will probably take it. Now they were never ever gonna get back because of what they are. They were never gonna go into, you know, positive net or anything. But but a number of them well, there's still even a couple now that the net position is still in front even if you sold it off. Your net your net position is in front, but but you wouldn't sell them because of what they're generating in income. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So I feel as though yeah. I feel as though on that, and I'm sorry I didn't mention this sooner, but we will ask the question again. But I feel as though we did ask I at least asked steak. So mine my stuff's in steak. But I feel as though we I asked steak about it. It might be easier because his is with CMC and the and the joint ones are with CMC. But with Stake, I think they said because it's not just going like, because it's not going from Natasha Wyatt to Natasha Wyatt. It's going to a joint one, although it really shouldn't matter to them because the accounting keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member. Team keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member. I will ask the question again. Yeah. Oh, sorry. What was that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what's happened. So I feel as though states said no. The only way to do it was to sell them, but I'm gonna ask that question again. We might need specific wording. I I I feel like Terry did tell us. So is it in it's called an in a specie transfer? SP so is it all one word? Yep. Yeah. Because, really, you're right. It's just that's just the platform. They don't they're not we're not they don't own the shares. They're just the platform, aren't they? So And mine is it's the same platform. So I think that's why Steve went with for the joint one. That's why Steve went with CNC, but our bank accounts are with inquiry for the joint one and for mine. Yes. Yeah. So and that would be most beneficial when we went to sell, for instance, property because we could offset we could also sell some shares, take the loss on the share, and then offset that against the capital gains on the property. Is is that what what we're suggesting? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Which yep. We're good. We got two year gap. Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yes. Yeah. That that's your thing I definitely don't wanna do because at the moment, even that takes away basically the income earning capacity of it. Mhmm. Because you well, you don't have the shoe. You don't have the cash to buy the shoes, so you can't have Yeah. Yeah. Because the the second part of this strategy initially when the full all these terrible shit hit was once they started to generate the income that they were generating, a, we diversified into the property, but then the second phase was to transfer all the balance of the dividends into safer havens. So the lowest shares, which is what my fund's been able to do a decent amount of or some of. Cash is not so much because we were originally trying to get the self net the the joint one back up to a fifty fifty split. So it was never gonna be that. It's the income, like, as you said. And we're not sure. Last week. Payment. And we're not sure that that was a good in hindsight, we're not sure that was a good idea. We probably should have just kept generating dividends or generating shares from the the dividends and and build it that way. So, like, Tash hasn't really invested in shares for some time. So it's like, the hits are being compounded. And mine, as I said, the last few months, I haven't either because all I keep doing is paying fucking tax. Okay. Which that means nothing else I'd like to get away from because I already pay a shitload of tax early salary, so I'd really like to be able to not pay tax because not many other people seem to pay tax in this country. Yeah. It's savings. And and they just they're now putting interest on everything. And the only people obviously paying that are the ones who are actually paying keeping their tax bills so that they don't get rolled that way. So I'm and I'm thinking, well, I'm not sure how that works either. But anyway yeah. So and and I guess no. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's where I guess if this job comes off up north, then that's the other part is, you know, currently, we've managed on what my current salary is. If I jump up to potentially $1.75 and then it could go over 200 if the site manager role comes up as well, which it potentially would is is how do I what can I do to stay at that sort of $1.50 and put everything else into something that works for me? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And that's what I'm thinking. And then with that with that additional that goes through into it, then you, you know, we stick with those safer shares to build them up. So which is, you know because the the original plan was always these yield max ones were always gonna be you ride until death. Just let them keep generating income until they're basically dead. And then in that time frame, we should have had the other shares generating the replacement income in a safer environment. But, unfortunately, I we didn't factor in tariffs and wars and shit like that. Yes. Yes. And this property when we sell because we'll go overseas. Once we're done, we're out of Australia. We're off overseas. So we'll sort of maintain one property, but the proceeds from well, at this stage, the second property will also go back into super and and offset that as well whereas which is why I'm sort of looking now at how many properties can we with the way the property market's gonna go in the next few years, my thoughts are if you can buy two or three now, you're not gonna lose. Yes. Yes. Well, the only upset, I guess, is that is the property itself that has the shares attached to it, which is the one we would buy off. It's gone up considerably, hopefully. I think so. I think, yeah, if we can do something without selling selling shares that we're gonna take a big loss on and then obviously not generate income on them either, then definitely because then we the bare minimum we save Yeah. And the comp just even the complexity around working out which bloody super fund we've paid what for or low Yes. Would would be a benefit. Yeah. Late fees because you thought you'd pay this, but you'd pay that instead. Yes. So yeah. So it Yeah. Definitely with regards to bringing everything together, that would be that would be great if if that's a possibility, For sure. Yep. Depends. I'm sort of open to it because I don't know. There's certainly a lot I don't know as as well. Trying to learn it. But, yeah, I mean, I had a very clear strategy to get so what originally kicked it off, Tommy, was that I hit 53, looked at my super night, at that stage, $200 and an army super that was worth bugger all that I couldn't do anything with, you know, when I can't retire at all at this rate. And so that's where we've sort of turned it around and got the investment, got the income coming in, which, you know, at this stage, the income is still continuing to come in at $600 a month, well, just for my side of it. Not so much for mine. Cash is not quite as much. But also we've got, you know, 1,200 a month coming into the other fund as well. So, you know, all that we've still got, like, $10 or 8 to $10 coming in a month. It's just in dividends at this stage. But yeah. So there's definitely room to tighten tighten that and look for other options where because we've got a property. We've got chairs. So if there's other things that we could potentially I mean, I would like to have gold, but it is a bit expensive at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Potentially, see, the original plan as well was well, part of it was with the cell with the house. It was always gonna only be one. And then once it started, like, at the moment, we've put in aircon and we've in the last twelve months, we've paid a fair bit. We're about to put solar on at about $10. And then once once although we haven't heard back from them yet, once we've done all that, then my plan for that was just to sit once then once I've covered well and truly covered off the share side of it with the extra money coming in to cover all loans and all fees and stuff, it was just gonna sit and accumulate cash because we still get 5.5% cash on that account. That's what you thought. Yeah. But, yeah, like, to have an idea of But, yeah, potentially, it's yeah. If something really good came up, then then we'd definitely be interested in looking at that. But, yeah, I've kind of got the strategy. It's just we've it's taken a bit of a hit that we and, like, the other side of it is we've actually started the best diversifying into looking at at other alternative income streams like online stuff to offset incomes as well just in case. Sorry. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. When I say that, though, we certainly don't need to include any of that income into a plan at this stage. We've been money, I think. We've sold we had sold a T shirt, which generated about which generated about $7 of US income, and we've spent probably $4 of Australian air allowance. Yeah. Getting together quite another little collection of toys. Yes. We've got a lot of toys, so they'll well, they're doing it today. They'll generate cash. I've got a lot of money. So so we've got Alright. Well, see, my whole career has been planning. So that's basically yeah. And then, yeah, as I said, the only thing I didn't plan for was Trump is the best to pay, and There's nothing. So trying to secure oil for himself. Yep. Sounds good. Yep. Awesome. Thanks. The the other question we had is is if is if this job doesn't come up or doesn't come to fruition, and then I do go through the redundancy phase, our our thoughts at this stage were that we've got cash some cash sitting in the bank. Not a whole lot. Not yeah. But it's not a whole lot of redundancy either. No. But I put just before June, we transfer the cash that we've got in the bank into my super and then get the tax benefit from that, hopefully, you know, the other side of it. And then when I get the redundancy put the redundancy money back onto the home loan. Would that but I know that, you know, for the actual redundancy amount, I don't pay tax. And I'm we're thinking that we'd pay 15% on the way in, but I would say, I don't know, 27% or whatever the hell it is on a 150 k salary on the other side. So it would still be would it it would still be beneficial to do that on I'm we're thinking, but we're not a 100% sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take it $1.48 something plus a short term bonus, which I should get still this year in September. Last year, I got the I think it was $16, and it ended up being about 8 in the hand. And that's net of stickers. So the sticker's on top of the salary that he just quoted you. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. So all that, my package is one sixty six, I think. Yeah. I told them I'd want $1.75 to $1.85. Yeah. I'm thinking probably sort of in that circa 02/10 to 02/20 mark. Well, the the application's closed on the April 19. I have been told, which my HR partner who's just left, she's just made took a redundancy, that I've definitely got an interview. So what he probably didn't didn't make clear, I don't know if he did, is that the role that he the role of the lander is with the same company. So Yes. So he's not. So that's one or the other. He either gets so up until Monday, we were planning that he was gonna get the redundancy and still looking for other work. But now he may not get the redundancy if he takes the job at Melanda because it's the same entity. No. Vega. Yep. Yeah. Bigger bigger cheese or bigger root. Vega peanuts out here? Well, yeah, which is which is which is now now that seem to be not bigger peanuts. Not enough. Not not enough telling. I can see, unfortunately. I think I'm on about 95. I know I am on 95 plus super at the moment. No. No. I'm I do the bookkeeping and accounting side. Yeah. Yeah. At this stage, the the plan is to do, like, sort of up to nine months in Southeast Asia. So so far, we've been to Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, and then a couple of few months in Europe. And some of that also depends, Tommy, on whether I'm ready to retire. Yes. If not, because we've got some of the girls in The Philippines, there has been, you know, hints of me working over there, which would put us in The Philippines. And I'm fully supportive of that. He's happy he's happy to be kept. But yeah. But, like, if I'm not because initially when we were talking about Steve wanting to retire at 60, and I'm like, I I don't feel ready yet. So yeah. So is it you know, so if if it was that I was gonna be working for for BE still and they would be happy for me to work out of The Philippines, then that would potentially be our starting place. Yes. Yes. I think it'd be good. It's well, I've seen you as a pain. I suppose that would be alright, wouldn't it? And, like, I would still do the YouTube channel and the websites and stuff that we're doing. So we'd still do a lot. I think Luke's on board with that with it, but I don't know about Steve O. I mean, yeah. I mean, he Steve O wasn't overly happy for people to work from home at all until I moved out here. And then there's another guy in finance that's actually working from I I don't know. I always get it wrong. Serbia or Croatia or something at the moment. Do you know Ollie? Oh, it's okay. Yeah. So where so where is he? I always get it wrong. I always get the plates wrong. Okay. Yeah. Because it's bad mixing up the Croatians in the Serbian. Yeah. We're not supposed to mix. Yes. It's like we we just woke up one morning and went to bloody war. I was trying to learn some greeting when I was in the office and when I was still in on the coast and even when I go into visit, I was trying to learn some greetings. But now I've got out with Ollie. Like, I was just doing, like, a different greeting for each of the different people people from different areas. I'm just trying to think what it was. What is it? Yeah. Is that yeah. What was it? Is that it? I'm sorry. So Anyway, I'm just trying to just, you know Obviously, Tommy, you've been over that way. Visit it with potentially a family. Have you been to Montenegro? Okay. Bad idea. Okay. Okay. Because, yeah, Montana goes away on my to do list. It's really Definitely puts a lot of plans in mind. Well No. No. I mean, when it all first kicked off and it was my dividends were generating around $14, I mean, we thought, well, that we didn't really give it much more thought up. Right? Because that was more than that was about $6 more than I was taking home here. I guess well, the aim of The Philippines is that you can live I guess if we were earning between us sort of somewhere between 7 and 10 and we stayed in the stayed overseas for quite some time, that would that would suffice because the aim of part of the aim of being overseas is that if you live pretty well to, you know, two to four Australian, we would still have three to four that we kept putting back into our super or or sitting as cash, and that was always the plan. I guess it's that by going overseas, we could live on probably half of what our dividend income was and then continue to save, which technically we still currently could do. So for them for now. Yeah. I think it's me. Well, you I'm sorry. The side hustle actually paid off for all the. There's more side than hustle. What's that? Hopefully. Well, that's why it's part of why we're starting now, I suppose, is, you know, get it now while we're able or while we can afford to take the losses and buying all these bloody AI tools and crap. And yeah. There's not a lot of hassle. The other way. Is it more hassle than size? And I hope you have enough. But do we have a T shirt for you? Well, we've got I've got a I'll we should send you a photo, one that we just developed that but you can't we chose still Taser's still working on getting into Australia because we can only The US is so much cheaper. But I've got a I bought a shirt that says bad decision, make good stories. And we've upgraded it and put our own spin on it. And, like, when I was in the state, because I was just I've just come back from Vegas. And then when I was in the airports on the way out of Vegas and out of LA, I reckon four at least four people commented on how they like the shirt. So we've got we've got we've got a couple of them. I've got a couple more designs, but one of them is a little bit less a little bit less sensitive. So when I'm going into, like, the Delta One lounges and stuff, I choose not to wear it, and Tash probably don't wanna see it. It doesn't wanna be with. I've got another one that I really like that says fuck your feelings. Okay. Mhmm. Yep. We can do we can do that. Yeah. Because we have we've been buying a couple of samples to see how the print is sent out on them and and see what the actual blanks are like in the wash and all that sort of stuff, but we haven't actually got heaps of them yet. But yeah. I'm also trying to get them I got a mate group that I'm trying to get. Once we can get them into Australia at a, you know, at a reasonable price, I'm I'm thinking my mate group will buy the ones along those lines as well. So but, yeah, they're they're not too bad. So we'll we'll see how that goes. And between that, the shirts, and then all the other stuff we're doing, we've got a couple of YouTube channels kicking off and, you know, obviously, got a bit of work to do because we're old and and we've gotta learn all this stuff, but we're getting it. Yeah. I've got three bloody TikTok channels going. Yeah. I've got we got armchair. So if you look for Armchair Amigos or Armchair Traders, And then I've just kicked off a new YouTube channel that's only got one video on it at the moment. And, again, it's saying for older people, but it's called Longevity Labs AU. So I've started to delve into, like, MNN and and and a few other bits and pieces like that and and sleep patterns and creatine and things like that to for as you get older. That's us. That's scary. Subscribe and like, mate. Hit the bell. Good good to watch if you're having trouble getting to sleep at this stage. And I fully understand what they're talking about. Oh, and look, we know that they could use that they could be better. We just don't know how to make them better yet. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Same thing. It's like you, you know, you start a job or whatever, a career, and you don't know much, and then you you persevere and learn. So currently, I'm supply chain manager. Yep. But in in the past, I've done, like, a host of supply chain production, process improvement, production planning, had my own business, been a personal trainer, taught personal training, worked on mine sites, worked on Southmore Island, Army, did five and a half years in the army. Yeah. But certainly, up the East Coast Of Australia, I have there's not too many places I haven't been. Two. Yep. It's one for all three or just join? Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Do you so is it is it just do you wanna send us an email of what you need from us, or do you just want us to take a note now? Trustees and statements. Trustees. Okay. Yeah. And are we sending that to you or to what was the lady's name? Just just one? Just one? Yeah. Because Bernadine was is bigger. Sorry. Who who was the no. Who was the lady that sent us the in the invite to the Jordan. Sorry. Yep. Yep. Okay. Alright. Indeed. So info at. Yep. No. No. I a few years back, quite a few now, when the kids were little, I did go through it wasn't bankruptcy, but I I went with Christians Against Poverty. They helped me to sort of minimize like, do a budget minimize. It was when the kids were little and I was on my own and helped me to to minimize some of the debt that I had as well as paying some of it off. Does that Correct. And and then they negotiated with, you know, Westpac. I think I had a credit card with them, but and things like that. It's supposed to it wasn't supposed to ever affect your credit rating, which I believe it hasn't. I don't know. Yep. No. We we both got loans and stuff for all these. So I think Yeah. I don't is that why you were asking no, Tommy? Was it for for that sort of info? Like, No. No. Yeah. And the only one's got through work. So we've got health insurance, but that that's not you're talking about life and income protection, aren't you? I don't think we've got either of those. Yeah. I don't I don't think we've got And I need it for for at the start, but I don't know. And whatever Steve's got then. Yeah. I just use my work one. Yep. Yeah. Well, I don't have kids. So, basically, for me, everything goes to Tash anyway. So, well, we'll actually, people get our wheels done. Do is get our wheels done. That's probably more important. So neither of us have got, yeah, like, dependent now? Yes. Yeah. I've got three adult children. They live on the coast. No. Nope. I've got the cat and the dog, which is what my superfund is all structured around. Or named around. Named around. Yeah. Okay. Well, we've got the I've got the no brainer Marcel because that's the cat's name, and he's the boss. And I've got the Indian Marcel Superfund, but then our joint our joint fund is much better. It's the Tony and Ezekiel. Have you seen the YouTube video of what's your name? Yep. What's your name? Says fuck you, Tony. Fuck you, Ezekiel. Yes. Yep. Yes. So we've got Tony and Ezekiel super punch because and and it's Foxconn uniform, which was the Yeah. But we had to have I think Steve and Pat, we we just have Foxtrot Uniform as trustee for the Titanium Physiology Superfund. We had to I think it had to be Steve and Tash or something. Foxtrot uniform, which took a bit of polish off it, but, you know, sentiment's still the same. Yeah. Any problem when the accountant sends us letters, they keep they keep addressing it to Tony. It's like there's no Tony here. It's just the name on the fund. Yes. Yep. We have no idea what it is. Oh, yeah. The old maybe that's that was that was the first thing I might wish to do. We we keep We lost we lost if it set up a bill. It's a bit black. I know. Yep. Okay. Well, my manager's talking about that, actually, and we wanna we do wanna set it up so that that somehow So that we don't know. We don't have to sell the properties prematurely upon the other one's death, but that once there's a once the time comes to sell the properties That Cash's kids get a portion of it. Yeah. That it can be you know, if that's possible. Well, that's probably something we need to speak to a solicitor about, isn't it? Is that Yeah. And is that is that trust structure? I I sort of have seen a few things coming through on Instagram about how if you I I don't know if this is correct, but if you don't have the trust structure that there's more tax involved. Is is that is that the structure that kind of avoids that death tax? The yeah. The death tax? Yeah. Yeah. Right. So that's where they could cop tax on it that's unnecessary. Yep. Yeah. I heard about that too. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's all stuff we need to be aware of and plan for at the time or closer to the time. Because I think you have to pull a certain amount out each year or something, don't you? And then but then you can, yeah, put it back in. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna guess they're all things that, yeah, potentially we and I guess as as we've sort of alluded, some of it, it just depends on which way it goes as to what we do next with with where we're headed. But I do like the idea of taking this manufacturing role and staying on for another probably three or four years and just really consolidating everything So we're in a good in a good spot to pull the pin in a and hence why I wanna look at potentially, you know, buying using this close to get another couple of houses. Yep. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. We definitely wanna get them. Yeah. That would be really cool if we could roll them all in together. Yeah. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yep. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Mm-mm. Yep. Okay. Yeah. For sure. Sounds good. It's I had a look before. It's a signal about 25 k at the moment. Yes. Email Mortgage account. No. No. Said account, but it's doing the same thing. Yep. No. Just the one and the and the yeah. Yep. So, currently, we think it's worth around $3.53 60, and it's it owes well, with the 25 sitting in there, we owe a 150. Well, I'll get I'll get the bonus within this year. I've got also got a lease card that in twelve months leases up. So I either keep it for another two years potentially or sell it off, and then it'll I should generate about $20 from selling it. Credit cards would be fine. Well, they're all negligible now. Okay? They're getting close. Yeah. Personal loan's down to about 6, but it's offsetting my my personal shares. So the the interest that I call it. Yep. I've got about four and a half in one savings just just in basic just a little basic sort of I accumulate money there, and then I push it over when once I know that my bills are covered for the period or whatever. I push it over into the mortgage account. And I'm just back from Vegas, so I've got about three. But I've also got we've also got other shares, personal shares, and crypto and shit, which, you know, everything's but at the moment, none of them are very pretty either. Oh, yeah. Customer's. I've got about 30. I think mine's about 10 or was 10. It's now so I know. It's not much. It's very little bit. Hold on. I'll just that's a little bit me. Yes. That's no. That's a split between the two now. That's I'll just go into so my my personal is sitting at about three, four at the minute. So it was probably, you know, seven to ten pre at all dropping. I'm sorry. I'm just having trouble. It's not playing now. Tommy, I've got so I'm sorry we've kept you over past six. I've got someone here picking me up. Nice to meet you, Tommy. I'll talk to you soon, or we'll send you the details. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So that's I think and then, yeah, then that's pretty much it for all that sort of stuff. It's about six weeks. We've heard we've done because we don't use it much out here. We've got the my car, and then we just got a little a uke, a Commodore uke that we I run around to work in. No. No. Just a lease car. And it's a Subaru XV, so it's probably worth about $30.35. Yeah. Once once I've I gotta pay $11.03 at the June next year. So the thing and I think I should be able to sell it for 30. It's actually it's only got 60 odd thousand k's on it. So Yeah. I guess it'd be good once we know that the like, my my hopes are that as I said, initially, we were heavily into the redundancy phase and looking at that. And at at one stage, we even looked at, you know, many not working for a while and trying to build the side hustles. But because of the length of slowness that they have, we thought, yeah, that's possibly not a good idea. And because we just predominantly didn't initially wanna move down south because it would you know, I'd have to earn considerably more to stay where we're at. Our mortgage is about 1,100. So but moving north would work first because we would buy and we didn't wanna buy because we only wanted, you know, a couple more years. But with recent events, I I think we're sort of looking at options and just looking to show make sure we make sure everything that we're doing because not a lot of people have done this before from what we can see. Like, my all means was a surveyor. He's retired. But, you know, he's got your traditional Aussie shares, you know, BHP and National Bank and all that. And that's what we started with, but it was just gonna be too slow. You know, we'd be working towards 70 five to generate enough income from them to pull the pin. So this is sort of fast tracked to the housing and stuff like that. So now it's just storing up to make sure that, you know, we do have enough decent shares that generate income to live off so we're not eating into the capital. Because that was always the aim, to not have to draw down on the capital, like, sell shares to to have income for each year, because then you're obviously limited you know, how many shares how long you can live. Whereas our aim was always to have the dividends generating. And then as you back up, you then have to start to sell off shares. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Two. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Which is I've had well, actually, just started. I got I got perplexity although I've ran a fucking credit. So I've got perplexity to do a a Forex trading platform for me. So every morning, I log on and it at this stage, I'm only looking at the major the major currencies, gold, silver, and oil. And and it tells me every morning, it tells me what are the ones I need to have a bit of a closer look at based on a set of criteria we've set up to say, yes. It's a strong chance of of being a win, and I'm working on a strategy that you only actually need to generate four trades out of 10. Four trades out of 10 when you're in profit. So it's 34% means I'll be in profit. But, obviously, if you could hit 50%, you know, you're well in profit. Yeah. Because well, one of my aims is, yeah, is to get into options trading. Particularly selling calls is what I wanna sort of get in. Like, I wanna keep that side pretty safe, but just generate income potentially. So once we start to pull a pin, and that was also part of the reasoning why we wanna start to amass cash and and I've bought shares like SoFi and this big bear. Although, if we weren't getting the the solar put on, I'd I'd drop another 10 or $15 in the SoFi because it's it got up it shot up just after we bought them to about $28.30 bucks. And with all that's going on, it's come back down to about 16, and I paid 14 for them. So I'd happily buy another another few 100 of them as a pure growth because I think they'll start to rival the big US banks in the coming years and probably go up to around 75. Like, we've had a lot of we've had an awful lot of shares that if we had to held on to, we would have had a shitload of capital, but we didn't have enough. Like, I had plenty of tear at about $14, and it's now a $160 share. But I didn't have enough to make a substantial difference. You know, I had, like, a couple 100 shares. So even even with the jump, it wasn't usually we can retire, and that's why we threw it all into the dividend stuff. So we we generated about we put together a 160 k in under six months, We which is what we used to buy this Harley Bay property. So since then since then, it's sort of we've taken a smashing because, you know, if the market drops 10%, we'll drop 12. But the other thing is that offsets that is while the market while we drop 12% each week, we also get paid a dividend. It's it's it's okay. It's not as as I said, you know, I was so, like, one of my main shares is NVIDIA, which is a yield max derivative of Nvidia, which, you know, has taken a fucking absolute pounding in The US, thanks to Donald. But it at the time, it was paying I got about 2,300 shares in it at around $20 a share. For most of the time, I was always 30 odd grand even in NAV up, but I'm now $30 down NAV wise. But it was paying anywhere up to $4 a month in dividends. Currently, the I yeah. At one stage, it was, like, a 120% or something crazy. Like, and even now, it's still paying about 1,200 a month. So and they haven't had to do a reverse a reverse what's his name on it. They've so it's still worth 2,300 shares. So if it picks up if they can maintain it and it stays good, it will get back up to, you know, potentially where either loan could pay anywhere up to a thousand bucks a a week in dividends. But but it comes it comes with, obviously, with risk. Like, a a number of the other ones, like, Tesla, which is a derivative of Tesla, you know, they've done the reverse split. So, you know, where where is or I might have had 1,700 shares, they're now 300 shares or 400 shares or whatever. So which means the dividends still largely stay the stay the same, but they've they do cop a bit more of a beating if if the market has a big downturn or there's all this volatility. But, see, I've offset a lot of that with I've got some bonds by this TLTW, which is a bond, a long term US bond share. I've got some SVAL, which is into the the VIX and the volatility. So, you know, it plays on the volatility. But and then the shares I'm trying to offset, and it it's unfortunate. As I said, the last few months, all I've done is, like I think in January, I've paid I've paid 4,800 in tax. And then each month after that, it's still I'm paying, like, nearly $3 a month out of me super in tax to catch up and to get back in front. So because of first yeah. Which was always the aim. It was always you know, we had to go risky at the start to or in our lives, we had to go risky at the start to get up there. So and then back off and divert it out so that we were, you know, down the track because we just didn't like, we weren't it wasn't going anywhere when we had because I had about 200,000 in it. Once you bought ANZ and, you know, all the Aussie shares, you know, you were generating it at such a low rate, and they've been up and down and choppy as well. Like, BHP, you know, BHP hasn't probably really gone up since when we bought it. Originally, eve even though we've sold them, they keep going up and down sort of but, see, I had things like, I had stakes in, I had shares in Tesla that I and Amazon that I picked up for 100, and Amazon's about 200 now. Tesla's up. I bought them at a 130 or something and sold them at about 180, and they're now $3.40. But, again, none of them have had, like, you know, 1,200 shares or 2,000 shares where selling them for 200% gain gives you massive wins. Yeah. So, you know, it was yeah. That's it. And if it if it went pear shaped, like, because, you know, there's two sides to Tesla. But I always thought they'd they would be AI side would be the side that took more. They've worked got better at than the cars anyway. So Yep. Yep. 1970. Yes. Correct. September 21 sixty eight. No. I think no. That I think that pretty much that color is all we're looking to do at this stage, I think. Yeah. Yeah. No. And I guess the next big thing is, yeah, what happens job wise. Like, if this Melinda job comes off, then then I've got a what we sort of already touched on, look at how I I offset that. So but until that happens, which is probably a good two months away before a decision hope is probable, then, you know, it's just play on. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. No. For for any of us. But yeah. No. That sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Trust me. Yes. Because it's not just for shelf and super fun. There's a whole lot of other stuff going on around it. So but Yeah. Yeah. And and that's, I guess, the way we sort of yeah. That validation is to, you know, like, at the moment, whilst our supers look like they're really crappy, you know, if we didn't do what we did, we wouldn't have an investment property that's probably jumped over $200 in a year. You know? And and Yes. Yeah. Well, that's kind of what we are. And that but but it sort of also once the dividend started to drop a little bit and they started to do that, is some of these reverse bloody reverse sales on them. So we dropped the share volume down. We thought, you know, we probably don't wanna rely just because we already knew that, you know, you can't retire. If you've been busy your whole working life, you can't just retire and stop. You gotta keep moving or you or you'll die. So that and this sort of opened our lives and said, alright. So let's let's work on some stuff now that that's not work. And I I watch a lot of YouTube. So, like, I've got YouTube Premium because I watch that much, and I ads shit me. And and, like, we look at all these people, you know, traveling overseas, and and that's their job. And we said, well, let's work on stuff like that where, you know, eventually, when when the time comes, hopefully, we're monetized on YouTube, making a little bit of stuff there. Like, I'm looking at getting you know, we'll look at getting some products, some affiliate marketing, some do do some digital, and a lot of them get into teaching and coaching. And, like, I've actually I was a personal trainer at and coach at Australian Institute of Fitness in Melbourne, so I actually used to teach people how to be personal trainers. So coaching and stuff, I don't mind. It was good fun. So, like, I potentially, you know, I might look to get do some of that where you actually coach people. And because our story is fairly unique and certainly a little bit different from, you know, start young, put all your money into super, and then let compounding in compounding take its toll when you're 60. You know, we because I one of the videos on Amigos is that I challenge the you know, you've gotta have 250 k to buy an investment property in. You know, I I sometimes think that's the super industry. There's one thing I've learned is that if I calculate what I've paid in the super versus what I was able to pull out and put into the SSMS, it's probably only about the same money that I put in. Or actually, it grew by about three or 4%, and I was always in the aggressive brackets because I'm very much risk tolerant, which obviously shows in in what we've done. Yeah. And I've sort of challenged all that because I know that a lot of the big super funds, they're buying into all these dividend funds and stuff that I've got as well. So they're they're generating these huge dividends, and I just don't see how they're passing them on to to the the individual super hovers. But but they've they've gotta be holding on to it or and keeping the dividends for themselves, and you just get the CPI or whatever, which is basically all my super ever went up, CPI. Yeah. So far, yes. That's that's the million dollar question so far. In in five years, what will it be? Yeah. Well, that's and that's why we're sort of yeah. Now's the time. You know, we've got the house. We we're potentially in a position to get another couple, you know, if we and that's where we're looking at splitting this off and putting, you know, like, we when we because what happened out here was I got the job, but we couldn't get anywhere to to rent, which was what we wanted to do. And we'd started investing all our personal money into the shares as well. So we had no cash, so much lying around. So we we scraped together 5%. So we paid a 197,000 for this place three years ago or less than three years ago. Two just a two bedroom unit in Kingaroy, but we scraped together the 5%. And, like, he we never expected it to do what it's done, whereas it's now, you know, probably worth a minimum of $3.50. And if not yeah. And depending on how long we hold it on for, and that's why we thought, well, can we buy this with our super? No. But then I started to think, well, what if if we take the money and give it up and buy a house for ourselves, you know, even if we only use 10%, try and get one personally for 10%, even if we have to pay the mortgage insurance and then try and get another couple through our super or at least another another property in the super. We're buying two properties instead of one. And from where everything I see, prices are only gonna keep going up because the government aren't doing anything to bring prices down. They're actually making it fucking worse in everything they're doing. All their strategies are just making housing worse. Yeah. And that's what you know, you use use one to help pay down the other two and and then I get ownership of, you know, even if we could use one to pay there or you sell off another. If we could buy another two, they grow, and then we use them, sell them off and pay the house outright, and then it's generating pure income. So things Yeah. Because what I've read what what what I've got out of chat is if we were to can put that put a 100 k into their supers out of it, it potentially would, on the back end, give us about a 20,000 15 to $20,000 tax check back next the following year for for the contributions, which we could then dump straight back in on something or have yeah. Or, yeah, have cash or if if gold could take a bit of a like a $2,000 dip. Yeah. But mind you, if you if you've sat on some since 2012, it'd be looking pretty nice because it would have been under well, it would have been 1 well, under a grand, I reckon, in 2012. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it'll ever get back to those levels because what's sitting at about $4.07 at the moment, $4.06 or something at the moment, $6.07. I was a yeah. My I'm probably thinking US 4 seven. Yeah. So Alright. Yep. Yep. No worries. Perfect. Yep. Yep. No. No problem. Excellent. I'm off I didn't actually realize it was Easter weekend, so I'm off to Sydney tomorrow to watch the dragon Saturday night and then hopefully head off to the casino and win some money at the casino on the roulette strategy I first tried in Vegas. Yes. Yes. That's the clear that could be the other stream professional roulette player. If if you could just pop if you could pop that in just for shits and giggles and I'll and highlight that one for Tash. Yep. Yes. Yes. That's it. Yeah. Because she I went to Vegas to the, you know, for the opening round, and, of course, she has an absolutely zero interest in football or gambling. So so she stayed on with the animals, and so I said, well, instead of doing that, right, I'll find business class with Delta. And so that's what I did through business class with Delta, stayed at Circa on Fremont Street. I only went for a week and had an absolute blast. So yep. Yeah. I I tried it one. I got a couple of photos with a fair chunk of going to pick up. Started with 210 $212,100 only because I couldn't be bothered to keep going. And and I didn't wanna lose that 1,200, but it it's pretty slow and steady, but, yeah, it seems to do alright. Yes. Good good idea. Nice. Oh, are we doing a are you doing an egg hunt? Yes. Yep. So you've obviously got kids young enough that they're into the still into the egg hunt and all. You got you got kids where it's nice to have kids. Oh, no. It's okay. Oh, and you can okay. So that's that's enough then, or we're gonna fill the mini van? Yes. Yeah. It looks. Yeah. Yep. Particularly if, you know, one of them can achieve. If you can if you can bring out some achievers, then I think that's like my sister, she's got pretty lucky. Both her kids must take after their uncle. And so, yeah, she's done pretty well, whereas poor old Cass is well, her kids have probably got a got a a little bit of learning and growing up to still do. Yeah. Yeah. You think your chances are pretty good to get one good one. Yes. That's it. That's exactly it. Yep. Yeah. Well, I went to we went to Townsville for mate and I caught up in Townsville for a Cowboys game and Dragons game, and we went off to the casino. And I I dropped $200 in, like, five minutes. And I'm like, fucking hell. So then I thought, well, that's not good when I go to Vegas. So I I've YouTubed and watched all these strategies, and and I played this free roulette online on the phone. I played it played and played, and I stuck with one that I keep coming back to one, which was you bet $10 on one to 18 and $10 on even. If one of them gets up well, if one of them gets up, you get your money back. If both of them get up, you you double your money. And, of course, if neither of them get up, you lose. But then the strategy I play is you then double it up after that. So you go from 20 to 40 or depending on the table thing, and that's what I was doing in Vegas. But then I also throw in and have a look for patterns. So, like, I've I've watched enough where I learned that, you know, if three, say, one to 12 came up, then the chances of the fourth were slim and the chances of the fifth were even slimmer. So sometimes I will change, or if you get three reds in a row, you know, the chances of four is slim, and five is slimmer. So I will sometimes offset, you know, and do slightly different, but keep coming back to that strategy. And that's what I've what slow and steady one. But you've gotta have a bank because you've gotta be able to suffer three or four losses in a row and still double up. You know, still keep. Yeah. So it's you know, you can and and, unfortunately, being what it is, you know, you can get aid in a row that go against you. And then you you go on and you drop $2 because I wanted to have a $2 bank was the aim to be able to sustain it for $2 worth. But then, like, when I actually got over there, I'm not adverse to having a $50 bet on the horses or something, but dropping $2 in a hand, I went, oh, I'm not sure if I I wanna do that. So I got to 1,200 and went, yep. That'll do. So I've actually got 1,600. That's why I know fully what you're talking about, US cash or cash rate, because that's also hit as hard as, you know, the fact that the the dollar on the flip side unfortunately, now is the time we put money across to The US or more so than pulling it pulling it out, whereas, yeah, it's dropped a minimum of 20¢ a dollar, which is killing me on the other side. And I've still got 1,600 US in your wallet, but I want it and every time it starts to go, you can't exchange it in freaking King Royce, so I have to wait till I get to the city. And every time it starts to go up, it comes back down, and I'm thinking, oh, man. And I've yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it'll it should once it all does settles down again and we get back to some form of normality within the world, then I think it'll start to level itself out again. But, yeah, for now, it's a bit of a worry. Yeah. Yes. Are those generally better? Like, if I've got meetings, it's usually gonna be mornings and the like. But if are those generally better for me? Yep. Cool. Yeah. Excellent. Because a lot of times, no, I don't know. With this the number of scammers you're getting now, if if it doesn't leave a message, I won't ring back. So yeah. But no. But that's fine. That's good. Alright. I better let you get home to the missus. You too, and we'll talk soon. Perfect. Awesome. Thank you, mate. 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Yourself? That's it. Yeah. Well, I had took today off, so I'm good.\n\nI just Good. No worries. We actually we're just sitting here with our beach backdrop on the on Google. Yep. Certainly can.\n\nYeah. Hi, Tommy. Good. Thanks. So so are we supposed to be in the Google Meet?\n\nWe don't really care, to be fair. Like, phone's fine or or that. Yes. Well, it got since Monday, it actually got a bit more interesting. Well so the first phase was we were looking at the redundancy part, but since then, there's a position that's actually opened up at Melinda for a manufacturing manager that potentially will then escalate out or will cascade up to the site leader because, apparently, the current site leader wants to head back south for for family reasons.\n\nYeah. So whereas we were sort of originally looking at, you know, maximum of two years and trying to probably tie everything in before June in that time frame for tax stuff, we we now potentially will look to push you know, that is depending on its role. Could you look to push the other out an extra couple of years even because the potential benefits may well be there. But we've also since we talked to the girls on Monday, we've sort of gone back and rehashed what we wanted to do. We think we know a couple of things because we did ask chat GBT, and they were pretty adamant.\n\nBut and we think you'll confirm that, but we sort of had a couple of other ideas around what we do with the current property that we've got as well and how we change that up. Yeah. Correct. Well, originally, we thought could because we've actually got we currently got three SMS, two individuals, which we can't do much with because of the massive erosion that we've suffered, but the dividend still is producing. So we're happy to do that.\n\nThen we've got the third joint one that's got Harley Bay property tied into it, and we were wondering if we thought we might be able to buy this place as part of the SMSF. And then from the proceeds, put that towards the new property when we if I was to get this job. But Chat was very adamant that we can't do that. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nSo I've come up with a plan b if we can't do that because we're not overly keen on staying in anyway. So, I mean, it was just an easy outcome if we could do it that way. And we would save, you know, stamp duty not stamp duty, but save, you know, agent fees and all that sort of shit. But plan b was and sort of plan b is evolving as well is that if we were to sell this place, we we think we should net about $200. We one of the things we're looking at is should we could we divvy that up, drop, you know, a percentage keep a percentage to purchase a house?\n\nSo it does not necessarily 20% because we need 20% during that and then drop the balance into our joint super between us and use that then as the deposit to get either one or two more properties in the joint super. So because I I know that, you know, the more money we put onto the the initial house, the less interest you pay. But currently, the two properties that we own, the the amount they seem to be going up far outweighs what we'd be copping in interest in. You know, if they're investments, we've got someone else paying, you know, a fair proportion. The investment property, we've also got dividends that flow in.\n\nSo we we also generate at this stage around 1,200 a month in dividends, dropping into that investment property as well. No. No. No. Sorry.\n\nWe purchased shares in in we've also put in that self managed super fund, that third one. We've also purchased shares in that to generate dividends. That's that's the dividend he's talking about, the joint in the joint super pay. Yeah. So we've got US stocks in all three in all three supers.\n\nNo. No. Just self managed. Yep. Correct.\n\n9I1H. Yep. Correct. Well, we are about, let's say, $5.10. According we purchased it for $6.41, but realestate.com at the moment has it at I think I thought it said the latest one was $8.50.\n\nYes. That's the one that's that's generating about 1,200 a month in US stocks, about 300 a week. Yep. And as currently, our super also goes into that account. Yep.\n\nAt this stage. Yep. Yeah. Through all all my stuff through CMC. I haven't looked recently, probably 20 or $30.\n\nNo. Yeah. And the aim was because we were going to retire in, you know, within that two year, we wanted once our super stopped going into it, we wanted to make sure because we currently receive about 2,400 in rent, and we the contribute we have to pay about 3,600. So the the 1,200, the egg, we always wanted to set it up so that we once we stop working, we didn't have to contribute. Yeah.\n\nYeah. I mean, with with the aim as always, we need a few more, but at this stage with the way the markets have been and and the fact that some of these shares have taken a beating because we're we're sitting pretty I've also got a a small amount of growth shares in there like SoFi and Big Bear, but obviously, they're also taking a bit of a pounding, or that's a good time to get back into SoFi. Yes. Yes. Yeah.\n\nAbout 20¢ at least a share. And so some for cases, it was about 30¢ a share. That's only 30¢ a dollar. Yep. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Well, the well, mine's sitting on about $2.50, but the book value is about $5.70. But currently, mine's down about 5053%, I think. But it's still it's still generating around $6 a 4 to $6 a month in dividends. Although, the last three months or what, and that was setting up around $14 a month.\n\nBut, obviously, everything's taken a pounding at the moment. So but we'll yep. No. Correct. Yeah.\n\nIt's all US. So the current capital is up 73,000, but it the initial capital was 174,000. Yes. And it's been that way since we looked at because when we when we went over to the joint SMS set, the dividends were flowing in a lot better, but the capital had already started to dwindle. And so, yeah, we didn't we didn't wanna sort of sell off to move it across at that time even though we know we're paying, you know, triple the fees.\n\nThey're all they've all got so they've all been set up properly. I had my SMS since about 2013, maybe 2015. And then Steve got his about 2022. That yeah. 2223.\n\nSo they've been done, like so mine's got, like, the holding, the entire White Holdings as the trustee for the entire White Superfund. The only one that's got the the bare the bare was it bare trust and the and the acquisition type entity involved is the joint one. That's the one that we pay the higher fees on. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Because you've got two for the to for the property one. Yeah. A little it's not too bad.\n\nIt the it's so the individuals are worth 12 to 1,300. I think yours was a bit higher because you've got Shit going on. Even more than going on than me. So I think oh, maybe not. That's 700 for the individually for the tax returns for our individual super funds.\n\n$2. Plus, of course, the order to fees are, what, $3.85 each a pop. So, yeah, there is some additional fees in there that do. And and maybe maybe it is more worthwhile taking the losses that are in those funds and moving them over. I don't know.\n\nLike but, you know, the fees kinda haven't yet overtaken. Do you know what I mean? Like, our biggest concern in that first year, which was 2025, was that we were gonna have profits in our individual ones because that's where we moved all the funds across into the joint one. And then we would have losses that we couldn't actually so we've paid you know, we've now paid tax on these profits that we couldn't offset with the losses in the joint one with, you know, with the setup and everything. Well, I don't know.\n\nNo. We did ask we asked Carrie Ridgeland, but I'm not I'm not sure, like, while she can set up and do the accounting. I don't know that she's all over SMSF either. So it yeah. And and and probably the biggest concern is, yeah, you know, not being able to offset the the the losses from those other ones anywhere potentially.\n\nLike, I don't like, I'm not sure that we can if if we take a well, I guess if we take a loss with the I don't know. I don't know. Well, instead of taking souls in the fact that while they're losing, they're still generating the dividends, which is catching up, and it's at the end. Without the gains they did in the first place, we wouldn't actually have the property. And it's it's sort of climbing at a rate now that's almost keeping pace with what we're losing on one side.\n\nYeah. Yeah. And I think that, what well, I guess the hope is that once all this tariff crap takes gets gets passed, we'll get back to some form of normality, and and a number of these shares will start to recover. I think some will probably take it. Now they were never ever gonna get back because of what they are.\n\nThey were never gonna go into, you know, positive net or anything. But but a number of them well, there's still even a couple now that the net position is still in front even if you sold it off. Your net your net position is in front, but but you wouldn't sell them because of what they're generating in income. Yeah. Yes.\n\nYeah. Okay. So I feel as though yeah. I feel as though on that, and I'm sorry I didn't mention this sooner, but we will ask the question again. But I feel as though we did ask I at least asked steak.\n\nSo mine my stuff's in steak. But I feel as though we I asked steak about it. It might be easier because his is with CMC and the and the joint ones are with CMC. But with Stake, I think they said because it's not just going like, because it's not going from Natasha Wyatt to Natasha Wyatt. It's going to a joint one, although it really shouldn't matter to them because the accounting keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member.\n\nTeam keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member. I will ask the question again. Yeah. Oh, sorry. What was that?\n\nYeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what's happened.\n\nSo I feel as though states said no. The only way to do it was to sell them, but I'm gonna ask that question again. We might need specific wording. I I I feel like Terry did tell us. So is it in it's called an in a specie transfer?\n\nSP so is it all one word? Yep. Yeah. Because, really, you're right. It's just that's just the platform.\n\nThey don't they're not we're not they don't own the shares. They're just the platform, aren't they? So And mine is it's the same platform. So I think that's why Steve went with for the joint one. That's why Steve went with CNC, but our bank accounts are with inquiry for the joint one and for mine.\n\nYes. Yeah. So and that would be most beneficial when we went to sell, for instance, property because we could offset we could also sell some shares, take the loss on the share, and then offset that against the capital gains on the property. Is is that what what we're suggesting? Yeah.\n\nOkay. Yeah. Which yep. We're good. We got two year gap.\n\nYeah. Yes. Yep. Yes. Yeah.\n\nThat that's your thing I definitely don't wanna do because at the moment, even that takes away basically the income earning capacity of it. Mhmm. Because you well, you don't have the shoe. You don't have the cash to buy the shoes, so you can't have Yeah. Yeah.\n\nBecause the the second part of this strategy initially when the full all these terrible shit hit was once they started to generate the income that they were generating, a, we diversified into the property, but then the second phase was to transfer all the balance of the dividends into safer havens. So the lowest shares, which is what my fund's been able to do a decent amount of or some of. Cash is not so much because we were originally trying to get the self net the the joint one back up to a fifty fifty split. So it was never gonna be that. It's the income, like, as you said.\n\nAnd we're not sure. Last week. Payment. And we're not sure that that was a good in hindsight, we're not sure that was a good idea. We probably should have just kept generating dividends or generating shares from the the dividends and and build it that way.\n\nSo, like, Tash hasn't really invested in shares for some time. So it's like, the hits are being compounded. And mine, as I said, the last few months, I haven't either because all I keep doing is paying fucking tax. Okay. Which that means nothing else I'd like to get away from because I already pay a shitload of tax early salary, so I'd really like to be able to not pay tax because not many other people seem to pay tax in this country.\n\nYeah. It's savings. And and they just they're now putting interest on everything. And the only people obviously paying that are the ones who are actually paying keeping their tax bills so that they don't get rolled that way. So I'm and I'm thinking, well, I'm not sure how that works either.\n\nBut anyway yeah. So and and I guess no. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's where I guess if this job comes off up north, then that's the other part is, you know, currently, we've managed on what my current salary is.\n\nIf I jump up to potentially $1.75 and then it could go over 200 if the site manager role comes up as well, which it potentially would is is how do I what can I do to stay at that sort of $1.50 and put everything else into something that works for me? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And that's what I'm thinking.\n\nAnd then with that with that additional that goes through into it, then you, you know, we stick with those safer shares to build them up. So which is, you know because the the original plan was always these yield max ones were always gonna be you ride until death. Just let them keep generating income until they're basically dead. And then in that time frame, we should have had the other shares generating the replacement income in a safer environment. But, unfortunately, I we didn't factor in tariffs and wars and shit like that.\n\nYes. Yes. And this property when we sell because we'll go overseas. Once we're done, we're out of Australia. We're off overseas.\n\nSo we'll sort of maintain one property, but the proceeds from well, at this stage, the second property will also go back into super and and offset that as well whereas which is why I'm sort of looking now at how many properties can we with the way the property market's gonna go in the next few years, my thoughts are if you can buy two or three now, you're not gonna lose. Yes. Yes. Well, the only upset, I guess, is that is the property itself that has the shares attached to it, which is the one we would buy off. It's gone up considerably, hopefully.\n\nI think so. I think, yeah, if we can do something without selling selling shares that we're gonna take a big loss on and then obviously not generate income on them either, then definitely because then we the bare minimum we save Yeah. And the comp just even the complexity around working out which bloody super fund we've paid what for or low Yes. Would would be a benefit. Yeah.\n\nLate fees because you thought you'd pay this, but you'd pay that instead. Yes. So yeah. So it Yeah. Definitely with regards to bringing everything together, that would be that would be great if if that's a possibility, For sure.\n\nYep. Depends. I'm sort of open to it because I don't know. There's certainly a lot I don't know as as well. Trying to learn it.\n\nBut, yeah, I mean, I had a very clear strategy to get so what originally kicked it off, Tommy, was that I hit 53, looked at my super night, at that stage, $200 and an army super that was worth bugger all that I couldn't do anything with, you know, when I can't retire at all at this rate. And so that's where we've sort of turned it around and got the investment, got the income coming in, which, you know, at this stage, the income is still continuing to come in at $600 a month, well, just for my side of it. Not so much for mine. Cash is not quite as much. But also we've got, you know, 1,200 a month coming into the other fund as well.\n\nSo, you know, all that we've still got, like, $10 or 8 to $10 coming in a month. It's just in dividends at this stage. But yeah. So there's definitely room to tighten tighten that and look for other options where because we've got a property. We've got chairs.\n\nSo if there's other things that we could potentially I mean, I would like to have gold, but it is a bit expensive at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Potentially, see, the original plan as well was well, part of it was with the cell with the house. It was always gonna only be one.\n\nAnd then once it started, like, at the moment, we've put in aircon and we've in the last twelve months, we've paid a fair bit. We're about to put solar on at about $10. And then once once although we haven't heard back from them yet, once we've done all that, then my plan for that was just to sit once then once I've covered well and truly covered off the share side of it with the extra money coming in to cover all loans and all fees and stuff, it was just gonna sit and accumulate cash because we still get 5.5% cash on that account. That's what you thought. Yeah.\n\nBut, yeah, like, to have an idea of But, yeah, potentially, it's yeah. If something really good came up, then then we'd definitely be interested in looking at that. But, yeah, I've kind of got the strategy. It's just we've it's taken a bit of a hit that we and, like, the other side of it is we've actually started the best diversifying into looking at at other alternative income streams like online stuff to offset incomes as well just in case. Sorry.\n\nYeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. When I say that, though, we certainly don't need to include any of that income into a plan at this stage. We've been money, I think.\n\nWe've sold we had sold a T shirt, which generated about which generated about $7 of US income, and we've spent probably $4 of Australian air allowance. Yeah. Getting together quite another little collection of toys. Yes. We've got a lot of toys, so they'll well, they're doing it today.\n\nThey'll generate cash. I've got a lot of money. So so we've got Alright. Well, see, my whole career has been planning. So that's basically yeah.\n\nAnd then, yeah, as I said, the only thing I didn't plan for was Trump is the best to pay, and There's nothing. So trying to secure oil for himself. Yep. Sounds good. Yep.\n\nAwesome. Thanks. The the other question we had is is if is if this job doesn't come up or doesn't come to fruition, and then I do go through the redundancy phase, our our thoughts at this stage were that we've got cash some cash sitting in the bank. Not a whole lot. Not yeah.\n\nBut it's not a whole lot of redundancy either. No. But I put just before June, we transfer the cash that we've got in the bank into my super and then get the tax benefit from that, hopefully, you know, the other side of it. And then when I get the redundancy put the redundancy money back onto the home loan. Would that but I know that, you know, for the actual redundancy amount, I don't pay tax.\n\nAnd I'm we're thinking that we'd pay 15% on the way in, but I would say, I don't know, 27% or whatever the hell it is on a 150 k salary on the other side. So it would still be would it it would still be beneficial to do that on I'm we're thinking, but we're not a 100% sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take it $1.48 something plus a short term bonus, which I should get still this year in September.\n\nLast year, I got the I think it was $16, and it ended up being about 8 in the hand. And that's net of stickers. So the sticker's on top of the salary that he just quoted you. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nCorrect. So all that, my package is one sixty six, I think. Yeah. I told them I'd want $1.75 to $1.85. Yeah.\n\nI'm thinking probably sort of in that circa 02/10 to 02/20 mark. Well, the the application's closed on the April 19. I have been told, which my HR partner who's just left, she's just made took a redundancy, that I've definitely got an interview. So what he probably didn't didn't make clear, I don't know if he did, is that the role that he the role of the lander is with the same company. So Yes.\n\nSo he's not. So that's one or the other. He either gets so up until Monday, we were planning that he was gonna get the redundancy and still looking for other work. But now he may not get the redundancy if he takes the job at Melanda because it's the same entity. No.\n\nVega. Yep. Yeah. Bigger bigger cheese or bigger root. Vega peanuts out here?\n\nWell, yeah, which is which is which is now now that seem to be not bigger peanuts. Not enough. Not not enough telling. I can see, unfortunately. I think I'm on about 95.\n\nI know I am on 95 plus super at the moment. No. No. I'm I do the bookkeeping and accounting side. Yeah.\n\nYeah. At this stage, the the plan is to do, like, sort of up to nine months in Southeast Asia. So so far, we've been to Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, and then a couple of few months in Europe. And some of that also depends, Tommy, on whether I'm ready to retire. Yes.\n\nIf not, because we've got some of the girls in The Philippines, there has been, you know, hints of me working over there, which would put us in The Philippines. And I'm fully supportive of that. He's happy he's happy to be kept. But yeah. But, like, if I'm not because initially when we were talking about Steve wanting to retire at 60, and I'm like, I I don't feel ready yet.\n\nSo yeah. So is it you know, so if if it was that I was gonna be working for for BE still and they would be happy for me to work out of The Philippines, then that would potentially be our starting place. Yes. Yes. I think it'd be good.\n\nIt's well, I've seen you as a pain. I suppose that would be alright, wouldn't it? And, like, I would still do the YouTube channel and the websites and stuff that we're doing. So we'd still do a lot. I think Luke's on board with that with it, but I don't know about Steve O.\n\nI mean, yeah. I mean, he Steve O wasn't overly happy for people to work from home at all until I moved out here. And then there's another guy in finance that's actually working from I I don't know. I always get it wrong. Serbia or Croatia or something at the moment.\n\nDo you know Ollie? Oh, it's okay. Yeah. So where so where is he? I always get it wrong.\n\nI always get the plates wrong. Okay. Yeah. Because it's bad mixing up the Croatians in the Serbian. Yeah.\n\nWe're not supposed to mix. Yes. It's like we we just woke up one morning and went to bloody war. I was trying to learn some greeting when I was in the office and when I was still in on the coast and even when I go into visit, I was trying to learn some greetings. But now I've got out with Ollie.\n\nLike, I was just doing, like, a different greeting for each of the different people people from different areas. I'm just trying to think what it was. What is it? Yeah. Is that yeah.\n\nWhat was it? Is that it? I'm sorry. So Anyway, I'm just trying to just, you know Obviously, Tommy, you've been over that way. Visit it with potentially a family.\n\nHave you been to Montenegro? Okay. Bad idea. Okay. Okay.\n\nBecause, yeah, Montana goes away on my to do list. It's really Definitely puts a lot of plans in mind. Well No. No. I mean, when it all first kicked off and it was my dividends were generating around $14, I mean, we thought, well, that we didn't really give it much more thought up.\n\nRight? Because that was more than that was about $6 more than I was taking home here. I guess well, the aim of The Philippines is that you can live I guess if we were earning between us sort of somewhere between 7 and 10 and we stayed in the stayed overseas for quite some time, that would that would suffice because the aim of part of the aim of being overseas is that if you live pretty well to, you know, two to four Australian, we would still have three to four that we kept putting back into our super or or sitting as cash, and that was always the plan. I guess it's that by going overseas, we could live on probably half of what our dividend income was and then continue to save, which technically we still currently could do. So for them for now.\n\nYeah. I think it's me. Well, you I'm sorry. The side hustle actually paid off for all the. There's more side than hustle.\n\nWhat's that? Hopefully. Well, that's why it's part of why we're starting now, I suppose, is, you know, get it now while we're able or while we can afford to take the losses and buying all these bloody AI tools and crap. And yeah. There's not a lot of hassle.\n\nThe other way. Is it more hassle than size? And I hope you have enough. But do we have a T shirt for you? Well, we've got I've got a I'll we should send you a photo, one that we just developed that but you can't we chose still Taser's still working on getting into Australia because we can only The US is so much cheaper.\n\nBut I've got a I bought a shirt that says bad decision, make good stories. And we've upgraded it and put our own spin on it. And, like, when I was in the state, because I was just I've just come back from Vegas. And then when I was in the airports on the way out of Vegas and out of LA, I reckon four at least four people commented on how they like the shirt. So we've got we've got we've got a couple of them.\n\nI've got a couple more designs, but one of them is a little bit less a little bit less sensitive. So when I'm going into, like, the Delta One lounges and stuff, I choose not to wear it, and Tash probably don't wanna see it. It doesn't wanna be with. I've got another one that I really like that says fuck your feelings. Okay.\n\nMhmm. Yep. We can do we can do that. Yeah. Because we have we've been buying a couple of samples to see how the print is sent out on them and and see what the actual blanks are like in the wash and all that sort of stuff, but we haven't actually got heaps of them yet.\n\nBut yeah. I'm also trying to get them I got a mate group that I'm trying to get. Once we can get them into Australia at a, you know, at a reasonable price, I'm I'm thinking my mate group will buy the ones along those lines as well. So but, yeah, they're they're not too bad. So we'll we'll see how that goes.\n\nAnd between that, the shirts, and then all the other stuff we're doing, we've got a couple of YouTube channels kicking off and, you know, obviously, got a bit of work to do because we're old and and we've gotta learn all this stuff, but we're getting it. Yeah. I've got three bloody TikTok channels going. Yeah. I've got we got armchair.\n\nSo if you look for Armchair Amigos or Armchair Traders, And then I've just kicked off a new YouTube channel that's only got one video on it at the moment. And, again, it's saying for older people, but it's called Longevity Labs AU. So I've started to delve into, like, MNN and and and a few other bits and pieces like that and and sleep patterns and creatine and things like that to for as you get older. That's us. That's scary.\n\nSubscribe and like, mate. Hit the bell. Good good to watch if you're having trouble getting to sleep at this stage. And I fully understand what they're talking about. Oh, and look, we know that they could use that they could be better.\n\nWe just don't know how to make them better yet. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Same thing.\n\nIt's like you, you know, you start a job or whatever, a career, and you don't know much, and then you you persevere and learn. So currently, I'm supply chain manager. Yep. But in in the past, I've done, like, a host of supply chain production, process improvement, production planning, had my own business, been a personal trainer, taught personal training, worked on mine sites, worked on Southmore Island, Army, did five and a half years in the army. Yeah.\n\nBut certainly, up the East Coast Of Australia, I have there's not too many places I haven't been. Two. Yep. It's one for all three or just join? Okay.\n\nYep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Do you so is it is it just do you wanna send us an email of what you need from us, or do you just want us to take a note now?\n\nTrustees and statements. Trustees. Okay. Yeah. And are we sending that to you or to what was the lady's name?\n\nJust just one? Just one? Yeah. Because Bernadine was is bigger. Sorry.\n\nWho who was the no. Who was the lady that sent us the in the invite to the Jordan. Sorry. Yep. Yep.\n\nOkay. Alright. Indeed. So info at. Yep.\n\nNo. No. I a few years back, quite a few now, when the kids were little, I did go through it wasn't bankruptcy, but I I went with Christians Against Poverty. They helped me to sort of minimize like, do a budget minimize. It was when the kids were little and I was on my own and helped me to to minimize some of the debt that I had as well as paying some of it off.\n\nDoes that Correct. And and then they negotiated with, you know, Westpac. I think I had a credit card with them, but and things like that. It's supposed to it wasn't supposed to ever affect your credit rating, which I believe it hasn't. I don't know.\n\nYep. No. We we both got loans and stuff for all these. So I think Yeah. I don't is that why you were asking no, Tommy?\n\nWas it for for that sort of info? Like, No. No. Yeah. And the only one's got through work.\n\nSo we've got health insurance, but that that's not you're talking about life and income protection, aren't you? I don't think we've got either of those. Yeah. I don't I don't think we've got And I need it for for at the start, but I don't know. And whatever Steve's got then.\n\nYeah. I just use my work one. Yep. Yeah. Well, I don't have kids.\n\nSo, basically, for me, everything goes to Tash anyway. So, well, we'll actually, people get our wheels done. Do is get our wheels done. That's probably more important. So neither of us have got, yeah, like, dependent now?\n\nYes. Yeah. I've got three adult children. They live on the coast. No.\n\nNope. I've got the cat and the dog, which is what my superfund is all structured around. Or named around. Named around. Yeah.\n\nOkay. Well, we've got the I've got the no brainer Marcel because that's the cat's name, and he's the boss. And I've got the Indian Marcel Superfund, but then our joint our joint fund is much better. It's the Tony and Ezekiel. Have you seen the YouTube video of what's your name?\n\nYep. What's your name? Says fuck you, Tony. Fuck you, Ezekiel. Yes.\n\nYep. Yes. So we've got Tony and Ezekiel super punch because and and it's Foxconn uniform, which was the Yeah. But we had to have I think Steve and Pat, we we just have Foxtrot Uniform as trustee for the Titanium Physiology Superfund. We had to I think it had to be Steve and Tash or something.\n\nFoxtrot uniform, which took a bit of polish off it, but, you know, sentiment's still the same. Yeah. Any problem when the accountant sends us letters, they keep they keep addressing it to Tony. It's like there's no Tony here. It's just the name on the fund.\n\nYes. Yep. We have no idea what it is. Oh, yeah. The old maybe that's that was that was the first thing I might wish to do.\n\nWe we keep We lost we lost if it set up a bill. It's a bit black. I know. Yep. Okay.\n\nWell, my manager's talking about that, actually, and we wanna we do wanna set it up so that that somehow So that we don't know. We don't have to sell the properties prematurely upon the other one's death, but that once there's a once the time comes to sell the properties That Cash's kids get a portion of it. Yeah. That it can be you know, if that's possible. Well, that's probably something we need to speak to a solicitor about, isn't it?\n\nIs that Yeah. And is that is that trust structure? I I sort of have seen a few things coming through on Instagram about how if you I I don't know if this is correct, but if you don't have the trust structure that there's more tax involved. Is is that is that the structure that kind of avoids that death tax? The yeah.\n\nThe death tax? Yeah. Yeah. Right. So that's where they could cop tax on it that's unnecessary.\n\nYep. Yeah. I heard about that too. Okay. Okay.\n\nYeah. Okay. So that's all stuff we need to be aware of and plan for at the time or closer to the time. Because I think you have to pull a certain amount out each year or something, don't you? And then but then you can, yeah, put it back in.\n\nYep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna guess they're all things that, yeah, potentially we and I guess as as we've sort of alluded, some of it, it just depends on which way it goes as to what we do next with with where we're headed.\n\nBut I do like the idea of taking this manufacturing role and staying on for another probably three or four years and just really consolidating everything So we're in a good in a good spot to pull the pin in a and hence why I wanna look at potentially, you know, buying using this close to get another couple of houses. Yep. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.\n\nWe definitely wanna get them. Yeah. That would be really cool if we could roll them all in together. Yeah. Mhmm.\n\nMhmm. Yep. Yes. Yeah. Yep.\n\nMm-mm. Yep. Okay. Yeah. For sure.\n\nSounds good. It's I had a look before. It's a signal about 25 k at the moment. Yes. Email Mortgage account.\n\nNo. No. Said account, but it's doing the same thing. Yep. No.\n\nJust the one and the and the yeah. Yep. So, currently, we think it's worth around $3.53 60, and it's it owes well, with the 25 sitting in there, we owe a 150. Well, I'll get I'll get the bonus within this year. I've got also got a lease card that in twelve months leases up.\n\nSo I either keep it for another two years potentially or sell it off, and then it'll I should generate about $20 from selling it. Credit cards would be fine. Well, they're all negligible now. Okay? They're getting close.\n\nYeah. Personal loan's down to about 6, but it's offsetting my my personal shares. So the the interest that I call it. Yep. I've got about four and a half in one savings just just in basic just a little basic sort of I accumulate money there, and then I push it over when once I know that my bills are covered for the period or whatever.\n\nI push it over into the mortgage account. And I'm just back from Vegas, so I've got about three. But I've also got we've also got other shares, personal shares, and crypto and shit, which, you know, everything's but at the moment, none of them are very pretty either. Oh, yeah. Customer's.\n\nI've got about 30. I think mine's about 10 or was 10. It's now so I know. It's not much. It's very little bit.\n\nHold on. I'll just that's a little bit me. Yes. That's no. That's a split between the two now.\n\nThat's I'll just go into so my my personal is sitting at about three, four at the minute. So it was probably, you know, seven to ten pre at all dropping. I'm sorry. I'm just having trouble. It's not playing now.\n\nTommy, I've got so I'm sorry we've kept you over past six. I've got someone here picking me up. Nice to meet you, Tommy. I'll talk to you soon, or we'll send you the details. Yeah.\n\nYeah. Yeah. But yeah. So that's I think and then, yeah, then that's pretty much it for all that sort of stuff. It's about six weeks.\n\nWe've heard we've done because we don't use it much out here. We've got the my car, and then we just got a little a uke, a Commodore uke that we I run around to work in. No. No. Just a lease car.\n\nAnd it's a Subaru XV, so it's probably worth about $30.35. Yeah. Once once I've I gotta pay $11.03 at the June next year. So the thing and I think I should be able to sell it for 30. It's actually it's only got 60 odd thousand k's on it.\n\nSo Yeah. I guess it'd be good once we know that the like, my my hopes are that as I said, initially, we were heavily into the redundancy phase and looking at that. And at at one stage, we even looked at, you know, many not working for a while and trying to build the side hustles. But because of the length of slowness that they have, we thought, yeah, that's possibly not a good idea. And because we just predominantly didn't initially wanna move down south because it would you know, I'd have to earn considerably more to stay where we're at.\n\nOur mortgage is about 1,100. So but moving north would work first because we would buy and we didn't wanna buy because we only wanted, you know, a couple more years. But with recent events, I I think we're sort of looking at options and just looking to show make sure we make sure everything that we're doing because not a lot of people have done this before from what we can see. Like, my all means was a surveyor. He's retired.\n\nBut, you know, he's got your traditional Aussie shares, you know, BHP and National Bank and all that. And that's what we started with, but it was just gonna be too slow. You know, we'd be working towards 70 five to generate enough income from them to pull the pin. So this is sort of fast tracked to the housing and stuff like that. So now it's just storing up to make sure that, you know, we do have enough decent shares that generate income to live off so we're not eating into the capital.\n\nBecause that was always the aim, to not have to draw down on the capital, like, sell shares to to have income for each year, because then you're obviously limited you know, how many shares how long you can live. Whereas our aim was always to have the dividends generating. And then as you back up, you then have to start to sell off shares. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nHopefully. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nTwo. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nWhich is I've had well, actually, just started. I got I got perplexity although I've ran a fucking credit. So I've got perplexity to do a a Forex trading platform for me. So every morning, I log on and it at this stage, I'm only looking at the major the major currencies, gold, silver, and oil. And and it tells me every morning, it tells me what are the ones I need to have a bit of a closer look at based on a set of criteria we've set up to say, yes.\n\nIt's a strong chance of of being a win, and I'm working on a strategy that you only actually need to generate four trades out of 10. Four trades out of 10 when you're in profit. So it's 34% means I'll be in profit. But, obviously, if you could hit 50%, you know, you're well in profit. Yeah.\n\nBecause well, one of my aims is, yeah, is to get into options trading. Particularly selling calls is what I wanna sort of get in. Like, I wanna keep that side pretty safe, but just generate income potentially. So once we start to pull a pin, and that was also part of the reasoning why we wanna start to amass cash and and I've bought shares like SoFi and this big bear. Although, if we weren't getting the the solar put on, I'd I'd drop another 10 or $15 in the SoFi because it's it got up it shot up just after we bought them to about $28.30 bucks.\n\nAnd with all that's going on, it's come back down to about 16, and I paid 14 for them. So I'd happily buy another another few 100 of them as a pure growth because I think they'll start to rival the big US banks in the coming years and probably go up to around 75. Like, we've had a lot of we've had an awful lot of shares that if we had to held on to, we would have had a shitload of capital, but we didn't have enough. Like, I had plenty of tear at about $14, and it's now a $160 share. But I didn't have enough to make a substantial difference.\n\nYou know, I had, like, a couple 100 shares. So even even with the jump, it wasn't usually we can retire, and that's why we threw it all into the dividend stuff. So we we generated about we put together a 160 k in under six months, We which is what we used to buy this Harley Bay property. So since then since then, it's sort of we've taken a smashing because, you know, if the market drops 10%, we'll drop 12. But the other thing is that offsets that is while the market while we drop 12% each week, we also get paid a dividend.\n\nIt's it's it's okay. It's not as as I said, you know, I was so, like, one of my main shares is NVIDIA, which is a yield max derivative of Nvidia, which, you know, has taken a fucking absolute pounding in The US, thanks to Donald. But it at the time, it was paying I got about 2,300 shares in it at around $20 a share. For most of the time, I was always 30 odd grand even in NAV up, but I'm now $30 down NAV wise. But it was paying anywhere up to $4 a month in dividends.\n\nCurrently, the I yeah. At one stage, it was, like, a 120% or something crazy. Like, and even now, it's still paying about 1,200 a month. So and they haven't had to do a reverse a reverse what's his name on it. They've so it's still worth 2,300 shares.\n\nSo if it picks up if they can maintain it and it stays good, it will get back up to, you know, potentially where either loan could pay anywhere up to a thousand bucks a a week in dividends. But but it comes it comes with, obviously, with risk. Like, a a number of the other ones, like, Tesla, which is a derivative of Tesla, you know, they've done the reverse split. So, you know, where where is or I might have had 1,700 shares, they're now 300 shares or 400 shares or whatever. So which means the dividends still largely stay the stay the same, but they've they do cop a bit more of a beating if if the market has a big downturn or there's all this volatility.\n\nBut, see, I've offset a lot of that with I've got some bonds by this TLTW, which is a bond, a long term US bond share. I've got some SVAL, which is into the the VIX and the volatility. So, you know, it plays on the volatility. But and then the shares I'm trying to offset, and it it's unfortunate. As I said, the last few months, all I've done is, like I think in January, I've paid I've paid 4,800 in tax.\n\nAnd then each month after that, it's still I'm paying, like, nearly $3 a month out of me super in tax to catch up and to get back in front. So because of first yeah. Which was always the aim. It was always you know, we had to go risky at the start to or in our lives, we had to go risky at the start to get up there. So and then back off and divert it out so that we were, you know, down the track because we just didn't like, we weren't it wasn't going anywhere when we had because I had about 200,000 in it.\n\nOnce you bought ANZ and, you know, all the Aussie shares, you know, you were generating it at such a low rate, and they've been up and down and choppy as well. Like, BHP, you know, BHP hasn't probably really gone up since when we bought it. Originally, eve even though we've sold them, they keep going up and down sort of but, see, I had things like, I had stakes in, I had shares in Tesla that I and Amazon that I picked up for 100, and Amazon's about 200 now. Tesla's up. I bought them at a 130 or something and sold them at about 180, and they're now $3.40.\n\nBut, again, none of them have had, like, you know, 1,200 shares or 2,000 shares where selling them for 200% gain gives you massive wins. Yeah. So, you know, it was yeah. That's it. And if it if it went pear shaped, like, because, you know, there's two sides to Tesla.\n\nBut I always thought they'd they would be AI side would be the side that took more. They've worked got better at than the cars anyway. So Yep. Yep. 1970.\n\nYes. Correct. September 21 sixty eight. No. I think no.\n\nThat I think that pretty much that color is all we're looking to do at this stage, I think. Yeah. Yeah. No. And I guess the next big thing is, yeah, what happens job wise.\n\nLike, if this Melinda job comes off, then then I've got a what we sort of already touched on, look at how I I offset that. So but until that happens, which is probably a good two months away before a decision hope is probable, then, you know, it's just play on. Yep. Yep. Yep.\n\nYep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.\n\nPerfect. No. For for any of us. But yeah. No.\n\nThat sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Trust me. Yes.\n\nBecause it's not just for shelf and super fun. There's a whole lot of other stuff going on around it. So but Yeah. Yeah. And and that's, I guess, the way we sort of yeah.\n\nThat validation is to, you know, like, at the moment, whilst our supers look like they're really crappy, you know, if we didn't do what we did, we wouldn't have an investment property that's probably jumped over $200 in a year. You know? And and Yes. Yeah. Well, that's kind of what we are.\n\nAnd that but but it sort of also once the dividend started to drop a little bit and they started to do that, is some of these reverse bloody reverse sales on them. So we dropped the share volume down. We thought, you know, we probably don't wanna rely just because we already knew that, you know, you can't retire. If you've been busy your whole working life, you can't just retire and stop. You gotta keep moving or you or you'll die.\n\nSo that and this sort of opened our lives and said, alright. So let's let's work on some stuff now that that's not work. And I I watch a lot of YouTube. So, like, I've got YouTube Premium because I watch that much, and I ads shit me. And and, like, we look at all these people, you know, traveling overseas, and and that's their job.\n\nAnd we said, well, let's work on stuff like that where, you know, eventually, when when the time comes, hopefully, we're monetized on YouTube, making a little bit of stuff there. Like, I'm looking at getting you know, we'll look at getting some products, some affiliate marketing, some do do some digital, and a lot of them get into teaching and coaching. And, like, I've actually I was a personal trainer at and coach at Australian Institute of Fitness in Melbourne, so I actually used to teach people how to be personal trainers. So coaching and stuff, I don't mind. It was good fun.\n\nSo, like, I potentially, you know, I might look to get do some of that where you actually coach people. And because our story is fairly unique and certainly a little bit different from, you know, start young, put all your money into super, and then let compounding in compounding take its toll when you're 60. You know, we because I one of the videos on Amigos is that I challenge the you know, you've gotta have 250 k to buy an investment property in. You know, I I sometimes think that's the super industry. There's one thing I've learned is that if I calculate what I've paid in the super versus what I was able to pull out and put into the SSMS, it's probably only about the same money that I put in.\n\nOr actually, it grew by about three or 4%, and I was always in the aggressive brackets because I'm very much risk tolerant, which obviously shows in in what we've done. Yeah. And I've sort of challenged all that because I know that a lot of the big super funds, they're buying into all these dividend funds and stuff that I've got as well. So they're they're generating these huge dividends, and I just don't see how they're passing them on to to the the individual super hovers. But but they've they've gotta be holding on to it or and keeping the dividends for themselves, and you just get the CPI or whatever, which is basically all my super ever went up, CPI.\n\nYeah. So far, yes. That's that's the million dollar question so far. In in five years, what will it be? Yeah.\n\nWell, that's and that's why we're sort of yeah. Now's the time. You know, we've got the house. We we're potentially in a position to get another couple, you know, if we and that's where we're looking at splitting this off and putting, you know, like, we when we because what happened out here was I got the job, but we couldn't get anywhere to to rent, which was what we wanted to do. And we'd started investing all our personal money into the shares as well.\n\nSo we had no cash, so much lying around. So we we scraped together 5%. So we paid a 197,000 for this place three years ago or less than three years ago. Two just a two bedroom unit in Kingaroy, but we scraped together the 5%. And, like, he we never expected it to do what it's done, whereas it's now, you know, probably worth a minimum of $3.50.\n\nAnd if not yeah. And depending on how long we hold it on for, and that's why we thought, well, can we buy this with our super? No. But then I started to think, well, what if if we take the money and give it up and buy a house for ourselves, you know, even if we only use 10%, try and get one personally for 10%, even if we have to pay the mortgage insurance and then try and get another couple through our super or at least another another property in the super. We're buying two properties instead of one.\n\nAnd from where everything I see, prices are only gonna keep going up because the government aren't doing anything to bring prices down. They're actually making it fucking worse in everything they're doing. All their strategies are just making housing worse. Yeah. And that's what you know, you use use one to help pay down the other two and and then I get ownership of, you know, even if we could use one to pay there or you sell off another.\n\nIf we could buy another two, they grow, and then we use them, sell them off and pay the house outright, and then it's generating pure income. So things Yeah. Because what I've read what what what I've got out of chat is if we were to can put that put a 100 k into their supers out of it, it potentially would, on the back end, give us about a 20,000 15 to $20,000 tax check back next the following year for for the contributions, which we could then dump straight back in on something or have yeah. Or, yeah, have cash or if if gold could take a bit of a like a $2,000 dip. Yeah.\n\nBut mind you, if you if you've sat on some since 2012, it'd be looking pretty nice because it would have been under well, it would have been 1 well, under a grand, I reckon, in 2012. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it'll ever get back to those levels because what's sitting at about $4.07 at the moment, $4.06 or something at the moment, $6.07.\n\nI was a yeah. My I'm probably thinking US 4 seven. Yeah. So Alright. Yep.\n\nYep. No worries. Perfect. Yep. Yep.\n\nNo. No problem. Excellent. I'm off I didn't actually realize it was Easter weekend, so I'm off to Sydney tomorrow to watch the dragon Saturday night and then hopefully head off to the casino and win some money at the casino on the roulette strategy I first tried in Vegas. Yes.\n\nYes. That's the clear that could be the other stream professional roulette player. If if you could just pop if you could pop that in just for shits and giggles and I'll and highlight that one for Tash. Yep. Yes.\n\nYes. That's it. Yeah. Because she I went to Vegas to the, you know, for the opening round, and, of course, she has an absolutely zero interest in football or gambling. So so she stayed on with the animals, and so I said, well, instead of doing that, right, I'll find business class with Delta.\n\nAnd so that's what I did through business class with Delta, stayed at Circa on Fremont Street. I only went for a week and had an absolute blast. So yep. Yeah. I I tried it one.\n\nI got a couple of photos with a fair chunk of going to pick up. Started with 210 $212,100 only because I couldn't be bothered to keep going. And and I didn't wanna lose that 1,200, but it it's pretty slow and steady, but, yeah, it seems to do alright. Yes. Good good idea.\n\nNice. Oh, are we doing a are you doing an egg hunt? Yes. Yep. So you've obviously got kids young enough that they're into the still into the egg hunt and all.\n\nYou got you got kids where it's nice to have kids. Oh, no. It's okay. Oh, and you can okay. So that's that's enough then, or we're gonna fill the mini van?\n\nYes. Yeah. It looks. Yeah. Yep.\n\nParticularly if, you know, one of them can achieve. If you can if you can bring out some achievers, then I think that's like my sister, she's got pretty lucky. Both her kids must take after their uncle. And so, yeah, she's done pretty well, whereas poor old Cass is well, her kids have probably got a got a a little bit of learning and growing up to still do. Yeah.\n\nYeah. You think your chances are pretty good to get one good one. Yes. That's it. That's exactly it.\n\nYep. Yeah. Well, I went to we went to Townsville for mate and I caught up in Townsville for a Cowboys game and Dragons game, and we went off to the casino. And I I dropped $200 in, like, five minutes. And I'm like, fucking hell.\n\nSo then I thought, well, that's not good when I go to Vegas. So I I've YouTubed and watched all these strategies, and and I played this free roulette online on the phone. I played it played and played, and I stuck with one that I keep coming back to one, which was you bet $10 on one to 18 and $10 on even. If one of them gets up well, if one of them gets up, you get your money back. If both of them get up, you you double your money.\n\nAnd, of course, if neither of them get up, you lose. But then the strategy I play is you then double it up after that. So you go from 20 to 40 or depending on the table thing, and that's what I was doing in Vegas. But then I also throw in and have a look for patterns. So, like, I've I've watched enough where I learned that, you know, if three, say, one to 12 came up, then the chances of the fourth were slim and the chances of the fifth were even slimmer.\n\nSo sometimes I will change, or if you get three reds in a row, you know, the chances of four is slim, and five is slimmer. So I will sometimes offset, you know, and do slightly different, but keep coming back to that strategy. And that's what I've what slow and steady one. But you've gotta have a bank because you've gotta be able to suffer three or four losses in a row and still double up. You know, still keep.\n\nYeah. So it's you know, you can and and, unfortunately, being what it is, you know, you can get aid in a row that go against you. And then you you go on and you drop $2 because I wanted to have a $2 bank was the aim to be able to sustain it for $2 worth. But then, like, when I actually got over there, I'm not adverse to having a $50 bet on the horses or something, but dropping $2 in a hand, I went, oh, I'm not sure if I I wanna do that. So I got to 1,200 and went, yep.\n\nThat'll do. So I've actually got 1,600. That's why I know fully what you're talking about, US cash or cash rate, because that's also hit as hard as, you know, the fact that the the dollar on the flip side unfortunately, now is the time we put money across to The US or more so than pulling it pulling it out, whereas, yeah, it's dropped a minimum of 20¢ a dollar, which is killing me on the other side. And I've still got 1,600 US in your wallet, but I want it and every time it starts to go, you can't exchange it in freaking King Royce, so I have to wait till I get to the city. And every time it starts to go up, it comes back down, and I'm thinking, oh, man.\n\nAnd I've yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it'll it should once it all does settles down again and we get back to some form of normality within the world, then I think it'll start to level itself out again. But, yeah, for now, it's a bit of a worry. Yeah.\n\nYes. Are those generally better? Like, if I've got meetings, it's usually gonna be mornings and the like. But if are those generally better for me? Yep.\n\nCool. Yeah. Excellent. Because a lot of times, no, I don't know. With this the number of scammers you're getting now, if if it doesn't leave a message, I won't ring back.\n\nSo yeah. But no. But that's fine. That's good. Alright.\n\nI better let you get home to the missus. You too, and we'll talk soon. Perfect. Awesome. Thank you, mate.\n\nHave a good one.","paragraphs":[{"sentences":[{"text":"Not bad, mate.","start":6.16,"end":6.96,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.3304912547270457},{"text":"Yourself?","start":6.96,"end":7.46,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23050615191459656},{"text":"That's it.","start":11.04,"end":11.86,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1163177601993084},{"text":"Yeah.","start":12.16,"end":12.48,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2030692994594574},{"text":"Well, I had took today off, so I'm good.","start":12.48,"end":14.535,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23531877332263523}],"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2359721059910953,"num_words":16,"start":6.16,"end":14.535},{"sentences":[{"text":"I just Good.","start":15.335,"end":17.275,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6039615174134573},{"text":"No worries.","start":18.535,"end":19.015,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1439995840191841},{"text":"We actually we're just 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It's Tommy here from Oakview Financial, mate. How are you doing?\n\nChannel 1: Not bad, mate. Yourself?\n\nChannel 0: Living the dream so far. It's Easter in a couple of hours. How are you\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: going?\n\nChannel 1: it. Yeah. Well, I had took today off, so I'm good.\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: fantastic,\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: mate. Well, thank you for\n\nChannel 1: Good.\n\nChannel 0: spending a bit of time with me.\n\nChannel 1: No worries. We actually we're just sitting here with our beach backdrop on the on Google.\n\nChannel 0: Fantastic. Fantastic. Well, am I on speakerphone? Can I say hi to Natasha?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Certainly can. Yeah. Hi, Tommy.\n\nChannel 0: How are you doing, Tash? How you been?\n\nChannel 1: Good. Thanks. So so are we supposed to be in the Google Meet?\n\nChannel 0: I'm not actually in Google Meet at the moment. I was just giving you guys a quick phone call. Do you want me to jump on on there now? I can switch across.\n\nChannel 1: We don't really care, to be fair. Like, phone's fine or or that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Cool. Well, while I've got you guys, I just wanted to have a bit of an introductory chat and get a bit of an idea of what's going on because you're in a very interesting situation, if I if I may say so myself.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Well, it got\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: since Monday, it actually got a bit more interesting.\n\nChannel 0: Did it? What happened?\n\nChannel 1: Well so the first phase was we were looking at the redundancy part, but since then, there's a position that's actually opened up at Melinda for\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: a manufacturing manager that potentially will then escalate out or will cascade up to the site leader because, apparently, the current site leader wants to head back south for for family reasons.\n\nChannel 0: Right. So you might have something to sort of tie you over for a few years between now and when you go overseas.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So whereas we were sort of originally looking at, you know, maximum of two years and trying to probably tie everything in before June in that time frame for tax stuff,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we we now potentially will look to push you know, that is depending on its role. Could you look to push the other out an extra couple of years even because the potential benefits may well be there.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But we've\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: also since we talked to the girls on Monday, we've sort of gone back and rehashed what we wanted to do. We think we know a couple of things because we did ask chat GBT, and they were pretty adamant. But and we think you'll confirm that, but we sort of had a couple of other ideas around what we do with the current property that we've got as well and how\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: change\n\nChannel 0: that's just\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: your\n\nChannel 1: up.\n\nChannel 0: home in Kingaroy?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Correct.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. What ideas did you guys come up with, if you don't mind me asking?\n\nChannel 1: Well, originally, we thought could because we've actually got we currently got three SMS,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: two individuals, which we can't do much with because of the massive erosion that we've suffered, but the dividend still is producing. So we're happy to\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: do that. Then we've got the third joint one that's got Harley Bay property tied into it, and we were wondering if we thought we might be able to buy this place as part of the SMSF. And then from the proceeds, put that towards the new property when we if I was to get this job.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But Chat was very adamant that we can't do that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. All of the arm's length rules and all the fun regulations\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: around it. Right?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So I've come up with a plan b if we can't\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: do that because we're not overly keen on staying in anyway. So, I mean, it was just an easy outcome if we could do it that way. And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we would\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: save, you know, stamp duty not stamp duty, but save, you know, agent fees and all that sort of shit. But plan b was and sort of plan b is evolving as well is that if we were to sell this place, we we think we should net about $200.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: We one of the things we're looking at is should we could we divvy that up, drop, you know, a percentage keep a percentage to purchase a house? So it does not necessarily 20% because we need 20% during that and then drop the balance into our joint super between us\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and use that then as the deposit to get either one or two more properties in the joint super.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right. Okay. That's an interesting idea. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: So because I I know that, you know, the more money we put onto the the initial house, the less interest you pay. But currently, the two properties that we own, the the amount they seem to be going up far outweighs what we'd be copping in interest in. You know, if they're investments, we've got someone else paying, you know, a fair proportion. The investment property, we've also got dividends that flow in. So we we also generate at this stage around 1,200 a month in dividends, dropping into that investment property as well.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Absolutely. And that's just from your your personal assets, not not counting anything in the self managed super funds. Right?\n\nChannel 1: No. No. No. Sorry. We purchased shares in in we've also put in that self managed super fund, that third one.\n\nWe've also purchased shares in that to generate dividends. That's that's the dividend he's talking about, the joint\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: in the\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: joint\n\nChannel 0: US\n\nChannel 1: super\n\nChannel 0: stocks.\n\nChannel 1: pay. Yeah. So we've got US stocks in all three in all three supers.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right. Okay. So let me get a bit of a lay of the land then because I I thought it was a bit more kind of clean-cut split between that. So you've got the the three cell phone and super funds.\n\nYou don't have any kind of standard super accounts floating around outside it as a satellite, do you?\n\nChannel 1: No. No. Just self managed.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. Alright. So I'm just gonna do a bit of an asset breakdown for a second, and I might even get a bit of information from you guys after this. But you've got the three. One of them is joint.\n\nTwo of them are solo.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Correct.\n\nChannel 0: K. Do you guys have one H solo, or are they both underused, Steve?\n\nChannel 1: 9I1H.\n\nChannel 0: One h. Okay. So you've\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: got one H, one joint. So the joint one, that's where you've got the Harvey Bay property.\n\nChannel 1: Correct.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. What's the value in owing on that one?\n\nChannel 1: Well, we are about, let's say, $5.10.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: According we purchased it for $6.41, but realestate.com at the moment has it at I think I thought it said the latest one was $8.50.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. K. So you're a little bit there with a bit of a loan attached to it, and that one's got a bit of US stocks as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. That's the one that's that's generating about 1,200 a month in US stocks, about 300 a week.\n\nChannel 0: And that's the dividends just coming straight in to that cash account.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. And as currently, our super also goes into that account.\n\nChannel 0: Both of your contributions go in there?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. At this stage.\n\nChannel 0: Contribution\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: funds. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. So with the the account structure, you've obviously got a bank account that's flowing through all of the rents and payments and dividends and everything.\n\nTo purchase The US stocks, did you just go through a brokerage account? Like, did you set up a Comsec, or what what platform\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: are\n\nChannel 1: Through\n\nChannel 0: you using?\n\nChannel 1: all all my stuff through CMC.\n\nChannel 0: CMC. Yeah. For the stock purchases. And what's the value of the stocks in in that SMSF?\n\nChannel 1: I haven't looked recently, probably 20 or $30.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. K. So nothing too crazy there. Just a little bit\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: that's well, I guess you're investing the excess from the contributions. Right? Whatever's not been used for the property is just kind of buying into a few stocks.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And the aim was because we were going to retire in, you know, within that two year, we wanted once our super stopped going into it, we wanted to make sure because we currently receive about 2,400 in rent, and we the contribute we have to pay about 3,600.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So the the 1,200, the egg, we always wanted to set it up so that we once we stop working, we didn't have to contribute.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And the contributions are kind of holding that up at the moment.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: with the aim as always, we need a few more, but at this stage with the way the markets have been and and the fact that some of these shares have taken a beating because we're we're sitting pretty I've also got a a small amount of growth shares in there like SoFi and Big Bear, but obviously, they're also taking a bit of a pounding, or that's a good time to get back into SoFi.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So when it comes to The US shares, one of the things that I'm kind of worried about at the moment with a lot of clients is the exchange rate between\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: US dollars and Australian dollars. So you've got to be really careful there. It's taken a bit of a dive since January 2025. So even\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: if you were trying to sell them, your exchange getting them across into the country is gonna chop a bit off of your returns too.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. About 20¢ at least a share. And so some for cases, it was about 30¢ a share.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So it's\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: one of\n\nChannel 1: only\n\nChannel 0: the things\n\nChannel 1: 30¢\n\nChannel 0: where\n\nChannel 1: a dollar.\n\nChannel 0: timing\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: is gonna be big for that one, for when you sell\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: those or if you just use them for dividends. K. And with the other two SMSFs, what's what's in those?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Well, the well, mine's sitting on about $2.50, but the book value is about $5.70. But currently, mine's down about 5053%, I think. But\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: it's still it's still generating around $6 a 4 to $6 a month in dividends.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Although, the last three months or what, and that was setting up around $14 a month. But, obviously, everything's taken a pounding at the moment. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So it's currently\n\nChannel 1: but we'll\n\nChannel 0: sitting at $2.50 at the moment.\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: K. That's a bit rough. You're in a bit of a bit of a spot there where you've got all these assets tied up, but not really much wiggle room to do anything with them.\n\nChannel 1: No. Correct.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And, Tash, what about your SMSF? Is that similar in US stocks, or what's that invested in?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. It's all US. So the current capital is up 73,000, but it the initial capital was 174,000.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Yep. Okay. So that'll be crystallizing quite a bit of losses to do anything with those at this point.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. And it's been that way since we looked at because when we when we went over to the joint SMS set,\n\nChannel 0: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 1: the dividends were flowing in a lot better,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: but the capital had already started to dwindle. And so, yeah, we didn't we didn't wanna sort of sell off to move it across at that time even though we know we're paying, you know, triple the fees.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I get you. So that's a bit painful. Does that mean you guys have three different trust set up, and are you just individual trustees for these? So joint on one, you're not using any companies or anything?\n\nChannel 1: They're all they've all got so they've all been set up properly. I had my SMS since about 2013, maybe 2015.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And then Steve got his about 2022. That yeah. 2223.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So they've been done, like so mine's got, like, the holding, the entire White Holdings as the trustee for the entire White Superfund.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: The only one that's got the the bare the bare was it bare trust and the and the acquisition type entity involved is the joint one. That's the one\n\nChannel 0: For\n\nChannel 1: that we\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: pay\n\nChannel 0: property?\n\nChannel 1: the higher fees on.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Because you'd need that for that the loan for the property.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So, technically, you're floating around with essentially four trusts and four trustees, really.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Because you've got two for the to for the property one.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Two for the joint one and then one each for the solo. That must be costing you guys a bit in audit fees and tax returns, wouldn't it?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. A little it's not too bad. It the it's so the individuals are worth 12 to 1,300. I think yours was a bit higher because you've got Shit going on. Even more than going on than me.\n\nSo I think oh, maybe not. That's 700 for the individually for the tax returns for our individual super funds. $2. Plus, of course, the order to fees are, what, $3.85 each a pop. So, yeah, there is some additional fees in there that do.\n\nAnd and maybe maybe it is more worthwhile taking the losses that are in those funds and moving them over. I don't know. Like but, you know, the fees kinda haven't yet overtaken. Do you know what I mean? Like, our biggest concern in that first year, which was 2025, was that we were gonna have profits in our individual ones because that's where we moved all the funds across into the joint one.\n\nAnd\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: then we would have losses that we couldn't actually so we've paid you know, we've now paid tax on these profits that we couldn't offset with the losses in\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: the joint one with, you know, with the setup and everything.\n\nChannel 0: That's the painful part because it would be really ideal to even be able to offset like, let's say you were to sell that Harvey Bay property, being able to offset those gains with the losses from the shares would be really good, but I'm not actually certain whether you could actually get the shares across without crystallizing a CGT event. I'm not have you checked into that so far?\n\nChannel 1: Well, I don't know. No. We did ask we asked Carrie Ridgeland, but I'm not I'm not sure, like, while she can set up and do the accounting. I don't know that she's all over SMSF either.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So it yeah. And and and probably the biggest concern is, yeah, you know, not being able to offset the the the losses from those other ones anywhere potentially. Like, I don't like, I'm not sure that we can if if we take a well, I guess if we take a loss with the I don't know. I don't know. Well, instead of taking souls in the fact that while they're losing, they're still generating the dividends, which is catching up, and it's at the end.\n\nWithout the gains they did in the first place, we wouldn't actually have the property. And it's it's sort of climbing at a rate now that's almost keeping pace with what we're losing on one side.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep. It's kind of it's gotten you that leg up into that next position, allow\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you to borrow, get on to that next asset, and they're kind of offsetting each other just in terms of growth, I guess. Right?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And I think that, what well, I guess the hope is that once all this tariff crap takes gets gets passed, we'll get back to some form of normality, and and a number of these shares will start to recover. I think some will probably take it. Now they were never ever gonna get back because of what they are. They were never gonna go into, you know, positive net or anything.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But but a number of them well, there's still even a couple now that the net position is still in front even if you sold it off. Your net your net position is in front, but but you wouldn't sell them because of what they're generating in income.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So one thing that may be a bit of an accounting trick that I would want to look into for you guys is whether you can do an in specie transfer of your US stocks from one SMSF to the other where it can kind of be captured between trustee to trustee, and then you've got the ability to have that option to sell them and offset within that one if you want to.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So it's I think it's possible because the the last time I I tried doing this a few years ago, I had someone who was trying to get the shares into super. So once you have that change of beneficial ownership, you trigger your CGT event, you kind of upshits creek if you don't mind me saying. But\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: if it's already in super, I have seen self funded super funds or even other platforms capture shares and in specie transfer them across. It just took a lot of paperwork to do the cost base to actually do that transfer.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Okay. So\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: feel\n\nChannel 0: one\n\nChannel 1: as\n\nChannel 0: possibility\n\nChannel 1: though\n\nChannel 0: to try and get the three into the one. I I would definitely investigate it.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. I feel as though on that, and I'm sorry I didn't mention this sooner, but we will ask the question again. But I feel as though we did ask I at least asked steak. So mine my stuff's in steak. But I feel as though we I asked steak about it.\n\nIt might be easier because his is with CMC and the and the joint ones are with CMC. But with\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Stake, I think they said because it's not just going like, because it's not going from Natasha Wyatt to Natasha Wyatt. It's going to a joint one, although it really shouldn't matter to them because the accounting keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member. Team keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member.\n\nChannel 0: Correct. Because it's\n\nChannel 1: I will\n\nChannel 0: one member's\n\nChannel 1: ask the\n\nChannel 0: trustee\n\nChannel 1: question\n\nChannel 0: to\n\nChannel 1: again.\n\nChannel 0: another member's\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: trustee.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, sorry. What was that?\n\nChannel 0: Because it's it's under your name as a member. It's your asset.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: So if you move your asset into an SMSF or change of trustees, let's say you own two super funds, you're essentially rolling over funds between one of your super funds to another. They are supposed to, with the accounting, keep your assets separate and accounted for underneath.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what's happened. So I feel as though states said no.\n\nThe only way to do it was to sell them, but I'm gonna ask that question again. We might need specific wording. I I I feel like Terry did tell us. So is it in it's called an in a\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: specie\n\nChannel 0: Inspecie\n\nChannel 1: transfer?\n\nChannel 0: transfer.\n\nChannel 1: SP so is it all one word?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It's I n s p e c I e,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: in spaCy transfer. And it's also yeah. It's a bit more painful for the platform side of things because I used a lot of Macquarie for self managed super funds, and they're very good for those in spaCy transfers, and they they tend to use because it's a wrap platform. They were actually created to wrap people's individual assets together. So you were able to basically capture anything that they had on menu or available within the funds.\n\nSo that's even switching to a platform might be possible where you could even set up, like, a platform account and potentially grab everything across from CMC or state as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because, really, you're right. It's just that's just the platform. They don't they're not we're not they don't own the shares. They're just the platform, aren't they?\n\nSo And mine\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: is it's the same platform. So I think that's why Steve went with for the joint one. That's why Steve went with CNC, but our bank accounts are with inquiry for the joint one and for mine.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So one of the things that may be worth doing is it's just an option is maybe a Macquarie rep account may be beneficial to kind of pull all of those assets together. The forms to to do those cost bases, they can take a little bit of time and accounting to do it, but it's an option there. If we wanna get it\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: all into one and have this flexibility to offset the losses and gains, maybe worth just having a linked up Macquarie Bank account with a Macquarie investment account. You just be you have to be careful which one you pick because they've got three. One of them is very good for having lots of different individual holdings in terms of fakes, and some of the other ones are a bit more if you have one investment option. So it's just about getting the right one as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So and that would be most beneficial when we went to sell, for instance, property because we could offset we could also sell some shares, take the loss on the share, and then offset that against the capital gains on the property. Is is that what what we're suggesting?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. The other\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: option\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: is that if you wait until you hit your retirement phase and you sell them off with the sort of pension phase, you don't have to pay CGT there. It'll be tax free. But if you're kind of joint owning the asset, you'd both wanna be above 60 for that. Do it at the same time.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Which yep. We're good. We got two year gap.\n\nChannel 0: That's right. Because,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Natasha, you're nineteen seventy, aren't you?\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: K. So it's one of those things about the short term strategy is either you hold on to it until you're both able to retire. And and, honestly, that that job that you're mentioning, to be able to tie over for an extra couple of years might be a bit of a blessing. Because if you can just\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: hold on to everything until you can both hit pension phase, You can just roll it all across, avoid the CGT issues. Hopefully, the stocks have bounced back by then, and then you can transition all these assets into a bit of a pension phase. Even if you change them then into something a bit safer to live off, you might be better off doing that, or the short term is trying to get all of this sold and moved around now.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. That that's your thing I definitely don't wanna do because at the moment, even that takes away basically the income earning capacity of it. Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep. So\n\nChannel 1: Because you\n\nChannel 0: it would\n\nChannel 1: well,\n\nChannel 0: be\n\nChannel 1: you don't\n\nChannel 0: really\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: interesting\n\nChannel 1: the shoe. You don't have the cash to buy the shoes, so\n\nChannel 0: If\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: you\n\nChannel 1: can't\n\nChannel 0: can\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: potentially get them all together, then at least if it's all in the one SMSF, you can still hold on to all of them until pension phase\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: or decide to sell small amounts if you need to? Like, at least you can choose whether it's some, all partial, and and so on. What\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: do you think?\n\nChannel 1: Because the the second part of this strategy initially when the full all these terrible shit hit was once they started to generate the income that they were generating, a, we diversified into the property, but then the second phase was to transfer all the balance of the dividends into safer havens. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: the lowest shares, which is what my fund's been able to do a decent amount of or some of. Cash is not so much because we were originally trying to get the self net the the joint one back up to a fifty fifty split. So it was never gonna\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: be that. It's the income, like, as you said. And we're not sure. Last week. Payment.\n\nAnd we're not sure that that was a good in hindsight, we're not sure that was a good idea. We probably should have just kept generating dividends or generating shares from the the dividends and and build it that way. So, like, Tash hasn't really invested in shares for some time. So it's like, the hits are being compounded.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: And mine, as I said, the last few months, I haven't either because all I keep doing is paying fucking tax. Okay. Which that means nothing else I'd like to get away from because I already pay a shitload of tax early salary, so I'd really like to be able to not pay tax because not many other people seem to pay tax in this country.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And that's the thing is once you get to that late fifties, high income earning, you're pretty much in the worst bracket for copying tax from all angles. All of your\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: your hard earned assets, your your income level, everything cops it. You're in the kind\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: of\n\nChannel 1: savings.\n\nChannel 0: wrong end of town for the tax side, unfortunately.\n\nChannel 1: And and they just they're now putting interest on everything.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: And the\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: only people obviously paying that are the ones who are actually paying keeping their tax bills so that they don't get rolled that way. So I'm and I'm thinking, well, I'm not sure how that works either. But\n\nChannel 0: yeah. You got\n\nChannel 1: anyway\n\nChannel 0: those people who have the businesses and things like that that have more tax breaks, or you've got people at the lower end of town who get all the concessions, and you're in\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that you know,\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: they call\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: you\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: the mega\n\nChannel 1: guess\n\nChannel 0: rich, but you're not, but they put you in that same\n\nChannel 1: no.\n\nChannel 0: category to copy you with the taxes.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yeah. Well, that's where I guess if this job comes off up north, then that's the other part is, you know, currently, we've managed on what my current salary is. If I jump up to potentially $1.75 and then it could go over 200 if the site manager role comes up as well, which it potentially would is is how do I what can I do to stay at that sort of $1.50 and put everything else into something that works for me?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I'm with you. And there, the most attractive thing is the super because\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you'll be able to access it pretty soon if you needed to\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: even if you were doing a transition to retirement. So you can get a little bit extra in there, have the ability to draw a bit of it back out if you needed to.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And that's what I'm thinking. And then with that with that additional that goes through into it, then you, you know, we stick with those safer shares to build them up. So which is,\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: you know because the the original plan was always these yield max ones were always gonna be you ride until death. Just let them keep generating income until they're basically dead. And\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: then in that time frame, we should have had the other shares generating the replacement income in a safer environment. But, unfortunately, I we didn't factor in tariffs and wars and shit like that.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It's that sequencing risk that happens at this age too where one of those global\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: events happens and all of a sudden you're you're faced with, I guess, waiting a number of years for things to clear out. And the question is how long can you hold on for for it to recover and and get what you need.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Luckily, like you said, you got that property there, so at least there's some assets to draw from. And the income\n\nChannel 1: And this property\n\nChannel 0: side\n\nChannel 1: when we sell because we'll go overseas. Once we're done, we're out of Australia. We're off overseas. So we'll sort of maintain one property, but the proceeds from well, at this stage, the second property will also go back into super and and offset that as well whereas which is why I'm sort of looking now at how many properties can we with the way the property market's gonna go in the next few years, my thoughts are if you can buy two or three now, you're not gonna lose.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It'd be nice to have the full value of the shares that you had just to borrow off of those in the SMSFs.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yes. Well, the only upset, I guess, is that is the property itself that has the shares attached to it, which is the one we would buy off. It's gone up considerably, hopefully.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. And like you said, if it's sitting at $8.50, it's pretty good. And then you've got the increase in the other one.\n\nIt's not looking too bad. So let me ask you guys this then. When it comes to the self funded super funds, do you want me to investigate a way to kind of tie it together and see what the options are there, at least so you can know with some certainty?\n\nChannel 1: I think so. I think,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, if we can do something without selling selling shares that we're gonna take a big loss on and then obviously not generate income on them either, then definitely because then we the bare minimum we save Yeah. And the comp just even the complexity around working out which bloody super fund we've paid what for or low Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Would would\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: be\n\nChannel 0: The\n\nChannel 1: a benefit.\n\nChannel 0: auditing fees, tax returns, which\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: parcels\n\nChannel 1: Late\n\nChannel 0: have\n\nChannel 1: fees\n\nChannel 0: gone\n\nChannel 1: because\n\nChannel 0: into\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: what.\n\nChannel 1: thought you'd pay this, but you'd pay that instead. Yes. So yeah. So it Yeah. Definitely with regards to bringing everything together, that would be that would be great if if that's a possibility, For\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So that'll be my main thing then is I'll investigate that for you guys. If there's something where it's just a real simple yes or no, I'll let you know straight away.\n\nChannel 1: sure. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: If there's a way that we can kind of do an overall tightening and cleanup as you lead into retirement, then we'll kind of proceed through the advice process and and go through that route, and I'll just kind of help pull it all together for you guys. So you seem pretty confident in your investing side of things. Do you want any suggestions on investment options, or you really just wanna simplify the structure?\n\nChannel 1: Depends. I'm sort of open to it because I don't know. There's certainly a lot I don't know as as well. Trying to learn it. But, yeah, I mean, I had a very clear strategy to get so what originally kicked it off, Tommy, was that I hit 53, looked at my super night, at that stage, $200 and an army super that was worth bugger all that I\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: couldn't do anything with, you know, when I can't retire at all at this rate. And so that's where we've sort of turned it around and got the investment, got the income coming in, which, you know, at this stage, the income is still continuing to come in at $600 a month, well, just for my side of it. Not so much for mine. Cash is not quite as much. But\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: also we've got, you know, 1,200 a month coming into the other fund as well. So, you know, all that we've still got, like, $10 or 8 to $10 coming in a month. It's just in dividends at this stage. But yeah. So there's definitely room to tighten tighten that and look for other options where because we've got a property.\n\nWe've got chairs. So if there's other things that we could potentially I mean, I would like to have gold, but it is a bit expensive at the moment.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And that's the type of things that I was sort of leaning towards is\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: as you as you enter into that transition to retirement age bracket, do you wanna put together some sort of a little bit more conservative portfolio where you just diversify a bit, have a bit of metals in there, a bit of gold and silver, a bit of high interest, fixed interest options there too? Because, like, as an example, if you were to utilize a a wrap platform like Macquarie to hold the shares, you then got access to all those managed funds and ETFs as well. And if you wanted to put a bit into gold, I've been into some high high yielding fixed interest where you're getting 6% somewhat guaranteed, you can kind of just fix up your asset allocation a little bit as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Potentially, see, the original plan as well was well, part of it was with the cell with the house. It was always gonna only be one. And then once it started, like, at the moment, we've put in aircon and we've in the last twelve months, we've paid a fair bit. We're about to put solar on at about $10.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right.\n\nChannel 1: And then once once although we haven't heard back from them yet, once we've done all that, then my plan for that was just to sit once then once I've covered well and truly covered off the share side of it with the extra money coming in to cover all loans and all fees and stuff, it was just gonna sit and accumulate cash because we still\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: get 5.5% cash on that account. That's what you thought. Yeah. But, yeah, like, to have an idea of But, yeah, potentially, it's yeah. If something really good came up, then then we'd definitely be interested in looking at that.\n\nBut, yeah, I've kind of got the strategy. It's just we've it's taken a bit of a hit that we and, like, the other side of it is we've actually started the best diversifying into looking at at other alternative income streams like online stuff to offset incomes as well just in case.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Sorry. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. When I say that, though, we certainly don't need to include any of that income into a plan at this stage.\n\nChannel 0: No. No.\n\nChannel 1: We've\n\nChannel 0: I understand.\n\nChannel 1: been money, I think. We've sold we had sold a T shirt,\n\nChannel 0: Congratulations.\n\nChannel 1: which generated about which generated about $7 of US income, and we've spent probably $4 of Australian air allowance.\n\nChannel 0: There you go. A bit of a side hustle going on. That's fantastic.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Getting together quite another little collection of toys. Yes. We've got a lot of toys, so they'll well, they're doing it today. They'll generate cash.\n\nI've got a lot of money. So so\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: we've\n\nChannel 0: look.\n\nChannel 1: got\n\nChannel 0: I'm not gonna lie. This is one of the most exotic setups I've ever seen when it comes to retirement planning, so I love it. I'm here for it.\n\nChannel 1: Alright. Well, see, my whole career has been planning. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: that's basically yeah. And then, yeah, as I said, the only thing I didn't plan for was Trump is the best to pay, and There's nothing. So trying to secure oil for himself.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That too. Absolutely. So what I'll do is just to keep it nice and easy for you guys, Tash, if you're comfortable to reach out to to stake and see if you can do that in specie transfer, that kind of that'll help because that simplifies everything. I'll investigate on the Macquarie side and see if you need to use a platform for it.\n\nAnd then, like, if you if you can do it with your your current platforms and even if CMC would offer taking over those, like, if they will let you do it and bring it across, that might be good too. So if you guys can investigate that side,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I'll contact the Macquarie BDMs and figure out a few options for you as a bit of a plan b. How's that sound?\n\nChannel 1: Sounds good. Yep. Awesome. Thanks. The\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: the other question\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: we had\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Go for it.\n\nChannel 1: is is if is if this job doesn't come up or doesn't come to fruition, and then I do go through the redundancy phase, our our thoughts at this stage were that we've got cash some cash sitting in the bank. Not a whole lot. Not yeah. But it's not a whole lot of redundancy either. No.\n\nBut I put just before June, we transfer the cash that we've got in the bank into my super and then get the tax benefit from that, hopefully, you know, the other side of it. And then when I get the redundancy put the redundancy money back onto the home loan.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Would that but I know that, you know, for the actual redundancy amount, I don't pay tax. And I'm we're thinking that we'd pay 15% on the way in, but I would say, I don't know, 27% or whatever the hell it is on a 150 k salary\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: on the other side. So it would still be would it it would still be beneficial to do that on I'm we're thinking, but we're not a 100% sure.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. I can see what you mean. It's a bit of a split where the redundancy picks you up quite high, but only that baseline is copying the tax, but you're still in that bracket anyway.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. What I might do then just to take a quick step back is let me just go through a couple of details with you guys, and that way I can I've got a clear picture in my mind. So, Steve, what's the current salary? So it's about the $1.50 mark at the moment.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I'll take it $1.48 something plus a short term bonus, which I should get still this year in September. Last year,\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: I got the I think it was $16, and it ended up being about 8 in the hand.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: And that's net of stickers. So the sticker's on top of the salary that he just quoted you. Yeah. Yeah. Correct.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: Okay,\n\nChannel 1: all that, my\n\nChannel 0: sir.\n\nChannel 1: package is one sixty six, I think.\n\nChannel 0: That $1.66 is a package. And this other job that you're looking at is possibly starting you off as a manufacturing manager at $1.75?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I told them I'd want $1.75 to $1.85.\n\nChannel 0: K. And the site lady you think could go upwards of 200?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I'm thinking probably sort of in that circa 02/10 to 02/20 mark.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. K. When will you find out about the redundancies, Steve?\n\nChannel 1: Well, the the application's closed on the April 19. I have been told, which my HR partner who's just left, she's just made took a redundancy, that I've definitely got an interview. So what\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: he probably didn't didn't make clear, I don't know if he did, is that the role that he the role of the lander is with the same company. So Yes. So he's not. So that's one or the other. He either gets so up until Monday, we were planning that he was gonna get the redundancy and still looking for other work.\n\nBut now he may not get the redundancy if he takes the job at Melanda because it's the same entity.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Absolutely. And so is Melinda the employer?\n\nChannel 1: No. Vega.\n\nChannel 0: Vega.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: As in bigger stringers? Cheese?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Bigger bigger cheese or bigger root.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Vega peanuts out here? Well, yeah, which is which is which is now now that seem to be not bigger peanuts.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. Perfect. What about your side of things, Tash? How much has has Luke got you on? I'm I'm not sure\n\nChannel 1: Not\n\nChannel 0: what your\n\nChannel 1: enough.\n\nChannel 0: specific role and income is\n\nChannel 1: Not\n\nChannel 0: at the moment.\n\nChannel 1: not\n\nChannel 0: I won't\n\nChannel 1: enough\n\nChannel 0: I won't\n\nChannel 1: telling.\n\nChannel 0: bring you into the conversation, but\n\nChannel 1: I can see, unfortunately. I think I'm on about 95. I know I am on 95 plus super at the moment.\n\nChannel 0: of course, he's got you under 6 figures. No worries. Fair enough. 95 there. And you're doing, like, the the credit analyst side of things or\n\nChannel 1: No. No. I'm I do the bookkeeping and accounting side.\n\nChannel 0: bookkeeping and accounting. That's it.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Bookkeeping\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: and accounting. What about okay. So in terms of, like, goals for you guys, you've got a lot of different assets with the the house and the shares generating income sort of things. When you go overseas, you sell off and you move overseas, what what country are you guys going to?\n\nChannel 1: At this stage, the the plan is to do, like, sort of up to nine months in Southeast Asia.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So so far, we've been to Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, and then a couple of few months in Europe. And some of that also depends, Tommy, on whether I'm ready to retire. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: If not, because we've got some of the girls in The Philippines, there has been, you know, hints of me working over there, which would put us in The Philippines. And I'm fully\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: supportive of that. He's happy he's happy to be kept.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. But, like, if I'm not because initially when we were talking about Steve wanting to retire at 60, and I'm like, I I don't feel ready yet.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. You might\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: do a bit of a partial retirement for a while.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. So is it you know, so if if it was that I was gonna be working for for BE still and they would be happy for me to work out of The Philippines, then that would potentially be our starting place. Yes.\n\nChannel 0: Wow. That'd be fun.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. I think it'd be good. It's well, I've seen you as\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: a pain.\n\nChannel 0: kind of working from home enhanced. It's just, you know, overseas working holiday almost.\n\nChannel 1: I suppose that would be alright, wouldn't it? And, like, I would\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: still do the YouTube channel and the websites and stuff that we're doing. So we'd still do a lot. I think\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Luke's on board with that with it, but I don't know about Steve O.\n\nChannel 0: Steve is old\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: school,\n\nChannel 1: mean,\n\nChannel 0: I guess.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. I mean, he Steve O wasn't overly happy for people to work from home at all\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: until I moved out here. And then there's another guy in finance that's actually working from I I don't know. I always get it wrong. Serbia or Croatia or something at the moment.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That's\n\nChannel 1: Do\n\nChannel 0: crazy.\n\nChannel 1: you know Ollie?\n\nChannel 0: I was actually yeah. Ollie helped me do my refinance just\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: recently.\n\nChannel 1: it's okay. Yeah. So where so where is he? I always get it wrong. I always get the\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: plates\n\nChannel 0: think\n\nChannel 1: wrong.\n\nChannel 0: he might be Croatian, similar to to my family, I think.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Yeah. Because it's bad mixing up the Croatians in the Serbian. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: We're\n\nChannel 0: yeah.\n\nChannel 1: not\n\nChannel 0: I\n\nChannel 1: supposed\n\nChannel 0: cop it\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: all\n\nChannel 1: mix.\n\nChannel 0: the time. People all the time saying, are you Serbian? I was like, you can't say that. That just\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: starts to fight and a brawl at the soccer match with some flares and things like that.\n\nChannel 1: It's like we we just woke up one morning and went to bloody war.\n\nChannel 0: Pretty much. Pretty\n\nChannel 1: I was\n\nChannel 0: much.\n\nChannel 1: trying to learn some greeting when I was in the office and when I was still in on the coast and even when I go into visit, I was trying to learn some greetings. But now I've got out with Ollie. Like, I was just doing, like, a different greeting for each of the different people people from different areas.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I'm just trying to think what it was. What is it?\n\nChannel 0: As in, like, sort of like a yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Good\n\nChannel 1: Is\n\nChannel 0: day.\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: Kind\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: of\n\nChannel 1: What\n\nChannel 0: thing.\n\nChannel 1: was\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: it? Is that it?\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: I'm sorry. So Anyway, I'm just trying to just, you know Obviously, Tommy, you've been over that way. Visit it with potentially a family. Have you been to Montenegro?\n\nChannel 0: No. I am still I decided to have a few kids instead, so I'm still planning\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: my trip to\n\nChannel 1: Bad idea.\n\nChannel 0: Croatia with the family. Yeah. So it's kind of delayed things for a few years, so that's next on\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: my bucket list is to go over there and see the family.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Because, yeah, Montana goes away on my to do list.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: It's really Definitely puts a lot of plans in\n\nChannel 0: So what I might do too, I just wanted to ask you guys, like, in terms of obviously, even if you're doing a bit of work from\n\nChannel 1: mind.\n\nChannel 0: The Philippines, have you got a figure of, like, the yearly income you're gonna wanna have when you finally kind of both hang up the boots?\n\nChannel 1: Well No. No. I mean, when it all first kicked off and it was my dividends were generating around $14, I mean, we thought, well, that we didn't really give it much more thought up. Right? Because that was more than that was about $6 more than I was taking home here.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I guess well, the aim of The Philippines is that you can live I guess if we were earning between us sort of somewhere between 7 and 10 and we stayed in the stayed overseas for quite some time, that would that would suffice because the aim of part of the aim of being overseas is that if you live pretty well to, you know, two to four Australian, we would still have three to four that we kept putting back into our super or or sitting as cash, and that was always the plan. I guess it's that by going overseas, we could live on probably half of what our dividend income was and then continue to save, which technically\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: still currently could do. So\n\nChannel 0: So technically,\n\nChannel 1: for them for now.\n\nChannel 0: 7,000 to 10,000 a month combined from the super and maybe a bit of part time work and some side hustles, and you guys should be okay.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I think it's me. Well, you I'm sorry. The side hustle actually paid off for all the. There's more\n\nChannel 0: Who knows?\n\nChannel 1: side\n\nChannel 0: It\n\nChannel 1: than\n\nChannel 0: might\n\nChannel 1: hustle.\n\nChannel 0: come in in the right time.\n\nChannel 1: What's that?\n\nChannel 0: Might come in at the right time. It may just sort of kick off right when you need it. Who knows?\n\nChannel 1: Hopefully. Well, that's why it's part of why we're starting now, I suppose, is, you know, get it now while we're able or while we can afford to take the losses and\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: buying all these bloody AI tools and crap. And\n\nChannel 0: And what did you say, Steve? It's more size than hustle at the moment.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. There's not a lot of hassle. The other way.\n\nChannel 0: Not yet.\n\nChannel 1: Is it more hassle than size? And I hope you have enough.\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: Guys,\n\nChannel 1: do we\n\nChannel 0: I might\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: a T shirt for you?\n\nChannel 0: a t shirt or will I get a photo of this, or do I get a few different choices?\n\nChannel 1: Well, we've got I've got a I'll we should send you a photo, one that we just developed that but you can't we chose still Taser's still working on getting into Australia because we can only The US is so much cheaper. But I've got a I bought a shirt that says bad decision, make good stories. And we've upgraded it and put our own spin on it. And, like, when I was in the state, because I was just I've just come back from Vegas. And then when I was in the airports on the way out of Vegas and out of LA, I reckon four at least four people commented on how they like the shirt.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: So we've got we've got we've got a couple of them. I've got a couple more designs, but one of them is a little bit less a little bit less sensitive. So when I'm going into, like, the Delta One lounges and stuff, I choose not to wear it, and Tash probably don't wanna see it. It doesn't wanna be with. I've got another one that I really like that says fuck your feelings.\n\nChannel 0: You know what you should do, if you could for me, is part of the process is we do certified ID, and\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: we usually get the clients to take a photo, bit of a selfie with the license there as well. If you can wear one\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: of those shirts when you do it, I'd appreciate that.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. We can do we can do that.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because\n\nChannel 0: Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: we have\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: we've been buying a couple of samples to see how the print is sent out on them and and see what the actual blanks are like in the wash and all that sort of stuff, but we haven't actually got heaps of them yet.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: Test\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: them out a little bit, see how they go in the wash.\n\nChannel 1: I'm also trying to get them I got a mate group that I'm trying to get. Once we can get them into Australia at a, you know, at a reasonable price, I'm I'm thinking my mate group will buy the ones along those lines as well. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Can't see why not. If they're the mates. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: but, yeah,\n\nChannel 0: Steve.\n\nChannel 1: they're they're not too bad. So we'll we'll see how that goes. And between that, the shirts, and then all the other stuff we're doing, we've got a couple of YouTube channels kicking off and, you know, obviously, got a bit of work to do because we're old and and we've gotta learn all this stuff, but\n\nChannel 0: Not\n\nChannel 1: we're\n\nChannel 0: on\n\nChannel 1: getting\n\nChannel 0: TikTok,\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: are you?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I've got three\n\nChannel 0: TikTok\n\nChannel 1: bloody TikTok\n\nChannel 0: and YouTube.\n\nChannel 1: channels going.\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: wow.\n\nChannel 1: I've got we got armchair. So if you look for Armchair Amigos\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: or Armchair Traders, And then I've just kicked off a new YouTube channel that's only got one video on it at the moment. And, again, it's saying for older people, but it's called Longevity Labs AU.\n\nChannel 0: Gotcha.\n\nChannel 1: So I've started to delve into, like, MNN and and and a few other bits and pieces like that and and sleep patterns and creatine and things like that to for as you get older.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, awesome. Yeah. I found the armchair amigos travel gurus. I'll have a little bit of a look at\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: that when I get\n\nChannel 1: us.\n\nChannel 0: home. Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: That's scary. Subscribe and like, mate.\n\nChannel 0: Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe. Don't worry.\n\nChannel 1: Hit the bell. Good\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: good to watch if you're having trouble getting to sleep at this stage.\n\nChannel 0: fantastic. So I've got a baby on the way into the lullabies.\n\nChannel 1: And I fully\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: understand what they're talking about.\n\nChannel 0: Do you look back and sort of cringe a little bit, do you?\n\nChannel 1: Oh, and look, we know that they could use that they could be better. We just don't know how to make them better yet.\n\nChannel 0: I guess it's all just trial and error. Right? Similar with the shirts.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Same thing. It's like you, you know, you start a job or whatever, a career, and you don't know much, and then you you persevere and learn.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: Actually, speaking of careers, I forgot to ask you before. For Vega, what's your your current role, Steve?\n\nChannel 1: currently, I'm supply chain manager.\n\nChannel 0: Supply chain manager. That's right.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I've got the the next roles, but Scott actually asked you that one.\n\nChannel 1: But in in the past, I've done, like, a host of supply chain production, process improvement, production planning, had my own business, been a personal trainer, taught personal training,\n\nChannel 0: You're on.\n\nChannel 1: worked on mine sites, worked on Southmore Island, Army, did five and a half years in the army.\n\nChannel 0: Been everywhere. Just like that TV\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. But certainly, up the East Coast Of Australia, I have there's not too many places I haven't been.\n\nChannel 0: Fair enough. Fair enough. Guys, I'm just gonna grab a couple more details before I let you dart off for Ace of there.\n\nChannel 1: Two.\n\nChannel 0: Would you be okay to I'll I'll do that investigation with Macquarie first, but would you be okay to send through some of the, like, the trust deeds and company constitutions for the SMSF at some point as well?\n\nChannel 1: Yep. It's one for all three or just join?\n\nChannel 0: Well, it'll have to be for all three because if I'm gonna advise\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: a possible three to one kind of cleanup, I I just wanna make sure I can identify all the funds and everything, Trustees,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: trust\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: owners, members, and so on. And maybe a couple of statements would be good too, but that may just take us a bit of time. I'll do the investigations and research first, but that will be needed before the end as well.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Okay. Do you so is it is it just do you wanna send us an email of what you need from us, or do you just want us to take a note now? Trustees\n\nChannel 0: Oh, no.\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: I'll\n\nChannel 1: statements.\n\nChannel 0: send you\n\nChannel 1: Trustees.\n\nChannel 0: it. No. So we trustees and statements would be good and company constitutions, but I'll send through just a reminder email next week as well just as a refresher.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Yeah. And are we sending that to you or to what was the lady's name? Just just one? Just one?\n\nChannel 0: To\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: with\n\nChannel 1: Because\n\nChannel 0: Jordan?\n\nChannel 1: Bernadine was is bigger. Sorry. Who who was the no.\n\nChannel 0: So,\n\nChannel 1: Who was the lady that sent us the in the\n\nChannel 0: yeah,\n\nChannel 1: invite\n\nChannel 0: you would have got\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: that from Jordan.\n\nChannel 1: the Jordan. Sorry.\n\nChannel 0: What I'll do is I'll send you through you would have received our financial services guide\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: from hopefully, it should have been our research or info email, and anything that you send through today kind of automatically tags to your client profile. So best to keep it central there rather than if you send it to me directly and I'm away, the team won't have access to that until I'm there, if that makes sense.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Okay. Alright. Indeed.\n\nChannel 0: Cool.\n\nChannel 1: So info at. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: We were talking about potentially looking at the whole end of financial year contributions down the line, but you're not currently doing any extras at the moment, Salary sacrifice or anything?\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. I'm assuming you both haven't gone through any bankruptcy or debt agreements before?\n\nChannel 1: No. I a few years back, quite a few now, when the kids were little, I did go through it wasn't bankruptcy, but I I went with Christians Against Poverty. They helped me to sort of minimize like, do a budget minimize. It was when the kids were little and I was on my own and helped me to to minimize some of the debt that I had as well as paying some of it off. Does that\n\nChannel 0: Gotcha. So it's not like a formal part nine debt agreement. It was just kind of some some assistance there on the budgeting side.\n\nChannel 1: Correct.\n\nChannel 0: They didn't\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: take\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: over\n\nChannel 1: then\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: they\n\nChannel 0: debt yet.\n\nChannel 1: negotiated with, you know, Westpac. I think I had a credit card with them, but and things like that. It's supposed to it wasn't supposed to ever affect your credit rating, which I believe it hasn't. I don't know.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. No. We we both got loans and stuff for all these.\n\nChannel 0: Can you guys\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: just\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: quickly\n\nChannel 1: think\n\nChannel 0: run\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: me\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: through\n\nChannel 1: don't is\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: that why you were asking no, Tommy? Was it for for that sort of info? Like,\n\nChannel 0: yeah. Yeah. It's all just kind of security in the back end, and it does impact loans, of course, which you guys would know very much about. But it's just one of those little checks that we do as well. That and another very strange question, which you may not get often, but are you guys a\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: member of any\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: foreign tax residency? No. Probably down the line once you go to The Philippines, but not right now, which is good.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: And last couple of questions I've got for you guys\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: is just on the, like, the health and insurance side of things. Have you got insurances attached through the SMSF? Did you cancel them all when you set it up? Or\n\nChannel 1: the only one's got through work. So we've got health insurance, but that that's not you're talking about life and income protection, aren't you?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: Life\n\nChannel 1: don't think\n\nChannel 0: TPD\n\nChannel 1: we've got either\n\nChannel 0: income\n\nChannel 1: of\n\nChannel 0: protection.\n\nChannel 1: those.\n\nChannel 0: K.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I don't I don't think we've got And I need it for for at the start, but I don't know. And whatever Steve's got then. Yeah. I just\n\nChannel 0: Now\n\nChannel 1: use\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: my work one.\n\nChannel 0: that's up to you guys, but, obviously,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: at your ages, trying to obtain some life insurance at this point would be quite expensive. Do you want me to look into that or just keep this strictly to the\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: SMSF?\n\nChannel 1: Well, I don't have kids. So, basically, for me, everything goes to Tash anyway. So, well,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: we'll actually, people get our wheels done. Do is get our wheels done. That's probably more important. So neither\n\nChannel 0: That was\n\nChannel 1: of\n\nChannel 0: my\n\nChannel 1: us\n\nChannel 0: next\n\nChannel 1: have got,\n\nChannel 0: question. Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: yeah,\n\nChannel 0: So no\n\nChannel 1: like,\n\nChannel 0: insurances,\n\nChannel 1: dependent\n\nChannel 0: but the\n\nChannel 1: now?\n\nChannel 0: estates. Do you\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: have what what's the family structure like then? You've got Tash, you've got a few adult children now? Or\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I've got three adult children.\n\nChannel 0: yep.\n\nChannel 1: They live on the coast.\n\nChannel 0: Fantastic. And, Steve, do you have any?\n\nChannel 1: No. Nope.\n\nChannel 0: K.\n\nChannel 1: I've got the cat and the dog, which is what my superfund is all structured around. Or\n\nChannel 0: The\n\nChannel 1: named\n\nChannel 0: beneficiary\n\nChannel 1: around.\n\nChannel 0: to the\n\nChannel 1: Named\n\nChannel 0: cat and\n\nChannel 1: around.\n\nChannel 0: the dog.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, I can't wait to see that. That'll be fantastic. I know I did an Optimus Prime transformers super fun for somebody a few years back.\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Creative names. So\n\nChannel 1: Well,\n\nChannel 0: we've\n\nChannel 1: we've\n\nChannel 0: got\n\nChannel 1: got the I've got the no brainer Marcel because that's the cat's name, and he's the boss. And I've got the Indian Marcel Superfund, but\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: then our joint our joint fund is much better.\n\nChannel 0: And what's that one?\n\nChannel 1: It's the Tony and Ezekiel. Have you seen the YouTube video\n\nChannel 0: Oh, not the way.\n\nChannel 1: of what's your\n\nChannel 0: This\n\nChannel 1: name?\n\nChannel 0: is the one I'm thinking of.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. What's your name? Says fuck\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: you,\n\nChannel 0: they're\n\nChannel 1: Tony.\n\nChannel 0: yelling at\n\nChannel 1: Fuck\n\nChannel 0: each other\n\nChannel 1: you,\n\nChannel 0: across\n\nChannel 1: Ezekiel.\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. What's\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: your\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: name?\n\nChannel 1: we've got Tony and Ezekiel super punch because and\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: and it's\n\nChannel 0: no\n\nChannel 1: Foxconn\n\nChannel 0: way.\n\nChannel 1: uniform, which was the Yeah. But we had to have I think Steve and Pat, we we just have Foxtrot Uniform as trustee for the Titanium Physiology Superfund. We had to I think it had to be Steve and Tash or something. Foxtrot uniform, which took a bit of polish off it, but, you know, sentiment's still the same.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Any problem\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: when the accountant sends us letters, they keep they keep addressing it to Tony. It's like there's no Tony here. It's just the name\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: on\n\nChannel 0: That's\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: not even\n\nChannel 1: fund.\n\nChannel 0: a member or a director or anything. It's no one\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: in oh, that's funny.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Okay. So the cell phone and super fund details we'll get just quickly on the estate planning side of things. So are you guys gonna go obviously, a will is a must. You're gonna set up a bit of a power of attorney as well, maybe a testamentary trust will, something like that, if you consider those.\n\nChannel 1: We have no idea what it is. Oh, yeah. The old maybe that's that was that was the first thing I might wish to do. We we keep We lost we lost if it set up a bill.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: It's\n\nChannel 0: So\n\nChannel 1: a bit black.\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: I know.\n\nChannel 0: the quick reminder and refresher is that your power of attorney is when you're still here. And if\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: you're in hospital, it means it's much easier for someone to in Queensland, it incorporates, like, the the health and financial side. So someone\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: to use the bank accounts, talk to the doctors without having to go to, you know, the courts for probate and everything. So that's even the $25 power of attorney kit from the post office is something. But, of course, you can talk to the public trustee or a solicitor, whichever way you guys wanna go. The only reason why I mentioned testamentary trust, Will, is because you've got the adult children as well. You can be a bit more specific in, you know, trust gets created when you pass away, and you can be a bit more specific in how that gets distributed across everybody.\n\nUnless you\n\nChannel 1: Well,\n\nChannel 0: all just wanted to go to Steve, but allows for a bit more filtering down as well.\n\nChannel 1: my manager's talking about that, actually, and we wanna we do wanna set it up so that that somehow So that we don't know. We don't have to sell the properties prematurely upon the other one's death,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: but that once there's a once the time comes to sell the properties That Cash's kids get a portion of it. Yeah. That it can be you know, if that's possible. Well, that's probably something we need to speak to a solicitor about, isn't it?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That's kind\n\nChannel 1: Is\n\nChannel 0: of\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: why you do those sets of structures because what it does is, like, it does the same thing as if you had a trust or a family trust set up now is when you pass away, it can move the asset into a trust that gets created. And then you've got all that flexibility to hold on to the assets, distribute that income, allow them to access some or all of it at different ages and things like that so you can be a little bit more future planning with it. So, yeah, absolutely talk to a solicitor about that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And is that is that trust structure? I I sort of have seen a few things coming through on Instagram about how if you I I don't know if this is correct, but if you don't have the trust structure that there's more tax involved. Is is that is that the structure that kind of avoids that death tax? The yeah.\n\nThe death tax?\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It's it's trying to avoid that, and\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it does avoid little things like stamp not stamp duty, Medicare levy on, like, super death benefits and things like that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Because, obviously, when it comes to the super side of things, if you leave it to a spouse, they're considered tax dependent, so it's tax free. If you leave it to an adult child, they are a valid beneficiary, but not a tax beneficiary.\n\nChannel 1: Right. So that's where\n\nChannel 0: So,\n\nChannel 1: they could cop tax on it that's unnecessary.\n\nChannel 0: yeah, so certain things that we do for people who are, like, 65 or retired before 65 is they\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: pull money out of super and put it back in again as non concessional and just kind of try and rinse as much of it as they can into their tax free portion. Because\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you pull that\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: tax\n\nChannel 1: heard\n\nChannel 0: free,\n\nChannel 1: about that\n\nChannel 0: you get it\n\nChannel 1: too.\n\nChannel 0: back in. So\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: recontributions are an option, especially once you start ceasing employment arrangements and things like that after 60.\n\nChannel 1: Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's all stuff we need to be aware of and plan for at the time or closer to the time. Because I think you have\n\nChannel 0: Yes.\n\nChannel 1: to pull a certain amount out each year or something, don't you? And then but then you can, yeah, put it back in.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Because the the caps, you can do that, like, the bring forward rule and everything. You could do essentially 360,000 back in. Plus if you time it around the end of financial year, another 120,000 in that each. So\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: the minimums,\n\nChannel 1: Okay.\n\nChannel 0: it's four to 5% minimum out. But, again, once you've retired, you can pull out big lump sum, put it back in again. You can do all kinds of things.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. I wanna guess they're all things that, yeah, potentially we and I guess as as we've sort of alluded, some of it, it just depends on which way it goes as to what we do next with with where we're headed. But I do like the idea of taking this manufacturing role and staying on for another probably three or four years and just really consolidating everything So we're in\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: a good in a good spot to pull the pin in a and hence why I wanna look at potentially, you know, buying using this close to get another couple of houses.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Just have them all prepared there, and it's one\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: of those things too. Like, transitioning, like, SMSF into pension phase is one thing. Trying to transition three of them into pension phase can be quite painful.\n\nChannel 1: Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. We definitely wanna get them. Yeah.\n\nThat would be really cool if we could roll them all in together. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And still try and keep all the accounting separate and everything. So I think that'll be the main thing that I'll try and help with is just restructure those a little bit.\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: And then\n\nChannel 1: Mhmm.\n\nChannel 0: you've got already, you've got three or four different options and plans a, b, c, and d. And then you will find over the next few years which one becomes right If you take this new role and then things pick up with the stocks, then that kind\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: of illuminates for you. And\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: if not,\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: then you've got those options to sell the the property and the shares and offset each other. If not, borrow off of them and buy the next one. There's there's a few options there. We just need to get you in that cleanup.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. Mm-mm. Yep. Okay. Yeah.\n\nFor sure. Sounds\n\nChannel 0: I think last thing I'm just gonna grab from you guys as well is just around the personal assets.\n\nChannel 1: good.\n\nChannel 0: We have all the SMS upside. You mentioned you had a little bit in savings at the moment. Can I just take down a bit of an estimate, please?\n\nChannel 1: It's I had a look before. It's a signal about 25 k at the moment.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. And that's sitting in offset?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Email Mortgage account. No. No. Said account, but it's doing the same thing.\n\nYep.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. K. And did you say you had two properties personally?\n\nChannel 1: No. Just the one\n\nChannel 0: Just the one,\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: and\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: the one\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: that you're trying to sell for the around about 200,000 profit area.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Can I just quickly grab the value and amount selling for that one?\n\nChannel 1: So, currently, we think it's worth around $3.53 60, and it's it owes well, with the 25 sitting in there, we owe a 150.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. 150 after the cash. And are there any other assets or liabilities loans floating around?\n\nChannel 1: Well, I'll get I'll get the bonus within this year. I've got also got a lease card that in twelve months leases up. So I either keep it for another two years potentially or sell it off, and then it'll I should generate about $20 from selling it. Credit cards would be fine. Well, they're all negligible now.\n\nOkay? They're getting close. Yeah. Personal loan's\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: down to about 6, but it's offsetting my my personal shares. So the\n\nChannel 0: So it's\n\nChannel 1: the interest\n\nChannel 0: six on\n\nChannel 1: that\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: personal\n\nChannel 1: call it.\n\nChannel 0: loan.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. I've got about four and a half in one savings just just in basic just a little basic sort of I accumulate money there, and then I push it over when once I know that my bills are covered for the period or whatever. I push it\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: over into the mortgage account. And I'm just back from Vegas, so I've got about three.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: But I've also got we've also got other shares, personal shares, and crypto and shit, which, you know, everything's but at the moment, none of them are very pretty either.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Oh,\n\nChannel 0: Right. Are we talking\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Customer's.\n\nChannel 0: five, ten, 20?\n\nChannel 1: I've got about 30. I think mine's about 10 or was 10. It's now so I know. It's not much. It's very little bit.\n\nHold on. I'll just that's a little bit me.\n\nChannel 0: So, Steve, you're 30. Is that the split between crypto and shares, or is it just the\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: shares?\n\nChannel 1: That's no. That's a split between the two now. That's\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: I'll just go into so my my personal is sitting at about three, four at the minute. So it was probably, you know, seven to ten pre at all dropping.\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: I'm sorry. I'm\n\nChannel 0: And that's\n\nChannel 1: just having\n\nChannel 0: the\n\nChannel 1: trouble.\n\nChannel 0: shares.\n\nChannel 1: It's not playing now. Tommy,\n\nChannel 0: No. That's\n\nChannel 1: I've\n\nChannel 0: okay.\n\nChannel 1: got so I'm sorry we've kept you over past six. I've got someone here picking me up.\n\nChannel 0: That is okay. I pretty much have everything I need, to be honest. Alright, guys.\n\nChannel 1: Nice\n\nChannel 0: Well,\n\nChannel 1: to\n\nChannel 0: what\n\nChannel 1: meet\n\nChannel 0: I'll\n\nChannel 1: you,\n\nChannel 0: do\n\nChannel 1: Tommy. I'll talk to you soon, or we'll send you the details. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely, Josh. Have a great Easter, man.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Alright.\n\nChannel 1: But yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Steve.\n\nChannel 1: So that's\n\nChannel 0: Bye.\n\nChannel 1: I think and then, yeah, then that's pretty much it for all that sort of stuff.\n\nChannel 0: Perfect. Perfect. The only last thing I didn't capture before, Tash Wren, was just her car value.\n\nChannel 1: It's about six weeks. We've heard we've done because we don't use it much out here. We've got the my car, and then we just got a little a uke, a Commodore uke that we I run around to work in.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. So six for Tasha's car. You've got your leased car, and then you've got a Yoot as well?\n\nChannel 1: No. No. Just a lease car.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Perfect.\n\nChannel 1: And it's\n\nChannel 0: Alrighty.\n\nChannel 1: a Subaru XV, so it's probably worth about $30.35.\n\nChannel 0: Do you reckon you're clear about 20 if you sold\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: it in\n\nChannel 1: Once\n\nChannel 0: a year?\n\nChannel 1: once I've I gotta pay $11.03 at the June next year. So the thing and I think I should be able to sell it for 30. It's actually it's only got 60 odd thousand k's on it. So\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Okay. Not bad. So I think I've got all the assets, liabilities. We've got all of that information, estate planning sorted.\n\nThat's pretty much it, mate. I've we've talked about quite a few different things. Any thoughts so far, Steve, before I let you go?\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I guess it'd be good once we know that the like, my my hopes are that as I said, initially, we were heavily into the redundancy phase and looking at that. And at at one stage, we even looked at, you know, many not working for a while and trying to build the side hustles. But because of the length of slowness that they have, we thought, yeah, that's possibly not a good idea. And because we just predominantly didn't initially wanna move down south because it would you know, I'd have to earn considerably more to stay where we're at.\n\nOur mortgage is about 1,100. So but moving\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: north would work first because we would buy and we didn't wanna buy because we only wanted, you know, a couple more years. But with recent events, I I think we're sort of looking at options and just looking to show make sure we make sure everything that we're doing because not a lot of people have done this before from what we can see. Like, my all means was a surveyor. He's retired. But, you know, he's got your traditional Aussie shares, you know, BHP and National Bank and all that.\n\nAnd that's what we started with, but it was just gonna be too slow. You know, we'd be working towards 70 five to generate enough income from them to pull the pin. So this is sort of fast tracked to the housing and stuff like that. So now it's just\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: storing up to make sure that, you know, we do have enough decent shares that generate income to live off so we're not eating into the capital. Because that was always the aim, to not have to draw down on the capital, like, sell shares\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: to to have income for each year, because then you're obviously limited you know, how many shares how long you can live. Whereas our aim was always to have the dividends generating. And then as you back up, you then have to start to sell off shares.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. As a kind of last resort, but it will keep you going\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: for most of the years.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Hopefully.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So what I need to do as well is I'll do that investigation first around whether we can clean up and restructure the SMSFs a little bit before\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: we go too far down the process. If it is promising, one thing I might do because like I said, if we do go that route and if we do have to use, like,\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: one of the Macquarie accounts, we can tie it all together. I'll do\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: a little bit of a risk profile questionnaire with you guys, which takes about ten minutes, And I'll come up with some options for you and say, hey. If we were to try and balance this a little bit, here's a few other investment options you can add into the mix.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And then\n\nChannel 1: Two.\n\nChannel 0: if you want, you could pretty much manage them yourself as well. Like, you'd have\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: a short list of, you know, here's this gold ETF. Here's this fixed interest fund, credit funds, different types of options, and then you can pretty much invest the excess. Like, you know how you've been doing that with the shares? You've\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: got your contributions, maintaining the property. Anything else apart from that can go into the the shares in the portfolio. Once you set up, like, a a model portfolio on the account, you can pretty much just put it all in, and it'll split it between the proportions if you wanna go that way or do a bit\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: of day trading, buying, and selling specific ones.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Which is I've had well, actually, just started. I got I got perplexity although I've ran a fucking credit. So I've got perplexity to do a a Forex trading platform for me. So every morning, I log on and it at this stage, I'm only looking at the major the major currencies, gold, silver, and oil.\n\nAnd\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right.\n\nChannel 1: and it tells me every morning, it tells me what are the ones I need to have a bit of a closer look at based on a set of criteria we've set up to say, yes. It's a strong chance of of being a win, and I'm working on a strategy that you only actually need to generate four trades out of 10. Four trades out of 10 when you're in profit. So it's 34% means I'll be in profit.\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: But, obviously, if you could hit 50%, you know, you're well in profit.\n\nChannel 0: That'll set you up pretty nicely. Do you do you reckon you'd always carry on doing a bit of trading once you've once you've\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: hung up the\n\nChannel 1: Because\n\nChannel 0: boots? Tash will be working in The Philippines, and you'll be doing a bit of day trading?\n\nChannel 1: well, one of my aims is, yeah, is to get into options trading.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. That'd\n\nChannel 1: Particularly\n\nChannel 0: be fun.\n\nChannel 1: selling calls is what I wanna sort of get in. Like, I wanna keep that side pretty safe, but just generate income potentially. So once we start to pull a pin, and that was also part of the reasoning why we wanna start to amass cash and and I've bought shares like SoFi and this big bear. Although, if we weren't getting the the solar put on, I'd I'd drop another 10 or $15 in the SoFi because it's it got up it shot up just after we bought them to about $28.30 bucks. And with all that's going on, it's come back down to about 16, and I paid 14 for them.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: You're right. Goodbye,\n\nChannel 1: I'd happily\n\nChannel 0: you reckon?\n\nChannel 1: buy another another few 100 of them as a pure growth because I think they'll start to rival the big US banks in the coming years\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: probably go up to around 75. Like, we've had a lot of we've had an awful lot of shares that if we had to held on to, we would have had a shitload of capital, but we didn't have enough. Like, I had plenty of tear at about $14, and it's now a $160 share. But\n\nChannel 0: Jeez.\n\nChannel 1: I didn't have enough to make a substantial difference. You\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: know, I\n\nChannel 0: Yep.\n\nChannel 1: had, like, a couple 100 shares. So even even with the jump, it wasn't usually we can retire, and that's why we threw it all into the dividend stuff. So we we generated about we put together a 160 k in under six months,\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: We\n\nChannel 0: Wow.\n\nChannel 1: which is what we used to buy this Harley Bay property.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: kind\n\nChannel 1: since\n\nChannel 0: of caught you\n\nChannel 1: then\n\nChannel 0: up a little bit, hasn't it?\n\nChannel 1: since then, it's sort of we've taken a smashing because, you know, if the market drops 10%, we'll drop 12.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But the other thing is that offsets that is while the market while we drop 12% each week, we also get paid a dividend.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. So the income's still strong out of it.\n\nChannel 1: It's it's it's okay. It's not as as I said, you know, I was so, like, one of my main shares is NVIDIA, which is a yield max derivative of Nvidia, which, you know,\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: has taken a fucking absolute pounding in The US, thanks to Donald. But it at the time, it was paying I got about 2,300 shares in it at around $20 a share. For most of the time, I was always 30 odd grand even in NAV up, but I'm now $30 down NAV wise. But it was paying anywhere up to $4 a month in dividends. Currently,\n\nChannel 0: Have you ever worked out what\n\nChannel 1: the\n\nChannel 0: that works out to be as a percentage, like as a percentage income return?\n\nChannel 1: I yeah. At one stage, it was, like, a 120% or something crazy. Like, and even now, it's still paying about 1,200 a month. So and they haven't had to do a reverse a reverse what's his name on it. They've so it's still worth 2,300 shares.\n\nSo if it picks up if they can maintain it and it stays good, it will get back up to, you know, potentially where either loan could pay anywhere up to a thousand bucks a a week in dividends.\n\nChannel 0: Wow. I didn't expect it\n\nChannel 1: But\n\nChannel 0: to be that high, but that's a pretty good portion.\n\nChannel 1: but it comes it comes with, obviously, with risk. Like, a a number of the other ones, like, Tesla, which is a derivative of Tesla, you know, they've done the reverse split. So, you know, where where is or I might have had 1,700 shares, they're now 300 shares or 400 shares\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: or whatever. So which means the dividends still largely stay the stay the same, but they've they do cop a bit more of a beating if if the market has a big downturn or there's all this volatility. But, see, I've offset a lot of that with I've got some bonds by this TLTW, which is a bond, a long term US bond share. I've got some SVAL, which is into the the VIX and the volatility. So, you know, it plays on\n\nChannel 0: Okay.\n\nChannel 1: the volatility. But and then the shares I'm trying to offset, and it it's unfortunate. As I said, the last few months, all I've done is, like I think in January, I've paid I've paid 4,800 in tax. And then each month after that, it's still I'm paying, like, nearly $3 a month out of me super in tax\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Jeez.\n\nChannel 1: to catch up and to get back in front. So\n\nChannel 0: At\n\nChannel 1: because\n\nChannel 0: least you got a\n\nChannel 1: of\n\nChannel 0: couple\n\nChannel 1: first\n\nChannel 0: of the safer place that you're kind of trying to build into as well.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. Which was always the aim. It was always you know, we had to go risky at the start to or in our lives, we had to go risky at the start to get up there. So and then back off and divert it out so that we were, you know, down the track because we just didn't like, we weren't it wasn't going anywhere when we had because I had about 200,000 in it. Once you bought ANZ and, you know, all the Aussie shares, you know, you were generating it at such a low rate, and they've been up and down and choppy as well.\n\nLike, BHP, you know, BHP hasn't probably really gone up since when we bought\n\nChannel 0: Nah.\n\nChannel 1: it. Originally, eve even though we've sold them, they keep going up and down sort of but, see, I had things like, I had stakes in, I had shares in Tesla that I and Amazon that I picked up for 100, and Amazon's about 200 now. Tesla's up. I bought them at a 130 or something and sold them at about 180, and they're now $3.40.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: But, again, none of them have had, like, you know, 1,200 shares or 2,000 shares where selling them for 200% gain gives you massive wins.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. It would have been a big percentage of a small parcel, but\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. So,\n\nChannel 0: I guess it\n\nChannel 1: you\n\nChannel 0: all\n\nChannel 1: know,\n\nChannel 0: stacked\n\nChannel 1: it was\n\nChannel 0: eventually too.\n\nChannel 1: yeah. That's it. And if it if it went pear shaped, like, because, you know, there's two sides to Tesla. But I always thought they'd they would be AI side would be the side that took more. They've worked got better at than the cars anyway.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. See, before I start off, I forgot\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: to ask Natasha for her date of birth. Do you\n\nChannel 1: Yep. 1970.\n\nChannel 0: That's it. I knew it was '70, and you were '68. Right?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Correct.\n\nChannel 0: And you're what what day of month of year?\n\nChannel 1: September 21\n\nChannel 0: Twenty\n\nChannel 1: sixty\n\nChannel 0: first\n\nChannel 1: eight.\n\nChannel 0: September. Fantastic. Thank you very much. That was the last little thing I was just looking through. The data I caption went out.\n\nThere's a blank box there. Date of birth. Whoops. Awesome, mate. Is there anything else that I mean, besides the the self managed super fund, anything else besides the estate planning that I've I've missed so far?\n\nChannel 1: No. I think no. That I think that pretty much that color is all we're looking to do at this stage, I think.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. There's a few things you guys need to come back to down the line. Like I said, once\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: you hit that 60 plus, your contribution strategy is gonna be pretty important, and just getting everything into pension phase and optimizing it with the taxes and the jobs and everything, but that's that's not for a few years yet.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. No. And I guess the next big thing is, yeah, what happens job wise. Like, if this Melinda job comes off, then then I've got a what we sort of already touched on, look at how I I offset that. So but until that happens, which is probably a good two months away before a decision hope is probable, then, you know, it's just play on.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yep. K. What I might do too is, like I said, I'll do the research first, but I'll probably send through, like, a bit of a if we if there's a bit of an idea and plan on what we can do and there's gonna be an actual benefit from it, I'll put\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: together, like, a statement\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: of advice and just outline here's everything that you should do, here's the pros and cons, here's everything in paper, what you what you stand to gain and save.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: And then I was gonna let Natasha know as well just with our phase to go through the advice is\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: we usually cap the SMSF advice at four nine five o, but that's obviously incumbent on the benefit that\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: you get as well. So I need to make sure\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: I can actually save you that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Otherwise,\n\nChannel 1: Perfect.\n\nChannel 0: that wouldn't be worth going through all the rigmarole.\n\nChannel 1: No. For for any of us.\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: But yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Awesome.\n\nChannel 1: No. That sounds good.\n\nChannel 0: Cool. I'm glad to have had this chat. This is, again, one of the most exotic setups I've seen, and it's actually pretty fun. I I told the guys this before because they all left at five because, you know, clock watches and the rest. I said, I've got a couple of them about to talk to with three self managed super funds.\n\nThey said, wow. Can't wait to see what you do with that.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah. Trust\n\nChannel 0: I said,\n\nChannel 1: me.\n\nChannel 0: first, I gotta get some information first. I can't just come up with it out of nowhere, but, no, we're starting to paint a bit of a picture, aren't we?\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Because it's not just for shelf and super fun. There's a whole lot\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: of other stuff going on around it.\n\nChannel 0: But\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: the cool thing too\n\nChannel 1: but\n\nChannel 0: is you as you've noticed is once we break it down into smaller chunks, it starts getting clearer what the options are for each chunk. And then once you've got\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: two or three options for each bit and you split out what the time frames are, what's immediate, what's in three years' time, what's in five years' time, all of a sudden, you can make some choices.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And and that's, I guess, the way we sort of yeah. That validation is to, you know, like, at the moment, whilst our supers look like they're really crappy, you know, if we didn't do what we did, we wouldn't have an investment property that's probably jumped over $200 in a year.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. And\n\nChannel 1: You\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: know?\n\nChannel 0: the thing\n\nChannel 1: And and\n\nChannel 0: too, is it could very quickly be, yes, you've gotten an extra asset out of it. So fantastic for building it up and then being able to leverage into another asset. That's fantastic, number one. And then\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: number two, if those stocks rebound as well, you've got a pretty healthy balance. You're still on a healthy income level. You're not in a bad spot compared to a lot of people.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Well, that's kind of what we are. And that but but it sort of also once the dividend started to drop a little bit and they started to do that, is some of these reverse bloody reverse sales on them. So we dropped the share volume down. We thought, you know, we probably don't wanna rely just because we already knew that, you know, you can't retire.\n\nIf you've been busy your whole working life, you can't just retire and stop. You gotta\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: keep moving or you or you'll die. So that and this sort of opened our lives and said, alright. So let's let's work on some stuff now that that's not work. And I I watch a lot of YouTube. So, like, I've got YouTube Premium because I watch that much, and I ads shit me.\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Same.\n\nChannel 1: And and, like, we look at all these people, you know, traveling overseas, and and that's their job. And we said, well, let's work on stuff like that where, you know, eventually, when when the time comes, hopefully, we're monetized on YouTube, making a little bit of stuff there. Like, I'm looking at getting you know, we'll look at getting some products, some affiliate marketing, some do do some digital, and a lot of them get into teaching and coaching. And, like, I've actually I was a personal trainer at and coach at Australian Institute of Fitness in Melbourne, so I actually used to teach people how to be personal trainers. So coaching and stuff, I don't mind.\n\nIt was good fun. So, like, I potentially, you know, I might look to get do some of that where you actually coach people. And because our story is fairly unique and certainly a little bit different from, you know, start young, put all your money into super, and then let compounding in compounding take its toll when you're 60. You know, we because I one of the videos on Amigos is that I challenge the you know, you've gotta have 250 k to buy an investment property in.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: You know, I I sometimes think that's the super industry. There's one thing I've learned is that if I calculate what I've paid in the super versus what I was able to pull out and put into the SSMS, it's probably only about the same money that I put in. Or\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: actually, it grew by about three or 4%, and I was always in the aggressive brackets because I'm very much risk tolerant, which obviously shows in in what we've done.\n\nChannel 0: The amount of shares and things you've got and trading at\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: your age, yeah, absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: And I've sort of challenged all that because I know that a lot of the big super funds, they're buying into all these dividend funds and stuff that I've got as well. So they're they're generating these huge dividends, and I just don't see how they're passing them on to to the the individual super hovers.\n\nChannel 0: No. No.\n\nChannel 1: But but they've they've gotta be holding on to it or and keeping the dividends for themselves, and you just get the CPI or whatever, which is basically all my super ever went up, CPI.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. No. I think it's, like you said, you've you've flipped the script a little bit, and good on you for catching it up\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: so quick and in such a short period of time. And it's not, you know, it's it can be scary to to jump in and and do that, but it's it's paid off pretty well so far.\n\nChannel 1: So far, yes. That's that's the million dollar question so far.\n\nChannel 0: So far, it's gonna keep the momentum going, make a few\n\nChannel 1: In\n\nChannel 0: right\n\nChannel 1: in\n\nChannel 0: choices,\n\nChannel 1: five years,\n\nChannel 0: and you\n\nChannel 1: what\n\nChannel 0: should\n\nChannel 1: will\n\nChannel 0: be\n\nChannel 1: it\n\nChannel 0: sweet.\n\nChannel 1: be? Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: Well, that's and that's why we're sort of yeah. Now's the time. You know, we've got the house. We we're potentially in a position to get another couple, you know, if we and that's where we're looking at splitting this off and putting, you know, like, we when we because what happened out here was I got the job, but we couldn't get anywhere to to rent, which was what we wanted to do. And we'd started investing all our personal money into the shares as well.\n\nSo we had no cash, so much lying\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Right.\n\nChannel 1: around. So we we scraped together 5%. So we paid a 197,000 for this place three years ago or less than three years ago. Two just a two bedroom unit in Kingaroy, but we scraped together the 5%. And, like, he we never expected it to do what it's done, whereas it's now, you know, probably worth a minimum of $3.50.\n\nChannel 0: If not, $3.60.\n\nChannel 1: And\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: if not yeah. And depending on how long we hold it on for, and that's why we thought, well, can we buy this with our super? No. But then I started to think, well, what if if we take the money and give it up and buy a house for ourselves, you know, even if we only use 10%, try and get one personally for 10%, even if we have to pay the mortgage insurance and then try and get another couple through our super or at least another\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: another property in the super. We're buying two properties instead of one. And from where everything I see, prices are only gonna keep going up because the government aren't doing anything to bring prices down. They're actually making it fucking worse in everything they're doing. All their strategies are just making housing worse.\n\nChannel 0: Well, that's what a lot of these guys are doing is they're they're buying a few through the super and then holding them until that 60 plus range and then selling them off so they can avoid the capital gains tax. So it's an option.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. And that's what you know, you use use one to help pay down the other two and and then I get ownership of, you know, even if we could use one to pay there or you sell off another. If we could buy another two, they grow, and then we use them, sell them off and pay the house outright, and then it's generating pure income. So\n\nChannel 0: I'm actually writing\n\nChannel 1: things\n\nChannel 0: this down to potentially buy another two properties with that. Like you said, contributors in, potentially leverage off of those.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because what I've read what what what I've got out of chat is if we were to can put that put a 100 k into their supers out of it, it potentially would, on the back end, give us about a 20,000 15 to $20,000 tax check back next the following year for for the contributions, which\n\nChannel 0: Absolutely.\n\nChannel 1: we could then dump straight back in on something\n\nChannel 0: Yep. Or at least have the cash there or offset on\n\nChannel 1: or\n\nChannel 0: the next\n\nChannel 1: have\n\nChannel 0: property\n\nChannel 1: yeah.\n\nChannel 0: that you get, whatever\n\nChannel 1: Or,\n\nChannel 0: it is.\n\nChannel 1: yeah, have cash or if if gold could take a bit of a like a $2,000 dip.\n\nChannel 0: Oh, well, that's one of those ones where I've just been chipping away at it since, well, 2012 now. I'm I'm always every week, every month, but it would be nice for a bit of a pullback. That's for sure.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. But mind you, if you if you've sat on some since 2012, it'd be looking pretty nice\n\nChannel 0: Yes. Yes. It is.\n\nChannel 1: because it would have been under well, it would have been 1 well, under a grand, I reckon, in 2012.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. No. There was yeah. There was a few that were sitting there under just under 2, I think, at the time, and was sitting at 30.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: I mean, I went down to 16 at one point two.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Good\n\nChannel 1: I\n\nChannel 0: fun.\n\nChannel 1: don't think it'll ever get back to those levels because what's sitting at\n\nChannel 0: No.\n\nChannel 1: about $4.07 at the moment, $4.06 or something at the moment,\n\nChannel 0: For all gold sitting at $6.07.\n\nChannel 1: $6.07. I was a yeah. My I'm probably thinking US 4\n\nChannel 0: US.\n\nChannel 1: seven.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Alright.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah.\n\nChannel 0: Safe,\n\nChannel 1: So\n\nChannel 0: mate. I'm\n\nChannel 1: Alright.\n\nChannel 0: gonna get going. My my\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: missus just texted me to get home.\n\nChannel 1: Yep. No worries.\n\nChannel 0: But it was really lovely meeting you both of you. And when we get through to the other end, I'll I'll jump on the old the video call next time and say hello.\n\nChannel 1: Perfect.\n\nChannel 0: And I will I'll be sending you a pretty big email with a few things to get.\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: Once we get the info, I'll probably book in for a bit of a follow-up with you first because there's\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: a couple\n\nChannel 1: No.\n\nChannel 0: of other things I wanna run by you first before we go through to the endpoint.\n\nChannel 1: No problem.\n\nChannel 0: Awesome, mate. Well, you guys have\n\nChannel 1: Excellent.\n\nChannel 0: a fantastic Easter. Have you got much on for the Easter weekend? Is it gonna be a quiet one or you zipping\n\nChannel 1: I'm\n\nChannel 0: around?\n\nChannel 1: off I didn't actually realize it was Easter weekend, so I'm off to Sydney tomorrow to watch the dragon Saturday night\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: and\n\nChannel 0: Right.\n\nChannel 1: then hopefully head off to the casino and win some money at the casino on the roulette strategy I first tried in Vegas.\n\nChannel 0: I'll I'll factor that into the plan once you come back with the winnings.\n\nChannel 1: Yes. Yes. That's the clear that could be the other stream professional roulette player. If if\n\nChannel 0: Oh,\n\nChannel 1: you could\n\nChannel 0: that's\n\nChannel 1: just\n\nChannel 0: gold.\n\nChannel 1: pop if you could pop that in just for shits and giggles and I'll and highlight that one for Tash.\n\nChannel 0: Yeah. So when I'm gonna hide it the entire time, and I'll put in as a long term goal professional roulette player\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: and self funded retiree from it.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: And then that'll be your personal goal.\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: And\n\nChannel 1: That's\n\nChannel 0: so\n\nChannel 1: it.\n\nChannel 0: when she sees that in the SOA, she'll have a laugh.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. Because she I went to Vegas to the, you know, for the opening round, and, of course, she has an absolutely zero interest in football or gambling. So so she stayed on with the animals, and so I said, well, instead of doing that, right, I'll find business class with Delta. And so that's what I did through business class with Delta, stayed at Circa on Fremont Street. I only went for a week and had an absolute blast.\n\nSo\n\nChannel 0: Off you went. And you're\n\nChannel 1: yep.\n\nChannel 0: gonna try it out this weekend.\n\nChannel 1: Yeah. I I tried it one. I got a couple of photos with a fair chunk of going to pick up. Started with 210 $212,100\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: only\n\nChannel 0: Yeah.\n\nChannel 1: because I couldn't be bothered to keep going. And and I didn't wanna lose that 1,200, but it it's pretty slow and steady, but, yeah, it seems to do alright.\n\nChannel 0: Cool. I'll try and avoid the casino this weekend because I'm\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: bad\n\nChannel 1: Good good\n\nChannel 0: for it.\n\nChannel 1: idea.\n\nChannel 0: I'll just be staying with the kids and eating some chalky.\n\nChannel 1: Nice. Oh, are we doing a are you doing an egg hunt?\n\nChannel 0: Yes. That's what I'm gonna\n\nChannel 1: Yes.\n\nChannel 0: do is go around and put all that around the yard, put\n\nChannel 1: Yep.\n\nChannel 0: in some spots where the dog won't get it.\n\nChannel 1: So you've obviously got kids young enough that they're into the still into the egg hunt and all. 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The That's odds exactly the odds are I remember last time at the casino, it was three zeros came up, and I was just like, you gotta be kidding on the roulette. it.","start_word":16793,"end_word":16857,"intents":[{"intent":"Evaluate odds","confidence_score":0.19849166}]}]},"sentiments":{"segments":[{"text":"Hi, Steve. It's Tommy here from Oakview Financial, mate. How are you doing? Not bad, mate. Yourself?","start_word":0,"end_word":16,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.21438688039779663},{"text":"Living the dream so far.","start_word":17,"end_word":21,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4676498770713806},{"text":"It's Easter in a couple of hours. How are you going? That's it. Yeah. Well, I had took today off, so I'm good.","start_word":22,"end_word":44,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.19037066400051117},{"text":"Oh, I fantastic, just mate. Well, thank you for Good. spending a bit of time with me.","start_word":45,"end_word":61,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5386229753494263},{"text":"No worries. We actually we're just sitting here with our beach backdrop on the on Google.","start_word":62,"end_word":77,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22315660119056704},{"text":"Fantastic. Fantastic.","start_word":78,"end_word":79,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5999462008476257},{"text":"Well, am I on speakerphone? Can I say hi to Natasha? Yep. Certainly can. Yeah. Hi, Tommy. How are you doing, Tash? How you been? Good. Thanks. So so are we supposed to be in the Google Meet? I'm not actually in Google Meet at the moment. I was just giving you guys a quick phone call. Do you want me to jump on on there now? I can switch across. We don't really care, to be fair. Like, phone's fine or or that. Yeah. Cool. Well, while I've got you guys, I just wanted to have a bit of an introductory chat and get a bit of an idea of what's going on because you're in a very interesting situation, if I if I may say so myself. Yes. Well, it got Yep. since Monday, it actually got a bit more interesting. Did it? What happened? Well so the first phase was we were looking at the redundancy part, but since then, there's a position that's actually opened up at Melinda for Okay. a manufacturing manager that potentially will then escalate out or will cascade up to the site leader because, apparently, the current site leader wants to head back south for for family reasons. Right. So you might have something to sort of tie you over for a few years between now and when you go overseas. Yeah. So whereas we were sort of originally looking at, you know, maximum of two years and trying to probably tie everything in before June in that time frame for tax stuff, Yeah. we we now potentially will look to push you know, that is depending on its role. Could you look to push the other out an extra couple of years even because the potential benefits may well be there. Yeah. But we've Okay. also since we talked to the girls on Monday, we've sort of gone back and rehashed what we wanted to do. We think we know a couple of things because we did ask chat GBT, and they were pretty adamant. But and we think you'll confirm that, but we sort of had a couple of other ideas around what we do with the current property that we've got as well and how Yeah. we And change that's just that your up. home in Kingaroy? Yeah. Correct. Okay. What ideas did you guys come up with, if you don't mind me asking? Well, originally, we thought could because we've actually got we currently got three SMS, Yep. two individuals, which we can't do much with because of the massive erosion that we've suffered, but the dividend still is producing.","start_word":80,"end_word":521,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.02314141082337202},{"text":"So we're happy to Yeah. do that.","start_word":522,"end_word":528,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6047477722167969},{"text":"Then we've got the third joint one that's got Harley Bay property tied into it, and we were wondering if we thought we might be able to buy this place as part of the SMSF. And then from the proceeds, put that towards the new property when we if I was to get this job. Yeah.","start_word":529,"end_word":584,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1822419315576553},{"text":"But Chat was very adamant that we can't do that.","start_word":585,"end_word":594,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.6781361699104309},{"text":"Yeah. All of the arm's length rules and all the fun regulations Yeah. around it. Right? Yeah. So I've come up with a plan b if we can't Mhmm.","start_word":595,"end_word":623,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.11499056965112686},{"text":"do that because we're not overly keen on staying in anyway.","start_word":624,"end_word":634,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3421023488044739},{"text":"So, I mean, it was just an easy outcome if we could do it that way. And Yeah. we would Yeah. save, you know, stamp duty not stamp duty, but save, you know, agent fees and all that sort of shit. But plan b was and sort of plan b is evolving as well is that if we were to sell this place, we we think we should net about $200. Yeah. We one of the things we're looking at is should we could we divvy that up, drop, you know, a percentage keep a percentage to purchase a house? So it does not necessarily 20% because we need 20% during that and then drop the balance into our joint super between us Yeah. and use that then as the deposit to get either one or two more properties in the joint super. Yeah. Right. Okay.","start_word":635,"end_word":780,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.01965052986594096},{"text":"That's an interesting idea. Absolutely.","start_word":781,"end_word":785,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.39586371183395386},{"text":"So because I I know that, you know, the more money we put onto the the initial house, the less interest you pay. But currently, the two properties that we own, the the amount they seem to be going up far outweighs what we'd be copping in interest in. You know, if they're investments, we've got someone else paying, you know, a fair proportion. The investment property, we've also got dividends that flow in. So we we also generate at this stage around 1,200 a month in dividends, dropping into that investment property as well. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's just from your your personal assets, not not counting anything in the self managed super funds. Right? No. No. No. Sorry. We purchased shares in in we've also put in that self managed super fund, that third one. We've also purchased shares in that to generate dividends. That's that's the dividend he's talking about, the joint That's in the the joint US super stocks. pay. Yeah. So we've got US stocks in all three in all three supers. Yeah. Right. Okay. So let me get a bit of a lay of the land then because I I thought it was a bit more kind of clean-cut split between that. So you've got the the three cell phone and super funds. You don't have any kind of standard super accounts floating around outside it as a satellite, do you? No. No. Just self managed. Perfect. Alright. So I'm just gonna do a bit of an asset breakdown for a second, and I might even get a bit of information from you guys after this. But you've got the three. One of them is joint. Two of them are solo. Yep. Correct. K. Do you guys have one H solo, or are they both underused, Steve? 9I1H. One h. Okay. So you've Yep. got one H, one joint. So the joint one, that's where you've got the Harvey Bay property. Correct. Okay. What's the value in owing on that one? Well, we are about, let's say, $5.10. Yep. According we purchased it for $6.41, but realestate.com at the moment has it at I think I thought it said the latest one was $8.50. Yep. K. So you're a little bit there with a bit of a loan attached to it, and that one's got a bit of US stocks as well. Yes.","start_word":786,"end_word":1184,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04198028060390537},{"text":"That's the one that's that's generating about 1,200 a month in US stocks, about 300 a week.","start_word":1185,"end_word":1201,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3505008816719055},{"text":"And that's the dividends just coming straight in to that cash account. Yep. And as currently, our super also goes into that account. Both of your contributions go in there? Yep. At this stage. Contribution Yep. funds. Okay.","start_word":1202,"end_word":1239,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.14155566692352295},{"text":"Perfect. Perfect.","start_word":1240,"end_word":1241,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5104609727859497},{"text":"So with the the account structure, you've obviously got a bank account that's flowing through all of the rents and payments and dividends and everything. To purchase The US stocks, did you just go through a brokerage account? Like, did you set up a Comsec, or what what platform Yeah. are Through you using? all all my stuff through CMC. CMC. Yeah. For the stock purchases. And what's the value of the stocks in in that SMSF? I haven't looked recently, probably 20 or $30. Yep. K. So nothing too crazy there. Just a little bit No. that's well, I guess you're investing the excess from the contributions. Right? Whatever's not been used for the property is just kind of buying into a few stocks. Yeah. And the aim was because we were going to retire in, you know, within that two year, we wanted once our super stopped going into it, we wanted to make sure because we currently receive about 2,400 in rent, and we the contribute we have to pay about 3,600. Yeah. So the the 1,200, the egg, we always wanted to set it up so that we once we stop working, we didn't have to contribute. Yeah. And the contributions are kind of holding that up at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with Yep. with the aim as always, we need a few more, but at this stage with the way the markets have been and and the fact that some of these shares have taken a beating because we're we're sitting pretty I've also got a a small amount of growth shares in there like SoFi and Big Bear, but obviously, they're also taking a bit of a pounding, or that's a good time to get back into SoFi. Yeah. So when it comes to The US shares, one of the things that I'm kind of worried about at the moment with a lot of clients is the exchange rate between Yes. US dollars and Australian dollars. So you've got to be really careful there.","start_word":1242,"end_word":1583,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0034823008208421237},{"text":"It's taken a bit of a dive since January 2025.","start_word":1584,"end_word":1593,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3743094205856323},{"text":"So even Yes.","start_word":1594,"end_word":1596,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.26093196868896484},{"text":"if you were trying to sell them, your exchange getting them across into the country is gonna chop a bit off of your returns too.","start_word":1597,"end_word":1621,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4626909494400024},{"text":"Yeah. About 20<unk> at least a share. And so some for cases, it was about 30<unk> a share. Yeah. So it's That's one of only the things 30<unk> where a dollar. timing Yep. is gonna be big for that one, for when you sell Yeah. those or if you just use them for dividends. K. And with the other two SMSFs, what's what's in those? Yeah. Well, the well, mine's sitting on about $2.50, but the book value is about $5.70. But currently, mine's down about 5053%, I think. But Right. it's still it's still generating around $6 a 4 to $6 a month in dividends. Yeah. Although, the last three months or what, and that was setting up around $14 a month. But, obviously, everything's taken a pounding at the moment. So Yeah. So it's currently but we'll sitting at $2.50 at the moment. yep. K.","start_word":1622,"end_word":1771,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.026744425296783447},{"text":"That's a bit rough.","start_word":1769,"end_word":1772,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3811265230178833},{"text":"You're in a bit of a bit of a spot there where you've got all these assets tied up, but not really much wiggle room to do anything with them. No. Correct. Yeah. And, Tash, what about your SMSF? Is that similar in US stocks, or what's that invested in? Yeah. It's all US. So the current capital is up 73,000, but it the initial capital was 174,000. Yep. Yep. Okay.","start_word":1773,"end_word":1843,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.11892960220575333},{"text":"So that'll be crystallizing quite a bit of losses to do anything with those at this point.","start_word":1844,"end_word":1860,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3717117309570313},{"text":"Yes. And it's been that way since we looked at because when we when we went over to the joint SMS set, Mhmm. the dividends were flowing in a lot better, Yeah.","start_word":1861,"end_word":1892,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03622348979115486},{"text":"but the capital had already started to dwindle.","start_word":1893,"end_word":1900,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.46647176146507263},{"text":"And so, yeah, we didn't we didn't wanna sort of sell off to move it across at that time even though we know we're paying, you know, triple the fees. Yeah. I get you.","start_word":1901,"end_word":1934,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2691822648048401},{"text":"So that's a bit painful.","start_word":1935,"end_word":1939,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.34762850403785706},{"text":"Does that mean you guys have three different trust set up, and are you just individual trustees for these? So joint on one, you're not using any companies or anything? They're all they've all got so they've all been set up properly. I had my SMS since about 2013, maybe 2015. Okay. Yeah. And then Steve got his about 2022. That yeah. 2223. Yeah. So they've been done, like so mine's got, like, the holding, the entire White Holdings as the trustee for the entire White Superfund. Perfect. The only one that's got the the bare the bare was it bare trust and the and the acquisition type entity involved is the joint one. That's the one For that we the pay property? the higher fees on. Yeah. Because you'd need that for that the loan for the property. Yeah. Yeah. So, technically, you're floating around with essentially four trusts and four trustees, really. Yeah. Yeah. Because you've got two for the to for the property one. Yeah. Two for the joint one and then one each for the solo.","start_word":1940,"end_word":2119,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.00937480665743351},{"text":"That must be costing you guys a bit in audit fees and tax returns, wouldn't it?","start_word":2120,"end_word":2135,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4539346694946289},{"text":"Yeah. A little it's not too bad. It the it's so the individuals are worth 12 to 1,300. I think yours was a bit higher because you've got Shit going on. Even more than going on than me. So I think oh, maybe not. That's 700 for the individually for the tax returns for our individual super funds. $2. Plus, of course, the order to fees are, what, $3.85 each a pop. So, yeah, there is some additional fees in there that do. And and maybe maybe it is more worthwhile taking the losses that are in those funds and moving them over. I don't know.","start_word":2136,"end_word":2241,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08713489770889282},{"text":"Like but, you know, the fees kinda haven't yet overtaken.","start_word":2242,"end_word":2251,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3625485301017761},{"text":"Do you know what I mean?","start_word":2252,"end_word":2257,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.18917617201805115},{"text":"Like, our biggest concern in that first year, which was 2025, was that we were gonna have profits in our individual ones because that's where we moved all the funds across into the joint one.","start_word":2258,"end_word":2292,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3396444320678711},{"text":"And Yeah. then we would have losses that we couldn't actually so we've paid you know, we've now paid tax on these profits that we couldn't offset with the losses in Yeah. the joint one with, you know, with the setup and everything.","start_word":2293,"end_word":2335,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2733287513256073},{"text":"That's the painful part because it would be really ideal to even be able to offset like, let's say you were to sell that Harvey Bay property, being able to offset those gains with the losses from the shares would be really good, but I'm not actually certain whether you could actually get the shares across without crystallizing a CGT event.","start_word":2336,"end_word":2396,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.37398508191108704},{"text":"I'm not have you checked into that so far? Well, I don't know. No. We did ask we asked Carrie Ridgeland, but I'm not I'm not sure, like, while she can set up and do the accounting. I don't know that she's all over SMSF either. Yeah. So it yeah.","start_word":2397,"end_word":2446,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2129818350076675},{"text":"And and and probably the biggest concern is, yeah, you know, not being able to offset the the the losses from those other ones anywhere potentially. Like, I don't like, I'm not sure that we can if if we take a well, I guess if we take a loss with the I don't know. I don't know.","start_word":2447,"end_word":2503,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4252233923527232},{"text":"Well, instead of taking souls in the fact that while they're losing, they're still generating the dividends, which is catching up, and it's at the end. Without the gains they did in the first place, we wouldn't actually have the property. And it's it's sort of climbing at a rate now that's almost keeping pace with what we're losing on one side. Yeah. Yep. It's kind of it's gotten you that leg up into that next position, allow Yeah. you to borrow, get on to that next asset, and they're kind of offsetting each other just in terms of growth, I guess. Right? Yeah.","start_word":2504,"end_word":2607,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09582482278347015},{"text":"And I think that, what well, I guess the hope is that once all this tariff crap takes gets gets passed, we'll get back to some form of normality, and and a number of these shares will start to recover.","start_word":2608,"end_word":2647,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3361983001232147},{"text":"I think some will probably take it. Now they were never ever gonna get back because of what they are. They were never gonna go into, you know, positive net or anything. Yeah. But but a number of them well, there's still even a couple now that the net position is still in front even if you sold it off. Your net your net position is in front, but but you wouldn't sell them because of what they're generating in income. Yeah. So one thing that may be a bit of an accounting trick that I would want to look into for you guys is whether you can do an in specie transfer of your US stocks from one SMSF to the other where it can kind of be captured between trustee to trustee, and then you've got the ability to have that option to sell them and offset within that one if you want to. Yeah. So it's I think it's possible because the the last time I I tried doing this a few years ago, I had someone who was trying to get the shares into super. So once you have that change of beneficial ownership, you trigger your CGT event, you kind of upshits creek if you don't mind me saying. But Yes. if it's already in super, I have seen self funded super funds or even other platforms capture shares and in specie transfer them across. It just took a lot of paperwork to do the cost base to actually do that transfer. Yeah. Okay. So So I that's feel one as possibility though to try and get the three into the one.","start_word":2648,"end_word":2924,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07705873334343252},{"text":"I I would definitely investigate it.","start_word":2925,"end_word":2930,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3824151754379273},{"text":"yeah. I feel as though on that, and I'm sorry I didn't mention this sooner, but we will ask the question again. But I feel as though we did ask I at least asked steak. So mine my stuff's in steak. But I feel as though we I asked steak about it. It might be easier because his is with CMC and the and the joint ones are with CMC. But with Yeah. Stake, I think they said because it's not just going like, because it's not going from Natasha Wyatt to Natasha Wyatt. It's going to a joint one, although it really shouldn't matter to them because the accounting keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member. Team keeps it all separate anyway, you know, as a member. Correct. Because it's I will one member's ask the trustee question to again. another member's Yeah. trustee. Oh, sorry. What was that? Because it's it's under your name as a member. It's your asset. Yeah. So if you move your asset into an SMSF or change of trustees, let's say you own two super funds, you're essentially rolling over funds between one of your super funds to another. They are supposed to, with the accounting, keep your assets separate and accounted for underneath. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what's happened. So I feel as though states said no. The only way to do it was to sell them, but I'm gonna ask that question again. We might need specific wording. I I I feel like Terry did tell us. So is it in it's called an in a Yeah. specie Inspecie transfer? transfer. SP so is it all one word? Yeah. It's I n s p e c I e, Yep. in spaCy transfer. And it's also yeah. It's a bit more painful for the platform side of things because I used a lot of Macquarie for self managed super funds, and they're very good for those in spaCy transfers, and they they tend to use because it's a wrap platform.","start_word":2931,"end_word":3272,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0013044955023722342},{"text":"They were actually created to wrap people's individual assets together. So you were able to basically capture anything that they had on menu or available within the funds. So that's even switching to a platform might be possible where you could even set up, like, a platform account and potentially grab everything across from CMC or state as well.","start_word":3273,"end_word":3331,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4122515916824341},{"text":"Yeah. Because, really, you're right. It's just that's just the platform. They don't they're not we're not they don't own the shares. They're just the platform, aren't they? So And mine Yeah. is it's the same platform. So I think that's why Steve went with for the joint one. That's why Steve went with CNC, but our bank accounts are with inquiry for the joint one and for mine. Okay. So one of the things that may be worth doing is it's just an option is maybe a Macquarie rep account may be beneficial to kind of pull all of those assets together. The forms to to do those cost bases, they can take a little bit of time and accounting to do it, but it's an option there. If we wanna get it Yes. all into one and have this flexibility to offset the losses and gains, maybe worth just having a linked up Macquarie Bank account with a Macquarie investment account. You just be you have to be careful which one you pick because they've got three. One of them is very good for having lots of different individual holdings in terms of fakes, and some of the other ones are a bit more if you have one investment option. So it's just about getting the right one as well. Yeah. So and that would be most beneficial when we went to sell, for instance, property because we could offset we could also sell some shares, take the loss on the share, and then offset that against the capital gains on the property. Is is that what what we're suggesting? Yeah. The other Yeah. option Okay. is that if you wait until you hit your retirement phase and you sell them off with the sort of pension phase, you don't have to pay CGT there. It'll be tax free. But if you're kind of joint owning the asset, you'd both wanna be above 60 for that. Do it at the same time. Yeah. Which yep.","start_word":3332,"end_word":3668,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.15730504510310708},{"text":"We're good.","start_word":3669,"end_word":3670,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4559114873409271},{"text":"We got two year gap. That's right. Because, Yeah. Natasha, you're nineteen seventy, aren't you? Yes. Yeah. Yep. K. So it's one of those things about the short term strategy is either you hold on to it until you're both able to retire.","start_word":3671,"end_word":3713,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.16671793162822723},{"text":"And and, honestly, that that job that you're mentioning, to be able to tie over for an extra couple of years might be a bit of a blessing.","start_word":3714,"end_word":3741,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4274066090583801},{"text":"Because if you can just Yes. hold on to everything until you can both hit pension phase, You can just roll it all across, avoid the CGT issues. Hopefully, the stocks have bounced back by then, and then you can transition all these assets into a bit of a pension phase. Even if you change them then into something a bit safer to live off, you might be better off doing that, or the short term is trying to get all of this sold and moved around now. Yeah.","start_word":3742,"end_word":3830,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.021430907770991325},{"text":"That that's your thing I definitely don't wanna do because at the moment, even that takes away basically the income earning capacity of it.","start_word":3831,"end_word":3854,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4358469247817993},{"text":"Mhmm. Yeah. Yep. So Because you it would well, be you don't really have interesting the shoe. You don't have the cash to buy the shoes, so If you you can't can have potentially get them all together, then at least if it's all in the one SMSF, you can still hold on to all of them until pension phase Yeah. or decide to sell small amounts if you need to? Like, at least you can choose whether it's some, all partial, and and so on. What Yeah. do you think? Because the the second part of this strategy initially when the full all these terrible shit hit was once they started to generate the income that they were generating, a, we diversified into the property, but then the second phase was to transfer all the balance of the dividends into safer havens. So Yeah. the lowest shares, which is what my fund's been able to do a decent amount of or some of. Cash is not so much because we were originally trying to get the self net the the joint one back up to a fifty fifty split. So it was never gonna Yeah. be that. It's the income, like, as you said. And we're not sure. Last week. Payment.","start_word":3855,"end_word":4066,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.09971871216482713},{"text":"And we're not sure that that was a good in hindsight, we're not sure that was a good idea.","start_word":4067,"end_word":4085,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4526863992214203},{"text":"We probably should have just kept generating dividends or generating shares from the the dividends and and build it that way. So, like, Tash hasn't really invested in shares for some time. So it's like, the hits are being compounded. Yeah.","start_word":4086,"end_word":4126,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.268693745136261},{"text":"And mine, as I said, the last few months, I haven't either because all I keep doing is paying fucking tax.","start_word":4127,"end_word":4147,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4720970392227173},{"text":"Okay.","start_word":4148,"end_word":4148,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.27512621879577637},{"text":"Which that means nothing else I'd like to get away from because I already pay a shitload of tax early salary, so I'd really like to be able to not pay tax because not many other people seem to pay tax in this country.","start_word":4149,"end_word":4192,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4091244041919708},{"text":"Yeah.","start_word":4193,"end_word":4193,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.20176689326763153},{"text":"And that's the thing is once you get to that late fifties, high income earning, you're pretty much in the worst bracket for copying tax from all angles.","start_word":4194,"end_word":4221,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3743823766708374},{"text":"All of your Yeah. your hard earned assets, your your income level, everything cops it. You're in the kind It's of savings.","start_word":4222,"end_word":4243,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1529180109500885},{"text":"wrong end of town for the tax side, unfortunately. And and they just they're now putting interest on everything.","start_word":4244,"end_word":4262,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.45852160453796387},{"text":"Yeah. Absolutely. And the So only people obviously paying that are the ones who are actually paying keeping their tax bills so that they don't get rolled that way. So I'm and I'm thinking, well, I'm not sure how that works either. But yeah. You got anyway those people who have the businesses and things like that that have more tax breaks, or you've got people at the lower end of town who get all the concessions, and you're in yeah. that you know, So they call and you and the I the mega guess rich, but you're not, but they put you in that same no. category to copy you with the taxes. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's where I guess if this job comes off up north, then that's the other part is, you know, currently, we've managed on what my current salary is. If I jump up to potentially $1.75 and then it could go over 200 if the site manager role comes up as well, which it potentially would is is how do I what can I do to stay at that sort of $1.50 and put everything else into something that works for me? Yeah. I'm with you.","start_word":4263,"end_word":4464,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.010933843468970592},{"text":"And there, the most attractive thing is the super because Yeah. you'll be able to access it pretty soon if you needed to Yes.","start_word":4465,"end_word":4488,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.472650945186615},{"text":"even if you were doing a transition to retirement. So you can get a little bit extra in there, have the ability to draw a bit of it back out if you needed to. Yeah. And that's what I'm thinking. And then with that with that additional that goes through into it, then you, you know, we stick with those safer shares to build them up. So which is, Okay. you know because the the original plan was always these yield max ones were always gonna be you ride until death. Just let them keep generating income until they're basically dead. And Yep. then in that time frame, we should have had the other shares generating the replacement income in a safer environment.","start_word":4489,"end_word":4611,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.14708977937698364},{"text":"But, unfortunately, I we didn't factor in tariffs and wars and shit like that.","start_word":4612,"end_word":4625,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.492127537727356},{"text":"Yeah. It's that sequencing risk that happens at this age too where one of those global Yes. events happens and all of a sudden you're you're faced with, I guess, waiting a number of years for things to clear out. And the question is how long can you hold on for for it to recover and and get what you need. Yes.","start_word":4626,"end_word":4687,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1266577278128675},{"text":"Luckily, like you said, you got that property there, so at least there's some assets to draw from.","start_word":4688,"end_word":4705,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4416006803512573},{"text":"And the income And this property side when we sell because we'll go overseas. Once we're done, we're out of Australia. We're off overseas. So we'll sort of maintain one property, but the proceeds from well, at this stage, the second property will also go back into super and and offset that as well whereas which is why I'm sort of looking now at how many properties can we with the way the property market's gonna go in the next few years, my thoughts are if you can buy two or three now, you're not gonna lose.","start_word":4706,"end_word":4802,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2402529418468475},{"text":"Yeah. It'd be nice to have the full value of the shares that you had just to borrow off of those in the SMSFs.","start_word":4803,"end_word":4826,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4761345684528351},{"text":"Yes. Yes. Well, the only upset, I guess, is that is the property itself that has the shares attached to it, which is the one we would buy off. It's gone up considerably, hopefully. Yeah. Yep.","start_word":4827,"end_word":4862,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0855819508433342},{"text":"Absolutely. And like you said, if it's sitting at $8.50, it's pretty good.","start_word":4863,"end_word":4875,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4848962724208832},{"text":"And then you've got the increase in the other one. It's not looking too bad. So let me ask you guys this then. When it comes to the self funded super funds, do you want me to investigate a way to kind of tie it together and see what the options are there, at least so you can know with some certainty? I think so. I think, Yeah. yeah, if we can do something without selling selling shares that we're gonna take a big loss on and then obviously not generate income on them either, then definitely because then we the bare minimum we save Yeah. And the comp just even the complexity around working out which bloody super fund we've paid what for or low Yes. Yeah. Would would Yeah. be The a benefit. auditing fees, tax returns, which Yeah. parcels Late have fees gone because into you what. thought you'd pay this, but you'd pay that instead. Yes. So yeah. So it Yeah.","start_word":4876,"end_word":5040,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0042373719625175},{"text":"Definitely with regards to bringing everything together, that would be that would be great if if that's a possibility, For Yeah.","start_word":5041,"end_word":5061,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4301530718803406},{"text":"So that'll be my main thing then is I'll investigate that for you guys. If there's something where it's just a real simple yes or no, I'll let you know straight away. sure. Yep. If there's a way that we can kind of do an overall tightening and cleanup as you lead into retirement, then we'll kind of proceed through the advice process and and go through that route, and I'll just kind of help pull it all together for you guys.","start_word":5062,"end_word":5143,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.23077617585659027},{"text":"So you seem pretty confident in your investing side of things.","start_word":5144,"end_word":5154,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5794779658317566},{"text":"Do you want any suggestions on investment options, or you really just wanna simplify the structure? Depends. I'm sort of open to it because I don't know. There's certainly a lot I don't know as as well. Trying to learn it. But, yeah, I mean, I had a very clear strategy to get so what originally kicked it off, Tommy, was that I hit 53, looked at my super night, at that stage, $200 and an army super that was worth bugger all that I Yeah.","start_word":5155,"end_word":5240,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0464344285428524},{"text":"couldn't do anything with, you know, when I can't retire at all at this rate.","start_word":5241,"end_word":5255,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4269065260887146},{"text":"And so that's where we've sort of turned it around and got the investment, got the income coming in, which, you know, at this stage, the income is still continuing to come in at $600 a month, well, just for my side of it. Not so much for mine. Cash is not quite as much. But Yeah. also we've got, you know, 1,200 a month coming into the other fund as well. So, you know, all that we've still got, like, $10 or 8 to $10 coming in a month. It's just in dividends at this stage. But yeah. So there's definitely room to tighten tighten that and look for other options where because we've got a property. We've got chairs. So if there's other things that we could potentially I mean, I would like to have gold, but it is a bit expensive at the moment. Yeah. And that's the type of things that I was sort of leaning towards is Yeah. as you as you enter into that transition to retirement age bracket, do you wanna put together some sort of a little bit more conservative portfolio where you just diversify a bit, have a bit of metals in there, a bit of gold and silver, a bit of high interest, fixed interest options there too? Because, like, as an example, if you were to utilize a a wrap platform like Macquarie to hold the shares, you then got access to all those managed funds and ETFs as well. And if you wanted to put a bit into gold, I've been into some high high yielding fixed interest where you're getting 6% somewhat guaranteed, you can kind of just fix up your asset allocation a little bit as well. Yeah. Potentially, see, the original plan as well was well, part of it was with the cell with the house. It was always gonna only be one. And then once it started, like, at the moment, we've put in aircon and we've in the last twelve months, we've paid a fair bit. We're about to put solar on at about $10. Yeah. Right. And then once once although we haven't heard back from them yet, once we've done all that, then my plan for that was just to sit once then once I've covered well and truly covered off the share side of it with the extra money coming in to cover all loans and all fees and stuff, it was just gonna sit and accumulate cash because we still Right. get 5.5% cash on that account. That's what you thought. Yeah. But, yeah, like, to have an idea of But, yeah, potentially, it's yeah. If something really good came up, then then we'd definitely be interested in looking at that. But, yeah, I've kind of got the strategy. It's just we've it's taken a bit of a hit that we and, like, the other side of it is we've actually started the best diversifying into looking at at other alternative income streams like online stuff to offset incomes as well just in case. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. When I say that, though, we certainly don't need to include any of that income into a plan at this stage. No. No. We've I understand. been money, I think. We've sold we had sold a T shirt, Congratulations. which generated about which generated about $7 of US income, and we've spent probably $4 of Australian air allowance. There you go. A bit of a side hustle going on.","start_word":5256,"end_word":5845,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08464777701755323},{"text":"That's fantastic. Yeah. Getting together quite another little collection of toys. Yes. We've got a lot of toys, so they'll well, they're doing it today. They'll generate cash. I've got a lot of money.","start_word":5846,"end_word":5879,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4498445689678192},{"text":"So so Oh, we've look. got I'm not gonna lie.","start_word":5880,"end_word":5889,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.11612126976251602},{"text":"This is one of the most exotic setups I've ever seen when it comes to retirement planning, so I love it. I'm here for it.","start_word":5890,"end_word":5914,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5502499938011169},{"text":"Alright. Well, see, my whole career has been planning. So Yeah. that's basically yeah. And then, yeah, as I said, the only thing I didn't plan for was Trump is the best to pay, and There's nothing. So trying to secure oil for himself. Yeah. That too. Absolutely. So what I'll do is just to keep it nice and easy for you guys, Tash, if you're comfortable to reach out to to stake and see if you can do that in specie transfer, that kind of that'll help because that simplifies everything. I'll investigate on the Macquarie side and see if you need to use a platform for it. And then, like, if you if you can do it with your your current platforms and even if CMC would offer taking over those, like, if they will let you do it and bring it across, that might be good too. So if you guys can investigate that side, Yep. I'll contact the Macquarie BDMs and figure out a few options for you as a bit of a plan b. How's that sound?","start_word":5915,"end_word":6096,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.13772103190422058},{"text":"Sounds good.","start_word":6097,"end_word":6098,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4539472460746765},{"text":"Yep.","start_word":6099,"end_word":6099,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.245711013674736},{"text":"Awesome. Thanks. The Cool.","start_word":6100,"end_word":6103,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.49673739075660706},{"text":"the other question So we had Yeah. Go for it. is is if is if this job doesn't come up or doesn't come to fruition, and then I do go through the redundancy phase, our our thoughts at this stage were that we've got cash some cash sitting in the bank. Not a whole lot. Not yeah. But it's not a whole lot of redundancy either. No. But I put just before June, we transfer the cash that we've got in the bank into my super and then get the tax benefit from that, hopefully, you know, the other side of it. And then when I get the redundancy put the redundancy money back onto the home loan. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Would that but I know that, you know, for the actual redundancy amount, I don't pay tax. And I'm we're thinking that we'd pay 15% on the way in, but I would say, I don't know, 27% or whatever the hell it is on a 150 k salary Yeah. Yeah. on the other side. So it would still be would it it would still be beneficial to do that on I'm we're thinking, but we're not a 100% sure. Yeah. I can see what you mean. It's a bit of a split where the redundancy picks you up quite high, but only that baseline is copying the tax, but you're still in that bracket anyway. Yeah. Okay. What I might do then just to take a quick step back is let me just go through a couple of details with you guys, and that way I can I've got a clear picture in my mind. So, Steve, what's the current salary? So it's about the $1.50 mark at the moment. Yeah. I'll take it $1.48 something plus a short term bonus, which I should get still this year in September. Last year, Yep. I got the I think it was $16, and it ended up being about 8 in the hand. Okay. And that's net of stickers. So the sticker's on top of the salary that he just quoted you. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. So Okay, all that, my sir. package is one sixty six, I think. That $1.66 is a package. And this other job that you're looking at is possibly starting you off as a manufacturing manager at $1.75? Yeah. I told them I'd want $1.75 to $1.85. K. And the site lady you think could go upwards of 200? Yeah. I'm thinking probably sort of in that circa 02/10 to 02/20 mark.","start_word":6104,"end_word":6529,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.004339032235857047},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":6530,"end_word":6530,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5062068700790405},{"text":"K. When will you find out about the redundancies, Steve? Well, the the application's closed on the April 19. I have been told, which my HR partner who's just left, she's just made took a redundancy, that I've definitely got an interview. So what Okay. he probably didn't didn't make clear, I don't know if he did, is that the role that he the role of the lander is with the same company. So Yes. So he's not. So that's one or the other. He either gets so up until Monday, we were planning that he was gonna get the redundancy and still looking for other work. But now he may not get the redundancy if he takes the job at Melanda because it's the same entity. Yeah. Absolutely. And so is Melinda the employer? No. Vega. Vega. Yep. As in bigger stringers? Cheese? Yeah. Bigger bigger cheese or bigger root. Yep. Vega peanuts out here? Well, yeah, which is which is which is now now that seem to be not bigger peanuts. Perfect. Perfect. What about your side of things, Tash? How much has has Luke got you on? I'm I'm not sure Not what your enough. specific role and income is Not at the moment. not I won't enough I won't telling. bring you into the conversation, but I can see, unfortunately. I think I'm on about 95. I know I am on 95 plus super at the moment. of course, he's got you under 6 figures. No worries. Fair enough. 95 there. And you're doing, like, the the credit analyst side of things or No. No. I'm I do the bookkeeping and accounting side. bookkeeping and accounting. That's it. Yeah. Bookkeeping Yeah. and accounting. What about okay. So in terms of, like, goals for you guys, you've got a lot of different assets with the the house and the shares generating income sort of things. When you go overseas, you sell off and you move overseas, what what country are you guys going to? At this stage, the the plan is to do, like, sort of up to nine months in Southeast Asia. Yeah. So so far, we've been to Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, and then a couple of few months in Europe. And some of that also depends, Tommy, on whether I'm ready to retire. Yes. Yeah. If not, because we've got some of the girls in The Philippines, there has been, you know, hints of me working over there, which would put us in The Philippines. And I'm fully Yeah.","start_word":6531,"end_word":6954,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.02740755294150901},{"text":"supportive of that. He's happy he's happy to be kept. Perfect.","start_word":6955,"end_word":6965,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6096928119659424},{"text":"But Okay. yeah. But, like, if I'm not because initially when we were talking about Steve wanting to retire at 60, and I'm like, I I don't feel ready yet. Yeah. You might So do a bit of a partial retirement for a while. yeah. So is it you know, so if if it was that I was gonna be working for for BE still and they would be happy for me to work out of The Philippines, then that would potentially be our starting place. Yes. Wow. That'd be fun. Yes. I think it'd be good. It's well, I've seen you as That's a pain. kind of working from home enhanced. It's just, you know, overseas working holiday almost. I suppose that would be alright, wouldn't it? And, like, I would Cool. still do the YouTube channel and the websites and stuff that we're doing. So we'd still do a lot. I think Yeah. Luke's on board with that with it, but I don't know about Steve O. Steve is old I school, mean, I guess. yeah. I mean, he Steve O wasn't overly happy for people to work from home at all Yeah. until I moved out here. And then there's another guy in finance that's actually working from I I don't know.","start_word":6966,"end_word":7180,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06263098120689392},{"text":"I always get it wrong.","start_word":7181,"end_word":7185,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4265751838684082},{"text":"Serbia or Croatia or something at the moment. Yeah. That's Do crazy. you know Ollie? I was actually yeah. Ollie helped me do my refinance just Oh, recently. it's okay. Yeah. So where so where is he? I always get it wrong. I always get the I plates think wrong. he might be Croatian, similar to to my family, I think. Okay. Yeah. Because it's bad mixing up the Croatians in the Serbian. Yeah. Oh, We're yeah. not I supposed cop it to all mix. the time. People all the time saying, are you Serbian? I was like, you can't say that. That just Yes. starts to fight and a brawl at the soccer match with some flares and things like that. It's like we we just woke up one morning and went to bloody war. Pretty much. Pretty I was much. trying to learn some greeting when I was in the office and when I was still in on the coast and even when I go into visit, I was trying to learn some greetings. But now I've got out with Ollie. Like, I was just doing, like, a different greeting for each of the different people people from different areas. Yeah. I'm just trying to think what it was. What is it? As in, like, sort of like a yep. Yeah.","start_word":7186,"end_word":7408,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.09278643876314165},{"text":"Good Is day.","start_word":7409,"end_word":7411,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3749864995479584},{"text":"that Kind yeah. of What thing. was Yep. it? Is that it? Absolutely. I'm sorry. So Anyway, I'm just trying to just, you know Obviously, Tommy, you've been over that way. Visit it with potentially a family. Have you been to Montenegro? No. I am still I decided to have a few kids instead, so I'm still planning Okay. my trip to Bad idea. Croatia with the family. Yeah. So it's kind of delayed things for a few years, so that's next on Okay. my bucket list is to go over there and see the family. Okay. Because, yeah, Montana goes away on my to do list. Okay.","start_word":7412,"end_word":7519,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03815972059965134},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":7520,"end_word":7520,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5117143392562866},{"text":"It's really Definitely puts a lot of plans in So what I might do too, I just wanted to ask you guys, like, in terms of obviously, even if you're doing a bit of work from mind. The Philippines, have you got a figure of, like, the yearly income you're gonna wanna have when you finally kind of both hang up the boots? Well No. No. I mean, when it all first kicked off and it was my dividends were generating around $14, I mean, we thought, well, that we didn't really give it much more thought up. Right? Because that was more than that was about $6 more than I was taking home here. Yeah. I guess well, the aim of The Philippines is that you can live I guess if we were earning between us sort of somewhere between 7 and 10 and we stayed in the stayed overseas for quite some time, that would that would suffice because the aim of part of the aim of being overseas is that if you live pretty well to, you know, two to four Australian, we would still have three to four that we kept putting back into our super or or sitting as cash, and that was always the plan. I guess it's that by going overseas, we could live on probably half of what our dividend income was and then continue to save, which technically Yeah. we Right. still currently could do. So So technically, for them for now. 7,000 to 10,000 a month combined from the super and maybe a bit of part time work and some side hustles, and you guys should be okay. Yeah. I think it's me. Well, you I'm sorry. The side hustle actually paid off for all the. There's more Who knows? side It than might hustle. come in in the right time. What's that? Might come in at the right time. It may just sort of kick off right when you need it. Who knows? Hopefully. Well, that's why it's part of why we're starting now, I suppose, is, you know, get it now while we're able or while we can afford to take the losses and Yeah.","start_word":7521,"end_word":7887,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.10218412429094316},{"text":"buying all these bloody AI tools and crap.","start_word":7888,"end_word":7895,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.6833330392837524},{"text":"And And what did you say, Steve? It's more size than hustle at the moment. yeah. There's not a lot of hassle. The other way. Not yet. Is it more hassle than size? And I hope you have enough.","start_word":7896,"end_word":7934,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.014770543728119288},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":7935,"end_word":7935,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.380753755569458},{"text":"But Guys, do we I might have just a T shirt for you? a t shirt or will I get a photo of this, or do I get a few different choices? Well, we've got I've got a I'll we should send you a photo, one that we just developed that but you can't we chose still Taser's still working on getting into Australia because we can only The US is so much cheaper.","start_word":7936,"end_word":8009,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03032272681593895},{"text":"But I've got a I bought a shirt that says bad decision, make good stories.","start_word":8010,"end_word":8024,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3506743609905243},{"text":"And we've upgraded it and put our own spin on it. And, like, when I was in the state, because I was just I've just come back from Vegas. And then when I was in the airports on the way out of Vegas and out of LA, I reckon four at least four people commented on how they like the shirt. Yeah. So we've got we've got we've got a couple of them. I've got a couple more designs, but one of them is a little bit less a little bit less sensitive. So when I'm going into, like, the Delta One lounges and stuff, I choose not to wear it, and Tash probably don't wanna see it. It doesn't wanna be with.","start_word":8025,"end_word":8147,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.07453759759664536},{"text":"I've got another one that I really like that says fuck your feelings.","start_word":8148,"end_word":8160,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5466976165771484},{"text":"You know what you should do, if you could for me, is part of the process is we do certified ID, and Okay. we usually get the clients to take a photo, bit of a selfie with the license there as well. If you can wear one Mhmm. of those shirts when you do it, I'd appreciate that. Yep. We can do we can do that.","start_word":8161,"end_word":8226,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.016744283959269524},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":8227,"end_word":8227,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.39761924743652344},{"text":"Yeah. Because Perfect. we have So we've been buying a couple of samples to see how the print is sent out on them and and see what the actual blanks are like in the wash and all that sort of stuff, but we haven't actually got heaps of them yet. Yeah. But Test yeah. them out a little bit, see how they go in the wash. I'm also trying to get them I got a mate group that I'm trying to get. Once we can get them into Australia at a, you know, at a reasonable price, I'm I'm thinking my mate group will buy the ones along those lines as well. So Yeah. Can't see why not. If they're the mates. Absolutely. but, yeah, Steve. they're they're not too bad. So we'll we'll see how that goes. And between that, the shirts, and then all the other stuff we're doing, we've got a couple of YouTube channels kicking off and, you know, obviously, got a bit of work to do because we're old and and we've gotta learn all this stuff, but Not we're on getting TikTok, it. are you? Yeah. I've got three TikTok bloody TikTok and YouTube. channels going. Oh, Yeah. wow. I've got we got armchair. So if you look for Armchair Amigos Yeah. Yeah. or Armchair Traders, And then I've just kicked off a new YouTube channel that's only got one video on it at the moment. And, again, it's saying for older people, but it's called Longevity Labs AU. Gotcha. So I've started to delve into, like, MNN and and and a few other bits and pieces like that and and sleep patterns and creatine and things like that to for as you get older.","start_word":8228,"end_word":8518,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.08658995102975786},{"text":"Oh, awesome.","start_word":8519,"end_word":8520,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4334642291069031},{"text":"Yeah. I found the armchair amigos travel gurus. I'll have a little bit of a look at That's that when I get us. home. Absolutely. That's scary. Subscribe and like, mate. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe. Don't worry. Hit the bell. Good So good to watch if you're having trouble getting to sleep at this stage.","start_word":8521,"end_word":8578,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09643759578466415},{"text":"fantastic. So I've got a baby on the way into the lullabies.","start_word":8579,"end_word":8590,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4468472003936768},{"text":"And I fully Yeah. understand what they're talking about.","start_word":8591,"end_word":8599,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05973131954669952},{"text":"Do you look back and sort of cringe a little bit, do you?","start_word":8600,"end_word":8612,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3334786593914032},{"text":"Oh, and look, we know that they could use that they could be better. We just don't know how to make them better yet. I guess it's all just trial and error. Right? Similar with the shirts. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Same thing. It's like you, you know, you start a job or whatever, a career, and you don't know much, and then you you persevere and learn. So Actually, speaking of careers, I forgot to ask you before. For Vega, what's your your current role, Steve? currently, I'm supply chain manager. Supply chain manager. That's right. Yep. I've got the the next roles, but Scott actually asked you that one. But in in the past, I've done, like, a host of supply chain production, process improvement, production planning, had my own business, been a personal trainer, taught personal training, You're on. worked on mine sites, worked on Southmore Island, Army, did five and a half years in the army. Been everywhere. Just like that TV Yeah. But certainly, up the East Coast Of Australia, I have there's not too many places I haven't been. Fair enough. Fair enough. Guys, I'm just gonna grab a couple more details before I let you dart off for Ace of there. Two. Would you be okay to I'll I'll do that investigation with Macquarie first, but would you be okay to send through some of the, like, the trust deeds and company constitutions for the SMSF at some point as well? Yep. It's one for all three or just join? Well, it'll have to be for all three because if I'm gonna advise Okay. a possible three to one kind of cleanup, I I just wanna make sure I can identify all the funds and everything, Trustees, Yep. trust Yep. owners, members, and so on. And maybe a couple of statements would be good too, but that may just take us a bit of time. I'll do the investigations and research first, but that will be needed before the end as well. Yep. Okay. Do you so is it is it just do you wanna send us an email of what you need from us, or do you just want us to take a note now? Trustees Oh, no. and I'll statements. send you Trustees. it. No. So we trustees and statements would be good and company constitutions, but I'll send through just a reminder email next week as well just as a refresher. Okay. Yeah. And are we sending that to you or to what was the lady's name? Just just one? Just one? To Yeah. with Because Jordan? Bernadine was is bigger. Sorry. Who who was the no. So, Who was the lady that sent us the in the yeah, invite you would have got to that from Jordan. the Jordan. Sorry. What I'll do is I'll send you through you would have received our financial services guide Yep. from hopefully, it should have been our research or info email, and anything that you send through today kind of automatically tags to your client profile. So best to keep it central there rather than if you send it to me directly and I'm away, the team won't have access to that until I'm there, if that makes sense. Yep. Okay. Alright. Indeed. Cool. So info at. Yep. We were talking about potentially looking at the whole end of financial year contributions down the line, but you're not currently doing any extras at the moment, Salary sacrifice or anything? No. Perfect. I'm assuming you both haven't gone through any bankruptcy or debt agreements before? No. I a few years back, quite a few now, when the kids were little, I did go through it wasn't bankruptcy, but I I went with Christians Against Poverty. They helped me to sort of minimize like, do a budget minimize. It was when the kids were little and I was on my own and helped me to to minimize some of the debt that I had as well as paying some of it off. Does that Gotcha. So it's not like a formal part nine debt agreement. It was just kind of some some assistance there on the budgeting side. Correct. They didn't And take and over then the they debt yet. negotiated with, you know, Westpac. I think I had a credit card with them, but and things like that. It's supposed to it wasn't supposed to ever affect your credit rating, which I believe it hasn't. I don't know. Yep.","start_word":8613,"end_word":9367,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0046578511312011855},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":9368,"end_word":9368,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5052326917648315},{"text":"Yep. No. We we both got loans and stuff for all these. Can you guys So just I quickly think run Yeah. me I through don't is the that why you were asking no, Tommy? Was it for for that sort of info? Like, yeah. Yeah. It's all just kind of security in the back end, and it does impact loans, of course, which you guys would know very much about. But it's just one of those little checks that we do as well. That and another very strange question, which you may not get often, but are you guys a No. member of any No. foreign tax residency? No. Probably down the line once you go to The Philippines, but not right now, which is good. Yeah. And last couple of questions I've got for you guys And is just on the, like, the health and insurance side of things. Have you got insurances attached through the SMSF? Did you cancel them all when you set it up? Or the only one's got through work. So we've got health insurance, but that that's not you're talking about life and income protection, aren't you? Yeah. I Life don't think TPD we've got either income of protection. those. K. Yeah. I don't I don't think we've got And I need it for for at the start, but I don't know. And whatever Steve's got then. Yeah. I just Now use that's my work one. that's up to you guys, but, obviously, Yep. at your ages, trying to obtain some life insurance at this point would be quite expensive. Do you want me to look into that or just keep this strictly to the Yeah. SMSF? Well, I don't have kids. So, basically, for me, everything goes to Tash anyway. So, well, Yeah. we'll actually, people get our wheels done. Do is get our wheels done. That's probably more important. So neither That was of my us next have got, question. Yeah. yeah, So no like, insurances, dependent but the now? estates. Do you Yes. have what what's the family structure like then? You've got Tash, you've got a few adult children now? Or Yeah. I've got three adult children. yep. They live on the coast.","start_word":9369,"end_word":9742,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04833079764948172},{"text":"Fantastic.","start_word":9743,"end_word":9743,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5395975112915039},{"text":"And, Steve, do you have any? No. Nope. K. I've got the cat and the dog, which is what my superfund is all structured around. Or The named beneficiary around. to the Named cat and around. the dog. Yeah.","start_word":9744,"end_word":9782,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03463977575302124},{"text":"Oh, I can't wait to see that. That'll be fantastic. I know I did an Optimus Prime transformers super fun for somebody a few years back.","start_word":9783,"end_word":9808,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4499328136444092},{"text":"Okay. Yeah. Creative names. So Well, we've we've got got the I've got the no brainer Marcel because that's the cat's name, and he's the boss. And I've got the Indian Marcel Superfund, but Okay. then our joint our joint fund is much better. And what's that one? It's the Tony and Ezekiel. Have you seen the YouTube video Oh, not the way. of what's your This name? is the one I'm thinking of. Yep. What's your name? Says fuck And you, they're Tony. yelling at Fuck each other you, across Ezekiel. the Yes. yep. Yep. Yeah. What's Yes. your So name? we've got Tony and Ezekiel super punch because and Oh, and it's no Foxconn way. uniform, which was the Yeah. But we had to have I think Steve and Pat, we we just have Foxtrot Uniform as trustee for the Titanium Physiology Superfund. We had to I think it had to be Steve and Tash or something. Foxtrot uniform, which took a bit of polish off it, but, you know, sentiment's still the same. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Any problem Okay. when the accountant sends us letters, they keep they keep addressing it to Tony.","start_word":9809,"end_word":10004,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.04124483838677406},{"text":"It's like there's no Tony here.","start_word":10005,"end_word":10010,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.33604273200035095},{"text":"It's just the name No.","start_word":10011,"end_word":10015,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.20292356610298157},{"text":"on That's the not even fund.","start_word":10016,"end_word":10021,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3736604452133178},{"text":"a member or a director or anything. It's no one Yes. in oh, that's funny. Yep. Okay. So the cell phone and super fund details we'll get just quickly on the estate planning side of things. So are you guys gonna go obviously, a will is a must. You're gonna set up a bit of a power of attorney as well, maybe a testamentary trust will, something like that, if you consider those. We have no idea what it is. Oh, yeah. The old maybe that's that was that was the first thing I might wish to do. We we keep We lost we lost if it set up a bill. Yep. It's So a bit black. the I know. the quick reminder and refresher is that your power of attorney is when you're still here. And if Yep. you're in hospital, it means it's much easier for someone to in Queensland, it incorporates, like, the the health and financial side. So someone Okay. to use the bank accounts, talk to the doctors without having to go to, you know, the courts for probate and everything. So that's even the $25 power of attorney kit from the post office is something. But, of course, you can talk to the public trustee or a solicitor, whichever way you guys wanna go. The only reason why I mentioned testamentary trust, Will, is because you've got the adult children as well. You can be a bit more specific in, you know, trust gets created when you pass away, and you can be a bit more specific in how that gets distributed across everybody. Unless you Well, all just wanted to go to Steve, but allows for a bit more filtering down as well. my manager's talking about that, actually, and we wanna we do wanna set it up so that that somehow So that we don't know. We don't have to sell the properties prematurely upon the other one's death, Yeah. but that once there's a once the time comes to sell the properties That Cash's kids get a portion of it. Yeah. That it can be you know, if that's possible. Well, that's probably something we need to speak to a solicitor about, isn't it? Yeah. That's kind Is of that why you do those sets of structures because what it does is, like, it does the same thing as if you had a trust or a family trust set up now is when you pass away, it can move the asset into a trust that gets created.","start_word":10022,"end_word":10447,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07354971031907578},{"text":"And then you've got all that flexibility to hold on to the assets, distribute that income, allow them to access some or all of it at different ages and things like that so you can be a little bit more future planning with it. So, yeah, absolutely talk to a solicitor about that.","start_word":10448,"end_word":10500,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3469983637332916},{"text":"Yeah. And is that is that trust structure? I I sort of have seen a few things coming through on Instagram about how if you I I don't know if this is correct, but if you don't have the trust structure that there's more tax involved. Is is that is that the structure that kind of avoids that death tax? The yeah. The death tax? Yeah. It's it's trying to avoid that, and Yeah. it does avoid little things like stamp not stamp duty, Medicare levy on, like, super death benefits and things like that. Yeah. Because, obviously, when it comes to the super side of things, if you leave it to a spouse, they're considered tax dependent, so it's tax free. If you leave it to an adult child, they are a valid beneficiary, but not a tax beneficiary. Right. So that's where So, they could cop tax on it that's unnecessary. yeah, so certain things that we do for people who are, like, 65 or retired before 65 is they Yep. pull money out of super and put it back in again as non concessional and just kind of try and rinse as much of it as they can into their tax free portion. Because Yeah. you pull that I tax heard free, about that you get it too. back in. So Okay. recontributions are an option, especially once you start ceasing employment arrangements and things like that after 60. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's all stuff we need to be aware of and plan for at the time or closer to the time. Because I think you have Yes. to pull a certain amount out each year or something, don't you? And then but then you can, yeah, put it back in. Yeah. Because the the caps, you can do that, like, the bring forward rule and everything. You could do essentially 360,000 back in. Plus if you time it around the end of financial year, another 120,000 in that each. So Yep. the minimums, Okay. it's four to 5% minimum out. But, again, once you've retired, you can pull out big lump sum, put it back in again. You can do all kinds of things. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna guess they're all things that, yeah, potentially we and I guess as as we've sort of alluded, some of it, it just depends on which way it goes as to what we do next with with where we're headed.","start_word":10501,"end_word":10912,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.024772051106957557},{"text":"But I do like the idea of taking this manufacturing role and staying on for another probably three or four years and just really consolidating everything So we're in Yeah. a good in a good spot to pull the pin in a and hence why I wanna look at potentially, you know, buying using this close to get another couple of houses.","start_word":10913,"end_word":10974,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4297726452350617},{"text":"Yeah. Just have them all prepared there, and it's one Yep. of those things too. Like, transitioning, like, SMSF into pension phase is one thing. Trying to transition three of them into pension phase can be quite painful. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. We definitely wanna get them. Yeah. That would be really cool if we could roll them all in together. Yeah. Yeah. And still try and keep all the accounting separate and everything. So I think that'll be the main thing that I'll try and help with is just restructure those a little bit. Mhmm. And then Mhmm. you've got already, you've got three or four different options and plans a, b, c, and d. And then you will find over the next few years which one becomes right If you take this new role and then things pick up with the stocks, then that kind Yep. of illuminates for you. And Yes. if not, Yeah. then you've got those options to sell the the property and the shares and offset each other. If not, borrow off of them and buy the next one. There's there's a few options there. We just need to get you in that cleanup. Yep. Mm-mm. Yep. Okay. Yeah. For sure. Sounds I think last thing I'm just gonna grab from you guys as well is just around the personal assets.","start_word":10975,"end_word":11201,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.05694425466269386},{"text":"good. We have all the SMS upside.","start_word":11202,"end_word":11208,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4378411471843719},{"text":"You mentioned you had a little bit in savings at the moment. Can I just take down a bit of an estimate, please? It's I had a look before. It's a signal about 25 k at the moment. Yep. And that's sitting in offset? Yes. Email Mortgage account. No. No. Said account, but it's doing the same thing. Yep. Yep. K. And did you say you had two properties personally? No. Just the one Just the one, and and the that's and the one the that you're trying to sell for the around about 200,000 profit area. yeah. Yep. Can I just quickly grab the value and amount selling for that one? So, currently, we think it's worth around $3.53 60, and it's it owes well, with the 25 sitting in there, we owe a 150. Yep. 150 after the cash. And are there any other assets or liabilities loans floating around? Well, I'll get I'll get the bonus within this year. I've got also got a lease card that in twelve months leases up. So I either keep it for another two years potentially or sell it off, and then it'll I should generate about $20 from selling it. Credit cards would be fine. Well, they're all negligible now. Okay? They're getting close. Yeah. Personal loan's Yeah. down to about 6, but it's offsetting my my personal shares. So the So it's the interest six on that the I personal call it. loan. Yep. I've got about four and a half in one savings just just in basic just a little basic sort of I accumulate money there, and then I push it over when once I know that my bills are covered for the period or whatever. I push it Yep. over into the mortgage account. And I'm just back from Vegas, so I've got about three. Yep.","start_word":11209,"end_word":11518,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04849654705293717},{"text":"Perfect.","start_word":11519,"end_word":11519,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5597637891769409},{"text":"But I've also got we've also got other shares, personal shares, and crypto and shit, which, you know, everything's but at the moment, none of them are very pretty either. Yeah. Oh, Right. Are we talking yeah. Customer's. five, ten, 20? I've got about 30. I think mine's about 10 or was 10. It's now so I know. It's not much. It's very little bit. Hold on. I'll just that's a little bit me. So, Steve, you're 30. Is that the split between crypto and shares, or is it just the Yes. shares? That's no. That's a split between the two now. That's Yep. I'll just go into so my my personal is sitting at about three, four at the minute. So it was probably, you know, seven to ten pre at all dropping. Yep. I'm sorry. I'm And that's just having the trouble. shares. It's not playing now. Tommy, No. That's I've okay. got so I'm sorry we've kept you over past six. I've got someone here picking me up. That is okay. I pretty much have everything I need, to be honest. Alright, guys. Nice Well, what to meet I'll you, do Tommy. I'll talk to you soon, or we'll send you the details. Yeah.","start_word":11520,"end_word":11726,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.041689615696668625},{"text":"Absolutely, Josh. Have a great Easter, man.","start_word":11727,"end_word":11733,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4995582103729248},{"text":"Yeah. Yeah. Alright. But yeah. Steve. So that's Bye. I think and then, yeah, then that's pretty much it for all that sort of stuff.","start_word":11734,"end_word":11758,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09965837746858595},{"text":"Perfect. Perfect.","start_word":11759,"end_word":11760,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4443076550960541},{"text":"The only last thing I didn't capture before, Tash Wren, was just her car value. It's about six weeks. We've heard we've done because we don't use it much out here. We've got the my car, and then we just got a little a uke, a Commodore uke that we I run around to work in. Yep. So six for Tasha's car. You've got your leased car, and then you've got a Yoot as well? No. No. Just a lease car. Yep.","start_word":11761,"end_word":11842,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.015285751941363983},{"text":"Perfect. And it's Alrighty.","start_word":11843,"end_word":11846,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4648847281932831},{"text":"a Subaru XV, so it's probably worth about $30.35. Do you reckon you're clear about 20 if you sold Yeah. it in Once a year? once I've I gotta pay $11.03 at the June next year. So the thing and I think I should be able to sell it for 30. It's actually it's only got 60 odd thousand k's on it. So Yeah. Okay. Not bad. So I think I've got all the assets, liabilities. We've got all of that information, estate planning sorted. That's pretty much it, mate. I've we've talked about quite a few different things. Any thoughts so far, Steve, before I let you go? Yeah. I guess it'd be good once we know that the like, my my hopes are that as I said, initially, we were heavily into the redundancy phase and looking at that. And at at one stage, we even looked at, you know, many not working for a while and trying to build the side hustles.","start_word":11847,"end_word":12011,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0733192190527916},{"text":"But because of the length of slowness that they have, we thought, yeah, that's possibly not a good idea.","start_word":12012,"end_word":12030,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.44346824288368225},{"text":"And because we just predominantly didn't initially wanna move down south because it would you know, I'd have to earn considerably more to stay where we're at. Our mortgage is about 1,100. So but moving Yeah. north would work first because we would buy and we didn't wanna buy because we only wanted, you know, a couple more years. But with recent events, I I think we're sort of looking at options and just looking to show make sure we make sure everything that we're doing because not a lot of people have done this before from what we can see. Like, my all means was a surveyor. He's retired. But, you know, he's got your traditional Aussie shares, you know, BHP and National Bank and all that. And that's what we started with, but it was just gonna be too slow. You know, we'd be working towards 70 five to generate enough income from them to pull the pin. So this is sort of fast tracked to the housing and stuff like that. So now it's just Yeah.","start_word":12031,"end_word":12209,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.03286446468623657},{"text":"storing up to make sure that, you know, we do have enough decent shares that generate income to live off so we're not eating into the capital.","start_word":12210,"end_word":12236,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.35953816771507263},{"text":"Because that was always the aim, to not have to draw down on the capital, like, sell shares Yeah. to to have income for each year, because then you're obviously limited you know, how many shares how long you can live.","start_word":12237,"end_word":12277,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24103336036205292},{"text":"Whereas our aim was always to have the dividends generating.","start_word":12278,"end_word":12287,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3877507150173187},{"text":"And then as you back up, you then have to start to sell off shares. Yeah. As a kind of last resort, but it will keep you going Yeah. for most of the years. Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. So what I need to do as well is I'll do that investigation first around whether we can clean up and restructure the SMSFs a little bit before Yep. we go too far down the process. If it is promising, one thing I might do because like I said, if we do go that route and if we do have to use, like, Yep. one of the Macquarie accounts, we can tie it all together. I'll do Yep. a little bit of a risk profile questionnaire with you guys, which takes about ten minutes, And I'll come up with some options for you and say, hey. If we were to try and balance this a little bit, here's a few other investment options you can add into the mix. Yep. And then Two. if you want, you could pretty much manage them yourself as well. Like, you'd have Yeah. a short list of, you know, here's this gold ETF. Here's this fixed interest fund, credit funds, different types of options, and then you can pretty much invest the excess. Like, you know how you've been doing that with the shares? You've Yep. got your contributions, maintaining the property. Anything else apart from that can go into the the shares in the portfolio. Once you set up, like, a a model portfolio on the account, you can pretty much just put it all in, and it'll split it between the proportions if you wanna go that way or do a bit Yeah. of day trading, buying, and selling specific ones. Yeah. Which is I've had well, actually, just started.","start_word":12288,"end_word":12592,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.12761488605718144},{"text":"I got I got perplexity although I've ran a fucking credit.","start_word":12593,"end_word":12603,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4324915409088135},{"text":"So I've got perplexity to do a a Forex trading platform for me. So every morning, I log on and it at this stage, I'm only looking at the major the major currencies, gold, silver, and oil. And Yeah. Right. and it tells me every morning, it tells me what are the ones I need to have a bit of a closer look at based on a set of criteria we've set up to say, yes.","start_word":12604,"end_word":12679,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03263171762228012},{"text":"It's a strong chance of of being a win, and I'm working on a strategy that you only actually need to generate four trades out of 10. Four trades out of 10 when you're in profit.","start_word":12680,"end_word":12715,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.36762186884880066},{"text":"So it's 34% means I'll be in profit. Okay.","start_word":12716,"end_word":12724,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24360167980194092},{"text":"But, obviously, if you could hit 50%, you know, you're well in profit. That'll set you up pretty nicely.","start_word":12725,"end_word":12743,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4243151545524597},{"text":"Do you do you reckon you'd always carry on doing a bit of trading once you've once you've Yeah. hung up the Because boots? Tash will be working in The Philippines, and you'll be doing a bit of day trading? well, one of my aims is, yeah, is to get into options trading. Yeah. That'd Particularly be fun. selling calls is what I wanna sort of get in. Like, I wanna keep that side pretty safe, but just generate income potentially. So once we start to pull a pin, and that was also part of the reasoning why we wanna start to amass cash and and I've bought shares like SoFi and this big bear. Although, if we weren't getting the the solar put on, I'd I'd drop another 10 or $15 in the SoFi because it's it got up it shot up just after we bought them to about $28.30 bucks. And with all that's going on, it's come back down to about 16, and I paid 14 for them. So You're right. Goodbye, I'd happily you reckon? buy another another few 100 of them as a pure growth because I think they'll start to rival the big US banks in the coming years Yeah. and Right. probably go up to around 75. Like, we've had a lot of we've had an awful lot of shares that if we had to held on to, we would have had a shitload of capital, but we didn't have enough. Like, I had plenty of tear at about $14, and it's now a $160 share. But Jeez.","start_word":12744,"end_word":13008,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06868061056395747},{"text":"I didn't have enough to make a substantial difference.","start_word":13009,"end_word":13017,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4847133159637451},{"text":"You Yeah. know, I Yep. had, like, a couple 100 shares. So even even with the jump, it wasn't usually we can retire, and that's why we threw it all into the dividend stuff. So we we generated about we put together a 160 k in under six months, Wow. We Wow. which is what we used to buy this Harley Bay property. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's So kind since of caught you then up a little bit, hasn't it? since then, it's sort of we've taken a smashing because, you know, if the market drops 10%, we'll drop 12. Yeah. But the other thing is that offsets that is while the market while we drop 12% each week, we also get paid a dividend. Yep. So the income's still strong out of it. It's it's it's okay. It's not as as I said, you know, I was so, like, one of my main shares is NVIDIA, which is a yield max derivative of Nvidia, which, you know, Yeah. has taken a fucking absolute pounding in The US, thanks to Donald. But it at the time, it was paying I got about 2,300 shares in it at around $20 a share. For most of the time, I was always 30 odd grand even in NAV up, but I'm now $30 down NAV wise. But it was paying anywhere up to $4 a month in dividends. Currently, Have you ever worked out what the that works out to be as a percentage, like as a percentage income return? I yeah. At one stage, it was, like, a 120% or something crazy. Like, and even now, it's still paying about 1,200 a month. So and they haven't had to do a reverse a reverse what's his name on it. They've so it's still worth 2,300 shares. So if it picks up if they can maintain it and it stays good, it will get back up to, you know, potentially where either loan could pay anywhere up to a thousand bucks a a week in dividends. Wow. I didn't expect it But to be that high, but that's a pretty good portion. but it comes it comes with, obviously, with risk. Like, a a number of the other ones, like, Tesla, which is a derivative of Tesla, you know, they've done the reverse split. So, you know, where where is or I might have had 1,700 shares, they're now 300 shares or 400 shares Yeah. or whatever. So which means the dividends still largely stay the stay the same, but they've they do cop a bit more of a beating if if the market has a big downturn or there's all this volatility. But, see, I've offset a lot of that with I've got some bonds by this TLTW, which is a bond, a long term US bond share. I've got some SVAL, which is into the the VIX and the volatility. So, you know, it plays on Okay. the volatility.","start_word":13018,"end_word":13515,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.012550542675272888},{"text":"But and then the shares I'm trying to offset, and it it's unfortunate. As I said, the last few months, all I've done is, like I think in January, I've paid I've paid 4,800 in tax. And then each month after that, it's still I'm paying, like, nearly $3 a month out of me super in tax Yeah.","start_word":13516,"end_word":13573,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.4060702323913574},{"text":"Jeez. to catch up and to get back in front.","start_word":13574,"end_word":13583,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.09472403675317764},{"text":"So At because least you got a of couple first of the safer place that you're kind of trying to build into as well.","start_word":13584,"end_word":13607,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.37966424226760864},{"text":"yeah. Which was always the aim. It was always you know, we had to go risky at the start to or in our lives, we had to go risky at the start to get up there. So and then back off and divert it out so that we were, you know, down the track because we just didn't like, we weren't it wasn't going anywhere when we had because I had about 200,000 in it. Once you bought ANZ and, you know, all the Aussie shares, you know, you were generating it at such a low rate, and they've been up and down and choppy as well. Like, BHP, you know, BHP hasn't probably really gone up since when we bought Nah. it. Originally, eve even though we've sold them, they keep going up and down sort of but, see, I had things like, I had stakes in, I had shares in Tesla that I and Amazon that I picked up for 100, and Amazon's about 200 now. Tesla's up. I bought them at a 130 or something and sold them at about 180, and they're now $3.40. Yeah. But, again, none of them have had, like, you know, 1,200 shares or 2,000 shares where selling them for 200% gain gives you massive wins. Yeah. It would have been a big percentage of a small parcel, but Yeah. I So, guess it you all know, stacked it was eventually too. yeah. That's it. And if it if it went pear shaped, like, because, you know, there's two sides to Tesla. But I always thought they'd they would be AI side would be the side that took more. They've worked got better at than the cars anyway. So Yeah. See, before I start off, I forgot Yep. to ask Natasha for her date of birth. Do you Yep. 1970. That's it. I knew it was '70, and you were '68. Right? Yes. Correct. And you're what what day of month of year? September 21 Twenty sixty first eight. September.","start_word":13608,"end_word":13945,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.029720483347773552},{"text":"Fantastic. Thank you very much.","start_word":13946,"end_word":13950,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7071565628051758},{"text":"That was the last little thing I was just looking through. The data I caption went out. There's a blank box there. Date of birth. Whoops.","start_word":13951,"end_word":13976,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.042429037392139435},{"text":"Awesome, mate.","start_word":13977,"end_word":13978,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6309010982513428},{"text":"Is there anything else that I mean, besides the the self managed super fund, anything else besides the estate planning that I've I've missed so far? No. I think no. That I think that pretty much that color is all we're looking to do at this stage, I think. Yeah. There's a few things you guys need to come back to down the line. Like I said, once Yeah. you hit that 60 plus, your contribution strategy is gonna be pretty important, and just getting everything into pension phase and optimizing it with the taxes and the jobs and everything, but that's that's not for a few years yet. Yeah. No. And I guess the next big thing is, yeah, what happens job wise. Like, if this Melinda job comes off, then then I've got a what we sort of already touched on, look at how I I offset that. So but until that happens, which is probably a good two months away before a decision hope is probable, then, you know, it's just play on. Yeah. Yep. K. What I might do too is, like I said, I'll do the research first, but I'll probably send through, like, a bit of a if we if there's a bit of an idea and plan on what we can do and there's gonna be an actual benefit from it, I'll put Yep. together, like, a statement Yep. of advice and just outline here's everything that you should do, here's the pros and cons, here's everything in paper, what you what you stand to gain and save. And Yep. then I was gonna let Natasha know as well just with our phase to go through the advice is we Yep. usually cap the SMSF advice at four nine five o, but that's obviously incumbent on the benefit that you Yep. get as well. So I need to make sure Yeah. I can actually save you that. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, Perfect.","start_word":13979,"end_word":14306,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.005842299200594425},{"text":"that wouldn't be worth going through all the rigmarole.","start_word":14307,"end_word":14315,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.37179553508758545},{"text":"No. For for any of us. Absolutely. But yeah.","start_word":14316,"end_word":14324,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.000045121865696273744},{"text":"Awesome.","start_word":14325,"end_word":14325,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4688988924026489},{"text":"No.","start_word":14326,"end_word":14326,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.22985807061195376},{"text":"That sounds good. Cool. I'm glad to have had this chat. This is, again, one of the most exotic setups I've seen, and it's actually pretty fun.","start_word":14327,"end_word":14353,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6559808254241943},{"text":"I I told the guys this before because they all left at five because, you know, clock watches and the rest. I said, I've got a couple of them about to talk to with three self managed super funds.","start_word":14354,"end_word":14392,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2091469168663025},{"text":"They said, wow.","start_word":14393,"end_word":14395,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.355549156665802},{"text":"Can't wait to see what you do with that. Yeah. Yeah. Trust I said, me. first, I gotta get some information first. I can't just come up with it out of nowhere, but, no, we're starting to paint a bit of a picture, aren't we? Yes. Because it's not just for shelf and super fun. There's a whole No. lot of other stuff going on around it. But So the cool thing too but is you as you've noticed is once we break it down into smaller chunks, it starts getting clearer what the options are for each chunk. And then once you've got Yeah. two or three options for each bit and you split out what the time frames are, what's immediate, what's in three years' time, what's in five years' time, all of a sudden, you can make some choices. Yeah. And and that's, I guess, the way we sort of yeah. That validation is to, you know, like, at the moment, whilst our supers look like they're really crappy, you know, if we didn't do what we did, we wouldn't have an investment property that's probably jumped over $200 in a year. Yeah. And You that's know? the thing And and too, is it could very quickly be, yes, you've gotten an extra asset out of it.","start_word":14396,"end_word":14615,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06905484199523926},{"text":"So fantastic for building it up and then being able to leverage into another asset. That's fantastic, number one.","start_word":14616,"end_word":14634,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4291858673095703},{"text":"And then number Yes. two, if those stocks rebound as well, you've got a pretty healthy balance. You're still on a healthy income level. You're not in a bad spot compared to a lot of people. Yeah. Well, that's kind of what we are. And that but but it sort of also once the dividend started to drop a little bit and they started to do that, is some of these reverse bloody reverse sales on them.","start_word":14635,"end_word":14711,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04543478114457874},{"text":"So we dropped the share volume down.","start_word":14712,"end_word":14718,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.368371307849884},{"text":"We thought, you know, we probably don't wanna rely just because we already knew that, you know, you can't retire. If you've been busy your whole working life, you can't just retire and stop. You gotta Yeah.","start_word":14719,"end_word":14755,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.2998642325401306},{"text":"keep moving or you or you'll die.","start_word":14756,"end_word":14762,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.427556574344635},{"text":"So that and this sort of opened our lives and said, alright. So let's let's work on some stuff now that that's not work. And I I watch a lot of YouTube. So, like, I've got YouTube Premium because I watch that much, and I ads shit me. Yep. Same. And and, like, we look at all these people, you know, traveling overseas, and and that's their job. And we said, well, let's work on stuff like that where, you know, eventually, when when the time comes, hopefully, we're monetized on YouTube, making a little bit of stuff there. Like, I'm looking at getting you know, we'll look at getting some products, some affiliate marketing, some do do some digital, and a lot of them get into teaching and coaching. And, like, I've actually I was a personal trainer at and coach at Australian Institute of Fitness in Melbourne, so I actually used to teach people how to be personal trainers. So coaching and stuff, I don't mind.","start_word":14763,"end_word":14930,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.06672005355358124},{"text":"It was good fun.","start_word":14931,"end_word":14934,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5371202230453491},{"text":"So, like, I potentially, you know, I might look to get do some of that where you actually coach people. And because our story is fairly unique and certainly a little bit different from, you know, start young, put all your money into super, and then let compounding in compounding take its toll when you're 60. You know, we because I one of the videos on Amigos is that I challenge the you know, you've gotta have 250 k to buy an investment property in. Yeah. You know, I I sometimes think that's the super industry. There's one thing I've learned is that if I calculate what I've paid in the super versus what I was able to pull out and put into the SSMS, it's probably only about the same money that I put in. Or Yeah. actually, it grew by about three or 4%, and I was always in the aggressive brackets because I'm very much risk tolerant, which obviously shows in in what we've done. The amount of shares and things you've got and trading at Yeah. your age, yeah, absolutely. And I've sort of challenged all that because I know that a lot of the big super funds, they're buying into all these dividend funds and stuff that I've got as well. So they're they're generating these huge dividends, and I just don't see how they're passing them on to to the the individual super hovers. No. No. But but they've they've gotta be holding on to it or and keeping the dividends for themselves, and you just get the CPI or whatever, which is basically all my super ever went up, CPI. Yeah. No. I think it's, like you said, you've you've flipped the script a little bit, and good on you for catching it up Yeah.","start_word":14935,"end_word":15236,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1193894636354699},{"text":"so quick and in such a short period of time. And it's not, you know, it's it can be scary to to jump in and and do that, but it's it's paid off pretty well so far. So far, yes. That's that's the million dollar question so far. So far, it's gonna keep the momentum going, make a few In right in choices, five years, and you what should will be it sweet.","start_word":15237,"end_word":15309,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4412037432193756},{"text":"be? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's and that's why we're sort of yeah. Now's the time. You know, we've got the house. We we're potentially in a position to get another couple, you know, if we and that's where we're looking at splitting this off and putting, you know, like, we when we because what happened out here was I got the job, but we couldn't get anywhere to to rent, which was what we wanted to do. And we'd started investing all our personal money into the shares as well. So we had no cash, so much lying Yeah. Right. around. So we we scraped together 5%. So we paid a 197,000 for this place three years ago or less than three years ago. Two just a two bedroom unit in Kingaroy, but we scraped together the 5%. And, like, he we never expected it to do what it's done, whereas it's now, you know, probably worth a minimum of $3.50. If not, $3.60. And Yeah. if not yeah. And depending on how long we hold it on for, and that's why we thought, well, can we buy this with our super? No. But then I started to think, well, what if if we take the money and give it up and buy a house for ourselves, you know, even if we only use 10%, try and get one personally for 10%, even if we have to pay the mortgage insurance and then try and get another couple through our super or at least another Yeah. another property in the super. We're buying two properties instead of one.","start_word":15310,"end_word":15577,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.014828215622509928},{"text":"And from where everything I see, prices are only gonna keep going up because the government aren't doing anything to bring prices down. They're actually making it fucking worse in everything they're doing. All their strategies are just making housing worse.","start_word":15578,"end_word":15618,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5028706789016724},{"text":"Well, that's what a lot of these guys are doing is they're they're buying a few through the super and then holding them until that 60 plus range and then selling them off so they can avoid the capital gains tax. So it's an option. Yeah. And that's what you know, you use use one to help pay down the other two and and then I get ownership of, you know, even if we could use one to pay there or you sell off another. If we could buy another two, they grow, and then we use them, sell them off and pay the house outright, and then it's generating pure income. So I'm actually writing things this down to potentially buy another two properties with that. Like you said, contributors in, potentially leverage off of those. Yeah. Because what I've read what what what I've got out of chat is if we were to can put that put a 100 k into their supers out of it, it potentially would, on the back end, give us about a 20,000 15 to $20,000 tax check back next the following year for for the contributions, which Absolutely. we could then dump straight back in on something Yep. Or at least have the cash there or offset on or the next have property yeah. that you get, whatever Or, it is. yeah, have cash or if if gold could take a bit of a like a $2,000 dip. Oh, well, that's one of those ones where I've just been chipping away at it since, well, 2012 now. I'm I'm always every week, every month, but it would be nice for a bit of a pullback. That's for sure. Yeah. But mind you, if you if you've sat on some since 2012, it'd be looking pretty nice Yes. Yes. It is. because it would have been under well, it would have been 1 well, under a grand, I reckon, in 2012. Yeah. No. There was yeah. There was a few that were sitting there under just under 2, I think, at the time, and was sitting at 30. Yep. I mean, I went down to 16 at one point two. Yeah. Yeah. Good I fun. don't think it'll ever get back to those levels because what's sitting at No. about $4.07 at the moment, $4.06 or something at the moment, For all gold sitting at $6.07. $6.07. I was a yeah. My I'm probably thinking US 4 US. seven. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Alright. Yeah. Safe, So mate. I'm Alright. gonna get going. My my Yep. missus just texted me to get home. Yep. No worries.","start_word":15619,"end_word":16061,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04608663061368815},{"text":"But it was really lovely meeting you both of you.","start_word":16062,"end_word":16071,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.8288619518280029},{"text":"And when we get through to the other end, I'll I'll jump on the old the video call next time and say hello.","start_word":16072,"end_word":16094,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.3319227397441864},{"text":"Perfect. And I will I'll be sending you a pretty big email with a few things to get.","start_word":16095,"end_word":16112,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.37673720717430115},{"text":"Yep. Once we get the info, I'll probably book in for a bit of a follow-up with you first because there's Yep. a couple No. of other things I wanna run by you first before we go through to the endpoint. No problem.","start_word":16113,"end_word":16155,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.07030215859413147},{"text":"Awesome, mate. Well, you guys have Excellent. a fantastic Easter.","start_word":16156,"end_word":16165,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6205870509147644},{"text":"Have you got much on for the Easter weekend? Is it gonna be a quiet one or you zipping I'm around? off I didn't actually realize it was Easter weekend, so I'm off to Sydney tomorrow to watch the dragon Saturday night Yeah. and Right. then hopefully head off to the casino and win some money at the casino on the roulette strategy I first tried in Vegas. I'll I'll factor that into the plan once you come back with the winnings. Yes. Yes. That's the clear that could be the other stream professional roulette player. If if Oh, you could that's just gold. pop if you could pop that in just for shits and giggles and I'll and highlight that one for Tash. Yeah. So when I'm gonna hide it the entire time, and I'll put in as a long term goal professional roulette player Yep. and self funded retiree from it. Yes. And then that'll be your personal goal. Yes. And That's so it. when she sees that in the SOA, she'll have a laugh. Yeah. Because she I went to Vegas to the, you know, for the opening round, and, of course, she has an absolutely zero interest in football or gambling. So so she stayed on with the animals, and so I said, well, instead of doing that, right, I'll find business class with Delta. And so that's what I did through business class with Delta, stayed at Circa on Fremont Street. I only went for a week and had an absolute blast. So Off you went. And you're yep.","start_word":16166,"end_word":16429,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.09821307743814858},{"text":"gonna try it out this weekend.","start_word":16430,"end_word":16435,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.43032556772232056},{"text":"Yeah. I I tried it one. I got a couple of photos with a fair chunk of going to pick up. Started with 210 $212,100 Yeah. only Yeah. because I couldn't be bothered to keep going. And and I didn't wanna lose that 1,200, but it it's pretty slow and steady, but, yeah, it seems to do alright.","start_word":16436,"end_word":16493,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0692758560180664},{"text":"Cool.","start_word":16494,"end_word":16494,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.5259513258934021},{"text":"I'll try and avoid the casino this weekend because I'm Yes.","start_word":16495,"end_word":16505,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1829250305891037},{"text":"bad Good good for it.","start_word":16506,"end_word":16510,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.391314685344696},{"text":"idea.","start_word":16511,"end_word":16511,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.24545159935951233},{"text":"I'll just be staying with the kids and eating some chalky. Nice.","start_word":16512,"end_word":16523,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4340991973876953},{"text":"Oh, are we doing a are you doing an egg hunt? Yes. That's what I'm gonna Yes. do is go around and put all that around the yard, put Yep. in some spots where the dog won't get it.","start_word":16524,"end_word":16562,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.12178720533847807},{"text":"So you've obviously got kids young enough that they're into the still into the egg hunt and all. You got you got kids where it's nice to have kids.","start_word":16563,"end_word":16591,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.43564146757125854},{"text":"Yes. Yeah. I've got six and three, and then I've got another one on the way in June. Oh, no. It's okay. So two boys and a daughter on the way. Oh, and you can okay. So that's that's enough then, or we're Yes. gonna fill That the is mini van? absolutely enough.","start_word":16592,"end_word":16644,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1351272463798523},{"text":"That is. She convinced me to have just that one more.","start_word":16645,"end_word":16655,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3415568470954895},{"text":"She goes, I'm not quite done yet, Michael. I am, and I wanna sleep again.","start_word":16656,"end_word":16670,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.04617999121546745},{"text":"But last one and happy days after that. And I'll appreciate it one day.","start_word":16671,"end_word":16684,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4606731235980987},{"text":"I'll be sitting around Yes. hopefully Yeah. at It a looks. big big family Yeah. table with decades time, and Yep. we'll we'll Particularly if, you know, one of them can achieve. see.","start_word":16685,"end_word":16717,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1807592660188675},{"text":"If you can if you can bring out some achievers, then I think that's like my sister, she's got pretty lucky.","start_word":16718,"end_word":16738,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4124886095523834},{"text":"Both her kids must take after their uncle.","start_word":16739,"end_word":16746,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.241642028093338},{"text":"And so, yeah, she's done pretty well, whereas poor old Cass is well, her kids have probably got a got a a little bit of learning and growing up to still do.","start_word":16747,"end_word":16778,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.3591068685054779},{"text":"Yeah. 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And Of course.","start_word":16805,"end_word":16938,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0046468148939311504},{"text":"I'm like, fucking hell.","start_word":16939,"end_word":16942,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.43933627009391785},{"text":"So then I thought, well, that's not good when I go to Vegas. So I I've YouTubed and watched all these strategies, and and I played this free roulette online on the phone. I played it played and played, and I stuck with one that I keep coming back to one, which was you bet $10 on one to 18 and $10 Yeah. on even. If one of I them have gets seen up that one. I haven't tried it, but yeah. well, if one of them gets up, you get your money back. If both of them get up, you you double your money. And, of course, if neither of them get up, you lose. But then the strategy I play is you then double it up after that. So you go from 20 to 40 or depending on the table thing, and that's Yeah. what I was doing in Vegas. But then I also throw in and have a look for patterns. So, like, I've I've watched enough where I learned that, you know, if three, say, one to 12 came up, then Right.","start_word":16943,"end_word":17128,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.0009224763019911704},{"text":"the chances of the fourth were slim and the chances of the fifth were even slimmer.","start_word":17129,"end_word":17144,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.6033527851104736},{"text":"So sometimes I will change, or if you get three reds in a row, you know, the chances of four is slim, Yeah. and five is slimmer. So I will sometimes offset, you know, and do slightly different, but keep coming back to that strategy. And that's what I've what slow and steady one. But you've gotta have a bank because you've gotta be able to suffer three or four losses in a row Just stack and it up. still double up. Yeah. You know, Yeah. still Double keep. or nothing. Yeah.","start_word":17145,"end_word":17236,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1995294690132141},{"text":"So it's you know, you can and and, unfortunately, being what it is, you know, you can get aid in a row that go against you.","start_word":17237,"end_word":17262,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.3942911922931671},{"text":"Yeah. And that's And the nature then you of gambling. you go on and you drop $2 because I wanted to have a $2 bank was the aim Yeah. to be able to sustain it for $2 worth. But then, like, when I actually got over there, I'm not adverse to having a $50 bet on the horses or something, but dropping $2 in a hand, I went, oh, I'm not sure if I I wanna do that. Yeah. Far out. So I got to 1,200 and went, yep. That'll do. So I've actually No. got 1,600. That's why I know fully what you're talking about, US cash or cash rate, because that's also hit as hard as, you know, the fact that the the dollar on the flip side unfortunately, now is the time we put money across to The US or more Not so the than other way pulling around. it Yeah.","start_word":17263,"end_word":17416,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.1510830968618393},{"text":"pulling it out, whereas, yeah, it's dropped a minimum of 20<unk> a dollar, which is killing me on the other side.","start_word":17417,"end_word":17438,"sentiment":"negative","sentiment_score":-0.5374850034713745},{"text":"And I've still got 1,600 US in your wallet, but Yeah. I want Right. it and every time it starts to go, you can't exchange it in freaking King Royce, so I have to wait till I get to the city. And every time it starts to go up, it comes back down, and I'm thinking, oh, man. And that's the And thing. I've It's just gone against the long term trend, and it's only been the last since, again, January. Otherwise, you would have been gone most of the year after that, before that. yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it'll it should once it all does settles down again and we get back to some form of normality within the world, then I think it'll start to level itself out again. But, yeah, for now, it's a bit of a worry. Yeah. And, again, it's not doesn't usually take that long, especially for the currencies to fix up. So hopefully, year or two max will be good. Steve, Yeah. Yes. what's your what's your availability like next couple of weeks just when the team gives you a call? Is it like mornings or arbos or just text Are you those first? generally better? Like, if I've got meetings, it's usually gonna be mornings and the like. But if are those generally better for me? Yep. Okay. Afternoon. And we usually because we've got that, like, digital phone system. Sometimes it'll come through from the main number. Sometimes it might call through from, like, a mobile. Yep. We'll always leave you a voice message, send you a text so you Cool. know it's us. Yeah. Excellent. Because a lot of times, no, I don't know. With this the number of scammers you're getting now, if if it doesn't leave a message, I won't ring back. Mate, I don't think I've answered a phone call in two years. I don't blame you. So yeah. But no. But that's fine.","start_word":17439,"end_word":17765,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":-0.06250924662621378},{"text":"That's good.","start_word":17766,"end_word":17767,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.4106254577636719},{"text":"Alright.","start_word":17768,"end_word":17768,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.2848278284072876},{"text":"Awesome. I better let you get home to the missus. Easy done, mate. Well, thank you very much for tonight, and have a happy Easter. You too.","start_word":17769,"end_word":17795,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.6010878152317471},{"text":"You too, and And we'll I talk soon. should Yep. I should talk to you in the next sort of week or two. I'll give you a bit of an update next week, but there'll be a few more things a week after once we've got a bit of info for you.","start_word":17796,"end_word":17847,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.1420058161020279},{"text":"Perfect. Awesome, Steve. Take Awesome. it easy, mate. Thank you so Thank much. you, mate. Have a good Bye.","start_word":17848,"end_word":17866,"sentiment":"positive","sentiment_score":0.7621832489967346},{"text":"one.","start_word":17867,"end_word":17867,"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.25402265787124634}],"average":{"sentiment":"neutral","sentiment_score":0.03226560798586181}}}}